EnterNetProphet Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Good I got your attention..This is a weird point,as you know the Islamist sectarian violence between the factions have to do with historical differences.Question is, which is the true branch,there are many sunni there are many shiah..but despite the bitchfest they have ,it seems Haj brings about a peacfullness respite...but what I'm getting is this...which branch are infidels and which is the true,they all lend arguments to us but Mohammed said reportedly on his deathbed"do not let infidels into mecca" So Ha!!!So the 'holy than thou' approach gets given a rest on haj.This one of many pitfalls this religion has compared to christianity.So who is a muslim today?.And who is permitted to go to mecca? All yours folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Good I got your attention..This is a weird point,as you know the Islamist sectarian violence between the factions have to do with historical differences.Question is, which is the true branch,there are many sunni there are many shiah..but despite the bitchfest they have ,it seems Haj brings about a peacfullness respite...but what I'm getting is this...which branch are infidels and which is the true,they all lend arguments to us but Mohammed said reportedly on his deathbed"do not let infidels into mecca" So Ha!!!So the 'holy than thou' approach gets given a rest on haj.This one of many pitfalls this religion has compared to christianity.So who is a muslim today?.And who is permitted to go to mecca? All yours folks. Why are Protestants and Catholics still killing each other? Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterNetProphet Posted May 16, 2006 Author Share Posted May 16, 2006 Why are Protestants and Catholics still killing each other? Ask the british 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariama Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Just because there are different groups does not make them all disbelievers It makes them DEVIENTS. Quote I need to post something other than Islam hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builder Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Just because there are different groups does not make them all disbelievers It makes them DEVIENTS. The word is deviants, and you're wrong. Religion today is all about deviation from the original theme. If there was one true God (TM 2006), there would not be so much fucking friction and war and the control freaks would not be trying to kill off other sects of the same fucking religion. Quote Persevere, it pisses people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Finally, we get a muslim to admit that their religion is full of deviants! We can all go home now. 1 Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builder Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Why are Protestants and Catholics still killing each other? It's all about persecution by the majority, and failure to cowtow to irreligious mores. Catholics are charlatans and idolaters. They dress up like faggots, worship idols, misrepresent historical people, demand tithing, practice rituals of their own making, cover up paedophilia within their own ranks, and accept money from crime syndicates. Anglicans only practice the tithing and paedophilia bits. Quote Persevere, it pisses people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariama Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 The question was about "disbelievers in Macca" In Islam a deviant is not a disbeliever. So therefore they are allowed on Hajj... I mean you are kept out are you not?? So there is no issue here.. Quote I need to post something other than Islam hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariama Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 yes obviously you know all about Islam even though in Islam a deviant is NOT a disbeliever the two commit different things... Quote I need to post something other than Islam hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builder Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 The question was about "disbelievers in Macca" In Islam a deviant is not a disbeliever. So therefore they are allowed on Hajj... I mean you are kept out are you not?? So there is no issue here.. There is an issue here. The issue is, two or more factions or sects of Islam are at war with eachother. The Sunnis and Shiites are loving eachother to death. Confront that issue. That is the topic and issue we are discussing. Quote Persevere, it pisses people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builder Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 yes obviously you know all about Islam even though in Islam a deviant is NOT a disbeliever the two commit different things... You brought up the deviants issue. Explain yourself. I know as much about Islam as I know about religion in general. Show us why two sects of Islam are killing eachother in more numbers than their stated target of infidels in the west. Quote Persevere, it pisses people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariama Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 One thing I will say to that person with that ridiculous picture of a crusade is that although a lot of these sects have issues they need to address they are still Muslims and this alone is enough to make them way above you... Builder... To begin with you should know there are loads of groups, this is just one To be a Muslim you must follow Qur'an AND Sunnah. The shia do not do this...By all means read this ruling on them, have a look it may give you a better idea. http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=21500&dgn=4 Quote I need to post something other than Islam hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariama Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Sorry I gave you the wrong one... http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?search_text_box_dsn4=4569&lv=browse&submit.x=0&submit.y=0&formtrans=dgn%3D4%7C&ln=eng&ds=qa&sensitivity=2&searchquestions=1&searchtitles=1&searchanswers=1&searchsources=1&pg=result&offset=0&msubmit=1 Quote I need to post something other than Islam hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalfind Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 And the point is????? I am all for a good killing every now and then, but I prefer it to be for a reason I can get behind, like money or having been insulted or cheated or done wrong so to speak, killing one religious fanatic versus killing some other religious fanatic because God or a prophet of God interprets what God said just does not work for me. I just don Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariama Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 What are you so scared of? Why do you think Mecca has not been blown up? Because you can't, it is protected against that, Allah has promised to protect it and no matter what you do you can't...Try it and you will see what happens to you... Quote I need to post something other than Islam hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phreakwars Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 What are you so scared of? Why do you think Mecca has not been blown up? Because you can't, it is protected against that, Allah has promised to protect it and no matter what you do you can't...Try it and you will see what happens to you...Ohh.. is "ALLAH" going to kill people if MECCA is attacked ??? Or would it be MUSLIMS ?? Which you could HARDLY call the will of "ALLAH" . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamza123 Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Good I got your attention..This is a weird point,as you know the Islamist sectarian violence between the factions have to do with historical differences.Question is, which is the true branch,there are many sunni there are many shiah..but despite the bitchfest they have ,it seems Haj brings about a peacfullness respite...but what I'm getting is this...which branch are infidels and which is the true,they all lend arguments to us but Mohammed said reportedly on his deathbed"do not let infidels into mecca" So Ha!!!So the 'holy than thou' approach gets given a rest on haj.This one of many pitfalls this religion has compared to christianity.So who is a muslim today?.And who is permitted to go to mecca? All yours folks. Infidels meaning the "Christian" fucks that always made the jews and muslims fight... YOU'RE AN IDIOT BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS THE SHIITE BRANCH UNTIL MUCH AFTER MUHAMMEDS DEATH. For this whole WASTE OF A TOPIC, and how EnterNet feels so confident about such a lie... IDIOT BOX!! After Muhammad's passing, Ali claimed succession in religious and political authority, supported by his family and followers. Shi`ahs believe that by Muhammad's direct order he appointed him successor on many occasions, that he was the rightful leader of the Muslims after Muhammad's passing, and that to follow Muhammad's true Sunnah one must support Ali's successorship. AFTER MUHAMMADS PASSING!!! ALL MUSLIMS WERE SUNNI DURING MUHAMMADS TIME SO DON'T EVEN TRY AND LIE!! If you didn't hear it from the Qur'an, or someone who is qualified to talk about Islam... FUCK WHAT YOU HEARD!! SHOVE A DICK IN YOUR EAR, AND FUCK WHAT YOU HEARD!! Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Guy Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Hehehe, were gonna' see something blown up soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamza123 Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 What are you so scared of? Why do you think Mecca has not been blown up? Because you can't, it is protected against that, Allah has promised to protect it and no matter what you do you can't...Try it and you will see what happens to you... Mecca won't be attacked, I swear by my own life. As a Muslim, my beliefs include defending my birth place and my spiritual land, abstractly. In my five prayers every day, I ask Allah to protect those innocent men and women both in uniform and those civilians in Iraq. I ask for terrorist Attacks to end, and I ask for universal religious peace!! Many muslims around the world like me do the same too! Quote Taking it up the poopchute from Allah since 1990. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalfind Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 What are you so scared of? Why do you think Mecca has not been blown up? Because you can't, it is protected against that, Allah has promised to protect it and no matter what you do you can't...Try it and you will see what happens to you... I'm affraid of people with bombs strapped to themselves, I'm affraid of people with a death wish, who don't care about dying, people who WANT to die and take as many people with them... As for Mecca, you can't stop the American military...we can drop a bomb on Mecca and you never see us coming... Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerroristHater Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Mecca won't be attacked, I swear by my own life. As a Muslim, my beliefs include defending my birth place and my spiritual land, abstractly. In my five prayers every day, I ask Allah to protect those innocent men and women both in uniform and those civilians in Iraq. I ask for terrorist Attacks to end, and I ask for universal religious peace!! Many muslims around the world like me do the same too! Hamza, If a terrorist carries out an attack on US or allied soil with a nuclear device, both Mecca and Iran will be nuked out of existence. Israel already has a working plan in place and will not hesitate to nuke ALL Iranian nuclear sites once it is clear Iran hast he bomb. Iran WILL disarm or the mullahs and the Ayehtoieltbowl are going to quickly learn what it's like to reach 10,000 degrees F in under a second. As long as a collection of fudemenatlist islamic assclowns are running Iran, Iran will NEVER be allowed to have nuclear weapons of ANY KIND. PERIOD! Quote I'm not having a tantrum...I'm not...I'm not...I'm not...I'm going to sue your ass...whawwwwwwww. Iran's useless government will disarm or be destroyed. As a matter of personal preference; I prefer the latter. FUCK IRAN, FUCK TERRORISTS, AND FUCK ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalfind Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 GEUSS WHAT...Allah doesn't exist...HOWEVER, you can see the American Military exists and Americans are STILL pissed off...stick your head between your legs (unclean though it be) and kiss your ass goodbye... Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterNetProphet Posted May 17, 2006 Author Share Posted May 17, 2006 Infidels meaning the "Christian" fucks that always made the jews and muslims fight... YOU'RE AN IDIOT BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS THE SHIITE BRANCH UNTIL MUCH AFTER MUHAMMEDS DEATH. For this whole WASTE OF A TOPIC, and how EnterNet feels so confident about such a lie... IDIOT BOX!! After Muhammad's passing, Ali claimed succession in religious and political authority, supported by his family and followers. Shi`ahs believe that by Muhammad's direct order he appointed him successor on many occasions, that he was the rightful leader of the Muslims after Muhammad's passing, and that to follow Muhammad's true Sunnah one must support Ali's successorship. AFTER MUHAMMADS PASSING!!! ALL MUSLIMS WERE SUNNI DURING MUHAMMADS TIME SO DON'T EVEN TRY AND LIE!! If you didn't hear it from the Qur'an, or someone who is qualified to talk about Islam... FUCK WHAT YOU HEARD!! SHOVE A DICK IN YOUR EAR, AND FUCK WHAT YOU HEARD!! regardless of the timeline Hamzah Today we have various sects and all are hostile to each other to some degree and what of the caliphs what of there successions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterNetProphet Posted May 17, 2006 Author Share Posted May 17, 2006 So if they were all sunnis during mohammeds time and now fragmented into shiahs today...why does the sunni's allow them into mecca...are they cowards not able to speak their minds or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariama Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Do you ever listen of are you death and blind... It has already been explained to you that you are not allowed to question another persons Islam, if they tell you they are Muslims you cannot ask them anymore.... Unless you see an action from them which takes them outside of Islam then you cant do anything, and a lot of them LIKE I SAID are NOT, they are deviants, which is not the same thing!! You are an obvious Kafir and you are kept out of Macca, so whats the problem?? And LithalFind, Like I said, why do you think it hasnt been done...You are here and Allah is watching, just try it and you will see, you cant do it, so shut up and get over it, stop moaning and get on with your life... Quote I need to post something other than Islam hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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