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March 27, 2008

Iraqi Army's Assault on Militias in Basra Stalls

By JAMES GLANZ

BAGHDAD - An assault by thousands of Iraqi soldiers and police officers to
regain control of the southern port city of Basra stalled Wednesday as
Shiite militiamen in the Mahdi Army fought daylong hit-and-run battles and
refused to withdraw from the neighborhoods that form their base of power
there.

American officials have presented the Iraqi Army's attempts to secure the
port city as an example of its ability to carry out a major operation
against the insurgency on its own. A failure there would be a serious
embarrassment for the Iraqi government and for the army, as well as for
American forces eager to demonstrate that the Iraqi units they have trained
can fight effectively on their own.

During a briefing in Baghdad on Wednesday, a British military official said
that of the nearly 30,000 Iraqi security forces involved in the assault,
almost 16,000 were Basra police forces, which have long been suspected of
being infiltrated by the same militias the assault was intended to root out.

The operation is a significant political test for Prime Minister Nuri Kamal
al-Maliki, who traveled to Basra to oversee the beginning of the assault. It
is also a gamble for both the Iraqi and American governments. The Americans
distrust the renegade cleric Moktada al-Sadr and his Mahdi Army militia, who
consider the Americans occupiers.

The dominant Shiite groups in Mr. Maliki's government are political and
military rivals of Mr. Sadr, and Mr. Maliki is freer now to move against him
because Mr. Sadr's party is no longer a crucial part of his coalition.

But if the Mahdi Army breaks completely with the cease-fire that has helped
to tamp down attacks in Iraq during the past year, there is a risk of
replaying 2004, when the militia fought intense battles with American forces
that destabilized the entire country and ushered in years of escalating
violence. Renewed attacks, in turn, would make it more difficult to begin
sending home large numbers of American troops.

Mr. Maliki issued an ultimatum on Wednesday for Shiite militias in Basra to
put down their weapons within 72 hours. Yet battles continued, killing at
least 40 people and wounding 200 others, hospital officials said.

Though American and Iraqi officials have insisted that the operation was not
singling out a particular group, fighting appeared to focus on
Mahdi-controlled neighborhoods. In fact, some witnesses said, neighborhoods
controlled by rival political groups seemed to be giving government forces
safe passage, as if they were helping them to strike at the Mahdi Army.

Even so, the Mahdi fighters seemed to hold their ground. Witnesses said that
from the worn, closely packed brick buildings of one Mahdi stronghold, the
Hayaniya neighborhood, Mahdi fighters fired mortars, rocket-propelled
grenades, automatic weapons and sniper rifles at seemingly helpless Iraqi
Army units pinned on a main road outside, their armored vehicles unable to
enter the narrow streets.

The assault has also sparked continuing violence by outraged Mahdi
commanders in other major cities, including Baghdad, where the sprawling
urban slum called Sadr City forms the militia's power center in Iraq.

Most casualties in Basra were civilians caught in the cross-fire, hospital
officials said. The heaviest fighting outside Basra appeared to be taking
place in Kut, where officials said 10 people had been killed and 31 wounded,
mostly by mortar shells.

There were also deadly clashes in Diwaniya, Hilla and Amara, and the booms
of rocket fire rattled Baghdad all day. The American military said in a
statement that 16 rockets had been fired into the fortified Green Zone
alone, wounding one American soldier, two American civilians and an Iraqi
Army soldier.

But it was in Basra where the fighting was by far the most intense, and
terrified residents huddled inside their houses for a second day because of
a curfew and because anyone on the streets risked being killed.

A Basra newspaper editor who asked that his name not be used for fear of
reprisals said most residents despised the Mahdi Army and welcomed the
assault. But he said it was obvious that the central government had not
consulted with local commanders in planning the assault, citing the
inability of the armored vehicles to fit through city streets. But support
for the assault already seems to be eroding in several neighborhoods, as
militiamen retained control of their strongholds and residents were confined
in their homes. "The Mahdi Army is still controlling most of these places,"
the editor said. "The result is negative."

Local residents said the southern sections of Basra, mostly poor and heavily
populated, were still controlled by the Mahdi Army on Wednesday night. One
Mahdi commander bragged by telephone that after Iraqi armored vehicles
failed to gain access to his neighborhood, the Army units fled and his
fighters spray-painted Koranic slogans on the vehicles. The claim could not
be independently verified.

Both Mahdi and Iraqi Army officers agreed that some of the heaviest fighting
took place in the western Basra neighborhood of Hayaniya, where fighters
attacked the Iraqi forces and then retreated into the neighborhood.

Col. Abbas al-Tamimi, media officer for the 14th Iraqi Army Division
operating in the city, said he expected the fighting to escalate. "The
gunmen have heavier and more sophisticated weapons than we have," he said.

Although Basra is dominated by Shiite political parties and their militias,
the landscape is one of enormous complexity. The Fadhila party, which split
from Mr. Sadr's party years ago, dominates the provincial council. But there
is also substantial representation by the Dawa Movement and the Islamic
Supreme Council of Iraq. The movement, previously known as Sciri, has
changed its name and is now referred to as ISCI.

Mr. Sadr's party has no council seats, having boycotted the elections, but
its Mahdi Army is the most feared armed group on the streets. Still, it
shares influence with the Supreme Council's armed wing, called the Badr
Organization, the Fadhila militia and others.

The division of the spoils among the armed groups is often quite specific.
Fadhila controls the electricity sector and shares power with the Mahdi at
the ports; Dawa and Fadhila have a strong grip in the lucrative southern oil
operations, and a different branch of Dawa - the one to which Mr. Maliki
belongs - holds sway at the Basra airport.

In practice, the rising power and aggressive tactics have generally turned
Fadhila and the Supreme Council against the Mahdi - a politically
significant fact for Mr. Maliki, whose coalition depends heavily on the
Supreme Council's support.
 
<lorad474@cs.com> wrote in message
news:1940facc-0035-47fe-864a-34d9399bb232@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 26, 7:52 pm, "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> March 27, 2008
>>
>> Iraqi Army's Assault on Militias in Basra Stalls

>
> They sent in 15,000 greenhorn troops to attempt to suppress 60,000
> highly dedicated (and entrenched in their home) fanatics...
> Of course it will stall.
>



You need to read the
whole article to see
how badly this misguided
incompetently managed plan
was executed.

The outcome is inevitable:

Our administration moves from one failure to another:

====================

March 27, 2008

Iraqi Army's Assault on Militias in Basra Stalls

By JAMES GLANZ

BAGHDAD - An assault by thousands of Iraqi soldiers and police officers to
regain control of the southern port city of Basra stalled Wednesday as
Shiite militiamen in the Mahdi Army fought daylong hit-and-run battles and
refused to withdraw from the neighborhoods that form their base of power
there.

American officials have presented the Iraqi Army's attempts to secure the
port city as an example of its ability to carry out a major operation
against the insurgency on its own. A failure there would be a serious
embarrassment for the Iraqi government and for the army, as well as for
American forces eager to demonstrate that the Iraqi units they have trained
can fight effectively on their own.

During a briefing in Baghdad on Wednesday, a British military official said
that of the nearly 30,000 Iraqi security forces involved in the assault,
almost 16,000 were Basra police forces, which have long been suspected of
being infiltrated by the same militias the assault was intended to root out.

The operation is a significant political test for Prime Minister Nuri Kamal
al-Maliki, who traveled to Basra to oversee the beginning of the assault. It
is also a gamble for both the Iraqi and American governments. The Americans
distrust the renegade cleric Moktada al-Sadr and his Mahdi Army militia, who
consider the Americans occupiers.

The dominant Shiite groups in Mr. Maliki's government are political and
military rivals of Mr. Sadr, and Mr. Maliki is freer now to move against him
because Mr. Sadr's party is no longer a crucial part of his coalition.

But if the Mahdi Army breaks completely with the cease-fire that has helped
to tamp down attacks in Iraq during the past year, there is a risk of
replaying 2004, when the militia fought intense battles with American forces
that destabilized the entire country and ushered in years of escalating
violence. Renewed attacks, in turn, would make it more difficult to begin
sending home large numbers of American troops.

Mr. Maliki issued an ultimatum on Wednesday for Shiite militias in Basra to
put down their weapons within 72 hours. Yet battles continued, killing at
least 40 people and wounding 200 others, hospital officials said.

Though American and Iraqi officials have insisted that the operation was not
singling out a particular group, fighting appeared to focus on
Mahdi-controlled neighborhoods. In fact, some witnesses said, neighborhoods
controlled by rival political groups seemed to be giving government forces
safe passage, as if they were helping them to strike at the Mahdi Army.

Even so, the Mahdi fighters seemed to hold their ground. Witnesses said that
from the worn, closely packed brick buildings of one Mahdi stronghold, the
Hayaniya neighborhood, Mahdi fighters fired mortars, rocket-propelled
grenades, automatic weapons and sniper rifles at seemingly helpless Iraqi
Army units pinned on a main road outside, their armored vehicles unable to
enter the narrow streets.

The assault has also sparked continuing violence by outraged Mahdi
commanders in other major cities, including Baghdad, where the sprawling
urban slum called Sadr City forms the militia's power center in Iraq.

Most casualties in Basra were civilians caught in the cross-fire, hospital
officials said. The heaviest fighting outside Basra appeared to be taking
place in Kut, where officials said 10 people had been killed and 31 wounded,
mostly by mortar shells.

There were also deadly clashes in Diwaniya, Hilla and Amara, and the booms
of rocket fire rattled Baghdad all day. The American military said in a
statement that 16 rockets had been fired into the fortified Green Zone
alone, wounding one American soldier, two American civilians and an Iraqi
Army soldier.

But it was in Basra where the fighting was by far the most intense, and
terrified residents huddled inside their houses for a second day because of
a curfew and because anyone on the streets risked being killed.

A Basra newspaper editor who asked that his name not be used for fear of
reprisals said most residents despised the Mahdi Army and welcomed the
assault. But he said it was obvious that the central government had not
consulted with local commanders in planning the assault, citing the
inability of the armored vehicles to fit through city streets. But support
for the assault already seems to be eroding in several neighborhoods, as
militiamen retained control of their strongholds and residents were confined
in their homes. "The Mahdi Army is still controlling most of these places,"
the editor said. "The result is negative."

Local residents said the southern sections of Basra, mostly poor and heavily
populated, were still controlled by the Mahdi Army on Wednesday night. One
Mahdi commander bragged by telephone that after Iraqi armored vehicles
failed to gain access to his neighborhood, the Army units fled and his
fighters spray-painted Koranic slogans on the vehicles. The claim could not
be independently verified.

Both Mahdi and Iraqi Army officers agreed that some of the heaviest fighting
took place in the western Basra neighborhood of Hayaniya, where fighters
attacked the Iraqi forces and then retreated into the neighborhood.

Col. Abbas al-Tamimi, media officer for the 14th Iraqi Army Division
operating in the city, said he expected the fighting to escalate. "The
gunmen have heavier and more sophisticated weapons than we have," he said.

Although Basra is dominated by Shiite political parties and their militias,
the landscape is one of enormous complexity. The Fadhila party, which split
from Mr. Sadr's party years ago, dominates the provincial council. But there
is also substantial representation by the Dawa Movement and the Islamic
Supreme Council of Iraq. The movement, previously known as Sciri, has
changed its name and is now referred to as ISCI.

Mr. Sadr's party has no council seats, having boycotted the elections, but
its Mahdi Army is the most feared armed group on the streets. Still, it
shares influence with the Supreme Council's armed wing, called the Badr
Organization, the Fadhila militia and others.

The division of the spoils among the armed groups is often quite specific.
Fadhila controls the electricity sector and shares power with the Mahdi at
the ports; Dawa and Fadhila have a strong grip in the lucrative southern oil
operations, and a different branch of Dawa - the one to which Mr. Maliki
belongs - holds sway at the Basra airport.

In practice, the rising power and aggressive tactics have generally turned
Fadhila and the Supreme Council against the Mahdi - a politically
significant fact for Mr. Maliki, whose coalition depends heavily on the
Supreme Council's support.
 
<lorad474@cs.com> wrote in message
news:1940facc-0035-47fe-864a-34d9399bb232@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 26, 7:52 pm, "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> March 27, 2008
>
> Iraqi Army's Assault on Militias in Basra Stalls


They sent in 15,000 greenhorn troops to attempt to suppress 60,000
highly dedicated (and entrenched in their home) fanatics...
Of course it will stall.


You can bet your ass that the republicans
will spin this stalled assault as a major
success, proving once and for all that
Bush was right to flush away all those
American lives!

They will say "See, if we stay there
another 600 years then the Iraqi
Army will be ready to take over
some of our duties, and a few of
our boys will be able to come home".

It's only a matter of time now!
 
lorad474@cs.com wrote:
> On Mar 26, 7:52 pm, "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> March 27, 2008
>>
>> Iraqi Army's Assault on Militias in Basra Stalls

>
> They sent in 15,000 greenhorn troops to attempt to suppress 60,000
> highly dedicated (and entrenched in their home) fanatics...
> Of course it will stall.
>


How can you write sentence and a half like that without forming the
logical conclusion of "Why the hell are our soldiers suppressing
foreigners in their own homes?"
 
lorad474@cs.com wrote:
> On Mar 27, 12:30 am, Marinus van der Lubbe <m...@reichstagbrand.de>
> wrote:
>> lorad...@cs.com wrote:
>>> On Mar 26, 7:52 pm, "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>> March 27, 2008
>>>> Iraqi Army's Assault on Militias in Basra Stalls
>>> They sent in 15,000 greenhorn troops to attempt to suppress 60,000
>>> highly dedicated (and entrenched in their home) fanatics...
>>> Of course it will stall.

>> How can you write sentence and a half like that without forming the
>> logical conclusion of "Why the hell are our soldiers suppressing
>> foreigners in their own homes?"

>
> If you would motivate your myopic and overly puffed-up self to read
> beyond this particular screed.. you might in fact notice my expressed
> opinions regarding the Iraq fiasco...
>
> Barring that.. just go back and correct yourself..
> The troops were not US troops - but were Iraqi troops.
>
> PS: Update: Entire platoons of the Iraqi troops have (BBC) reportedly
> switched sides in Basra.. going over to the Muqtadas.


You are still not reading the article. They did not switch, they were
always Mahdi "Army" insurgents.

You meant the 16,000 police not the 15,000--well, by this time, there
are no green horn troops, but the 15,000 we had to reallocate from the
Surge since Britain pulled out of Basra 6 months ago.

As to the police, you might not believe this, but before we got there,
Iraq had police, firemen, secret police, electricity, sewage-free water,
and more doctorates per capita than America.
 
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