Guest NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL@yahoo.com Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Mearsheimer and Walt to be interviewed on Ian Masters' 'Live from the Left Coast' program today at 12 Noon (US west coast) can listen via http://www.kpfk.org as well. Should also be eventually be archived at http://www.ianmasters.org Mearsheimer and Walt to discuss their new book (The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy) at the UCLA associated Hammer Museum in Westwood (Los Angeles) this coming Tuesday (September 18th at 6 PM - access the 'appearances' link via http://www.israellobbybook.com for additional info if interested further): ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Moran's Mouth, Again http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/14/AR2007091401542.html?sub=AR justicequest2000 wrote (in the comments section associated with the above Op-Ed appearing in the Washington Post today): Can I assume that Mr. King hasn't even read the new book (The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy - see israellobbybook.com) by respected political science professors John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt about the power/influence of the pro-Israel lobby (AIPAC, JINSA, etc) and how it pushed for the attack on Iraq and has been doing similar to get US to attack Iran. Can I assume that Mr. King also hasn't read the third edition of former Republican Congressman Paul Findley's 'They Dare to Speak Out' book either. Mr. King might be interested in accessing the following URL as well which conveys how CBS '60 Minutes' is refusing to do a segment about the Mearsheimer/Walt book: http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=78398 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following was just sent to me by a respected journalist in response to what I sent him below as I am in touch with him on a regular basis: It all reminds me of the walk up to the Iraq war. The Bushies went on saying no decision about war as tens of thousands of US troops arrived in Kuwait for the invasion. Bushies kept referring to U.N., as Bush 41's team did too for last six months of 1990. Next issue (9/24) of The American Conservative has a piece by Justice Logan headlined -- ONCE MORE INTO THE BREACH; the Neocon Propaganda Machine Rolls Toward Iran. US says 'all options' on table with Iran, but prefers diplomacy by Jitendra Joshi 3 minutes ago The United States will stick to diplomatic and economic pressure to force Iran to halt its nuclear drive, but "all options are on the table," Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Sunday. Interviewed on Fox News, Gates also said the United States would have a "real problem" if Syria and North Korea are collaborating on a nuclear program, but refused to confirm reports to that end. Asked if President George W. Bush would consult Congress before launching any strikes on Iran, Gates said he would not be drawn on "hypotheticals." "I will tell you that I think the administration believes at this point that continuing to try and deal with the Iranian threat ... through diplomatic and economic means is by far the preferable approach," he said. Iran vehemently denies Western allegations it is seeking an atomic weapon, saying its nuclear drive is aimed at providing electricity for a growing population whose fossil fuels will one day run out. "We always say all options are on the table," Gates said. "But clearly, the diplomatic and economic approach is the one we're pursuing." The five permanent Security Council members -- Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States -- plus Germany are due to meet to discuss a new draft UN resolution on sanctions against Iran on September 21 in Washington. The United States has never ruled out taking military action against Iran but on Friday, Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei brushed off the notion that it could now threaten the Islamic republic. He said that Bush had been defeated in his Middle East plans and would one day stand trial for "atrocities" committed in Iraq. The US and Iranian envoys to Baghdad have held two rounds of landmark talks in Baghdad on Iraqi security this year, but Khamenei's comments underlined the degree of enmity that remains between the two sides just on this issue. Washington also accuses Iran of providing sophisticated weaponry to Shiite militias in Iraq, and Syria of turning a blind eye to infiltration of its borders by Sunni insurgents, charges both governments deny. Announcing a limited pullout of troops from Iraq on Thursday, Bush demanded that Iran and Syria end attempts to "undermine" the government of insurgency-wracked Iraq. The top US commander in Iraq, General David Petraeus, last week accused Iran of fighting a "proxy war" in Iraq through the covert operations unit of its elite Revolutionary Guards. But the Pentagon chief ruled out using US forces to chase Shiite extremists in Iraq over the Iranian border. "First of all, there's a question of just how much intelligence we have in terms of specific locations and so on," Gates said on Fox. "But beyond that, I think that the general view is we can manage this problem through better operations inside Iraq and on the border with Iran -- that we can take care of the Iranian threat ... inside the borders of Iraq. "Don't need to go across the border into Iran." Gates refused to confirm the veracity of leaked intelligence reports suggesting that North Korea may be helping Syria build a nuclear weapons facility. "But all I will say is we are watching the North Koreans very carefully. We watch the Syrians very carefully," he said. "If such an activity were taking place, it would be a matter of great concern because the president has put down a very strong marker with the North Koreans about further proliferation efforts and obviously any effort by the Syrians to pursue weapons of mass destruction would be a concern. "I think it would be a real problem," Gates said. A senior North Korean diplomat has dismissed the reports of nuclear collaboration with Syria, South Korea's Yonhap news agency said Sunday. And Syria angrily denied as US "lies" suggestions that it was receiving nuclear material from North Korea, after foreign media reports that Israeli warplanes had launched an air strike on a possible joint nuclear project. Gates declined to comment on the reported Israeli raid. Syria says its air defenses fired on Israeli warplanes that had dropped munitions deep inside its territory in the early hours of September 6. -----Original Message----- Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 11:28 AM Subject: Gates: U.S. pursuing diplomacy with Iran C-SPAN opened its 'Washington Journal' broadcast this morning with discussion about that Sunday Telegraph article on Bush setting the stage to attack Iran. Then an article was mentioned which appears in the latest addition of US News and World Report, but I couldn't find it via the http://www.usnews.com URL yet.. Have you seen it.. US News should really have a disclaimer mentioning that Mort Zuckerman is an ardent Zionist when it comes to discussion of Israel and issues related to Israel!. AP just moved the following about Gates: Gates: U.S. pursuing diplomacy with Iran 21 minutes ago The Bush administration is committed, for now, to using diplomatic and economic means to counter the potential nuclear threat from Iran, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Sunday. Speculation has persisted about preparations for a military strike against Iran for its alleged support for terrorism and its nuclear program. Gates, in a broadcast interview, said he would not discuss "hypotheticals" about what President Bush "may or may not do." "I think that the administration believes at this point that continuing to try and deal with the Iranian threat, the Iranian challenge, through diplomatic and economic means is by far the preferable approach. That's the one we are using," the Pentagon chief said. "We always say all options are on the table, but clearly, the diplomatic and economic approach is the one that we are pursuing," he added. The diplomatic approach takes center stage at a conference in Washington on Friday. The U.S. hosts the U.N. Security Council's four other permanent members - Britain, China, France, Russia - plus Germany to press for new penalties against oil-rich Iran. These countries have sought for almost two years to use punishments - actual or threatened - to persuade Tehran to drop disputed nuclear work. Two rounds of mild penalties have not slowed or stopped the activities. Washington has been the chief proponent of world sanctions against Iran, while Russia, which has trade and military ties to Iran, has proved the most reluctant member of the coalition. The U.S. contends Iran's nuclear power program is a cover for developing weapons. Tehran insists it wants to master the technology to meet future power needs. The administration is expected to soon blacklist a unit of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps as a terrorist organization, subjecting part of the vast military operation to financial penalties. The step would be in response to Iran's involvement in Iraq and elsewhere. Last week, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus, told reporters he had solid evidence, including the explanations of captured Iranian agents, to support his claim that Iran was behind lethal attacks in Iraq. Petraeus warned Congress that the U.S. already was fighting a "proxy war" with Iran. Gates spoke on "Fox News Sunday." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bush setting America up for war with Iran: http://tinyurl.com/2rt7dg Proxy war could soon turn to direct conflict, analysts warn (US strikes on Iran predicted as tension rises over arms smuggling and nuclear fears): http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0%2C%2C2169798%2C00.html Julian Borger and Ian Black Saturday September 15, 2007 The Guardian The growing US focus on confronting Iran in a proxy war inside Iraq risks triggering a direct conflict in the next few months, regional analysts are warning. US-Iranian tensions have mounted significantly in the past few days, with heightened rhetoric on both sides and the US decision to establish a military base in Iraq less than five miles from the Iranian border to block the smuggling of Iranian arms to Shia militias. The involvement of a few hundred British troops in the anti-smuggling operation also raises the risk of their involvement in a cross-border clash. US officers have alleged that an advanced Iranian-made missile had been fired at an American base from a Shia area, which if confirmed would be a significant escalation in the "proxy war" referred to this week by General David Petraeus, the US commander in Iraq. "The proxy war that has been going on in Iraq may now cross the border. This is a very dangerous period," Patrick Cronin, the director of studies at the International Institute for Strategic Studies, said. Iran's leaders have so far shown every sign of relishing the confrontation. The supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, declared yesterday that American policies had failed in the Middle East and warned: "I am certain that one day Bush and senior American officials will be tried in an international court for the tragedies they have created in Iraq." In such circumstances, last week's Israeli air strike against a mystery site in northern Syria has triggered speculation over its motives. Israel has been silent about the attack. Syria complained to the UN security council but gave few details. Some say the target was Iranian weapons on their way to Hizbullah in Lebanon, or that the sortie was a dry run for a US-Israeli attack on Syria and Iran. There is even speculation that the Israelis took out a nuclear facility funded by Iran and supplied by North Korea The situation is particularly volatile because the struggle for influence threatens to exacerbate a confrontation over Tehran's nuclear ambitions. The US has called a meeting of major powers in Washington next Friday to discuss Iran's defiance of UN resolutions calling for its suspension of uranium enrichment. It comes amid signs that the Bush administration is running out of patience with diplomatic efforts to curb the nuclear programme. Hawks led by the vice-president, Dick Cheney, are intensifying their push for military action, with support from Israel and privately from some Sunni Gulf states. "Washington is seriously reviewing plans to bomb not just nuclear sites, but oil sites, military sites and even leadership targets. The talk is of multiple targets," said Mr Cronin. "In Washington there is very serious discussion that this is a window that has to be looked at seriously because there is only six months to 'do something about Iran' before it will be looked at as a purely political issue." US presidential elections are due in November 2008, and military action at the height of the campaign is usually seen by voters as politically motivated. Vincent Cannistraro, a former CIA counter-terrorism chief who is now a security analyst, said: "The decision to attack was made some time ago. It will be in two stages. If a smoking gun is found in terms of Iranian interference in Iraq, the US will retaliate on a tactical level, and they will strike against military targets. The second part of this is: Bush has made the decision to launch a strategic attack against Iranian nuclear facilities, although not before next year. He has been lining up some Sunni countries for tacit support for his actions." US and British officials have complained to Iran about the use by Shia militias in Iraq of what they say are Iranian-made weapons. The main concern is the proliferation of roadside bombs that fire a bolt of molten metal through any thickness of armour, which the officials say must have been made in Iran. A US military spokesman in Baghdad, Major General Kevin Bergner, raised the stakes when he said the 240mm rocket that hit the US military headquarters outside Baghdad this week, killing an American soldier and wounding 11, had been supplied to Shia militants by Iran. Gen Bergner used to work in the White House, where he was aligned with administration hawks, and his dispatch to Baghdad was seen by some as a move to increase pressure on Iran. "There are an awful lot of lower level officers who are very angry about the deaths from explosively formed projectiles said to come from Iran. There is a certain amount of military pressure to do something about this," said Patrick Clawson, the deputy director for research at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. "That said, it is very difficult for us to do anything without much better evidence. In that respect, border control is a sensible solution." Any US decision to attack Iran would force Gordon Brown to choose between creating a serious rift in the transatlantic alliance and participating in or endorsing American actions. British officials insist that Washington has given no sign it is ready to abandon diplomacy and argue that UN sanctions are showing signs of working. They point to the resurgence in Iran of Hashemi Rafsanjani, seen as a pragmatic counterweight to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Hopes that a new war could still be avoided have also been boosted by Gen Petraeus's claim that Iran's covert Quds force alleged to be supporting Shia attacks on coalition forces had been pulled out of Iraq. If true, it could be that in the stand-off between the US and Iran, Iran has blinked first. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The 'proxy war': UK troops are sent to Iranian border http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2953462.ece British soldiers return to action as tensions between US and Iran grow Published: 12 September 2007 British forces have been sent from Basra to the volatile border with Iran amid warnings from the senior US commander in Iraq that Tehran is fomenting a "proxy war". In signs of a fast-developing confrontation, the Iranians have threatened military action in response to attacks launched from Iraqi territory while the Pentagon has announced the building of a US base and fortified checkpoints at the frontier. The UK operation, in which up to 350 troops are involved, has come at the request of the Americans, who say that elements close to the Iranian regime have stepped up supplies of weapons to Shia militias in recent weeks in preparation for attacks inside Iraq. The deployment came within a week of British forces leaving Basra Palace, their last remaining base inside Basra city, and withdrawing to the airport for a widely expected final departure from Iraq. Brigadier James Bashall, commander of 1 Mechanised Brigade, based at Basra said: "We have been asked to help at the Iranian border to stop the flow of weapons and I am willing to do so. We know the points of entry and I am sure we can do what needs to be done. The US forces are, as we know, engaged in the 'surge' and the border is of particular concern to them." The mission will include the King's Royal Hussars battle group, 250 of whom were told at the weekend that they would be returning to the UK as part of a drawdown of forces in Iraq. The operation is regarded as a high-risk strategy which could lead to clashes with Iranian-backed Shia militias or even Iranian forces and also leaves open the possibility of Iranian retaliation in the form of attacks against British forces at the Basra air base or inciting violence to draw them back into Basra city. Relations between the two countries are already fraught after the Iranian Revolutionary Guards seized a British naval party in the Gulf earlier this year. The move came as General David Petraeus, the US commander in Iraq, and Ryan Crocker, the US ambassador to Iraq, made some of the strongest accusations yet by US officials about Iranian activity. General Petraeus spoke on Monday of a "proxy war" in Iraq, while Mr Crocker accused the Iranian government of "providing lethal capabilities to the enemies of the Iraqi state". In an interview after his appearance before a congressional panel on Monday, General Petraeus strongly implied that it would soon be necessary to obtain authorisation to take action against Iran within its own borders, rather than just inside Iraq. "There is a pretty hard look ongoing at that particular situation" he said. The Royal Welsh battle group, with Challenger tanks and Warrior armoured vehicles, is conducting out regular exercises at the Basra air base in preparation for any re-entry into the city. No formal handover of Basra to the Iraqi government has yet taken place and the UK remains responsible for maintaining security in the region. The Iraqi commander in charge of the southern part of the country, General Mohan al-Furayji, said he would not hesitate to call for British help if there was an emergency. While previous US military action has been primarily directed against Sunni insurgents, it is Shia fighters, which the US accuses Iran of backing, who now account for 80 per cent of US casualties. For the British military the move to the border is a change of policy. They had stopped patrols along the long border at Maysan despite US concerns at the time that the area would become a conduit for weapons into Iraq. The decision to return to the frontier has been heavily influenced by the highly charged and very public dispute with the United States. British commanders feel that they cannot turn down the fresh American request for help after refusing to delay the withdrawal from Basra Palace. They also maintain that the operation will stop Iranian arms entering Basra. Brigadier Bashall said: "We are not sitting here idly at the air bridge. The security of Basra is still our responsibility and we shall act where necessary. We are also prepared to restore order in Basra City if asked to do so." The US decision to build fortifications at the Iranian border, after four years of presence in Iraq, shows, say American commanders, that the "Iranian threat" is now one of their main concerns. Maj-Gen Rick Lynch, commander of the US Army's 3rd Infantry Division, said 48 Iranian-supplied roadside bombs had been used against his forces killing nine soldiers. "We've got a major problem with Iranian munitions streaming into Iraq. This Iranian interference is troubling and we have to stop it," he told The Wall Street Journal this week. Meanwhile at a conference in Baghdad on regional co-operation, Iran claimed the US was supporting groups mounting attacks from Iraqi territory in the Kurdish north. Said Jalili , Iran's deputy foreign minister, last night said: "I think [the US and its allies] are going to prevaricate with the truth because they know they have been defeated in Iraq and they have not been successful. And so they are going to put the blame on us, on the other side." C-SPAN 'Washington Journal' viewer calls about Mearsheimer/Walt and the coming war with Iran: http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=78398 Anti-Iran hype reaches fever pitch By Khody Akhavi http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/II12Ak01.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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