Guest robert Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 It is interesting to observe that there are thousands of different God beliefs but NO OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE ANY of these Gods actually exist except in peoples imaginations. Quite the contrary, there is a wealth of positive objective verifiable evidence that no Gods actually exist. Objective evidence indicates the Universe is greater than 20 BILLION LIGHT YEARS in diameter. When you consider that light travels at 186,000 MILES PER SECOND the Universe is incomprehensible in size and by comparison, our World, is but a speck of dust in this vast Universe. The scientific evidence is that our World is over 4 BILLION YEARS old. Archaeological evidence is that man has existed on earth for approximately 100,000 years. When the various books of the Bible were written, most of mankind believed the world was flat and the Sun, Stars and Planets revolved around the Earth. Many believed that Christopher Columbus might sail to the edge of the earth, and might fall off, during his trip that discovered the new continent. In 1492 and Biblical times the majority of the world assumed the earth was flat and the Son, Stars and planets revolved around the Earth. Columbus proved the Earth to be round. By the 16 Th. century, scientists like Galileo, determined that the Earth, Stars and Planets of our solar system revolved around the Sun. This spread through the scientific community and the majority accepted this reality by the 1800's. We now know from actual evidence, the earth is but an inconsequential speck of dust in this unimaginably vast Universe. It is scientific opinion that thousands and perhaps millions of planets, similar to Earth, exist in this huge Universe. Man is but grains of sand on this large Earth and less than dust in this vast Universe. The 6 1/2 BILLION persons currently on this planet do not appear to be of any significant consequence in this vast Universe. In your Gods world; Plagues, Tsunamis, Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions, Wars, Cancers and hundreds of debilitating diseases, serious body malfunctions and starvation exist that torture both man and animals. There are 12,000 known ailments and diseases that torture and kill man. A similar number torture and plaque the rest of the animal kingdom. Thousands of destructive diseases affect the plant kingdom. Why would an all powerful god create all these diseases to torture and kill his creations??? These catastrophes affect people of ALL religious beliefs including TOTALLY INNOCENT CHILDREN and ANIMALS! Just one small example of ridiculous ailments is a parasitic worm in West Africa that bores through the eyes of innocent children and causes total blindness for the rest of their lives. Is this evidence of a caring and loving creator or any competent creator for that matter??? Why would any all powerful competent god permit totally innocent children to die at birth? Or worse, be born lacking eyesight, a fully developed brain, deaf and dumb, missing limbs etc.? Why are some born idiots and others with super intelligence? Why are some born into wealth and others pauper poor? Why does he permit 2,000,000 totally innocent children to suffer and die of starvation each year? Why are his human creations designed to deteriorate into a miserable and devastating old age? Why would god create a gene for vitamin C synthesis in most mammals, but stop it working in humans and chimps? Why would god create a lizard that reproduces by parthenogenesis, and still give it the need to attempt copulation? Why would god create birds without the power of flight, yet give them wings they cannot use? Why would god create cave-dwelling creatures that live in complete darkness, yet give them eyes that don't work? If an all powerful god created this, why did he make so many horrible mistakes and create this huge multitude of imperfections, pain and suffering??? Why would any all powerful god create things like sharks, jelly fish, octopus, lions, tigers, rhinoceros, poisonous snakes, stinging and poisonous insects, poisonous plants etc.? Why would he create animals (including man) that need to kill and eat other animals to survive? IF there is an after life and a 'heaven' why does this all powerful, all caring and all loving god not permit those in his heaven to communicate the wonders of his heaven to their living children, relatives and friends? Why all the secrecy and confusion? Unproven claims by the mentally deranged and persons with selfish motives are not objective verifiable evidence - they are just unsubstantiated silly OPINIONS. Logic and common sense that refutes the existence of any omnipotent gods; Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then where does evil come from? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him a god? These god tales make no more sense than Aesop's Fables, the Harry Potter stories, the Wizard of Oz, or Santa Claus. The objective evidence is that gods did not create man but quite the opposite; man created gods! Where is ANY objective verifiable evidence that ANY Gods actually exist? Following is a list of the many gods worshipped and feared by man over the decades. Which, if any, of these gods is the real god? If there is a real god, why does he not tell us directly and clearly he is the real god and all the others are fakes??? Why does he not smite all the fakes? Allah, Aphrodite, Ares, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Babaluaye, Bacchus, Baldur, Bast, Bellona, Brahma, Brigid, Ceres, Cupid, Cerridwen, Demeter, Diana, Dione, Dionysus, Eris, Eos, Eleggua, , El Shaddai, Elohim Eshu, Ereshkigal, Frigga, Frey, Freya, Gaea, Lord Genesa, Hades, Hebe, Hera, Helios, Hel, Hephaestus, Hermes, Hestia, Horus, Ibeji, Ifa, Inanna, Indra, Ishana, Ishtar, Isis, Janus, Juno, Jehovah, Jesus, Jove, Jupiter, Kali. Krishna Kronos, Korravai, Loki, Lugh, Lord Indra, Manitou, Mars, Mercury, Minerva, Mercurius, Morrigan, Nahuiquiahuitl, Nanahuatzin, Nephthys, Neptune, Obatala, Odin, Ogun, Oshosi, Oshun, Osiris, Oya, Orunmila, Olokun, Olodumare, Pluto, Persephone, Poseidon, Proserpina, Quetzalcoatl, Ra, Lord Rama, Rhea, Saturn, Set, Selene, Shango, Lord Siva, Tammuz, Thor, Tir, Tiw, Uranus, Venus, Vesta, Vishnu, Vesta, Vulcan, Wotan, Yahweh, Yemaya, Zeus. African gods: Abassi [sky] Abonsam [Evil] Abora [supreme] Abzu [Water] Acoran [supreme] Adaheli [sun] Adro [sky] Adroa [sky] Agassou [Panther] Agbe-Naete [Water] Age [Animals] Aigamuxa [Monster] Ajalamo[unborn Children] Aje [Wealth] Ajok [supreme] Akonadi [Oracle] Akongo [supreme] Akuj [supreme] Ala [Earth/Fertility] Alatangana [Creator] Amma [Creator] Anansi [Trickster] Anyiewo [snake] Aondo [Creator] Apa [Creator] Apedemak [War] Arawa [Moon] Arebati [sky] Arom [Contracts] Arsan Duolai [underworld] Asase Ya [Earth] Ashiakle [Wealth] Asis [sun] Astar [sky] Ataa Naa Nyongmo [Creator] Ataokoloinona [supreme] Atete [Fertility] Avrikiti [Fishermen] Ayabba [Ayaba] [Hearth] Bacax [Cave] Bagba [Wind] Balubaal [Earth+] Bandara [superior Gods] Banga [Clear water] Behanzin [Fish] Beher [sea] Bera Pennu [Vegetation] Bo [Warriors] Bomazi[Ancestors] Buadza [WInd] Buck[River] Buku [sky] Bumba [Creator] Cagn [Creator] (!Kaggen) Cghene [Creator] Chiuke (Chuku) [Creator] Chiata [supreme] Chwezi [Hero] Col [Rain] Chikara [sky] Danh (Dan Ayido Hwedo) [snake] Deng [sky] Deohako [beans+] Dii Mauri [Moorish Gods] Dongo [Outer Space] Dugbo [Earth] Dxui [Creator] Emeli-hi [supreme] Eranoranhan [Protector] Eshu (Elegba) [Trickster] Fa [Destiny] Famien [Fertility] Faro [sky/Water] Fidi Mukullu [Creator] Garang and Abuk [First Humans] Gbeni [Chief] Gei (Gou) [Moon] Gu [War/Smiths] Gua [sky] Gulu [supreme] Gunab [Evil] Guruhi [Evil] Gurzil [bull] Gwalu [Rain] Hammon [setting Sun] Harun and Haruna [Water Spirits] Heitsi-Eibib [sorcerer] Hevioss [Thunder] Huntin [Tree] Huvean [Creator] Ifa [Oracul] Ikenga [supreme] Imana [Creator] Iruwa [sun] Jesus [savior] Juok [Creator] Kalumba [Creator] Kalunga Supreme] Katavi [Demonic] Ka Tyeleo [supreme] Khebieso [Lightening] Kho-dumo-dumo [Demon] Kholomodumo [Monster] Khuzwane [Creator] Kibuka [War] Kokola [Guardian] Kwammang-a [supreme] Kwoth [spirit] Kyala [Creator] Legba [Trickster] Leza [Chief] Libanza [supreme] Lisa [Chameleon] Lyangombe[Chief] Macardit [Demon] Mantis [Creator] Massim-Biambe [Creator] Mawu [sky] Mawu-Lisa [supreme Couple] Mbotumbo [supreme] Medr [Earth] Moomb [Creator] Mon [?] Mugasa Mugu [sky] Mujaji [Rain] Mukasa [supreme] Mula Djadi [Creator] Muluku [supreme] Mulungu Mungu [Creator] Mungo (Mungu) [?] Musa (Teaching] Musisi [supreme] Mwari [supreme] Nampa [Personal] Nana-Bouclou [First Gods] Nana Buluk [Creator] Ndjambi [sky] Ndriananahary [supreme] Nduru [Jungle] Nenaunir [storm] Nesshoue [River] Ngai ('Ngai) [Creator] Ngewo-wa [Creator] Ngworekara [Demon] Niamye [supreme] Nkosi Yama'kosi [supreme] Nommo [Elemental] Nommo [spirit] Nyama [Animal] Nyambe [supreme] Nyambi (Nyambe) [supreme] Nyame Nyami-Nyami [Guardian] Nyankopon (Ashanti:Nyame) [supreme] Nyamia Ama [supreme] Nyasaye [supeme] Nzambi (Nzambi) Mpunguo) [supreme] Nzame [supreme] Obassi Osaw [supreme] Obatala [sky] Oduduwa (Odudua) [Earth] Ogun (Ogoun) War] Olokula [sea] Olorun [supreme] Omumbo-Rombonga [Tree of Life] Orahan [supreme] Orisa Nla [Creator] Orishako [Agriculture] Orunjan [Midday Sun] Orunmila [Compassion] Oshalla [?] Osun [beauty and Love] Oya [Passion and Power] Pemba (Bemba) Mother] Qandisa [Demon] Qamata[Quamta] Supreme] Rock-Sene [supreme] Ruwa [supreme] Sagbata [smallpox] Sakarabru [Medicine] Sakpata [smallpox] Sango [Thunder] Shango [Thunder] So [Lightening] Tano [River] Tore [Forest] Trowu[spirits] Tsui'goab [Rain] Twe [Lake] Umvelinqangi [Creator] Unkulunkulu [supreme] Unumbotte [Creator] Waka [Rain] Wele [supreme] Wulbari [supreme] Wuni [supreme] Xewioso [Thunder] Yemaja [Creation] Yo [impersonal] Zin [Water] Asian Gods: BUDDHIST Abhijnaraja [Physician] Abhimukhi [One of the Bhumis] Acala [?] Adhimukticarya [One of the Bhumis] Adhimuktivasita [One of the Bhumis] Adibuddha [First] Adidharma [Primeval] Aizen Myo-o [Protective] Ajaya [?] Akasagarbha(Tibetan Nam-mkhai Aksayajnana-Karmanda [Literature] Aksobhya (Japanese Ashuku, Chinese A-Chu'u) [One of the Dhyani] Amida [savior] Amitabha [A Dhyani] Amitayus [Longevity] Amoghapasa [see Avalokitesvara] Amoghasiddhi [A Dhyani] Anantamukhi [Literature] Arapacana [book and Sword] Arcismati [bhumis] Arhat [A Saint] Arthapratisamvit [Logical Analysis] Arya-Tara [sakti] Asokakanta [avatar Marici] Asokottamasri [Physician] Astabhuja-Kurukulla [avatar Kurukulla] Asura [Group of Demons] Avalokitesvara(Avalokita, Lokesvara) [Dhyani Present Age] Ayurvasita[One vasitas] Balaparamita [Philosophy] Bhaisajyaguru(Sman-bla, Otaci,Yao-shih-fo, Yakushi)[Physician] Bhima[Attendant] Bhrkuti[Female] Bhrkuti-Tara [Mother] Bhumi [spiritual Spheres] Bhutadarma [Demon Controller] Bi-har [Protector] Bodhidharma [Monk] Bodhisattva (Chinese Pu-sa) [born to be Englightened] Buddhabodhiprabhavasita [Vasitas] Buddhalocana [Female Buddha] Budha [Mercury] Butcho [?] Chandarosana [Mahayana] Charcika (Carcika) [Mahayana] Chakravartin [World Ruler] Chattrosnisa [An Usnisa] Chaturmaharajas (Caturmaharajas) [Four Great Kings] Chittavista [Vashitas] Citipati [Graveyard Demons] Cunda [Literature] Da-shi-zhi [bodhisattva] Dadimunda [Temples] Dainichi' [Purity/Wisdom] Dakini [Demons] Dala Kadavara [Demon] Devaputra [Gods of Lower Rank] Dhanada [avatar Amoghasiddhi] Dharani [Mystical Texts] Dharmadhatuvagisvara [Dharma] Dharmakirtisagaraghosa [Physician] Dharmamegha [bhumis] Dharmapala ,Chinese Fu Ha [Protective Dieties] Dharmapratisamvit [Nature Analysis] Dharmavasita [Vasitas] Dhritarashtra (Pali Dhatarattha) [One of the 4 World Guardians] Dhupa [Mother] Dhupatara [Mahayana] Dhvajagrakeyura [avatar Aksobhya] Dhyanaparamita [Philosophy] Dhyani-Bodhisattvas [Five Bodhisattvas] Dhyani-Buddhas [Five Meditators] Di-zang [bodhisattvas of Hell] Dvarapala [?] Ekajata [Terrible] Emma-o [Judges the Dead] Fudo [WIsdom] Guan Yin [bodhisattva] Hariti [Ate Children] Hayagriva [Protection] Heruka [Protection] Hevajra [Protection] Ida-Ten [Law/Monestaries] Jambhala [avatar Vausravana] Janguli [snakebite cure] Jian Lao [Earth/Permanence] Jizo [Compassion] Juichimen [Mercy] Kali devia [avatar Lha-mo] Kannon [Japanese bodhisattva] Khasarpana(Khasarpana-Lokesvara) [indian bodhisattva] Ki Fudo [avatar Fudo-Myo-o] Krodhadevatas [inspire Terror] Ksitigarbha [One of 8 bodhisattva] Kuan-yin (Kwannon) [Mercy] Kujaku Myoo [Esoteric] Kurukulla [?] Locana [?] Mahasthamaprata [Chinese bodhisattva] Maitreya [Future] Manjughosa [Nepalese bodhisattva] Manjusri [bodhisattva] Mara [Evil] Marici [sun] Mi-lo Fo (Pu-Sa) [Chinese bodhisattva Miroku [Japanese bodhisattva Mo-Li [Protects Temples] Padmanartesvara [avatar Bodhisattva Avalokitesvara] Pancaraksa[5 Goddesses] Pandara [?] Paramasva [?] Parnasavari [?] Prajna [Femaleness] Prajnaparamita [buddhist Text] Ran-deng [beggar and Future Buddha] Ratnapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva] Ratnasambhava [Dhyani-Buddha] Remanta [King of the Horse gods] Sakyamuni [Japanese] Samantabhadra [bodhisattvas] Saptaksara [avatar Heruka] Shakra [King of the Gods] Ssu Ta T'ien Wang [Kings of Heaven] Sumbharaja [buddhist Krodhadevata] Tennin (Tennyo) [angels] Usnisavijaya [?] Vairocana [Dhyani-Buddhas] Vaisravana (Pali Vessavana, Chinese Do Wen) [Guards World] Vajrabhairava [?] Vajrapani [bodhisattvas] Vajrasattva [Nepal Dhyani-Buddha] Vajravarahi [?] Vajrayogini [initiation] Vajrayogini [Riches] Vidyadharas [?] Vidyujjvalakarali [?] Vighnantaka [?] Virudhaka (Pali Virulha, Chinese Zheng Zhang) [Guards World] Virupaksa (Pali Virupakkha, Chinese Guand Mu) [Guards Western Heaven] Visvapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva] We-to [Divine General] Yakushi Nyorai [Healing] Yama [?] Yamantaka [Krodhadevatas] Zhu Dian (Zhu Tian) [Chinese Buddhist gods] CHINESE GODS Ao [sea] Awun [Destruction] Ba [Drought] Ba Gua [basis of Divination] Bo Hsian [Taoist] Cai-Shen [Riches] Can Cong [silkworms] Cao Guo-jiu [Actors] Chang Fei [War] Chang Hs'ien [Children] Chang Kuo-lao [?] Ch'ang E (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [Moon] Chang Tao Ling [Afterlife] Cheng-huang (Ch'eng Huang) [Guardians] Chen Jen [spiritual Beings] Cheng San-Kung [Fishermen] Cheng Yuan Ho (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [buskers] Chih Nu [Weavers] Chih Sung-Tzu (Chi Sung Tzu) [Rain] Chih-Yu [inventor] Ch'in-Shu-Pao [Guardian] Chou Wang [sodomy] Chu-Chuan Shen [Pigsties] Chu Jung [Fire] Chu Lung [Day/Night] Chung K'uei [Afterlife] Chung-li Ch'uan [immortal] Confucius [Philosopher] Di Zhang Xia [?] Dong-yo Da-di [Helps Sky God] Erh-Lang [Guardian] Fan-K'uei [butchers] Fei Lien (Fei Lian) [Wind] Feng-Huang (Hoang-female Phuong-male) [Many Meanings] Feng Po (Feng-Po) [Human form of the wind] Feng P'o-p'o (Feng-Po-Po) [Female wind] Fo [buddha] Fu His [Taught Humanity] Fu Hsing [Happiness] Fu Shen [Happiness] Fu-Shou-Lu [Collection of Gods] Fu-xi [Hero] Gao Yao (Ting-jian) [Judgement] Gong Gong [Common Workers] Gou Mang and Ru Shou [Messengers] Guan Di (Kuan Ti) [War/Fortune Telling] Gui Xian [Demon] Han Hsiang [immortal] Han Xiang-zi [immortal] He Bo (Bing-yi) [Rivers] Heng E (Change-e) [Moon] He Xian-gu [immortal] Heng-Ha-Erh-Chiang [Temples] Heng-o [Moon] Ho Hsien-ku [immortal] Ho Po [River] Hou Chi [Harvest] Hou I [Archer] Hou T'u [Earth] Hsien [Taoists] Hsi Ho [sun's Creator] Hsi Wang Mu [Guardian] Hsuan-T'ien-Shang-Ti [Dark Heaven] Hua Hsien [Flower] Huang-di (Huang Ti) (Shun) [Hero] Huang Fei-hu (Fei) [Mountain] Hu-Shen [Hail] I [bowmen] Infoniwoo [Generation] I-Ti [Wine] K'ai Lu Shen [Purges Evil] Kuan Yu [War] K'uei Hsing [Examinations] Lan Cai-he [immortal] Lao T'ien Yeh [supreme] Lao-Tzu (Lao-zi) [Philosopher] Lei Kung [storm] Lei-zi [Thunder] Li [Fire] Li Tie-guai [immortal] Liu [Crops] Lu Dong-bin (Lu Yan) [immortal] Lu-Hsing [salaries/Employees] Lung Wang [Dragon King] Lupan [Carpenters] Ma-Mien [bureaucrat] Meng (Meng P'o) [underworld] Meng-T'ien [Writing Brush] Men Shen [Doors, includes sometimes Wei Cheng] Mu Gong [immortals] Niu-Y'oun [Police] Nu Gua (Nu Kua, Nu Wa) [Creator and Marriage] O-Mi-T'o Fo [Amitabha] Pa [Drought] Pa-Cha [Anti-locusts] Pa-Hsien [Eight Immortals] P'an-Chin-Lien [Prostitues] 'P'an Ku (Panku, Pangu) [Cosmos] Pi-Hsia-Yuan-Chun [Childbirth] Puhsien [sun] Ran-deng [Future Buddha] San Ch'inga [Three Taos] Shang Di (Shang Ti) [supreme] She Chi (Thu) [Earth] Shen [spirit] Sheng Jen [Holy] Shen-nong(Shen Nung) [Hero] Shen-T'u [Guardian] Shen Yi [sun] Shiang Ku [Magician] Shih-Tien Yen-Wang [Committe of Ten] Shou-Hsing [Longevity] Shou Lao (Shou Xing Lao Tou-zi) [Long Life] Shou-Ts'ang [servant] Shui-Fu [Water] Shui-Kuan [Defender] Ssu Ming [Life and Death] Sung-Chiang [Theives] Sun Hou-Tzu [Monkey] Sun Hou-zi [Apes] Sun-Pin [Cobblers] T'ai I [High] Tai-sui-xing [Time] Tai-yi [sky] T'ai Yueh Ta Ti (Tung-Yueh-Ta-Ti, T'ai-Yo, Ta-Ti) [Peak] Thu [Earth] Tian [sky] Tian-zhu [Catholic] Tien (T'ien) [sky] Tien-Hou (T'ien Fei) [Heaven] T'ien-Kuan [Happiness] T'ien Lung [Dragon] Tien Mu [Lightening] Tien-Wang (Mo-Li) [Kings] Ti-Kuan [Foregiveness] Ti Nu (Ti-ya) [Earth] Ti-Tsang-Wang-Pu-Sa [Mercy] Ti Yu [Afterlife] Tou Nu [North Star] Ts'ai-Lun [stationers] Ts'ai Shen [Wealth] Tsan [Demons] Ts'ang Chien [Hearth] Tsao Shen [?] Tsao-Wang [Hearth] Tu [Earth] Tung Wang Kung [Ruled Male Immortals] T'u-ti (Ti-Ti) [Locality] Wang [Palace Door] Wang-Mu-Niang-Niang [Guardian] Wen Ch'ang (Wen-Chang-Ta-Ti) [Literature] Wen-Shu Yen-K'ung [Manjushri] Wen Pu [Epidemics] Wu Ti [Myth] Xian [spirits] Xi-Wang-mu [immortality] Yama [seventh hell] Yan-lo (Yan Wang) [underworld Prince] Yao [Wind Conqueror] Yao-shi-fo [Physician] Yao Wang [Medicine] Yeng-Wang-Yeh [Death] Yen Wang (Yen Lo) [underworld Judge] Yin and Yang [Male and Female] Yo Fei [War] Yu-Chiang [Ocean Winds] Yu-di (Yu Huang) [supreme] Yueh Fei [War] Yu Huang (Yu-Huang-Shang-Ti) [High] Yun T'ung [Clouds] Yu-qiang [sea] Yu Shih [Rain] Yu-tzu [Rain] Zao Jun [Kitchen] Zhang Guo-lao [immortal] Zhong-Kui [Literature and Examinations] Zhong-li Quan [immortal] [sources: Brief History of Ancient Chinese Mythology] Finnish Gods: Ahto [Water] Akka [Harvest] Egres [Vegetation/Fertility] Hiisi [Forest/Evil] Ilma [Air] Ilmarinen [sky] Inmar [sky] Juma [sky] Jumala (Mader-Atcha, Ukk) [Thunder+] Kalevanpojat [Demons] Kalma [Death] Kekri [Fertility Feast] Kipu-Tytto [illness] Kondos [sowing Crops] Kuu [Moon] Lemminkainen [Hero] Louhi [sorcery/Evil] Loviatar [Disease] Luonnotar [Creator] Madderakka [Dwarves] Maahiset [Dwarves] Naaki [Water] Nyrckes [?] Olmai (Olmay) [Divine properties] Pajainen [?] Pajonn [Thunder] Para [Goblin Like] Pellonpekko [barley] Raudna [?] Rutu [Devil] Sampsa [Vegetation] Seides [stones] Rauni [?] Tapio [Forest] Tiermes [Thunder] Tuoni [underworld Tursas [Monster] Ukko (Isainen) [Thunder] Vainamoinen [Hero] Veralden-radien [World Pillars] Waralden Olmai [World] JAPANESE GODS Aji-Suki-Taka-Hi-Kone (Aji-Shiki-Taka-Hiko-Ne) [Thunder] Ama-No-Minakanushi-No-Kumi [Pole Star] Ame-No-Oshido-Mimi [Refusal] Ama-No-Uzume [Fertility] Ama-Tsu-Kami [Heavenly Gods] Amatsu Mikaboshi [Evil] Ame-No-Hohi [Disappeared] Ame-No-Wakahiko [Ruled Earth] Bimbo-Gami [Poverty] Bishamon [War] Chimata-No-Kami [Rain/Sea] Daikoku [Wealth] Ebisu [Labor] Fuchi [Fire] Fukurokuju (Fukuro kuju) [Wisdom] Futsunushi [Lightening] Gozu-Tenno [Plague] Haya-Ji (Haya-Tsu-Muji-No-Kami) [Whirlwind] Hikohohodemi [Hero] Hinokagutsuchi [Fire] Hiruko [Morning Sun] Hoderi [?] Hisa-Me [Devils] Ho-Masubi (Kagu Zuchi) [Fire] Hosuseri [?] Hotei [Laughter] Inari [Prosperity] Izanagi [Creator] Izanami [Mother] Jikoku [Guardians] Jimmu Tenno [Founder] Jurojin (Jorojin) [Longevity] Kagu-tsuchi [Fire] Kamado-gami [Hearth] Kami [Divinities] Kami-Musubi (Kami-mi-masubi) [?] Kami-Nari [Thunder] Kamui [sky] Kappa [Water] Kawa-No-Kami [Rivers] Kishijoten [Luck] Kishimojin [Demon] Komoku [south] Kompira [Wealth] Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime (Kono-no-hana-saku-ya-hime) [?] Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime Kuni-Toko-tachi [First] Kuni-Tsu-Kami [Earth] Kura-Okami [Rain/Snow] Nai-No-Kami [Earthquakes] Naka-Yama-Tsu-Mi [Mountain Slopes] Ningyo [Mermaid] Ninigi [Ruler Earth] O-Kuni-Nushi (Okuninushi) [Medicine/Sorcery] Onamuji [Earth] Omiwa [Protective] Oni [Demons] O-Wata-Tsumi [sea] O-Yama-Tsu-Mi (O-yama-tsuni) [Mountain] Raiden [Thunder] Ryo-Wo [sea] Ryujin (Ryugin) [Thunder/Rain] Sae-No-Kami [Roads] Sengen-Sama [Guarded Holy Moutain] Sennin [immortals] Shichi-Fukujin [Luck] Shiko-Me [Devils] Shine-Tsu-Hiko [Wind] Shitatera-Hime [?] Shi-tenno [Cardinal Direction Guardians] Shojo [satyrs] Soko-No-Kuni [underworld] Suitengu [sea] Sukuna-bikone (Suku-na-biko) [Hot Springs] Shoki [Enemy of Devils] Susanowo (Susanoo, Susa-no-wo) [storms] Takamimusubi (Taka-mi-masubi) [Royal Family] Takemikadzuchi [Thunder] Take-Mi-Musubi [sun] Taki-Tsu-Hiko [Rain] Tatsuta-hime [Autumn] Ten-gu (Tengu) [Mountain/Forest] Tenjin (Temmangu) [Learning/Calligraphy] Tsuki-Yomi (Tsukiyomi) [Moon] Uji-gami [Ancestors] Uke-Mochi-No-Kami (Ukemochi, Waka-Uke-Nomi, Toyo-Uke-Bime) [Fertility and Food] Uzume [Mirth] Wakahiru-me [Rising Sun]\ Wata-tsu-mi [sea] Yabune [House] Zocho [south] Shinto Amaterasu [sun] Ama-Tsu-Mara [smiths] Ame-No-Kagase-Wo [Astral] Ame-No-Mi-Kumari-No-Kami [Water] Amenominakanushi (Ame-No-Minaka-Nushi-No-Kami) [supreme] Am-No-Tanabata-Hime-No-Mikoto [Weavers] Ame-No-Toko-Tachi-No-Kami [Elemental] Ame-no-uzume [Dancers] Benten (Benten-San, Benzaiten, Benzaiten) [Eloquence+] Fujin [Wind] Hachiman [War] Ho-musubi [Fire] Kami [idols] SOUTH ASIAN GODS Cao Dai(Chinese: Gao-Tai) [supreme] Debata [?] Empung Luminuut [?] Hainuwele [?] Hananim [sky] Hmin [Ague] Karei [supreme] Kinharingan [Creator] Kud [Evil] Laseo [sun] Lature Dano [supreme] Lowalangi(Lowalani) [World Above] Mahatala (Mahataral) [supreme?] Ma-zu [?] Nanmata (Namite) [Primeval] Narbrooi [Woodlands] Nemu [Primodial] Palk [sun] Puang Matowa [sky] Pulug [Thunder] Reahu [Dark Demon] Rigenmucha [supreme] Silewe Nazarata [?] Sirao [First] Ta Pedn [?] Tnong [sun] Tumbrenjak [Original Man] Upulevo [sun] Wunekau [sun] CENRAL AND WEST ASIAN GODS Abyrga [snake] Afi [Rain/Thunderstorms] Aitvaras [Evil] Alardi [spirit] Aralo [Agriculutre] Armaz [supreme] Auseklis (Ausrine) [stellar] Baba [spirit] Baba Yaga (Jezi-Baba) [Ogress] Bagvarti [?] Bangputys [sea] Bannik [baths] Bagisht [Flood/Prosperity] Barastir (Barastaer) [underworld] Bardha [Elves] Beg-tse (Cam-srin) [War] Beng [satan] Biegg-Olmai [Wind] Bogatyri [Heroes] Boldogasszony (Kisboldogasszony) [Protector Women/Children] Bolla (Bullar) [Demon] Buga [supreme] Bukura e dheut [Good Spirit] Bukuri e qiellit [Jehovah] Byelobog (Bielbog) [?] Byelun [?] Chernobo(Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [?] Chors [sun] Dabog [sun] Deive [stone Spirits] Dieva deli [?] Dievini [Less Known Gods] Dievs [sky] Djall [Devil] Domovoi (Domovoy) [Household] Donbittir [Water/Fish] Drag-gshed [Eight Terrible Gods] Dud [Heavenly Spirit] Dvorovoi [Courtyard] Dyavo [Demons] En [?] Erlik [King of the Dead] Es [sky] Fatit [Destiny] Fene [Demon] Gabija (Gabieta, Gabeta) [Fire] Gabjauja [Corn] Giltine [Death] Guta [Demon] Hadur [War] Himavat [Himalayas] Horagalles [War] Isdustaya and Papaya [Fate] Isten [supreme] Jagaubis [Fire] Jarovit (Gerovitus) [War] Jessis [avatar Jupiter] Jumis [Fertility] Juras Mate [Water] Kaka-Guia [Funerary] Kalvis [smith] Karta [Fate] Kaukas [?] Khors [Health/Hunting] Khyung-gai mGo-can [?] Kikimora [Household] K'op'ala [Protective] Kukuth (Kukudhi) [sickness] Kulshedra (Kucedre) [Demon] Kun-tu-bzan-po [Chief Bon] Kupala [Water/Magic/Herbs] Kurdalaegon [blacksmiths] Laima [Fate] Lamaria [Hearth] Laskowice (Leshcia) [Forest] Lauka Mate [Fields/Fertility] Laume [Fairy] Leshy [Forest] Lha [bon Gods] Lhamo [?] Ljeschi (Lychie) [Fauns and Satyrs] Ljubi [Demon] Manzasiri [Primeval] Mate [Mother] Mati Syra Zemlya [Earth] Medeine (Mejdejn) [Woods] Meness [Moon] Menulis [Moon] Meza Mate [Nature] Mirsa [Light] Mokos [Fertility] Mu (rMu) [Heavenly] Muma Padura [Wood] Myesyats (Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [Moon] Nang Lha [Household] Nari [Demon] Nari [sky] Num [sky] Odqan [Fire] Ora [Protective] Ordog [Dark] Pekar (Pehar) [Demon] Peko [barley] Perendi [Jehovah] Perit [Mountain Spirits] Perkons [Thunder] Perkunas [Thunder] Perun (Peroun) [Thunder] Polevik [Field] Poludnitsa [Field] Pon [sky] Porenutius (Porevit) [?] Preas Eyn [?] Preas Eyssaur [Destructive] Preas Prohm [Primeval] Prende (Prenne) [Love] Psezpolnica (Polish Poludnica) [Midday] Pugu [sun] Qormusta (Chormusta) [High] Rugievit [War] Rusalki (Rusalka) [Water/Woodlands] Safa [Weapens] Sanda [?] Sarkany [Weather] Saule [sun] Saules meitas [?] Selardi [Moon] Shen-Lha-od-dkar [bon] Shen-rab [Founder Bon] Sipe Gyalmo [bon] Shiwini [sun] Shosshu [smiths] Siwini [sun] Srat [Demon] Sri [Demon] Sridevi [?] Stribog [Winds] Svantevit (Svantoveit, Svantovitus) [War/Agriculture] Svarog [sky] Syen [Guardian] Stihi [Demon] Teljavelik [Heavenly Smith] Telyaveli [smiths] Tengri [Heavenly Beings] Tesheba [Weather] Thab-lha [Hearth] Triglav (Trigelawus) [War] Uacilla [Thunder/Rain] Ulgen [Creator] Urme [Fate] Usins [?] Vadatajs [Evil] Vampire [soul of Dead] Veela [Kindess] Veja mate [Winds] Veles (Volos) [underworld] Velnias [Devil] Velu mate [Dead] Verbti [Fire/North Wind] Vila [Water] Vilkacis (Lithuanian Vilkatas) [Werewolf] Vlkodlaks (Vookodlaks) [Werewolf] Vodnik [Demon] Vodyanoi [Water] Volos (Volusu) [Cattle] We [supreme] Xhindi [spirits] Yarilo [Love] Zaltys [Grass Snake] Zemepatis (Zemempatis) [supreme] Zemes mate [Mother] Zemyna (Zemyneles) [Earth] Zorya [Guardian] Zvezda Dennitsa and Zvezda Vechernyaya [Morning and Evening Star] SIBERIAN GODS Ai Tojon [Light] Ajysyt [Mother] Anky-Kele [sea] Ayi [Creator] Hittavainen, Hittauanin [Hare-Hunters] Hinkon [Death Demon] K'daai [Fire Demon] Kaltes [The Goddess] Ke'lets [Death Demon] Kurkil [Creator] Kutkinnaku [Good Spirit] Mayin [supreme] Picvu'cin [Hunting/Wild Animals] Shurdi [Thunderstorms] Tomam [bird] Tomor(Tomorr) [Father Creator] Xucau [supreme] Ye'loje (Pugu) [sun] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Flechard Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 On 06/04/2008, robert wrote: > Stars and Planets revolved around the Earth. Many believed that > Christopher Columbus might sail to the edge of the earth, and might > fall off, during his trip that discovered the new continent. That's not true. Most of Columbus's crew were pressed to service, and did not want to go on what would be, quite surely and reasonably, they reckoned, a hazardous voyage. One of the more desperate excuses given by some crew members who did not want to leave their families for such a long trip was that they "might fall off the end of the world". But that was nothing more than an extreme of desperation. As mariners, they knew differently. > In 1492 and Biblical times the majority of the world assumed the > earth was flat and the Son, Stars and planets revolved around the > Earth. Columbus proved the Earth to be round. No they didn't, and no he didn't. This is a misunderstanding of history that is perpetuated by those who repeat myths without properly understanding the history. People KNEW the earth was round. Thousands of years before Columbus plotted his route, Eratosthenes knew the earth was round and measured its circumference to an extraordinary accuracy. Moreover, mariners knew the earth was round. They routinely observed that when a ship disappeared over the horizon, the hull disappeared first, followed by the sails ; and when a vessel appeared on the horizon, the sails appeared first, followed by the hull, and this happened no matter where on the surface of the earth. The only shape of earth that permits this observation is a globe. Mariners and astronomers were also familiar with the phenomenon of lunar eclipses, which they knew were caused by the shadow of the earth falling on the moon. The circular shadow was regularly observed crossing the face of the moon. The only shapes which permit this observation are, of course, spheres. It is a really shame to think that one of the central premises of the likes of Erich von Daniken -- that our ancestors were dummies -- should be promulgated in this way. It is not true. Our forebears merit a better representation than this nonsense. > Why would god create a gene for vitamin C synthesis in most mammals, > but stop it working in humans and chimps? > [etc] One can make many cogent arguments why God (or gods) may not exist, but the Appeal to Incredulity is not one of the better ones. -- David Flechard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Richo Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 On Apr 7, 4:12 am, "robert" <wm...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > It is interesting to observe that there are thousands of different God > beliefs but NO OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE ANY of these Gods actually > exist except in peoples imaginations. Now you talk about "Gods" and yet latter you list many "gods" so I am going to proceed on the basis that you dont understand about capitalizing proper nouns and you meant "gods" all along. You may have a god named God just as you may own a dog named Dog. Now some gods are purely imaginative creations - they have no physical manifestation - but other gods have bodies or some other physical manifestation. > > Quite the contrary, there is a wealth of positive objective verifiable > evidence that no Gods actually exist. > Well that isnt always the case - for example the Roman Emperor Augustus was a god and there is verifiable evidence that he existed. You then spend a lot of time talking about God - which I find tedious so I am not commenting on that. Cheers, Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest robert Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Duh! "Richo" <m.richardson61@gmail.com> wrote in message news:52441bbf-071c-4170-8212-e222be82648f@1g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > On Apr 7, 4:12 am, "robert" <wm...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> It is interesting to observe that there are thousands of different God >> beliefs but NO OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE ANY of these Gods actually >> exist except in peoples imaginations. > > Now you talk about "Gods" and yet latter you list many "gods" so I am > going to proceed on the basis that you dont understand about > capitalizing proper nouns and you meant "gods" all along. > You may have a god named God just as you may own a dog named Dog. > > Now some gods are purely imaginative creations - they have no physical > manifestation - but other gods have bodies or some other physical > manifestation. > >> >> Quite the contrary, there is a wealth of positive objective verifiable >> evidence that no Gods actually exist. >> > Well that isnt always the case - for example the Roman Emperor > Augustus was a god and there is verifiable evidence that he existed. > > You then spend a lot of time talking about God - which I find tedious > so I am not commenting on that. > > Cheers, Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hank Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 "Richo" <m.richardson61@gmail.com> wrote in message news:0a99a89e-a43a-44ed-944b-621d5a8ee318@u12g2000prd.googlegroups.com... > On Apr 8, 8:41 pm, "robert" <wm...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> Duh! > > Gee! That's an intelligent response! > You must be proud. > > Mark. Yes, because it is a more intelligent response than yours! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Richo Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 On Apr 8, 8:41 pm, "robert" <wm...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Duh! Gee! That's an intelligent response! You must be proud. Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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