Guest what goes around -------> Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/16/AR2007061600130.html Duke Prosecutor Nifong Disbarred By Sylvia Adcock Special to The Washington Post Saturday, June 16, 2007; 5:48 PM RALEIGH, N.C., June 16 -- Hours after he was found guilty of ethics charges in his prosecution of three Duke lacrosse players falsely accused of rape, Durham County District Attorney Michael B. Nifong on Saturday surrendered his law license to the state bar and said he would waive his right to appeal the convictions. Nifong had been fighting to save his law license, but his lawyers apparently changed their minds late Saturday during the fifth day of an ethics hearing. A three-person North Carolina State Bar disciplinary panel said the evidence showed Nifong had withheld crucial information from the students' defense attorneys and engaged in "dishonesty, fraud, deciept or misrepresentation" during his prosecution of the case. The panelists were about to announce whether Nifong should be disbarred when his attorney announced that Nifong had decided disbarment was the appropriate punishment. Nifong had already said he would quit his Durham position. It marks the first time in North Carolina a sitting district attorney has been disbarred. Joseph Cheshire V, who represents David Evans of Bethesda, said that he thinks Nifong saw where the case against him was headed. "It's kind of like the man who is about to be executed manages to tie a bed sheet to the bed and hang himself," he said. "He manages to go out with some sense of control over his own destiny." The bar panel said his comments about the case -- which included referring to the Duke lacrosse team as "hooligans" -- heightened public condemnation of the accused, a violation of ethical rules. Earlier, the families of the three exonerated players fought back tears as they relived the moments when they learned their sons would be indicted in connection with allegations that a stripper was raped and beaten at a March 2006 party thrown by the lacrosse team. "He let out a cry I'll never forget," said Mary Ellen Finnerty, mother of Collin Finnerty. "He howled. He collapsed on a bed. We all cried{lcub}hellip{rcub}.No one can give us these 14 months back." The three players -- Finnerty of Garden City, N.Y., Evans, and Reade Seligmann of Essex Fells, N.J. -- were charged with rape and sexual assault last spring. In January, Nifong turned the case over to the state attorney general's office because of charges filed against him by the bar. The attorney general investigated the case and found the accuser's version of events unreliable and said the young men were innocent. David Evans's father, also named David Evans, testified Friday that his son learned he would be indicted days before graduation. After the indictment, a job offer at J.P. Morgan was rescinded, with the firm saying it couldn't hire someone facing a felony charge. As his father spoke, David Evans held his mother's hand as she wiped away tears. An attorney for the state bar asked Evans about his reaction to Nifong's apology Friday when he said he was sorry for any pain he had caused the families. "It resonated with me that he said he wanted his son to be proud of him," Evans said. But he said he was upset with Nifong's comments under questioning yesterday in which he said he still believed "something happened" in the bathroom of that house that night. "I have a hard time with that. I don't accept it." Nifong showed no reaction. While Nifong's lawyers argued earlier that Nifong didn't knowingly violate the rules, state bar prosecutor Douglas Brocker argued that as a 28-year prosecutor, Nifong should have known all the rules of professional conduct. Rae Evans, mother of David Evans, said the families do not take any pleasure from watching the proceedings. "I don't think our families will take any joy from the inevitable decision from the bar," she said during an earlier break. "It's not about joy. It's collateral damage. To the lacrosse family, to our families, to [the accuser's] family, to the Nifong family," she said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tough Tonto Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 "what goes around ------->" <youguessedit@comes.around.yep> garbled in message news:ffp873tfn9bdn4hstm2s7r1fakhbb01tcr@news... > > Duke Prosecutor Nifong Disbarred Yeah, but can he explain why he has a Chinese last name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Banshu.Info@gmail.com Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 On Jun 16, 5:53 pm, "Tough Tonto" <C...@subby.com> wrote: > "what goes around ------->" <youguesse...@comes.around.yep> garbled in > messagenews:ffp873tfn9bdn4hstm2s7r1fakhbb01tcr@news... > > > > > Duke Prosecutor Nifong Disbarred > > Yeah, but can he explain why he has a Chinese last name? Good question. Does he have a Chinese father? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest winnard Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 "what goes around ------->" <youguessedit@comes.around.yep> wrote in message news:ffp873tfn9bdn4hstm2s7r1fakhbb01tcr@news... > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/16/AR2007061600130.html > > Duke Prosecutor Nifong Disbarred > What's incredible about this story....lawyers working on Saturday. winnard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest robbielynn Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 On Jun 16, 7:20 pm, "winnard" <8tra...@cox.net> wrote: > "what goes around ------->" <youguesse...@comes.around.yep> wrote in messagenews:ffp873tfn9bdn4hstm2s7r1fakhbb01tcr@news... > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/16/AR200... > > > > > Duke Prosecutor Nifong Disbarred > > What's incredible about this story....lawyers working on Saturday. > > winnard Funny. It's also amazing that somehting finally wiped that smirky smile off Nifong's face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Banshu.Info@gmail.com Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 On Jun 16, 6:23 pm, robbielynn <robbielynnw...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 16, 7:20 pm, "winnard" <8tra...@cox.net> wrote: > > > "what goes around ------->" <youguesse...@comes.around.yep> wrote in messagenews:ffp873tfn9bdn4hstm2s7r1fakhbb01tcr@news... > > >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/16/AR200... > > > > Duke Prosecutor Nifong Disbarred > > > What's incredible about this story....lawyers working on Saturday. > > > winnard > > Funny. It's also amazing that somehting finally > wiped that smirky smile off Nifong's face. Oh, he will pay. Believe me. He will pay dearly with the upcoming civil lawsuit against him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hunter Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 On Jun 16, 6:53 pm, "Tough Tonto" <C...@subby.com> wrote: > "what goes around ------->" <youguesse...@comes.around.yep> garbled in > messagenews:ffp873tfn9bdn4hstm2s7r1fakhbb01tcr@news... > > > > > Duke Prosecutor Nifong Disbarred > > Yeah, but can he explain why he has a Chinese last name? ---- Who said it was Chinese? Nifong is Scottish: _____ Nifong Family Crest and Name History: Origin Displayed: Scottish Where did the Scottish Nifong family come from? What is the Scottish coat of arms/family crest? When did the Nifong family first arrive in the United States? Where did the various branches of the family go? What is the history of the family name? The name Nifong was first used by the Strathclyde Britons. As a surname, Nifong was originally the Gaelic patronymic "Mac Naoimhin," which is derived from the word "naomh," meaning saint. Spelling and translation were hardly exact sciences in Medieval Scotland. Sound, rather than any set of rules, was the basis for spellings, so one name was often spelled different ways even within a single document. Spelling variations are thus an extremely common occurrence in Medieval Scottish names. Nifong has been spelled Niven, Nevin, Nevins, Nivens, Navin, Newin, Nevane, Niffen, Nifen, Niving, Neving, Newing, Neiven, Nivine, Nevison, Niveson and many more. First found in Ayrshire where they were seated from very ancient times, long before the Norman Conquest in 1066. http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/nifong-family-crest.htm In short "Nifong" is an anglicized mispronunciation of an ancient Gaelic name that derived from a Gaelic word meaning "saint" ironically enough. --->Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lein Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 On Jun 16, 3:43 pm, "what goes around ------->" <youguesse...@comes.around.yep> wrote: > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/16/AR200... > > Duke Prosecutor Nifong Disbarred > > By Sylvia Adcock > Special to The Washington Post > Saturday, June 16, 2007; 5:48 PM > > RALEIGH, N.C., June 16 -- Hours after he was found guilty of ethics > charges in his prosecution of three Duke lacrosse players falsely > accused of rape, Durham County District Attorney Michael B. Nifong on > Saturday surrendered his law license to the state bar and said he > would waive his right to appeal the convictions. > > Nifong had been fighting to save his law license, but his lawyers > apparently changed their minds late Saturday during the fifth day of > an ethics hearing. > > A three-person North Carolina State Bar disciplinary panel said the > evidence showed Nifong had withheld crucial information from the > students' defense attorneys and engaged in "dishonesty, fraud, deciept > or misrepresentation" during his prosecution of the case. The > panelists were about to announce whether Nifong should be disbarred > when his attorney announced that Nifong had decided disbarment was the > appropriate punishment. Nifong had already said he would quit his > Durham position. > > It marks the first time in North Carolina a sitting district attorney > has been disbarred. > > Joseph Cheshire V, who represents David Evans of Bethesda, said that > he thinks Nifong saw where the case against him was headed. "It's kind > of like the man who is about to be executed manages to tie a bed sheet > to the bed and hang himself," he said. "He manages to go out with some > sense of control over his own destiny." > > The bar panel said his comments about the case -- which included > referring to the Duke lacrosse team as "hooligans" -- heightened > public condemnation of the accused, a violation of ethical rules. > > Earlier, the families of the three exonerated players fought back > tears as they relived the moments when they learned their sons would > be indicted in connection with allegations that a stripper was raped > and beaten at a March 2006 party thrown by the lacrosse team. > > "He let out a cry I'll never forget," said Mary Ellen Finnerty, mother > of Collin Finnerty. "He howled. He collapsed on a bed. We all > cried{lcub}hellip{rcub}.No one can give us these 14 months back." > > The three players -- Finnerty of Garden City, N.Y., Evans, and Reade > Seligmann of Essex Fells, N.J. -- were charged with rape and sexual > assault last spring. In January, Nifong turned the case over to the > state attorney general's office because of charges filed against him > by the bar. The attorney general investigated the case and found the > accuser's version of events unreliable and said the young men were > innocent. > > David Evans's father, also named David Evans, testified Friday that > his son learned he would be indicted days before graduation. After the > indictment, a job offer at J.P. Morgan was rescinded, with the firm > saying it couldn't hire someone facing a felony charge. As his father > spoke, David Evans held his mother's hand as she wiped away tears. > > An attorney for the state bar asked Evans about his reaction to > Nifong's apology Friday when he said he was sorry for any pain he had > caused the families. "It resonated with me that he said he wanted his > son to be proud of him," Evans said. > > But he said he was upset with Nifong's comments under questioning > yesterday in which he said he still believed "something happened" in > the bathroom of that house that night. "I have a hard time with that. > I don't accept it." Nifong showed no reaction. > > While Nifong's lawyers argued earlier that Nifong didn't knowingly > violate the rules, state bar prosecutor Douglas Brocker argued that as > a 28-year prosecutor, Nifong should have known all the rules of > professional conduct. > > Rae Evans, mother of David Evans, said the families do not take any > pleasure from watching the proceedings. > > "I don't think our families will take any joy from the inevitable > decision from the bar," she said during an earlier break. "It's not > about joy. It's collateral damage. To the lacrosse family, to our > families, to [the accuser's] family, to the Nifong family," she said. Now that he's disbarred, when will he be punished? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hunter Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 On Jun 17, 3:33 am, Sam Daniels <n...@spam.com> wrote: > He's been disbarred in North Carolina, but he still has the rest of > the states to practice in. ---- Perhaps, but only as, ironically, as a defense attorney at best and I doubt he could get that. In any case, what jurisdiction would hire him as a prosecutor, setting aside the fact he is most likely not versed in any other state laws. --->Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Michael Snyder Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 "Hunter" <buffhunter@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:1182063882.048818.17780@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 17, 3:33 am, Sam Daniels <n...@spam.com> wrote: > > He's been disbarred in North Carolina, but he still has the rest of > > the states to practice in. > ---- > Perhaps, but only as, ironically, as a defense attorney at best and I > doubt he could get that. In any case, what jurisdiction would hire him > as a prosecutor, setting aside the fact he is most likely not versed > in any other state laws. Poor guy's a scape goat -- as long as we focus on him, it's hoped we'll forget about the whole false rape accusation issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sam Daniels Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 He's been disbarred in North Carolina, but he still has the rest of the states to practice in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glen Heiman Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 "Hunter" <buffhunter@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:1182058973.648622.209270@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 16, 6:53 pm, "Tough Tonto" <C...@subby.com> wrote: > > "what goes around ------->" <youguesse...@comes.around.yep> garbled in > > messagenews:ffp873tfn9bdn4hstm2s7r1fakhbb01tcr@news... > > > > > > > > > Duke Prosecutor Nifong Disbarred > > > > Yeah, but can he explain why he has a Chinese last name? > ---- > Who said it was Chinese? Nifong is Scottish: > _____ > > Nifong Family Crest and Name History: > > Origin Displayed: Scottish > > Where did the Scottish Nifong family come from? What is the Scottish > coat of arms/family crest? When did the Nifong family first arrive in > the United States? Where did the various branches of the family go? > What is the history of the family name? > > The name Nifong was first used by the Strathclyde Britons. As a > surname, Nifong was originally the Gaelic patronymic "Mac Naoimhin," > which is derived from the word "naomh," meaning saint. > > Spelling and translation were hardly exact sciences in Medieval > Scotland. Sound, rather than any set of rules, was the basis for > spellings, so one name was often spelled different ways even within a > single document. Spelling variations are thus an extremely common > occurrence in Medieval Scottish names. Nifong has been spelled Niven, > Nevin, Nevins, Nivens, Navin, Newin, Nevane, Niffen, Nifen, Niving, > Neving, Newing, Neiven, Nivine, Nevison, Niveson and many more. > > First found in Ayrshire where they were seated from very ancient > times, long before the Norman Conquest in 1066. > > http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/nifong-family-crest.htm > > > In short "Nifong" is an anglicized mispronunciation of an ancient > Gaelic name that derived from a Gaelic word meaning "saint" > ironically enough. So then, when did the Chinese pollinate Scotland? Heiman > > --->Hunter > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest krp Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 "Hunter" <buffhunter@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:1182063882.048818.17780@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 17, 3:33 am, Sam Daniels <n...@spam.com> wrote: >> He's been disbarred in North Carolina, but he still has the rest of >> the states to practice in. > ---- > Perhaps, but only as, ironically, as a defense attorney at best and I > doubt he could get that. In any case, what jurisdiction would hire him > as a prosecutor, setting aside the fact he is most likely not versed > in any other state laws. Sorry he can't be ANY kind of lawyer. However Walmart needs greeters!' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest buffhunter@my-deja.com Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 On Jun 17, 3:58 am, "Glen Heiman" <Dak...@cox.net> wrote: > "Hunter" <buffhun...@my-deja.com> wrote in message > > news:1182058973.648622.209270@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On Jun 16, 6:53 pm, "Tough Tonto" <C...@subby.com> wrote: > > > "what goes around ------->" <youguesse...@comes.around.yep> garbled in > > > messagenews:ffp873tfn9bdn4hstm2s7r1fakhbb01tcr@news... > > > > > Duke Prosecutor Nifong Disbarred > > > > Yeah, but can he explain why he has a Chinese last name? > > ---- > > Who said it was Chinese? Nifong is Scottish: > > _____ > > > Nifong Family Crest and Name History: > > > Origin Displayed: Scottish > > > Where did the Scottish Nifong family come from? What is the Scottish > > coat of arms/family crest? When did the Nifong family first arrive in > > the United States? Where did the various branches of the family go? > > What is the history of the family name? > > > The name Nifong was first used by the Strathclyde Britons. As a > > surname, Nifong was originally the Gaelic patronymic "Mac Naoimhin," > > which is derived from the word "naomh," meaning saint. > > > Spelling and translation were hardly exact sciences in Medieval > > Scotland. Sound, rather than any set of rules, was the basis for > > spellings, so one name was often spelled different ways even within a > > single document. Spelling variations are thus an extremely common > > occurrence in Medieval Scottish names. Nifong has been spelled Niven, > > Nevin, Nevins, Nivens, Navin, Newin, Nevane, Niffen, Nifen, Niving, > > Neving, Newing, Neiven, Nivine, Nevison, Niveson and many more. > > > First found in Ayrshire where they were seated from very ancient > > times, long before the Norman Conquest in 1066. > > >http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/nifong-family-crest.htm > > > > > In short "Nifong" is an anglicized mispronunciation of an ancient > > Gaelic name that derived from a Gaelic word meaning "saint" > > ironically enough. > > So then, when did the Chinese pollinate Scotland? > > Heiman ---- I assume you're joking, at least I hope so. -->Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest buffhunter@my-deja.com Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 On Jun 17, 4:09 am, " krp" <web24...@verizon.net> wrote: > "Hunter" <buffhun...@my-deja.com> wrote in message > > news:1182063882.048818.17780@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > > > On Jun 17, 3:33 am, Sam Daniels <n...@spam.com> wrote: > >> He's been disbarred in North Carolina, but he still has the rest of > >> the states to practice in. > > ---- > > Perhaps, but only as, ironically, as a defense attorney at best and I > > doubt he could get that. In any case, what jurisdiction would hire him > > as a prosecutor, setting aside the fact he is most likely not versed > > in any other state laws. > > Sorry he can't be ANY kind of lawyer. However Walmart needs greeters!' ---- This is just a thought experiment, I have to check, but one state's bar association doesn't have to honor the decision of another state's bar association. I think his disbarment only applies to the North Carolina bar. If as an example he was also part of the New York bar he could still practice in New York state. So in theory Nifong could practice someplace else if he passes that state's bar exam. In any case I believe it is moot. Who would hire him even if they could? ---->Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pneuma Pelosi Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 01:46:17 -0700, "buffhunter@my-deja.com" <buffhunter@my-deja.com> wrote: >On Jun 17, 3:58 am, "Glen Heiman" <Dak...@cox.net> wrote: >> "Hunter" <buffhun...@my-deja.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1182058973.648622.209270@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Jun 16, 6:53 pm, "Tough Tonto" <C...@subby.com> wrote: >> > > "what goes around ------->" <youguesse...@comes.around.yep> garbled in >> > > messagenews:ffp873tfn9bdn4hstm2s7r1fakhbb01tcr@news... >> >> > > > Duke Prosecutor Nifong Disbarred >> >> > > Yeah, but can he explain why he has a Chinese last name? >> > ---- >> > Who said it was Chinese? Nifong is Scottish: >> > _____ >> >> > Nifong Family Crest and Name History: >> >> > Origin Displayed: Scottish >> >> > Where did the Scottish Nifong family come from? What is the Scottish >> > coat of arms/family crest? When did the Nifong family first arrive in >> > the United States? Where did the various branches of the family go? >> > What is the history of the family name? >> >> > The name Nifong was first used by the Strathclyde Britons. As a >> > surname, Nifong was originally the Gaelic patronymic "Mac Naoimhin," >> > which is derived from the word "naomh," meaning saint. >> >> > Spelling and translation were hardly exact sciences in Medieval >> > Scotland. Sound, rather than any set of rules, was the basis for >> > spellings, so one name was often spelled different ways even within a >> > single document. Spelling variations are thus an extremely common >> > occurrence in Medieval Scottish names. Nifong has been spelled Niven, >> > Nevin, Nevins, Nivens, Navin, Newin, Nevane, Niffen, Nifen, Niving, >> > Neving, Newing, Neiven, Nivine, Nevison, Niveson and many more. >> >> > First found in Ayrshire where they were seated from very ancient >> > times, long before the Norman Conquest in 1066. >> >> >http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/nifong-family-crest.htm >> >> > >> > In short "Nifong" is an anglicized mispronunciation of an ancient >> > Gaelic name that derived from a Gaelic word meaning "saint" >> > ironically enough. >> >> So then, when did the Chinese pollinate Scotland? >> >> Heiman >---- >I assume you're joking, at least I hope so. > >-->Hunter > hmm the Herbert W. Armstrong Worldwide Church of God believes that the British Royal family descended from King David of Israel. So I guess the Chinese could of populated the British Isles and then King David's... Oh never mind. ;-) -- Free online user encyclopedia http://wikipedia.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dd Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:20:25 -0700, Banshu.Info@gmail.com wrote: >On Jun 16, 6:23 pm, robbielynn <robbielynnw...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> On Jun 16, 7:20 pm, "winnard" <8tra...@cox.net> wrote: >> >> > "what goes around ------->" <youguesse...@comes.around.yep> wrote in messagenews:ffp873tfn9bdn4hstm2s7r1fakhbb01tcr@news... >> >> >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/16/AR200... >> >> > > Duke Prosecutor Nifong Disbarred >> >> > What's incredible about this story....lawyers working on Saturday. >> >> > winnard >> >> Funny. It's also amazing that somehting finally >> wiped that smirky smile off Nifong's face. > >Oh, he will pay. Believe me. He will pay dearly with the upcoming >civil lawsuit against him. don't believe you. Criminal charges possible, but he's probably immune to civil lawsuits as an employee of the state. I think state will make some reparation, and they should.....this could have and should have been stopped LONG ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 "what goes around ------->" <youguessedit@comes.around.yep> wrote in message news:ffp873tfn9bdn4hstm2s7r1fakhbb01tcr@news... > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/16/AR2007061600130.html > > Duke Prosecutor Nifong Disbarred Yet the dealth penalty survives. > > By Sylvia Adcock > Special to The Washington Post > Saturday, June 16, 2007; 5:48 PM > > > RALEIGH, N.C., June 16 -- Hours after he was found guilty of ethics > charges in his prosecution of three Duke lacrosse players falsely > accused of rape, Durham County District Attorney Michael B. Nifong on > Saturday surrendered his law license to the state bar and said he > would waive his right to appeal the convictions. > > Nifong had been fighting to save his law license, but his lawyers > apparently changed their minds late Saturday during the fifth day of > an ethics hearing. > > A three-person North Carolina State Bar disciplinary panel said the > evidence showed Nifong had withheld crucial information from the > students' defense attorneys and engaged in "dishonesty, fraud, deciept > or misrepresentation" during his prosecution of the case. The > panelists were about to announce whether Nifong should be disbarred > when his attorney announced that Nifong had decided disbarment was the > appropriate punishment. Nifong had already said he would quit his > Durham position. > > It marks the first time in North Carolina a sitting district attorney > has been disbarred. > > Joseph Cheshire V, who represents David Evans of Bethesda, said that > he thinks Nifong saw where the case against him was headed. "It's kind > of like the man who is about to be executed manages to tie a bed sheet > to the bed and hang himself," he said. "He manages to go out with some > sense of control over his own destiny." > > The bar panel said his comments about the case -- which included > referring to the Duke lacrosse team as "hooligans" -- heightened > public condemnation of the accused, a violation of ethical rules. > > Earlier, the families of the three exonerated players fought back > tears as they relived the moments when they learned their sons would > be indicted in connection with allegations that a stripper was raped > and beaten at a March 2006 party thrown by the lacrosse team. > > "He let out a cry I'll never forget," said Mary Ellen Finnerty, mother > of Collin Finnerty. "He howled. He collapsed on a bed. We all > cried{lcub}hellip{rcub}.No one can give us these 14 months back." > > The three players -- Finnerty of Garden City, N.Y., Evans, and Reade > Seligmann of Essex Fells, N.J. -- were charged with rape and sexual > assault last spring. In January, Nifong turned the case over to the > state attorney general's office because of charges filed against him > by the bar. The attorney general investigated the case and found the > accuser's version of events unreliable and said the young men were > innocent. > > David Evans's father, also named David Evans, testified Friday that > his son learned he would be indicted days before graduation. After the > indictment, a job offer at J.P. Morgan was rescinded, with the firm > saying it couldn't hire someone facing a felony charge. As his father > spoke, David Evans held his mother's hand as she wiped away tears. > > An attorney for the state bar asked Evans about his reaction to > Nifong's apology Friday when he said he was sorry for any pain he had > caused the families. "It resonated with me that he said he wanted his > son to be proud of him," Evans said. > > But he said he was upset with Nifong's comments under questioning > yesterday in which he said he still believed "something happened" in > the bathroom of that house that night. "I have a hard time with that. > I don't accept it." Nifong showed no reaction. > > While Nifong's lawyers argued earlier that Nifong didn't knowingly > violate the rules, state bar prosecutor Douglas Brocker argued that as > a 28-year prosecutor, Nifong should have known all the rules of > professional conduct. > > Rae Evans, mother of David Evans, said the families do not take any > pleasure from watching the proceedings. > > "I don't think our families will take any joy from the inevitable > decision from the bar," she said during an earlier break. "It's not > about joy. It's collateral damage. To the lacrosse family, to our > families, to [the accuser's] family, to the Nifong family," she said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RHR Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Everybody here is missing a key point. The election of prosecutors and judges is a strange US custom, not found anywhere else in the world. Can you imagine this happening if we had a civil service meritocracy, like most other countries, instead? RHR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Citizen Jimserac Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 On Jun 16, 7:23 pm, robbielynn <robbielynnw...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 16, 7:20 pm, "winnard" <8tra...@cox.net> wrote: > > > "what goes around ------->" <youguesse...@comes.around.yep> wrote in messagenews:ffp873tfn9bdn4hstm2s7r1fakhbb01tcr@news... > > >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/16/AR200... > > > > Duke Prosecutor Nifong Disbarred > > > What's incredible about this story....lawyers working on Saturday. > > > winnard > > Funny. It's also amazing that somehting finally > wiped that smirky smile off Nifong's face. You said it. Until something like this happens, they seem to think that they're some kind of god, invulnerable and invincible. Just like that smirk that's going to be wiped off Gonzales' face. Citizen Jimserac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Citizen Jimserac Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 On Jun 17, 9:23 am, RHR <R...@nospammy.com> wrote: > Everybody here is missing a key point. The election of prosecutors > and judges is a strange US custom, not found anywhere else in the > world. Can you imagine this happening if we had a civil service > meritocracy, like most other countries, instead? > > RHR Now THAT is a good idea. Citizen Jimserac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Red Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 On Jun 16, 6:43?pm, "what goes around ------->" <youguesse...@comes.around.yep> wrote: > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/16/AR200... > > Duke Prosecutor Nifong Disbarred > > By Sylvia Adcock > Special to The Washington Post > Saturday, June 16, 2007; 5:48 PM > > RALEIGH, N.C., June 16 -- Hours after he was found guilty of ethics > charges in his prosecution of three Duke lacrosse players falsely > accused of rape, Durham County District Attorney Michael B. Nifong on > Saturday surrendered his law license to the state bar and said he > would waive his right to appeal the convictions. > > Nifong had been fighting to save his law license, but his lawyers > apparently changed their minds late Saturday during the fifth day of > an ethics hearing. > > A three-person North Carolina State Bar disciplinary panel said the > evidence showed Nifong had withheld crucial information from the > students' defense attorneys and engaged in "dishonesty, fraud, deciept > or misrepresentation" during his prosecution of the case. The > panelists were about to announce whether Nifong should be disbarred > when his attorney announced that Nifong had decided disbarment was the > appropriate punishment. Nifong had already said he would quit his > Durham position. > > It marks the first time in North Carolina a sitting district attorney > has been disbarred. > > Joseph Cheshire V, who represents David Evans of Bethesda, said that > he thinks Nifong saw where the case against him was headed. "It's kind > of like the man who is about to be executed manages to tie a bed sheet > to the bed and hang himself," he said. "He manages to go out with some > sense of control over his own destiny." > > The bar panel said his comments about the case -- which included > referring to the Duke lacrosse team as "hooligans" -- heightened > public condemnation of the accused, a violation of ethical rules. > > Earlier, the families of the three exonerated players fought back > tears as they relived the moments when they learned their sons would > be indicted in connection with allegations that a stripper was raped > and beaten at a March 2006 party thrown by the lacrosse team. > > "He let out a cry I'll never forget," said Mary Ellen Finnerty, mother > of Collin Finnerty. "He howled. He collapsed on a bed. We all > cried{lcub}hellip{rcub}.No one can give us these 14 months back." > > The three players -- Finnerty of Garden City, N.Y., Evans, and Reade > Seligmann of Essex Fells, N.J. -- were charged with rape and sexual > assault last spring. In January, Nifong turned the case over to the > state attorney general's office because of charges filed against him > by the bar. The attorney general investigated the case and found the > accuser's version of events unreliable and said the young men were > innocent. > > David Evans's father, also named David Evans, testified Friday that > his son learned he would be indicted days before graduation. After the > indictment, a job offer at J.P. Morgan was rescinded, with the firm > saying it couldn't hire someone facing a felony charge. As his father > spoke, David Evans held his mother's hand as she wiped away tears. > > An attorney for the state bar asked Evans about his reaction to > Nifong's apology Friday when he said he was sorry for any pain he had > caused the families. "It resonated with me that he said he wanted his > son to be proud of him," Evans said. > > But he said he was upset with Nifong's comments under questioning > yesterday in which he said he still believed "something happened" in > the bathroom of that house that night. "I have a hard time with that. > I don't accept it." Nifong showed no reaction. > > While Nifong's lawyers argued earlier that Nifong didn't knowingly > violate the rules, state bar prosecutor Douglas Brocker argued that as > a 28-year prosecutor, Nifong should have known all the rules of > professional conduct. > > Rae Evans, mother of David Evans, said the families do not take any > pleasure from watching the proceedings. > > "I don't think our families will take any joy from the inevitable > decision from the bar," she said during an earlier break. "It's not > about joy. It's collateral damage. To the lacrosse family, to our > families, to [the accuser's] family, to the Nifong family," she said. Good is all I can say. I hope he can't find work and has to resort to welfare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Red Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 On Jun 16, 7:17?pm, Banshu.I...@gmail.com wrote: > On Jun 16, 5:53 pm, "Tough Tonto" <C...@subby.com> wrote: > > > "what goes around ------->" <youguesse...@comes.around.yep> garbled in > > messagenews:ffp873tfn9bdn4hstm2s7r1fakhbb01tcr@news... > > > > Duke Prosecutor Nifong Disbarred > > > Yeah, but can he explain why he has a Chinese last name? > > Good question. Does he have a Chinese father? Does he look Chinese? NO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Red Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 On Jun 16, 7:23?pm, robbielynn <robbielynnw...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 16, 7:20 pm, "winnard" <8tra...@cox.net> wrote: > > > "what goes around ------->" <youguesse...@comes.around.yep> wrote in messagenews:ffp873tfn9bdn4hstm2s7r1fakhbb01tcr@news... > > >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/16/AR200... > > > > Duke Prosecutor Nifong Disbarred > > > What's incredible about this story....lawyers working on Saturday. > > > winnard > > Funny. It's also amazing that somehting finally > wiped that smirky smile off Nifong's face. I was thinking the same damn thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Rogers Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 We've got a blind date with Destiny, RHR <RHR@nospammy.com> - and it looks like she's ordered the lobster. >Everybody here is missing a key point. The election of prosecutors >and judges is a strange US custom, not found anywhere else in the >world. Can you imagine this happening if we had a civil service >meritocracy, like most other countries, instead? Yeah! Let's use a bloated bureaucracy total unaccountable to the populace! That's been proven to work! John Rogers AU Class of 1985 The Al Del Greco of Atlanta The Nail Gun of Quiet Reflection Deacon Dr. John Flow "In the future, I plan on taking more of an active role in the decisions I make." (Paris Hilton) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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