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Clinton's Brother Settles Debt Suit

 

Sep 13 11:43 AM US/Eastern

By TRAVIS LOLLER

Associated Press Writer

 

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - A lawsuit accusing Democratic presidential candidate Hillary

Rodham Clinton's brother of failing to repay debts to a Tennessee carnival operator

has been settled.

Tony Rodham was accused of failing to repay $107,000 plus interest to the bankrupt

estate of Edgar Allen Gregory Jr. and his wife, Vonna Jo, both of whom received a

presidential pardon in 2000.

 

The case was scheduled to go to trial on Thursday, but the parties reached a

settlement agreement, said Rodham attorney Samuel Crocker. The terms were not

disclosed.

 

Rodham had claimed in court documents the money he received from the Gregorys was for

consulting services, but the trustee for the Gregory estate said it was a loan.

 

The Gregorys received pardons for a bank fraud conviction from President Clinton

about two years after Rodham became a paid consultant to United Shows of America, a

carnival business the couple owned.

 

Rodham has said he talked to his brother-in-law about the pardon, but he said

President Clinton made the decision to grant clemency on the merits of their case.

 

After President Clinton left office, the Republican-controlled House Committee on

Government Reform found that United Shows paid Rodham $240,000 for undocumented

consulting services and that President Clinton was interested in the pardons solely

because of his contacts with Rodham.

 

Hillary Clinton, a New York senator, has said her brother was not paid for his help

with the Gregorys' pardon.

 

Another brother, Hugh Rodham, was paid more than $400,000 for his successful efforts

to win pardons for a businessman under investigation for money laundering and a

commutation for a convicted drug trafficker. He eventually returned the money at his

sister's request.

 

In the closing hours of his presidency, Bill Clinton pardoned 140 people, including

billionaire financier Marc Rich, who fled the United States in 1983 rather than face

charges of tax evasion, fraud and making illegal oil deals with Iran.

 

Rich's ex-wife, songwriter Denise Rich, contributed $450,000 to the Clinton

presidential library project, $1.1 million to the Democratic Party and at least

$109,000 to Hillary Clinton's bid for the Senate.

 

Hillary Clinton, who has been critical of President Bush's decision to commute the

sentence of former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, said her husband's

pardons were simply a routine exercise in the use of the pardon power, and none was

aimed at protecting the Clinton presidency or legacy.

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Guest Gregg Luze

Now, go and explore president Reagan's pardons and president Bush 41's

pardons and then you may have something to discuss. But, with your being a

partisan Republican, you would not post that information. The truth hurts

the mystique that Republicans are trying to build around their

ex-presidents.

 

G

 

"AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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>

> Clinton's Brother Settles Debt Suit

>

> Sep 13 11:43 AM US/Eastern

> By TRAVIS LOLLER

> Associated Press Writer

>

> NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - A lawsuit accusing Democratic presidential

> candidate Hillary

> Rodham Clinton's brother of failing to repay debts to a Tennessee carnival

> operator

> has been settled.

> Tony Rodham was accused of failing to repay $107,000 plus interest to the

> bankrupt

> estate of Edgar Allen Gregory Jr. and his wife, Vonna Jo, both of whom

> received a

> presidential pardon in 2000.

>

> The case was scheduled to go to trial on Thursday, but the parties reached

> a

> settlement agreement, said Rodham attorney Samuel Crocker. The terms were

> not

> disclosed.

>

> Rodham had claimed in court documents the money he received from the

> Gregorys was for

> consulting services, but the trustee for the Gregory estate said it was a

> loan.

>

> The Gregorys received pardons for a bank fraud conviction from President

> Clinton

> about two years after Rodham became a paid consultant to United Shows of

> America, a

> carnival business the couple owned.

>

> Rodham has said he talked to his brother-in-law about the pardon, but he

> said

> President Clinton made the decision to grant clemency on the merits of

> their case.

>

> After President Clinton left office, the Republican-controlled House

> Committee on

> Government Reform found that United Shows paid Rodham $240,000 for

> undocumented

> consulting services and that President Clinton was interested in the

> pardons solely

> because of his contacts with Rodham.

>

> Hillary Clinton, a New York senator, has said her brother was not paid for

> his help

> with the Gregorys' pardon.

>

> Another brother, Hugh Rodham, was paid more than $400,000 for his

> successful efforts

> to win pardons for a businessman under investigation for money laundering

> and a

> commutation for a convicted drug trafficker. He eventually returned the

> money at his

> sister's request.

>

> In the closing hours of his presidency, Bill Clinton pardoned 140 people,

> including

> billionaire financier Marc Rich, who fled the United States in 1983 rather

> than face

> charges of tax evasion, fraud and making illegal oil deals with Iran.

>

> Rich's ex-wife, songwriter Denise Rich, contributed $450,000 to the

> Clinton

> presidential library project, $1.1 million to the Democratic Party and at

> least

> $109,000 to Hillary Clinton's bid for the Senate.

>

> Hillary Clinton, who has been critical of President Bush's decision to

> commute the

> sentence of former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, said her

> husband's

> pardons were simply a routine exercise in the use of the pardon power, and

> none was

> aimed at protecting the Clinton presidency or legacy.

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"Gregg Luze" <Gregg@Strutz.com> wrote in message

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> Now, go and explore president Reagan's pardons and president Bush 41's

> pardons and then you may have something to discuss. But, with your being

> a partisan Republican, you would not post that information. The truth

> hurts the mystique that Republicans are trying to build around their

> ex-presidents.

 

Well yeah.. Clinton is a crook... but but but but...

 

> "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:7j0je3l8bv8turfjup7jkcvkcomrc416v7@4ax.com...

>>

>> Clinton's Brother Settles Debt Suit

>>

>> Sep 13 11:43 AM US/Eastern

>> By TRAVIS LOLLER

>> Associated Press Writer

>>

>> NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - A lawsuit accusing Democratic presidential

>> candidate Hillary

>> Rodham Clinton's brother of failing to repay debts to a Tennessee

>> carnival operator

>> has been settled.

>> Tony Rodham was accused of failing to repay $107,000 plus interest to the

>> bankrupt

>> estate of Edgar Allen Gregory Jr. and his wife, Vonna Jo, both of whom

>> received a

>> presidential pardon in 2000.

>>

>> The case was scheduled to go to trial on Thursday, but the parties

>> reached a

>> settlement agreement, said Rodham attorney Samuel Crocker. The terms were

>> not

>> disclosed.

>>

>> Rodham had claimed in court documents the money he received from the

>> Gregorys was for

>> consulting services, but the trustee for the Gregory estate said it was a

>> loan.

>>

>> The Gregorys received pardons for a bank fraud conviction from President

>> Clinton

>> about two years after Rodham became a paid consultant to United Shows of

>> America, a

>> carnival business the couple owned.

>>

>> Rodham has said he talked to his brother-in-law about the pardon, but he

>> said

>> President Clinton made the decision to grant clemency on the merits of

>> their case.

>>

>> After President Clinton left office, the Republican-controlled House

>> Committee on

>> Government Reform found that United Shows paid Rodham $240,000 for

>> undocumented

>> consulting services and that President Clinton was interested in the

>> pardons solely

>> because of his contacts with Rodham.

>>

>> Hillary Clinton, a New York senator, has said her brother was not paid

>> for his help

>> with the Gregorys' pardon.

>>

>> Another brother, Hugh Rodham, was paid more than $400,000 for his

>> successful efforts

>> to win pardons for a businessman under investigation for money laundering

>> and a

>> commutation for a convicted drug trafficker. He eventually returned the

>> money at his

>> sister's request.

>>

>> In the closing hours of his presidency, Bill Clinton pardoned 140 people,

>> including

>> billionaire financier Marc Rich, who fled the United States in 1983

>> rather than face

>> charges of tax evasion, fraud and making illegal oil deals with Iran.

>>

>> Rich's ex-wife, songwriter Denise Rich, contributed $450,000 to the

>> Clinton

>> presidential library project, $1.1 million to the Democratic Party and at

>> least

>> $109,000 to Hillary Clinton's bid for the Senate.

>>

>> Hillary Clinton, who has been critical of President Bush's decision to

>> commute the

>> sentence of former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, said her

>> husband's

>> pardons were simply a routine exercise in the use of the pardon power,

>> and none was

>> aimed at protecting the Clinton presidency or legacy.

>

>

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Hillary Clinton.

 

Bill Clinton.

 

Two different people.

 

 

"AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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>

> Clinton's Brother Settles Debt Suit

>

> Sep 13 11:43 AM US/Eastern

> By TRAVIS LOLLER

> Associated Press Writer

>

> NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - A lawsuit accusing Democratic presidential

> candidate Hillary

> Rodham Clinton's brother of failing to repay debts to a Tennessee carnival

> operator

> has been settled.

> Tony Rodham was accused of failing to repay $107,000 plus interest to the

> bankrupt

> estate of Edgar Allen Gregory Jr. and his wife, Vonna Jo, both of whom

> received a

> presidential pardon in 2000.

>

> The case was scheduled to go to trial on Thursday, but the parties reached

> a

> settlement agreement, said Rodham attorney Samuel Crocker. The terms were

> not

> disclosed.

>

> Rodham had claimed in court documents the money he received from the

> Gregorys was for

> consulting services, but the trustee for the Gregory estate said it was a

> loan.

>

> The Gregorys received pardons for a bank fraud conviction from President

> Clinton

> about two years after Rodham became a paid consultant to United Shows of

> America, a

> carnival business the couple owned.

>

> Rodham has said he talked to his brother-in-law about the pardon, but he

> said

> President Clinton made the decision to grant clemency on the merits of

> their case.

>

> After President Clinton left office, the Republican-controlled House

> Committee on

> Government Reform found that United Shows paid Rodham $240,000 for

> undocumented

> consulting services and that President Clinton was interested in the

> pardons solely

> because of his contacts with Rodham.

>

> Hillary Clinton, a New York senator, has said her brother was not paid for

> his help

> with the Gregorys' pardon.

>

> Another brother, Hugh Rodham, was paid more than $400,000 for his

> successful efforts

> to win pardons for a businessman under investigation for money laundering

> and a

> commutation for a convicted drug trafficker. He eventually returned the

> money at his

> sister's request.

>

> In the closing hours of his presidency, Bill Clinton pardoned 140 people,

> including

> billionaire financier Marc Rich, who fled the United States in 1983 rather

> than face

> charges of tax evasion, fraud and making illegal oil deals with Iran.

>

> Rich's ex-wife, songwriter Denise Rich, contributed $450,000 to the

> Clinton

> presidential library project, $1.1 million to the Democratic Party and at

> least

> $109,000 to Hillary Clinton's bid for the Senate.

>

> Hillary Clinton, who has been critical of President Bush's decision to

> commute the

> sentence of former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, said her

> husband's

> pardons were simply a routine exercise in the use of the pardon power, and

> none was

> aimed at protecting the Clinton presidency or legacy.

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"Gregg Luze" <Gregg@Strutz.com> wrote in message

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> Now, go and explore president Reagan's pardons and president Bush 41's

> pardons and then you may have something to discuss. But, with your being

> a partisan Republican, you would not post that information. The truth

> hurts the mystique that Republicans are trying to build around their

> ex-presidents.

 

Goddamn it, Lutz! How many times have I got to tell you! When someone brings

up Clinton you're supposed to say:

 

Clinton Clinton Clinton.. Clinton is not president anymore you obsessed with

his dick moron.

 

Now, write it a hundred times so that you don't forget this time.

 

Damn moron..

 

Gheez...

 

> "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:7j0je3l8bv8turfjup7jkcvkcomrc416v7@4ax.com...

>>

>> Clinton's Brother Settles Debt Suit

>>

>> Sep 13 11:43 AM US/Eastern

>> By TRAVIS LOLLER

>> Associated Press Writer

>>

>> NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - A lawsuit accusing Democratic presidential

>> candidate Hillary

>> Rodham Clinton's brother of failing to repay debts to a Tennessee

>> carnival operator

>> has been settled.

>> Tony Rodham was accused of failing to repay $107,000 plus interest to the

>> bankrupt

>> estate of Edgar Allen Gregory Jr. and his wife, Vonna Jo, both of whom

>> received a

>> presidential pardon in 2000.

>>

>> The case was scheduled to go to trial on Thursday, but the parties

>> reached a

>> settlement agreement, said Rodham attorney Samuel Crocker. The terms were

>> not

>> disclosed.

>>

>> Rodham had claimed in court documents the money he received from the

>> Gregorys was for

>> consulting services, but the trustee for the Gregory estate said it was a

>> loan.

>>

>> The Gregorys received pardons for a bank fraud conviction from President

>> Clinton

>> about two years after Rodham became a paid consultant to United Shows of

>> America, a

>> carnival business the couple owned.

>>

>> Rodham has said he talked to his brother-in-law about the pardon, but he

>> said

>> President Clinton made the decision to grant clemency on the merits of

>> their case.

>>

>> After President Clinton left office, the Republican-controlled House

>> Committee on

>> Government Reform found that United Shows paid Rodham $240,000 for

>> undocumented

>> consulting services and that President Clinton was interested in the

>> pardons solely

>> because of his contacts with Rodham.

>>

>> Hillary Clinton, a New York senator, has said her brother was not paid

>> for his help

>> with the Gregorys' pardon.

>>

>> Another brother, Hugh Rodham, was paid more than $400,000 for his

>> successful efforts

>> to win pardons for a businessman under investigation for money laundering

>> and a

>> commutation for a convicted drug trafficker. He eventually returned the

>> money at his

>> sister's request.

>>

>> In the closing hours of his presidency, Bill Clinton pardoned 140 people,

>> including

>> billionaire financier Marc Rich, who fled the United States in 1983

>> rather than face

>> charges of tax evasion, fraud and making illegal oil deals with Iran.

>>

>> Rich's ex-wife, songwriter Denise Rich, contributed $450,000 to the

>> Clinton

>> presidential library project, $1.1 million to the Democratic Party and at

>> least

>> $109,000 to Hillary Clinton's bid for the Senate.

>>

>> Hillary Clinton, who has been critical of President Bush's decision to

>> commute the

>> sentence of former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, said her

>> husband's

>> pardons were simply a routine exercise in the use of the pardon power,

>> and none was

>> aimed at protecting the Clinton presidency or legacy.

>

>

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> Hillary Clinton.

>

> Bill Clinton.

>

> Two different people.

 

Aww.. Running from Bill now are we?

 

> "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:7j0je3l8bv8turfjup7jkcvkcomrc416v7@4ax.com...

>>

>> Clinton's Brother Settles Debt Suit

>>

>> Sep 13 11:43 AM US/Eastern

>> By TRAVIS LOLLER

>> Associated Press Writer

>>

>> NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - A lawsuit accusing Democratic presidential

>> candidate Hillary

>> Rodham Clinton's brother of failing to repay debts to a Tennessee

>> carnival operator

>> has been settled.

>> Tony Rodham was accused of failing to repay $107,000 plus interest to the

>> bankrupt

>> estate of Edgar Allen Gregory Jr. and his wife, Vonna Jo, both of whom

>> received a

>> presidential pardon in 2000.

>>

>> The case was scheduled to go to trial on Thursday, but the parties

>> reached a

>> settlement agreement, said Rodham attorney Samuel Crocker. The terms were

>> not

>> disclosed.

>>

>> Rodham had claimed in court documents the money he received from the

>> Gregorys was for

>> consulting services, but the trustee for the Gregory estate said it was a

>> loan.

>>

>> The Gregorys received pardons for a bank fraud conviction from President

>> Clinton

>> about two years after Rodham became a paid consultant to United Shows of

>> America, a

>> carnival business the couple owned.

>>

>> Rodham has said he talked to his brother-in-law about the pardon, but he

>> said

>> President Clinton made the decision to grant clemency on the merits of

>> their case.

>>

>> After President Clinton left office, the Republican-controlled House

>> Committee on

>> Government Reform found that United Shows paid Rodham $240,000 for

>> undocumented

>> consulting services and that President Clinton was interested in the

>> pardons solely

>> because of his contacts with Rodham.

>>

>> Hillary Clinton, a New York senator, has said her brother was not paid

>> for his help

>> with the Gregorys' pardon.

>>

>> Another brother, Hugh Rodham, was paid more than $400,000 for his

>> successful efforts

>> to win pardons for a businessman under investigation for money laundering

>> and a

>> commutation for a convicted drug trafficker. He eventually returned the

>> money at his

>> sister's request.

>>

>> In the closing hours of his presidency, Bill Clinton pardoned 140 people,

>> including

>> billionaire financier Marc Rich, who fled the United States in 1983

>> rather than face

>> charges of tax evasion, fraud and making illegal oil deals with Iran.

>>

>> Rich's ex-wife, songwriter Denise Rich, contributed $450,000 to the

>> Clinton

>> presidential library project, $1.1 million to the Democratic Party and at

>> least

>> $109,000 to Hillary Clinton's bid for the Senate.

>>

>> Hillary Clinton, who has been critical of President Bush's decision to

>> commute the

>> sentence of former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, said her

>> husband's

>> pardons were simply a routine exercise in the use of the pardon power,

>> and none was

>> aimed at protecting the Clinton presidency or legacy.

>

>

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Slick pardoned relatives, friends, influencial folks that could line his pocket and

build his library. Show a listing of the Reagan and Bush, Sr., and I'll be glad to

comment....AAC

 

 

 

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:46:56 -0700, "Gregg Luze" <Gregg@Strutz.com> wrote:

>Now, go and explore president Reagan's pardons and president Bush 41's

>pardons and then you may have something to discuss. But, with your being a

>partisan Republican, you would not post that information. The truth hurts

>the mystique that Republicans are trying to build around their

>ex-presidents.

>

>G

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Slick pardoned relatives, friends, influencial folks that could line his pocket and

build his library. Show a listing of the Reagan and Bush, Sr., and I'll be glad to

comment....AAC

 

 

 

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:46:56 -0700, "Gregg Luze" <Gregg@Strutz.com> wrote:

>Now, go and explore president Reagan's pardons and president Bush 41's

>pardons and then you may have something to discuss. But, with your being a

>partisan Republican, you would not post that information. The truth hurts

>the mystique that Republicans are trying to build around their

>ex-presidents.

>

>G

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"Howard Dean" <MF@yomoashouse.com> wrote in message

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>

> "Gregg Luze" <Gregg@Strutz.com> wrote in message

> news:13ej4sh3kiougfe@corp.supernews.com...

>> Now, go and explore president Reagan's pardons and president Bush 41's

>> pardons and then you may have something to discuss. But, with your being

>> a partisan Republican, you would not post that information. The truth

>> hurts the mystique that Republicans are trying to build around their

>> ex-presidents.

>

> Goddamn it, Lutz! How many times have I got to tell you! When someone

> brings up Clinton you're supposed to say:

>

> Clinton Clinton Clinton.. Clinton is not president anymore you obsessed

> with his dick moron.

>

> Now, write it a hundred times so that you don't forget this time.

>

> Damn moron..

>

> Gheez...

>

>

>> "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>> news:7j0je3l8bv8turfjup7jkcvkcomrc416v7@4ax.com...

>>>

>>> Clinton's Brother Settles Debt Suit

>>>

>>> Sep 13 11:43 AM US/Eastern

>>> By TRAVIS LOLLER

>>> Associated Press Writer

>>>

>>> NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - A lawsuit accusing Democratic presidential

>>> candidate Hillary

>>> Rodham Clinton's brother of failing to repay debts to a Tennessee

>>> carnival operator

>>> has been settled.

>>> Tony Rodham was accused of failing to repay $107,000 plus interest to

>>> the bankrupt

>>> estate of Edgar Allen Gregory Jr. and his wife, Vonna Jo, both of whom

>>> received a

>>> presidential pardon in 2000.

>>>

>>> The case was scheduled to go to trial on Thursday, but the parties

>>> reached a

>>> settlement agreement, said Rodham attorney Samuel Crocker. The terms

>>> were not

>>> disclosed.

>>>

>>> Rodham had claimed in court documents the money he received from the

>>> Gregorys was for

>>> consulting services, but the trustee for the Gregory estate said it was

>>> a loan.

>>>

>>> The Gregorys received pardons for a bank fraud conviction from President

>>> Clinton

>>> about two years after Rodham became a paid consultant to United Shows of

>>> America, a

>>> carnival business the couple owned.

>>>

>>> Rodham has said he talked to his brother-in-law about the pardon, but he

>>> said

>>> President Clinton made the decision to grant clemency on the merits of

>>> their case.

>>>

>>> After President Clinton left office, the Republican-controlled House

>>> Committee on

>>> Government Reform found that United Shows paid Rodham $240,000 for

>>> undocumented

>>> consulting services and that President Clinton was interested in the

>>> pardons solely

>>> because of his contacts with Rodham.

>>>

>>> Hillary Clinton, a New York senator, has said her brother was not paid

>>> for his help

>>> with the Gregorys' pardon.

>>>

>>> Another brother, Hugh Rodham, was paid more than $400,000 for his

>>> successful efforts

>>> to win pardons for a businessman under investigation for money

>>> laundering and a

>>> commutation for a convicted drug trafficker. He eventually returned the

>>> money at his

>>> sister's request.

>>>

>>> In the closing hours of his presidency, Bill Clinton pardoned 140

>>> people, including

>>> billionaire financier Marc Rich, who fled the United States in 1983

>>> rather than face

>>> charges of tax evasion, fraud and making illegal oil deals with Iran.

>>>

>>> Rich's ex-wife, songwriter Denise Rich, contributed $450,000 to the

>>> Clinton

>>> presidential library project, $1.1 million to the Democratic Party and

>>> at least

>>> $109,000 to Hillary Clinton's bid for the Senate.

>>>

>>> Hillary Clinton, who has been critical of President Bush's decision to

>>> commute the

>>> sentence of former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, said her

>>> husband's

>>> pardons were simply a routine exercise in the use of the pardon power,

>>> and none was

>>> aimed at protecting the Clinton presidency or legacy.

>>

>>

>

>

 

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>

> "Gregg Luze" <Gregg@Strutz.com> wrote in message

> news:13ej4sh3kiougfe@corp.supernews.com...

>> Now, go and explore president Reagan's pardons and president Bush 41's

>> pardons and then you may have something to discuss. But, with your being

>> a partisan Republican, you would not post that information. The truth

>> hurts the mystique that Republicans are trying to build around their

>> ex-presidents.

>

> Goddamn it, Lutz! How many times have I got to tell you! When someone

> brings up Clinton you're supposed to say:

>

> Clinton Clinton Clinton.. Clinton is not president anymore you obsessed

> with his dick moron.

>

> Now, write it a hundred times so that you don't forget this time.

>

> Damn moron..

>

> Gheez...

>

>

>> "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>> news:7j0je3l8bv8turfjup7jkcvkcomrc416v7@4ax.com...

>>>

>>> Clinton's Brother Settles Debt Suit

>>>

>>> Sep 13 11:43 AM US/Eastern

>>> By TRAVIS LOLLER

>>> Associated Press Writer

>>>

>>> NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - A lawsuit accusing Democratic presidential

>>> candidate Hillary

>>> Rodham Clinton's brother of failing to repay debts to a Tennessee

>>> carnival operator

>>> has been settled.

>>> Tony Rodham was accused of failing to repay $107,000 plus interest to

>>> the bankrupt

>>> estate of Edgar Allen Gregory Jr. and his wife, Vonna Jo, both of whom

>>> received a

>>> presidential pardon in 2000.

>>>

>>> The case was scheduled to go to trial on Thursday, but the parties

>>> reached a

>>> settlement agreement, said Rodham attorney Samuel Crocker. The terms

>>> were not

>>> disclosed.

>>>

>>> Rodham had claimed in court documents the money he received from the

>>> Gregorys was for

>>> consulting services, but the trustee for the Gregory estate said it was

>>> a loan.

>>>

>>> The Gregorys received pardons for a bank fraud conviction from President

>>> Clinton

>>> about two years after Rodham became a paid consultant to United Shows of

>>> America, a

>>> carnival business the couple owned.

>>>

>>> Rodham has said he talked to his brother-in-law about the pardon, but he

>>> said

>>> President Clinton made the decision to grant clemency on the merits of

>>> their case.

>>>

>>> After President Clinton left office, the Republican-controlled House

>>> Committee on

>>> Government Reform found that United Shows paid Rodham $240,000 for

>>> undocumented

>>> consulting services and that President Clinton was interested in the

>>> pardons solely

>>> because of his contacts with Rodham.

>>>

>>> Hillary Clinton, a New York senator, has said her brother was not paid

>>> for his help

>>> with the Gregorys' pardon.

>>>

>>> Another brother, Hugh Rodham, was paid more than $400,000 for his

>>> successful efforts

>>> to win pardons for a businessman under investigation for money

>>> laundering and a

>>> commutation for a convicted drug trafficker. He eventually returned the

>>> money at his

>>> sister's request.

>>>

>>> In the closing hours of his presidency, Bill Clinton pardoned 140

>>> people, including

>>> billionaire financier Marc Rich, who fled the United States in 1983

>>> rather than face

>>> charges of tax evasion, fraud and making illegal oil deals with Iran.

>>>

>>> Rich's ex-wife, songwriter Denise Rich, contributed $450,000 to the

>>> Clinton

>>> presidential library project, $1.1 million to the Democratic Party and

>>> at least

>>> $109,000 to Hillary Clinton's bid for the Senate.

>>>

>>> Hillary Clinton, who has been critical of President Bush's decision to

>>> commute the

>>> sentence of former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, said her

>>> husband's

>>> pardons were simply a routine exercise in the use of the pardon power,

>>> and none was

>>> aimed at protecting the Clinton presidency or legacy.

>>

>>

>

>

 

Get it straight to whom you are responding.

 

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Thanks, do your own homework if you are interested in the subject. If you

are unwilling to look it up yourself, as always happens with you, then you

are not interested enough in the subject to be taken seriously.

 

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>

> Slick pardoned relatives, friends, influencial folks that could line his

> pocket and

> build his library. Show a listing of the Reagan and Bush, Sr., and I'll

> be glad to

> comment....AAC

>

>

>

> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:46:56 -0700, "Gregg Luze" <Gregg@Strutz.com> wrote:

>

>>Now, go and explore president Reagan's pardons and president Bush 41's

>>pardons and then you may have something to discuss. But, with your being

>>a

>>partisan Republican, you would not post that information. The truth hurts

>>the mystique that Republicans are trying to build around their

>>ex-presidents.

>>

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Thanks, do your own homework if you are interested in the subject. If you

are unwilling to look it up yourself, as always happens with you, then you

are not interested enough in the subject to be taken seriously.

 

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"AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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>

> Slick pardoned relatives, friends, influencial folks that could line his

> pocket and

> build his library. Show a listing of the Reagan and Bush, Sr., and I'll

> be glad to

> comment....AAC

>

>

>

> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:46:56 -0700, "Gregg Luze" <Gregg@Strutz.com> wrote:

>

>>Now, go and explore president Reagan's pardons and president Bush 41's

>>pardons and then you may have something to discuss. But, with your being

>>a

>>partisan Republican, you would not post that information. The truth hurts

>>the mystique that Republicans are trying to build around their

>>ex-presidents.

>>

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Mike, not interested in a serious conversation, huh? Or is it that you

already know that for every questionable pardon that President Clinton gave

there were three questionable pardons given by president Reagan and that in

only four years president Bush 41 let more questionable criminals be

pardoned than president Clinton did in eight years.

 

G

 

"Mike Flannigan" <MF@yomoashouse.com> wrote in message

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>

> "Gregg Luze" <Gregg@Strutz.com> wrote in message

> news:13ej4sh3kiougfe@corp.supernews.com...

>> Now, go and explore president Reagan's pardons and president Bush 41's

>> pardons and then you may have something to discuss. But, with your being

>> a partisan Republican, you would not post that information. The truth

>> hurts the mystique that Republicans are trying to build around their

>> ex-presidents.

>

> Well yeah.. Clinton is a crook... but but but but...

>

>

>> "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>> news:7j0je3l8bv8turfjup7jkcvkcomrc416v7@4ax.com...

>>>

>>> Clinton's Brother Settles Debt Suit

>>>

>>> Sep 13 11:43 AM US/Eastern

>>> By TRAVIS LOLLER

>>> Associated Press Writer

>>>

>>> NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - A lawsuit accusing Democratic presidential

>>> candidate Hillary

>>> Rodham Clinton's brother of failing to repay debts to a Tennessee

>>> carnival operator

>>> has been settled.

>>> Tony Rodham was accused of failing to repay $107,000 plus interest to

>>> the bankrupt

>>> estate of Edgar Allen Gregory Jr. and his wife, Vonna Jo, both of whom

>>> received a

>>> presidential pardon in 2000.

>>>

>>> The case was scheduled to go to trial on Thursday, but the parties

>>> reached a

>>> settlement agreement, said Rodham attorney Samuel Crocker. The terms

>>> were not

>>> disclosed.

>>>

>>> Rodham had claimed in court documents the money he received from the

>>> Gregorys was for

>>> consulting services, but the trustee for the Gregory estate said it was

>>> a loan.

>>>

>>> The Gregorys received pardons for a bank fraud conviction from President

>>> Clinton

>>> about two years after Rodham became a paid consultant to United Shows of

>>> America, a

>>> carnival business the couple owned.

>>>

>>> Rodham has said he talked to his brother-in-law about the pardon, but he

>>> said

>>> President Clinton made the decision to grant clemency on the merits of

>>> their case.

>>>

>>> After President Clinton left office, the Republican-controlled House

>>> Committee on

>>> Government Reform found that United Shows paid Rodham $240,000 for

>>> undocumented

>>> consulting services and that President Clinton was interested in the

>>> pardons solely

>>> because of his contacts with Rodham.

>>>

>>> Hillary Clinton, a New York senator, has said her brother was not paid

>>> for his help

>>> with the Gregorys' pardon.

>>>

>>> Another brother, Hugh Rodham, was paid more than $400,000 for his

>>> successful efforts

>>> to win pardons for a businessman under investigation for money

>>> laundering and a

>>> commutation for a convicted drug trafficker. He eventually returned the

>>> money at his

>>> sister's request.

>>>

>>> In the closing hours of his presidency, Bill Clinton pardoned 140

>>> people, including

>>> billionaire financier Marc Rich, who fled the United States in 1983

>>> rather than face

>>> charges of tax evasion, fraud and making illegal oil deals with Iran.

>>>

>>> Rich's ex-wife, songwriter Denise Rich, contributed $450,000 to the

>>> Clinton

>>> presidential library project, $1.1 million to the Democratic Party and

>>> at least

>>> $109,000 to Hillary Clinton's bid for the Senate.

>>>

>>> Hillary Clinton, who has been critical of President Bush's decision to

>>> commute the

>>> sentence of former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, said her

>>> husband's

>>> pardons were simply a routine exercise in the use of the pardon power,

>>> and none was

>>> aimed at protecting the Clinton presidency or legacy.

>>

>>

>

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Mike, not interested in a serious conversation, huh? Or is it that you

already know that for every questionable pardon that President Clinton gave

there were three questionable pardons given by president Reagan and that in

only four years president Bush 41 let more questionable criminals be

pardoned than president Clinton did in eight years.

 

G

 

"Mike Flannigan" <MF@yomoashouse.com> wrote in message

news:FFhGi.90983$jH3.29158@bignews6.bellsouth.net...

>

> "Gregg Luze" <Gregg@Strutz.com> wrote in message

> news:13ej4sh3kiougfe@corp.supernews.com...

>> Now, go and explore president Reagan's pardons and president Bush 41's

>> pardons and then you may have something to discuss. But, with your being

>> a partisan Republican, you would not post that information. The truth

>> hurts the mystique that Republicans are trying to build around their

>> ex-presidents.

>

> Well yeah.. Clinton is a crook... but but but but...

>

>

>> "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>> news:7j0je3l8bv8turfjup7jkcvkcomrc416v7@4ax.com...

>>>

>>> Clinton's Brother Settles Debt Suit

>>>

>>> Sep 13 11:43 AM US/Eastern

>>> By TRAVIS LOLLER

>>> Associated Press Writer

>>>

>>> NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - A lawsuit accusing Democratic presidential

>>> candidate Hillary

>>> Rodham Clinton's brother of failing to repay debts to a Tennessee

>>> carnival operator

>>> has been settled.

>>> Tony Rodham was accused of failing to repay $107,000 plus interest to

>>> the bankrupt

>>> estate of Edgar Allen Gregory Jr. and his wife, Vonna Jo, both of whom

>>> received a

>>> presidential pardon in 2000.

>>>

>>> The case was scheduled to go to trial on Thursday, but the parties

>>> reached a

>>> settlement agreement, said Rodham attorney Samuel Crocker. The terms

>>> were not

>>> disclosed.

>>>

>>> Rodham had claimed in court documents the money he received from the

>>> Gregorys was for

>>> consulting services, but the trustee for the Gregory estate said it was

>>> a loan.

>>>

>>> The Gregorys received pardons for a bank fraud conviction from President

>>> Clinton

>>> about two years after Rodham became a paid consultant to United Shows of

>>> America, a

>>> carnival business the couple owned.

>>>

>>> Rodham has said he talked to his brother-in-law about the pardon, but he

>>> said

>>> President Clinton made the decision to grant clemency on the merits of

>>> their case.

>>>

>>> After President Clinton left office, the Republican-controlled House

>>> Committee on

>>> Government Reform found that United Shows paid Rodham $240,000 for

>>> undocumented

>>> consulting services and that President Clinton was interested in the

>>> pardons solely

>>> because of his contacts with Rodham.

>>>

>>> Hillary Clinton, a New York senator, has said her brother was not paid

>>> for his help

>>> with the Gregorys' pardon.

>>>

>>> Another brother, Hugh Rodham, was paid more than $400,000 for his

>>> successful efforts

>>> to win pardons for a businessman under investigation for money

>>> laundering and a

>>> commutation for a convicted drug trafficker. He eventually returned the

>>> money at his

>>> sister's request.

>>>

>>> In the closing hours of his presidency, Bill Clinton pardoned 140

>>> people, including

>>> billionaire financier Marc Rich, who fled the United States in 1983

>>> rather than face

>>> charges of tax evasion, fraud and making illegal oil deals with Iran.

>>>

>>> Rich's ex-wife, songwriter Denise Rich, contributed $450,000 to the

>>> Clinton

>>> presidential library project, $1.1 million to the Democratic Party and

>>> at least

>>> $109,000 to Hillary Clinton's bid for the Senate.

>>>

>>> Hillary Clinton, who has been critical of President Bush's decision to

>>> commute the

>>> sentence of former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, said her

>>> husband's

>>> pardons were simply a routine exercise in the use of the pardon power,

>>> and none was

>>> aimed at protecting the Clinton presidency or legacy.

>>

>>

>

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> "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:46e9a7ed$0$16468$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

>

>> Hillary Clinton.

>>

>> Bill Clinton.

>>

>> Two different people.

>

> Aww.. Running from Bill now are we?

 

Aww.. Think they're the same person now?

 

>

>

>> "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>> news:7j0je3l8bv8turfjup7jkcvkcomrc416v7@4ax.com...

>>>

>>> Clinton's Brother Settles Debt Suit

>>>

>>> Sep 13 11:43 AM US/Eastern

>>> By TRAVIS LOLLER

>>> Associated Press Writer

>>>

>>> NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - A lawsuit accusing Democratic presidential

>>> candidate Hillary

>>> Rodham Clinton's brother of failing to repay debts to a Tennessee

>>> carnival operator

>>> has been settled.

>>> Tony Rodham was accused of failing to repay $107,000 plus interest to

>>> the bankrupt

>>> estate of Edgar Allen Gregory Jr. and his wife, Vonna Jo, both of whom

>>> received a

>>> presidential pardon in 2000.

>>>

>>> The case was scheduled to go to trial on Thursday, but the parties

>>> reached a

>>> settlement agreement, said Rodham attorney Samuel Crocker. The terms

>>> were not

>>> disclosed.

>>>

>>> Rodham had claimed in court documents the money he received from the

>>> Gregorys was for

>>> consulting services, but the trustee for the Gregory estate said it was

>>> a loan.

>>>

>>> The Gregorys received pardons for a bank fraud conviction from President

>>> Clinton

>>> about two years after Rodham became a paid consultant to United Shows of

>>> America, a

>>> carnival business the couple owned.

>>>

>>> Rodham has said he talked to his brother-in-law about the pardon, but he

>>> said

>>> President Clinton made the decision to grant clemency on the merits of

>>> their case.

>>>

>>> After President Clinton left office, the Republican-controlled House

>>> Committee on

>>> Government Reform found that United Shows paid Rodham $240,000 for

>>> undocumented

>>> consulting services and that President Clinton was interested in the

>>> pardons solely

>>> because of his contacts with Rodham.

>>>

>>> Hillary Clinton, a New York senator, has said her brother was not paid

>>> for his help

>>> with the Gregorys' pardon.

>>>

>>> Another brother, Hugh Rodham, was paid more than $400,000 for his

>>> successful efforts

>>> to win pardons for a businessman under investigation for money

>>> laundering and a

>>> commutation for a convicted drug trafficker. He eventually returned the

>>> money at his

>>> sister's request.

>>>

>>> In the closing hours of his presidency, Bill Clinton pardoned 140

>>> people, including

>>> billionaire financier Marc Rich, who fled the United States in 1983

>>> rather than face

>>> charges of tax evasion, fraud and making illegal oil deals with Iran.

>>>

>>> Rich's ex-wife, songwriter Denise Rich, contributed $450,000 to the

>>> Clinton

>>> presidential library project, $1.1 million to the Democratic Party and

>>> at least

>>> $109,000 to Hillary Clinton's bid for the Senate.

>>>

>>> Hillary Clinton, who has been critical of President Bush's decision to

>>> commute the

>>> sentence of former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, said her

>>> husband's

>>> pardons were simply a routine exercise in the use of the pardon power,

>>> and none was

>>> aimed at protecting the Clinton presidency or legacy.

>>

>>

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> "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:46e9a7ed$0$16468$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

>

>> Hillary Clinton.

>>

>> Bill Clinton.

>>

>> Two different people.

>

> Aww.. Running from Bill now are we?

 

Aww.. Think they're the same person now?

 

>

>

>> "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>> news:7j0je3l8bv8turfjup7jkcvkcomrc416v7@4ax.com...

>>>

>>> Clinton's Brother Settles Debt Suit

>>>

>>> Sep 13 11:43 AM US/Eastern

>>> By TRAVIS LOLLER

>>> Associated Press Writer

>>>

>>> NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - A lawsuit accusing Democratic presidential

>>> candidate Hillary

>>> Rodham Clinton's brother of failing to repay debts to a Tennessee

>>> carnival operator

>>> has been settled.

>>> Tony Rodham was accused of failing to repay $107,000 plus interest to

>>> the bankrupt

>>> estate of Edgar Allen Gregory Jr. and his wife, Vonna Jo, both of whom

>>> received a

>>> presidential pardon in 2000.

>>>

>>> The case was scheduled to go to trial on Thursday, but the parties

>>> reached a

>>> settlement agreement, said Rodham attorney Samuel Crocker. The terms

>>> were not

>>> disclosed.

>>>

>>> Rodham had claimed in court documents the money he received from the

>>> Gregorys was for

>>> consulting services, but the trustee for the Gregory estate said it was

>>> a loan.

>>>

>>> The Gregorys received pardons for a bank fraud conviction from President

>>> Clinton

>>> about two years after Rodham became a paid consultant to United Shows of

>>> America, a

>>> carnival business the couple owned.

>>>

>>> Rodham has said he talked to his brother-in-law about the pardon, but he

>>> said

>>> President Clinton made the decision to grant clemency on the merits of

>>> their case.

>>>

>>> After President Clinton left office, the Republican-controlled House

>>> Committee on

>>> Government Reform found that United Shows paid Rodham $240,000 for

>>> undocumented

>>> consulting services and that President Clinton was interested in the

>>> pardons solely

>>> because of his contacts with Rodham.

>>>

>>> Hillary Clinton, a New York senator, has said her brother was not paid

>>> for his help

>>> with the Gregorys' pardon.

>>>

>>> Another brother, Hugh Rodham, was paid more than $400,000 for his

>>> successful efforts

>>> to win pardons for a businessman under investigation for money

>>> laundering and a

>>> commutation for a convicted drug trafficker. He eventually returned the

>>> money at his

>>> sister's request.

>>>

>>> In the closing hours of his presidency, Bill Clinton pardoned 140

>>> people, including

>>> billionaire financier Marc Rich, who fled the United States in 1983

>>> rather than face

>>> charges of tax evasion, fraud and making illegal oil deals with Iran.

>>>

>>> Rich's ex-wife, songwriter Denise Rich, contributed $450,000 to the

>>> Clinton

>>> presidential library project, $1.1 million to the Democratic Party and

>>> at least

>>> $109,000 to Hillary Clinton's bid for the Senate.

>>>

>>> Hillary Clinton, who has been critical of President Bush's decision to

>>> commute the

>>> sentence of former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, said her

>>> husband's

>>> pardons were simply a routine exercise in the use of the pardon power,

>>> and none was

>>> aimed at protecting the Clinton presidency or legacy.

>>

>>

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> Mike, not interested in a serious conversation, huh?

 

Sure. Know of one?

> Or is it that you already know that for every questionable

 

"questionable" when a democrat is doing the asking of course.

> pardon that President Clinton gave there were three questionable

 

Oops.. There's that ambiguous word again..

> pardons given by president Reagan and that in only four years president

> Bush 41 let more questionable

 

Uh oh.. And again.

 

I say Clinton gave more pardons that were questionable. Therefore it is so.

See how it works Lutz? Maybe you should "question" the validity of stupid

arguments the DNC places in your gullible little mind before you parrot them

and make yourself look foolish.

> criminals be pardoned than president Clinton did in eight years.

 

Well yeah.. Clinton is a crook... but but but but...

 

 

 

> "Mike Flannigan" <MF@yomoashouse.com> wrote in message

> news:FFhGi.90983$jH3.29158@bignews6.bellsouth.net...

>>

>> "Gregg Luze" <Gregg@Strutz.com> wrote in message

>> news:13ej4sh3kiougfe@corp.supernews.com...

>>> Now, go and explore president Reagan's pardons and president Bush 41's

>>> pardons and then you may have something to discuss. But, with your

>>> being a partisan Republican, you would not post that information. The

>>> truth hurts the mystique that Republicans are trying to build around

>>> their ex-presidents.

>>

>> Well yeah.. Clinton is a crook... but but but but...

>>

>>

>>> "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>> news:7j0je3l8bv8turfjup7jkcvkcomrc416v7@4ax.com...

>>>>

>>>> Clinton's Brother Settles Debt Suit

>>>>

>>>> Sep 13 11:43 AM US/Eastern

>>>> By TRAVIS LOLLER

>>>> Associated Press Writer

>>>>

>>>> NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - A lawsuit accusing Democratic presidential

>>>> candidate Hillary

>>>> Rodham Clinton's brother of failing to repay debts to a Tennessee

>>>> carnival operator

>>>> has been settled.

>>>> Tony Rodham was accused of failing to repay $107,000 plus interest to

>>>> the bankrupt

>>>> estate of Edgar Allen Gregory Jr. and his wife, Vonna Jo, both of whom

>>>> received a

>>>> presidential pardon in 2000.

>>>>

>>>> The case was scheduled to go to trial on Thursday, but the parties

>>>> reached a

>>>> settlement agreement, said Rodham attorney Samuel Crocker. The terms

>>>> were not

>>>> disclosed.

>>>>

>>>> Rodham had claimed in court documents the money he received from the

>>>> Gregorys was for

>>>> consulting services, but the trustee for the Gregory estate said it was

>>>> a loan.

>>>>

>>>> The Gregorys received pardons for a bank fraud conviction from

>>>> President Clinton

>>>> about two years after Rodham became a paid consultant to United Shows

>>>> of America, a

>>>> carnival business the couple owned.

>>>>

>>>> Rodham has said he talked to his brother-in-law about the pardon, but

>>>> he said

>>>> President Clinton made the decision to grant clemency on the merits of

>>>> their case.

>>>>

>>>> After President Clinton left office, the Republican-controlled House

>>>> Committee on

>>>> Government Reform found that United Shows paid Rodham $240,000 for

>>>> undocumented

>>>> consulting services and that President Clinton was interested in the

>>>> pardons solely

>>>> because of his contacts with Rodham.

>>>>

>>>> Hillary Clinton, a New York senator, has said her brother was not paid

>>>> for his help

>>>> with the Gregorys' pardon.

>>>>

>>>> Another brother, Hugh Rodham, was paid more than $400,000 for his

>>>> successful efforts

>>>> to win pardons for a businessman under investigation for money

>>>> laundering and a

>>>> commutation for a convicted drug trafficker. He eventually returned the

>>>> money at his

>>>> sister's request.

>>>>

>>>> In the closing hours of his presidency, Bill Clinton pardoned 140

>>>> people, including

>>>> billionaire financier Marc Rich, who fled the United States in 1983

>>>> rather than face

>>>> charges of tax evasion, fraud and making illegal oil deals with Iran.

>>>>

>>>> Rich's ex-wife, songwriter Denise Rich, contributed $450,000 to the

>>>> Clinton

>>>> presidential library project, $1.1 million to the Democratic Party and

>>>> at least

>>>> $109,000 to Hillary Clinton's bid for the Senate.

>>>>

>>>> Hillary Clinton, who has been critical of President Bush's decision to

>>>> commute the

>>>> sentence of former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, said her

>>>> husband's

>>>> pardons were simply a routine exercise in the use of the pardon power,

>>>> and none was

>>>> aimed at protecting the Clinton presidency or legacy.

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

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> Mike, not interested in a serious conversation, huh?

 

Sure. Know of one?

> Or is it that you already know that for every questionable

 

"questionable" when a democrat is doing the asking of course.

> pardon that President Clinton gave there were three questionable

 

Oops.. There's that ambiguous word again..

> pardons given by president Reagan and that in only four years president

> Bush 41 let more questionable

 

Uh oh.. And again.

 

I say Clinton gave more pardons that were questionable. Therefore it is so.

See how it works Lutz? Maybe you should "question" the validity of stupid

arguments the DNC places in your gullible little mind before you parrot them

and make yourself look foolish.

> criminals be pardoned than president Clinton did in eight years.

 

Well yeah.. Clinton is a crook... but but but but...

 

 

 

> "Mike Flannigan" <MF@yomoashouse.com> wrote in message

> news:FFhGi.90983$jH3.29158@bignews6.bellsouth.net...

>>

>> "Gregg Luze" <Gregg@Strutz.com> wrote in message

>> news:13ej4sh3kiougfe@corp.supernews.com...

>>> Now, go and explore president Reagan's pardons and president Bush 41's

>>> pardons and then you may have something to discuss. But, with your

>>> being a partisan Republican, you would not post that information. The

>>> truth hurts the mystique that Republicans are trying to build around

>>> their ex-presidents.

>>

>> Well yeah.. Clinton is a crook... but but but but...

>>

>>

>>> "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>> news:7j0je3l8bv8turfjup7jkcvkcomrc416v7@4ax.com...

>>>>

>>>> Clinton's Brother Settles Debt Suit

>>>>

>>>> Sep 13 11:43 AM US/Eastern

>>>> By TRAVIS LOLLER

>>>> Associated Press Writer

>>>>

>>>> NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - A lawsuit accusing Democratic presidential

>>>> candidate Hillary

>>>> Rodham Clinton's brother of failing to repay debts to a Tennessee

>>>> carnival operator

>>>> has been settled.

>>>> Tony Rodham was accused of failing to repay $107,000 plus interest to

>>>> the bankrupt

>>>> estate of Edgar Allen Gregory Jr. and his wife, Vonna Jo, both of whom

>>>> received a

>>>> presidential pardon in 2000.

>>>>

>>>> The case was scheduled to go to trial on Thursday, but the parties

>>>> reached a

>>>> settlement agreement, said Rodham attorney Samuel Crocker. The terms

>>>> were not

>>>> disclosed.

>>>>

>>>> Rodham had claimed in court documents the money he received from the

>>>> Gregorys was for

>>>> consulting services, but the trustee for the Gregory estate said it was

>>>> a loan.

>>>>

>>>> The Gregorys received pardons for a bank fraud conviction from

>>>> President Clinton

>>>> about two years after Rodham became a paid consultant to United Shows

>>>> of America, a

>>>> carnival business the couple owned.

>>>>

>>>> Rodham has said he talked to his brother-in-law about the pardon, but

>>>> he said

>>>> President Clinton made the decision to grant clemency on the merits of

>>>> their case.

>>>>

>>>> After President Clinton left office, the Republican-controlled House

>>>> Committee on

>>>> Government Reform found that United Shows paid Rodham $240,000 for

>>>> undocumented

>>>> consulting services and that President Clinton was interested in the

>>>> pardons solely

>>>> because of his contacts with Rodham.

>>>>

>>>> Hillary Clinton, a New York senator, has said her brother was not paid

>>>> for his help

>>>> with the Gregorys' pardon.

>>>>

>>>> Another brother, Hugh Rodham, was paid more than $400,000 for his

>>>> successful efforts

>>>> to win pardons for a businessman under investigation for money

>>>> laundering and a

>>>> commutation for a convicted drug trafficker. He eventually returned the

>>>> money at his

>>>> sister's request.

>>>>

>>>> In the closing hours of his presidency, Bill Clinton pardoned 140

>>>> people, including

>>>> billionaire financier Marc Rich, who fled the United States in 1983

>>>> rather than face

>>>> charges of tax evasion, fraud and making illegal oil deals with Iran.

>>>>

>>>> Rich's ex-wife, songwriter Denise Rich, contributed $450,000 to the

>>>> Clinton

>>>> presidential library project, $1.1 million to the Democratic Party and

>>>> at least

>>>> $109,000 to Hillary Clinton's bid for the Senate.

>>>>

>>>> Hillary Clinton, who has been critical of President Bush's decision to

>>>> commute the

>>>> sentence of former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, said her

>>>> husband's

>>>> pardons were simply a routine exercise in the use of the pardon power,

>>>> and none was

>>>> aimed at protecting the Clinton presidency or legacy.

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

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> "Howard Dean" <MF@yomoashouse.com> wrote in message

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>>

>> "Gregg Luze" <Gregg@Strutz.com> wrote in message

>> news:13ej4sh3kiougfe@corp.supernews.com...

>>> Now, go and explore president Reagan's pardons and president Bush 41's

>>> pardons and then you may have something to discuss. But, with your

>>> being a partisan Republican, you would not post that information. The

>>> truth hurts the mystique that Republicans are trying to build around

>>> their ex-presidents.

>>

>> Goddamn it, Lutz! How many times have I got to tell you! When someone

>> brings up Clinton you're supposed to say:

>>

>> Clinton Clinton Clinton.. Clinton is not president anymore you obsessed

>> with his dick moron.

>>

>> Now, write it a hundred times so that you don't forget this time.

>>

>> Damn moron..

>>

>> Gheez...

>>

>>

>>> "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>> news:7j0je3l8bv8turfjup7jkcvkcomrc416v7@4ax.com...

>>>>

>>>> Clinton's Brother Settles Debt Suit

>>>>

>>>> Sep 13 11:43 AM US/Eastern

>>>> By TRAVIS LOLLER

>>>> Associated Press Writer

>>>>

>>>> NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - A lawsuit accusing Democratic presidential

>>>> candidate Hillary

>>>> Rodham Clinton's brother of failing to repay debts to a Tennessee

>>>> carnival operator

>>>> has been settled.

>>>> Tony Rodham was accused of failing to repay $107,000 plus interest to

>>>> the bankrupt

>>>> estate of Edgar Allen Gregory Jr. and his wife, Vonna Jo, both of whom

>>>> received a

>>>> presidential pardon in 2000.

>>>>

>>>> The case was scheduled to go to trial on Thursday, but the parties

>>>> reached a

>>>> settlement agreement, said Rodham attorney Samuel Crocker. The terms

>>>> were not

>>>> disclosed.

>>>>

>>>> Rodham had claimed in court documents the money he received from the

>>>> Gregorys was for

>>>> consulting services, but the trustee for the Gregory estate said it was

>>>> a loan.

>>>>

>>>> The Gregorys received pardons for a bank fraud conviction from

>>>> President Clinton

>>>> about two years after Rodham became a paid consultant to United Shows

>>>> of America, a

>>>> carnival business the couple owned.

>>>>

>>>> Rodham has said he talked to his brother-in-law about the pardon, but

>>>> he said

>>>> President Clinton made the decision to grant clemency on the merits of

>>>> their case.

>>>>

>>>> After President Clinton left office, the Republican-controlled House

>>>> Committee on

>>>> Government Reform found that United Shows paid Rodham $240,000 for

>>>> undocumented

>>>> consulting services and that President Clinton was interested in the

>>>> pardons solely

>>>> because of his contacts with Rodham.

>>>>

>>>> Hillary Clinton, a New York senator, has said her brother was not paid

>>>> for his help

>>>> with the Gregorys' pardon.

>>>>

>>>> Another brother, Hugh Rodham, was paid more than $400,000 for his

>>>> successful efforts

>>>> to win pardons for a businessman under investigation for money

>>>> laundering and a

>>>> commutation for a convicted drug trafficker. He eventually returned the

>>>> money at his

>>>> sister's request.

>>>>

>>>> In the closing hours of his presidency, Bill Clinton pardoned 140

>>>> people, including

>>>> billionaire financier Marc Rich, who fled the United States in 1983

>>>> rather than face

>>>> charges of tax evasion, fraud and making illegal oil deals with Iran.

>>>>

>>>> Rich's ex-wife, songwriter Denise Rich, contributed $450,000 to the

>>>> Clinton

>>>> presidential library project, $1.1 million to the Democratic Party and

>>>> at least

>>>> $109,000 to Hillary Clinton's bid for the Senate.

>>>>

>>>> Hillary Clinton, who has been critical of President Bush's decision to

>>>> commute the

>>>> sentence of former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, said her

>>>> husband's

>>>> pardons were simply a routine exercise in the use of the pardon power,

>>>> and none was

>>>> aimed at protecting the Clinton presidency or legacy.

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

> Get it straight to whom you are responding.

 

I'm talking to YOU Lutz. Now get crackin'!

 

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> "Howard Dean" <MF@yomoashouse.com> wrote in message

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>>

>> "Gregg Luze" <Gregg@Strutz.com> wrote in message

>> news:13ej4sh3kiougfe@corp.supernews.com...

>>> Now, go and explore president Reagan's pardons and president Bush 41's

>>> pardons and then you may have something to discuss. But, with your

>>> being a partisan Republican, you would not post that information. The

>>> truth hurts the mystique that Republicans are trying to build around

>>> their ex-presidents.

>>

>> Goddamn it, Lutz! How many times have I got to tell you! When someone

>> brings up Clinton you're supposed to say:

>>

>> Clinton Clinton Clinton.. Clinton is not president anymore you obsessed

>> with his dick moron.

>>

>> Now, write it a hundred times so that you don't forget this time.

>>

>> Damn moron..

>>

>> Gheez...

>>

>>

>>> "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>> news:7j0je3l8bv8turfjup7jkcvkcomrc416v7@4ax.com...

>>>>

>>>> Clinton's Brother Settles Debt Suit

>>>>

>>>> Sep 13 11:43 AM US/Eastern

>>>> By TRAVIS LOLLER

>>>> Associated Press Writer

>>>>

>>>> NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - A lawsuit accusing Democratic presidential

>>>> candidate Hillary

>>>> Rodham Clinton's brother of failing to repay debts to a Tennessee

>>>> carnival operator

>>>> has been settled.

>>>> Tony Rodham was accused of failing to repay $107,000 plus interest to

>>>> the bankrupt

>>>> estate of Edgar Allen Gregory Jr. and his wife, Vonna Jo, both of whom

>>>> received a

>>>> presidential pardon in 2000.

>>>>

>>>> The case was scheduled to go to trial on Thursday, but the parties

>>>> reached a

>>>> settlement agreement, said Rodham attorney Samuel Crocker. The terms

>>>> were not

>>>> disclosed.

>>>>

>>>> Rodham had claimed in court documents the money he received from the

>>>> Gregorys was for

>>>> consulting services, but the trustee for the Gregory estate said it was

>>>> a loan.

>>>>

>>>> The Gregorys received pardons for a bank fraud conviction from

>>>> President Clinton

>>>> about two years after Rodham became a paid consultant to United Shows

>>>> of America, a

>>>> carnival business the couple owned.

>>>>

>>>> Rodham has said he talked to his brother-in-law about the pardon, but

>>>> he said

>>>> President Clinton made the decision to grant clemency on the merits of

>>>> their case.

>>>>

>>>> After President Clinton left office, the Republican-controlled House

>>>> Committee on

>>>> Government Reform found that United Shows paid Rodham $240,000 for

>>>> undocumented

>>>> consulting services and that President Clinton was interested in the

>>>> pardons solely

>>>> because of his contacts with Rodham.

>>>>

>>>> Hillary Clinton, a New York senator, has said her brother was not paid

>>>> for his help

>>>> with the Gregorys' pardon.

>>>>

>>>> Another brother, Hugh Rodham, was paid more than $400,000 for his

>>>> successful efforts

>>>> to win pardons for a businessman under investigation for money

>>>> laundering and a

>>>> commutation for a convicted drug trafficker. He eventually returned the

>>>> money at his

>>>> sister's request.

>>>>

>>>> In the closing hours of his presidency, Bill Clinton pardoned 140

>>>> people, including

>>>> billionaire financier Marc Rich, who fled the United States in 1983

>>>> rather than face

>>>> charges of tax evasion, fraud and making illegal oil deals with Iran.

>>>>

>>>> Rich's ex-wife, songwriter Denise Rich, contributed $450,000 to the

>>>> Clinton

>>>> presidential library project, $1.1 million to the Democratic Party and

>>>> at least

>>>> $109,000 to Hillary Clinton's bid for the Senate.

>>>>

>>>> Hillary Clinton, who has been critical of President Bush's decision to

>>>> commute the

>>>> sentence of former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, said her

>>>> husband's

>>>> pardons were simply a routine exercise in the use of the pardon power,

>>>> and none was

>>>> aimed at protecting the Clinton presidency or legacy.

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

> Get it straight to whom you are responding.

 

I'm talking to YOU Lutz. Now get crackin'!

 

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> Thanks, do your own homework if you are interested in the subject. If you

> are unwilling to look it up yourself, as always happens with you, then you

> are not interested enough in the subject to be taken seriously.

 

Translation: I can't answer the question or back up my own statements.

 

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> "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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>>

>> Slick pardoned relatives, friends, influencial folks that could line his

>> pocket and

>> build his library. Show a listing of the Reagan and Bush, Sr., and I'll

>> be glad to

>> comment....AAC

>>

>>

>>

>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:46:56 -0700, "Gregg Luze" <Gregg@Strutz.com>

>> wrote:

>>

>>>Now, go and explore president Reagan's pardons and president Bush 41's

>>>pardons and then you may have something to discuss. But, with your being

>>>a

>>>partisan Republican, you would not post that information. The truth

>>>hurts

>>>the mystique that Republicans are trying to build around their

>>>ex-presidents.

>>>

>>>G

>

>

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> Thanks, do your own homework if you are interested in the subject. If you

> are unwilling to look it up yourself, as always happens with you, then you

> are not interested enough in the subject to be taken seriously.

 

Translation: I can't answer the question or back up my own statements.

 

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> "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:e00ke3tkam9e1iv44ahr0k8ujh8piago7o@4ax.com...

>>

>> Slick pardoned relatives, friends, influencial folks that could line his

>> pocket and

>> build his library. Show a listing of the Reagan and Bush, Sr., and I'll

>> be glad to

>> comment....AAC

>>

>>

>>

>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:46:56 -0700, "Gregg Luze" <Gregg@Strutz.com>

>> wrote:

>>

>>>Now, go and explore president Reagan's pardons and president Bush 41's

>>>pardons and then you may have something to discuss. But, with your being

>>>a

>>>partisan Republican, you would not post that information. The truth

>>>hurts

>>>the mystique that Republicans are trying to build around their

>>>ex-presidents.

>>>

>>>G

>

>

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> "Mike Flannigan" <MF@yomoashouse.com> wrote in message

> news:sRhGi.90991$jH3.64899@bignews6.bellsouth.net...

>>

>> "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:46e9a7ed$0$16468$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

>>

>>> Hillary Clinton.

>>>

>>> Bill Clinton.

>>>

>>> Two different people.

>>

>> Aww.. Running from Bill now are we?

>

> Aww.. Think they're the same person now?

 

Better run, Roger Dodger!

 

Yeeee! Haaaa!

>>> "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>> news:7j0je3l8bv8turfjup7jkcvkcomrc416v7@4ax.com...

>>>>

>>>> Clinton's Brother Settles Debt Suit

>>>>

>>>> Sep 13 11:43 AM US/Eastern

>>>> By TRAVIS LOLLER

>>>> Associated Press Writer

>>>>

>>>> NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - A lawsuit accusing Democratic presidential

>>>> candidate Hillary

>>>> Rodham Clinton's brother of failing to repay debts to a Tennessee

>>>> carnival operator

>>>> has been settled.

>>>> Tony Rodham was accused of failing to repay $107,000 plus interest to

>>>> the bankrupt

>>>> estate of Edgar Allen Gregory Jr. and his wife, Vonna Jo, both of whom

>>>> received a

>>>> presidential pardon in 2000.

>>>>

>>>> The case was scheduled to go to trial on Thursday, but the parties

>>>> reached a

>>>> settlement agreement, said Rodham attorney Samuel Crocker. The terms

>>>> were not

>>>> disclosed.

>>>>

>>>> Rodham had claimed in court documents the money he received from the

>>>> Gregorys was for

>>>> consulting services, but the trustee for the Gregory estate said it was

>>>> a loan.

>>>>

>>>> The Gregorys received pardons for a bank fraud conviction from

>>>> President Clinton

>>>> about two years after Rodham became a paid consultant to United Shows

>>>> of America, a

>>>> carnival business the couple owned.

>>>>

>>>> Rodham has said he talked to his brother-in-law about the pardon, but

>>>> he said

>>>> President Clinton made the decision to grant clemency on the merits of

>>>> their case.

>>>>

>>>> After President Clinton left office, the Republican-controlled House

>>>> Committee on

>>>> Government Reform found that United Shows paid Rodham $240,000 for

>>>> undocumented

>>>> consulting services and that President Clinton was interested in the

>>>> pardons solely

>>>> because of his contacts with Rodham.

>>>>

>>>> Hillary Clinton, a New York senator, has said her brother was not paid

>>>> for his help

>>>> with the Gregorys' pardon.

>>>>

>>>> Another brother, Hugh Rodham, was paid more than $400,000 for his

>>>> successful efforts

>>>> to win pardons for a businessman under investigation for money

>>>> laundering and a

>>>> commutation for a convicted drug trafficker. He eventually returned the

>>>> money at his

>>>> sister's request.

>>>>

>>>> In the closing hours of his presidency, Bill Clinton pardoned 140

>>>> people, including

>>>> billionaire financier Marc Rich, who fled the United States in 1983

>>>> rather than face

>>>> charges of tax evasion, fraud and making illegal oil deals with Iran.

>>>>

>>>> Rich's ex-wife, songwriter Denise Rich, contributed $450,000 to the

>>>> Clinton

>>>> presidential library project, $1.1 million to the Democratic Party and

>>>> at least

>>>> $109,000 to Hillary Clinton's bid for the Senate.

>>>>

>>>> Hillary Clinton, who has been critical of President Bush's decision to

>>>> commute the

>>>> sentence of former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, said her

>>>> husband's

>>>> pardons were simply a routine exercise in the use of the pardon power,

>>>> and none was

>>>> aimed at protecting the Clinton presidency or legacy.

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

>

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> "Mike Flannigan" <MF@yomoashouse.com> wrote in message

> news:sRhGi.90991$jH3.64899@bignews6.bellsouth.net...

>>

>> "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:46e9a7ed$0$16468$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

>>

>>> Hillary Clinton.

>>>

>>> Bill Clinton.

>>>

>>> Two different people.

>>

>> Aww.. Running from Bill now are we?

>

> Aww.. Think they're the same person now?

 

Better run, Roger Dodger!

 

Yeeee! Haaaa!

>>> "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>> news:7j0je3l8bv8turfjup7jkcvkcomrc416v7@4ax.com...

>>>>

>>>> Clinton's Brother Settles Debt Suit

>>>>

>>>> Sep 13 11:43 AM US/Eastern

>>>> By TRAVIS LOLLER

>>>> Associated Press Writer

>>>>

>>>> NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - A lawsuit accusing Democratic presidential

>>>> candidate Hillary

>>>> Rodham Clinton's brother of failing to repay debts to a Tennessee

>>>> carnival operator

>>>> has been settled.

>>>> Tony Rodham was accused of failing to repay $107,000 plus interest to

>>>> the bankrupt

>>>> estate of Edgar Allen Gregory Jr. and his wife, Vonna Jo, both of whom

>>>> received a

>>>> presidential pardon in 2000.

>>>>

>>>> The case was scheduled to go to trial on Thursday, but the parties

>>>> reached a

>>>> settlement agreement, said Rodham attorney Samuel Crocker. The terms

>>>> were not

>>>> disclosed.

>>>>

>>>> Rodham had claimed in court documents the money he received from the

>>>> Gregorys was for

>>>> consulting services, but the trustee for the Gregory estate said it was

>>>> a loan.

>>>>

>>>> The Gregorys received pardons for a bank fraud conviction from

>>>> President Clinton

>>>> about two years after Rodham became a paid consultant to United Shows

>>>> of America, a

>>>> carnival business the couple owned.

>>>>

>>>> Rodham has said he talked to his brother-in-law about the pardon, but

>>>> he said

>>>> President Clinton made the decision to grant clemency on the merits of

>>>> their case.

>>>>

>>>> After President Clinton left office, the Republican-controlled House

>>>> Committee on

>>>> Government Reform found that United Shows paid Rodham $240,000 for

>>>> undocumented

>>>> consulting services and that President Clinton was interested in the

>>>> pardons solely

>>>> because of his contacts with Rodham.

>>>>

>>>> Hillary Clinton, a New York senator, has said her brother was not paid

>>>> for his help

>>>> with the Gregorys' pardon.

>>>>

>>>> Another brother, Hugh Rodham, was paid more than $400,000 for his

>>>> successful efforts

>>>> to win pardons for a businessman under investigation for money

>>>> laundering and a

>>>> commutation for a convicted drug trafficker. He eventually returned the

>>>> money at his

>>>> sister's request.

>>>>

>>>> In the closing hours of his presidency, Bill Clinton pardoned 140

>>>> people, including

>>>> billionaire financier Marc Rich, who fled the United States in 1983

>>>> rather than face

>>>> charges of tax evasion, fraud and making illegal oil deals with Iran.

>>>>

>>>> Rich's ex-wife, songwriter Denise Rich, contributed $450,000 to the

>>>> Clinton

>>>> presidential library project, $1.1 million to the Democratic Party and

>>>> at least

>>>> $109,000 to Hillary Clinton's bid for the Senate.

>>>>

>>>> Hillary Clinton, who has been critical of President Bush's decision to

>>>> commute the

>>>> sentence of former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, said her

>>>> husband's

>>>> pardons were simply a routine exercise in the use of the pardon power,

>>>> and none was

>>>> aimed at protecting the Clinton presidency or legacy.

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

>

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I am still not going to do your homework for you. If you were serious you

would take the time to look it up.

 

G

 

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>

> "Gregg Luze" <Gregg@Strutz.com> wrote in message

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>> Mike, not interested in a serious conversation, huh?

>

> Sure. Know of one?

>

>> Or is it that you already know that for every questionable

>

> "questionable" when a democrat is doing the asking of course.

>

>> pardon that President Clinton gave there were three questionable

>

> Oops.. There's that ambiguous word again..

>

>> pardons given by president Reagan and that in only four years president

>> Bush 41 let more questionable

>

> Uh oh.. And again.

>

> I say Clinton gave more pardons that were questionable. Therefore it is

> so. See how it works Lutz? Maybe you should "question" the validity of

> stupid arguments the DNC places in your gullible little mind before you

> parrot them and make yourself look foolish.

>

>> criminals be pardoned than president Clinton did in eight years.

>

> Well yeah.. Clinton is a crook... but but but but...

>

>

>

>

>> "Mike Flannigan" <MF@yomoashouse.com> wrote in message

>> news:FFhGi.90983$jH3.29158@bignews6.bellsouth.net...

>>>

>>> "Gregg Luze" <Gregg@Strutz.com> wrote in message

>>> news:13ej4sh3kiougfe@corp.supernews.com...

>>>> Now, go and explore president Reagan's pardons and president Bush 41's

>>>> pardons and then you may have something to discuss. But, with your

>>>> being a partisan Republican, you would not post that information. The

>>>> truth hurts the mystique that Republicans are trying to build around

>>>> their ex-presidents.

>>>

>>> Well yeah.. Clinton is a crook... but but but but...

>>>

>>>

>>>> "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:7j0je3l8bv8turfjup7jkcvkcomrc416v7@4ax.com...

>>>>>

>>>>> Clinton's Brother Settles Debt Suit

>>>>>

>>>>> Sep 13 11:43 AM US/Eastern

>>>>> By TRAVIS LOLLER

>>>>> Associated Press Writer

>>>>>

>>>>> NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - A lawsuit accusing Democratic presidential

>>>>> candidate Hillary

>>>>> Rodham Clinton's brother of failing to repay debts to a Tennessee

>>>>> carnival operator

>>>>> has been settled.

>>>>> Tony Rodham was accused of failing to repay $107,000 plus interest to

>>>>> the bankrupt

>>>>> estate of Edgar Allen Gregory Jr. and his wife, Vonna Jo, both of whom

>>>>> received a

>>>>> presidential pardon in 2000.

>>>>>

>>>>> The case was scheduled to go to trial on Thursday, but the parties

>>>>> reached a

>>>>> settlement agreement, said Rodham attorney Samuel Crocker. The terms

>>>>> were not

>>>>> disclosed.

>>>>>

>>>>> Rodham had claimed in court documents the money he received from the

>>>>> Gregorys was for

>>>>> consulting services, but the trustee for the Gregory estate said it

>>>>> was a loan.

>>>>>

>>>>> The Gregorys received pardons for a bank fraud conviction from

>>>>> President Clinton

>>>>> about two years after Rodham became a paid consultant to United Shows

>>>>> of America, a

>>>>> carnival business the couple owned.

>>>>>

>>>>> Rodham has said he talked to his brother-in-law about the pardon, but

>>>>> he said

>>>>> President Clinton made the decision to grant clemency on the merits of

>>>>> their case.

>>>>>

>>>>> After President Clinton left office, the Republican-controlled House

>>>>> Committee on

>>>>> Government Reform found that United Shows paid Rodham $240,000 for

>>>>> undocumented

>>>>> consulting services and that President Clinton was interested in the

>>>>> pardons solely

>>>>> because of his contacts with Rodham.

>>>>>

>>>>> Hillary Clinton, a New York senator, has said her brother was not paid

>>>>> for his help

>>>>> with the Gregorys' pardon.

>>>>>

>>>>> Another brother, Hugh Rodham, was paid more than $400,000 for his

>>>>> successful efforts

>>>>> to win pardons for a businessman under investigation for money

>>>>> laundering and a

>>>>> commutation for a convicted drug trafficker. He eventually returned

>>>>> the money at his

>>>>> sister's request.

>>>>>

>>>>> In the closing hours of his presidency, Bill Clinton pardoned 140

>>>>> people, including

>>>>> billionaire financier Marc Rich, who fled the United States in 1983

>>>>> rather than face

>>>>> charges of tax evasion, fraud and making illegal oil deals with Iran.

>>>>>

>>>>> Rich's ex-wife, songwriter Denise Rich, contributed $450,000 to the

>>>>> Clinton

>>>>> presidential library project, $1.1 million to the Democratic Party and

>>>>> at least

>>>>> $109,000 to Hillary Clinton's bid for the Senate.

>>>>>

>>>>> Hillary Clinton, who has been critical of President Bush's decision to

>>>>> commute the

>>>>> sentence of former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, said her

>>>>> husband's

>>>>> pardons were simply a routine exercise in the use of the pardon power,

>>>>> and none was

>>>>> aimed at protecting the Clinton presidency or legacy.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

>

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