Obama insults small town America

This guy is so arrogant, he looks down his nose at the average

American,

he associates with black radicals and others with terrorist ties, he

is not

fit to hold any political office let alone the Presidency.

As dangerous as Hillary is, she would be a safer choice than this bum!

Barack Obama, under fire, restates that some US voters are bitter over

economic inequalities

By JIM KUHNHENN,AP

Posted: 2008-04-12 05:01:26

TERRE HAUTE, Indiana (AP) - In the midst of an assault from his

rivals, a defensive Barack Obama said that many working-class

Americans are angry and bitter over economic inequalities and have

lost faith in Washington - and, as a result, vote on the basis of

other issues such as gun protections or gay marriage.

The U.S. Democratic presidential candidate's analysis of what

motivates working-class voters came after chief rival Hillary Rodham

Clinton accused him of looking down on such voters. Clinton rebuked

Obama on Friday for similar remarks he made privately April 6 to a

group of donors in San Francisco.

"People don't vote on economic issues because they don't expect

anybody is going to help them," Obama told a crowd at a Terre Haute,

Indiana, high school Friday evening. "So people end up voting on

issues like guns and are they going to have the right to bear arms.

They vote on issues like gay marriage. They take refuge in their faith

and their community, and their family, and the things they can count

on. But they don't believe they can count on Washington."

The Huffington Post Web site reported Friday that the Illinois

senator, speaking of some Pennsylvanians' economic anxieties, told

supporters at the San Francisco fundraiser: "You go into these small

towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest,

the jobs have been gone now for 25 years. ... And it's not surprising

then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to

people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade

sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

In Terre Haute, Obama said he did describe some voters as bitter when

a donor asked why working-class voters in Pennsylvania were not

getting behind his campaign.

"Well, that's not my experience," Clinton told a Drexel University

crowd, describing the state's residents as resilient, optimistic and

hardworking.

"Pennsylvanians don't need a president who looks down on them," she

said. "They need a president who stands up for them."

Steve Schmidt, a spokesman for Republican candidate John McCain,

described Obama's comments as "condescending" and "out of touch."

In Terre Haute, Obama chided McCain for not responding promptly to the

home mortgage crisis and criticized Clinton for voting for a

bankruptcy bill supported by credit card companies.

"No, I'm IN touch," he said. "I know exactly what's going on. People

are fed up, they are angry, they're frustrated and they're bitter. And

they want to see a change in Washington."

Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said Friday night, "Instead of

apologizing for offending small-town America, Sen. Obama chose to

repeat and embrace the comments he made earlier this week."

Tucker Bounds, a spokesman for McCain, said Friday: "Only an elitist

would say that people vote their values only out of frustration. ...

You can't be more out of touch than that."

Clinton unveiled an ambitious anti-crime plan, addressing an issue

that has so far not been a major factor in the presidential campaign,

but that might sway some voters in the important primary state of

Pennsylvania.

The former first lady outlined her proposal Friday in a speech in

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania's biggest city and one hit hard by a murder

rate that has averaged more than one a day for the last several years.

Clinton is counting on the state's April 22 vote to deliver a big win

over front-runner Obama and help keep her in the race. She trails her

rival in delegates, the popular vote, and the number of states won.

Clinton proposed spending US$4 billion (2.5 billion) a year on anti-

crime measures, including programs to reduce the number of ex-convicts

who return to prison. The money also would help communities hire more

police officers and "community-oriented prosecutors."

Clinton also proposed eliminating the federal mandatory five-year

sentence for crack cocaine users as part of an effort to steer many

nonviolent offenders away from prison.

Obama courted blue collar workers in Indiana with a proposal that

company shareholders have a say in how much executives get paid.

Income inequality is a hot button issue with audiences, and Obama is

seeking votes in the more economically distressed regions of Indiana,

which has its primary May 6.

According to the latest Associated Press tally, Obama leads Clinton in

the delegate count 1,639-1,503, including superdelegates - party

elders and elected officials who can vote for whichever candidate they

chose, regardless of the popular vote in state primaries and caucuses.

Neither candidate will be able to clinch the 2,025 delegates needed to

win the nomination without the approval of superdelegates.

A new poll Friday said that Obama leads Clinton by nine points, 51

percent to 42 percent. The Gallup Poll had a margin of sampling error

of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

McCain, who was campaigning in Texas on Friday, is benefiting from a

bounce in the polls since he essentially clinched the Republican

nomination a month ago. The former Vietnam prisoner of war has slowly

moved up in matchups with each of the Democratic candidates,

particularly Obama.

The veteran senator defended his latest plan to help some homeowners,

denying it was a reversal of his earlier opposition to aggressive

intervention by the government.

On Thursday, McCain proposed to help 200,000 to 400,000 homeowners

trade burdensome mortgages for manageable loans, a plan that would

cost up to US$10 billion (6.32 billion).

Clinton and Obama argued that McCain was flip-flopping. Last month, he

said he preferred only limited intervention and letting market forces

play out, drawing criticism that he was indifferent to Americans

facing foreclosures.

McCain said their criticism was "just factually incorrect."

"I said there shouldn't be a broad government bailout," he told

reporters Friday in Dallas.

On Apr 12, 6:53 am, rodney...@hotmail.com wrote:

Obama is right. People ARE fed up with Washington.

It is the core message of his campaign.

If anyone thinks this is elitist, fine because,

come November, the vast majority of the American

voters are going to be elitists.

Attempt number 344 to smear Obama... FAILED.

Next?

Citizen Jimserac

MORE Tax cuts, Anyone? (Guffaws)

On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:50:26 -0700 (PDT), Citizen Jimserac

<Jimserac@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Apr 12, 6:53 am, rodney...@hotmail.com wrote:

>

>

>Obama is right. People ARE fed up with Washington.

>It is the core message of his campaign.

>

>If anyone thinks this is elitist, fine because,

>come November, the vast majority of the American

>voters are going to be elitists.

>

>Attempt number 344 to smear Obama... FAILED.

>

>Next?

dullards like you are bound to support obarmy...it's what

emotional young groupies do.....

there are always fools who will buy into empty rubbish

the only problem is making enuf more intelligent and stable

people understand just who obarmy is.....

that isn't 'smearing'....that is informing....

no-one is interested in convincing fools....

it is a truism that one cannot put sense into the head of a fool...

--

web site at http://www.abelard.org - news comment service, logic, economics

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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry

the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick.

good people do nothing [] trust actions not words

only when it's funny -- roger rabbit

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

On Apr 12, 6:53 am, rodney...@hotmail.com wrote:

> This guy is so arrogant, he looks down his nose at the average

> American,

> he associates with black radicals and others with terrorist ties, he

> is not

> fit to hold any political office let alone the Presidency.

>

> As dangerous as Hillary is, she would be a safer choice than this bum!

>

> Barack Obama, under fire, restates that some US voters are bitter over

> economic inequalities

> By JIM KUHNHENN,AP

> Posted: 2008-04-12 05:01:26

> TERRE HAUTE, Indiana (AP) - In the midst of an assault from his

> rivals, a defensive Barack Obama said that many working-class

> Americans are angry and bitter over economic inequalities and have

> lost faith in Washington - and, as a result, vote on the basis of

> other issues such as gun protections or gay marriage.

>

> The U.S. Democratic presidential candidate's analysis of what

> motivates working-class voters came after chief rival Hillary Rodham

> Clinton accused him of looking down on such voters. Clinton rebuked

> Obama on Friday for similar remarks he made privately April 6 to a

> group of donors in San Francisco.

>

> "People don't vote on economic issues because they don't expect

> anybody is going to help them," Obama told a crowd at a Terre Haute,

> Indiana, high school Friday evening. "So people end up voting on

> issues like guns and are they going to have the right to bear arms.

> They vote on issues like gay marriage. They take refuge in their faith

> and their community, and their family, and the things they can count

> on. But they don't believe they can count on Washington."

>

> The Huffington Post Web site reported Friday that the Illinois

> senator, speaking of some Pennsylvanians' economic anxieties, told

> supporters at the San Francisco fundraiser: "You go into these small

> towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest,

> the jobs have been gone now for 25 years. ... And it's not surprising

> then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to

> people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade

> sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

>

> In Terre Haute, Obama said he did describe some voters as bitter when

> a donor asked why working-class voters in Pennsylvania were not

> getting behind his campaign.

>

> "Well, that's not my experience," Clinton told a Drexel University

> crowd, describing the state's residents as resilient, optimistic and

> hardworking.

>

> "Pennsylvanians don't need a president who looks down on them," she

> said. "They need a president who stands up for them."

>

> Steve Schmidt, a spokesman for Republican candidate John McCain,

> described Obama's comments as "condescending" and "out of touch."

>

> In Terre Haute, Obama chided McCain for not responding promptly to the

> home mortgage crisis and criticized Clinton for voting for a

> bankruptcy bill supported by credit card companies.

>

> "No, I'm IN touch," he said. "I know exactly what's going on. People

> are fed up, they are angry, they're frustrated and they're bitter. And

> they want to see a change in Washington."

>

> Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said Friday night, "Instead of

> apologizing for offending small-town America, Sen. Obama chose to

> repeat and embrace the comments he made earlier this week."

>

> Tucker Bounds, a spokesman for McCain, said Friday: "Only an elitist

> would say that people vote their values only out of frustration. ...

> You can't be more out of touch than that."

>

> Clinton unveiled an ambitious anti-crime plan, addressing an issue

> that has so far not been a major factor in the presidential campaign,

> but that might sway some voters in the important primary state of

> Pennsylvania.

>

> The former first lady outlined her proposal Friday in a speech in

> Philadelphia, Pennsylvania's biggest city and one hit hard by a murder

> rate that has averaged more than one a day for the last several years.

>

> Clinton is counting on the state's April 22 vote to deliver a big win

> over front-runner Obama and help keep her in the race. She trails her

> rival in delegates, the popular vote, and the number of states won.

>

> Clinton proposed spending US$4 billion (2.5 billion) a year on anti-

> crime measures, including programs to reduce the number of ex-convicts

> who return to prison. The money also would help communities hire more

> police officers and "community-oriented prosecutors."

>

> Clinton also proposed eliminating the federal mandatory five-year

> sentence for crack cocaine users as part of an effort to steer many

> nonviolent offenders away from prison.

>

> Obama courted blue collar workers in Indiana with a proposal that

> company shareholders have a say in how much executives get paid.

> Income inequality is a hot button issue with audiences, and Obama is

> seeking votes in the more economically distressed regions of Indiana,

> which has its primary May 6.

>

> According to the latest Associated Press tally, Obama leads Clinton in

> the delegate count 1,639-1,503, including superdelegates - party

> elders and elected officials who can vote for whichever candidate they

> chose, regardless of the popular vote in state primaries and caucuses.

>

> Neither candidate will be able to clinch the 2,025 delegates needed to

> win the nomination without the approval of superdelegates.

>

> A new poll Friday said that Obama leads Clinton by nine points, 51

> percent to 42 percent. The Gallup Poll had a margin of sampling error

> of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

>

> McCain, who was campaigning in Texas on Friday, is benefiting from a

> bounce in the polls since he essentially clinched the Republican

> nomination a month ago. The former Vietnam prisoner of war has slowly

> moved up in matchups with each of the Democratic candidates,

> particularly Obama.

>

> The veteran senator defended his latest plan to help some homeowners,

> denying it was a reversal of his earlier opposition to aggressive

> intervention by the government.

>

> On Thursday, McCain proposed to help 200,000 to 400,000 homeowners

> trade burdensome mortgages for manageable loans, a plan that would

> cost up to US$10 billion (6.32 billion).

>

> Clinton and Obama argued that McCain was flip-flopping. Last month, he

> said he preferred only limited intervention and letting market forces

> play out, drawing criticism that he was indifferent to Americans

> facing foreclosures.

>

> McCain said their criticism was "just factually incorrect."

>

> "I said there shouldn't be a broad government bailout," he told

> reporters Friday in Dallas.

Wow! Obama says what everyone thinks...and says (unless they're a

politician)...and hocus, pocus, the Cock-a-Roaches desperately try to

create a scandal to bring the Big Guy down. Sorry Fellas...get used

to President OBAMA!!!......or...as the SlimMerchants will call him...

President HUSSEIN!!! Yeahh!!! I like the sound of the latter

better...gonna cause alotta meltdowns for the racists, bigots, and

ignorant ie. the Republican Base.

eric.

"abelard" <abelard3@abelard.org> wrote in message

news:v7a104lnal6hrpin8cljva6rbhojmku992@4ax.com...

> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:50:26 -0700 (PDT), Citizen Jimserac

> <Jimserac@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>>On Apr 12, 6:53 am, rodney...@hotmail.com wrote:

>>

>>

>>Obama is right. People ARE fed up with Washington.

>>It is the core message of his campaign.

>>

>>If anyone thinks this is elitist, fine because,

>>come November, the vast majority of the American

>>voters are going to be elitists.

>>

>>Attempt number 344 to smear Obama... FAILED.

>>

>>Next?

>

> dullards like you

I can't imagine an idiot who counts every word and line and records them

meticulously is anything but a shadow of a real man who leads a very dull

stuffy lifestyle.

Obama isn't the best candidate America could've produced, but his

personality is hardly dull...like your's.

Now, you best get back to calculating how many lines and words (albeit you

apparently skip counting characters), and keep dreaming about how we're all

so intensely interested in what you think about anything.

So...how many words and lines did I fill this space with?

And when was the last time you fucked a woman?

LOL!

are bound to support obarmy...it's what

> emotional young groupies do.....

> there are always fools who will buy into empty rubbish

>

> the only problem is making enuf more intelligent and stable

> people understand just who obarmy is.....

> that isn't 'smearing'....that is informing....

>

> no-one is interested in convincing fools....

> it is a truism that one cannot put sense into the head of a fool...

>

> --

> web site at http://www.abelard.org - news comment service, logic, economics

> energy, education, politics, etc 1,552,396 document calls in year past

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry

> the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick.

> good people do nothing [] trust actions not words

> only when it's funny -- roger rabbit

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"eric" <ericdavis500@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:7999a3a2-a573-49a2-91c1-cf75e17873a4@y18g2000pre.googlegroups.com...

> On Apr 12, 6:53 am, rodney...@hotmail.com wrote:

>> This guy is so arrogant, he looks down his nose at the average

>> American,

>> he associates with black radicals and others with terrorist ties, he

>> is not

>> fit to hold any political office let alone the Presidency.

>>

>> As dangerous as Hillary is, she would be a safer choice than this bum!

>>

>> Barack Obama, under fire, restates that some US voters are bitter over

>> economic inequalities

>> By JIM KUHNHENN,AP

>> Posted: 2008-04-12 05:01:26

>> TERRE HAUTE, Indiana (AP) - In the midst of an assault from his

>> rivals, a defensive Barack Obama said that many working-class

>> Americans are angry and bitter over economic inequalities and have

>> lost faith in Washington - and, as a result, vote on the basis of

>> other issues such as gun protections or gay marriage.

>>

>> The U.S. Democratic presidential candidate's analysis of what

>> motivates working-class voters came after chief rival Hillary Rodham

>> Clinton accused him of looking down on such voters. Clinton rebuked

>> Obama on Friday for similar remarks he made privately April 6 to a

>> group of donors in San Francisco.

>>

>> "People don't vote on economic issues because they don't expect

>> anybody is going to help them," Obama told a crowd at a Terre Haute,

>> Indiana, high school Friday evening. "So people end up voting on

>> issues like guns and are they going to have the right to bear arms.

>> They vote on issues like gay marriage. They take refuge in their faith

>> and their community, and their family, and the things they can count

>> on. But they don't believe they can count on Washington."

>>

>> The Huffington Post Web site reported Friday that the Illinois

>> senator, speaking of some Pennsylvanians' economic anxieties, told

>> supporters at the San Francisco fundraiser: "You go into these small

>> towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest,

>> the jobs have been gone now for 25 years. ... And it's not surprising

>> then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to

>> people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade

>> sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

>>

>> In Terre Haute, Obama said he did describe some voters as bitter when

>> a donor asked why working-class voters in Pennsylvania were not

>> getting behind his campaign.

>>

>> "Well, that's not my experience," Clinton told a Drexel University

>> crowd, describing the state's residents as resilient, optimistic and

>> hardworking.

>>

>> "Pennsylvanians don't need a president who looks down on them," she

>> said. "They need a president who stands up for them."

>>

>> Steve Schmidt, a spokesman for Republican candidate John McCain,

>> described Obama's comments as "condescending" and "out of touch."

>>

>> In Terre Haute, Obama chided McCain for not responding promptly to the

>> home mortgage crisis and criticized Clinton for voting for a

>> bankruptcy bill supported by credit card companies.

>>

>> "No, I'm IN touch," he said. "I know exactly what's going on. People

>> are fed up, they are angry, they're frustrated and they're bitter. And

>> they want to see a change in Washington."

>>

>> Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said Friday night, "Instead of

>> apologizing for offending small-town America, Sen. Obama chose to

>> repeat and embrace the comments he made earlier this week."

>>

>> Tucker Bounds, a spokesman for McCain, said Friday: "Only an elitist

>> would say that people vote their values only out of frustration. ...

>> You can't be more out of touch than that."

>>

>> Clinton unveiled an ambitious anti-crime plan, addressing an issue

>> that has so far not been a major factor in the presidential campaign,

>> but that might sway some voters in the important primary state of

>> Pennsylvania.

>>

>> The former first lady outlined her proposal Friday in a speech in

>> Philadelphia, Pennsylvania's biggest city and one hit hard by a murder

>> rate that has averaged more than one a day for the last several years.

>>

>> Clinton is counting on the state's April 22 vote to deliver a big win

>> over front-runner Obama and help keep her in the race. She trails her

>> rival in delegates, the popular vote, and the number of states won.

>>

>> Clinton proposed spending US$4 billion (2.5 billion) a year on anti-

>> crime measures, including programs to reduce the number of ex-convicts

>> who return to prison. The money also would help communities hire more

>> police officers and "community-oriented prosecutors."

>>

>> Clinton also proposed eliminating the federal mandatory five-year

>> sentence for crack cocaine users as part of an effort to steer many

>> nonviolent offenders away from prison.

>>

>> Obama courted blue collar workers in Indiana with a proposal that

>> company shareholders have a say in how much executives get paid.

>> Income inequality is a hot button issue with audiences, and Obama is

>> seeking votes in the more economically distressed regions of Indiana,

>> which has its primary May 6.

>>

>> According to the latest Associated Press tally, Obama leads Clinton in

>> the delegate count 1,639-1,503, including superdelegates - party

>> elders and elected officials who can vote for whichever candidate they

>> chose, regardless of the popular vote in state primaries and caucuses.

>>

>> Neither candidate will be able to clinch the 2,025 delegates needed to

>> win the nomination without the approval of superdelegates.

>>

>> A new poll Friday said that Obama leads Clinton by nine points, 51

>> percent to 42 percent. The Gallup Poll had a margin of sampling error

>> of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

>>

>> McCain, who was campaigning in Texas on Friday, is benefiting from a

>> bounce in the polls since he essentially clinched the Republican

>> nomination a month ago. The former Vietnam prisoner of war has slowly

>> moved up in matchups with each of the Democratic candidates,

>> particularly Obama.

>>

>> The veteran senator defended his latest plan to help some homeowners,

>> denying it was a reversal of his earlier opposition to aggressive

>> intervention by the government.

>>

>> On Thursday, McCain proposed to help 200,000 to 400,000 homeowners

>> trade burdensome mortgages for manageable loans, a plan that would

>> cost up to US$10 billion (6.32 billion).

>>

>> Clinton and Obama argued that McCain was flip-flopping. Last month, he

>> said he preferred only limited intervention and letting market forces

>> play out, drawing criticism that he was indifferent to Americans

>> facing foreclosures.

>>

>> McCain said their criticism was "just factually incorrect."

>>

>> "I said there shouldn't be a broad government bailout," he told

>> reporters Friday in Dallas.

>

> Wow! Obama says what everyone thinks...and says (unless they're a

> politician)...and hocus, pocus, the Cock-a-Roaches desperately try to

> create a scandal to bring the Big Guy down. Sorry Fellas...get used

> to President OBAMA!!!......or...as the SlimMerchants will call him...

> President HUSSEIN!!! Yeahh!!! I like the sound of the latter

> better...gonna cause alotta meltdowns for the racists, bigots, and

> ignorant ie. the Republican Base.

>

> eric.

I fear a gutsy aggressive version of these contemptible cowardly right-wing

resident barnacles, VOR, APelard, and Rod, will kill the man before long.

These weasels and gerbils are busy now assassinating him with slurs,

insinuations, accusations, rumors, and spreading as much fear manure as they

can shovel with their sweaty sticky hands.

They're pissed and scared, eric. Just a bunch of ol' cunts wearing tattered

jockstraps, picking their noses, snobbish, and stupid, gathering up any

"facts" they can find to support their venom -- a poisonous mixture of

semi-closeted racism, partisan extremism, and just plain assininity brought

about partly by terminal boredom.

Let 'em snap their scratchy ol' bra straps in protest ... America is

shifting back to liberalism for awhile and there's nothing they can do to

halt it. Denigrate the public figures leading it, yes, but who but their own

radical kind cares what they blather?

I know Obama will be good for America. If he's worse than what these ol'

biddies have been supporting for the last 7 years (or longer), I'd fall over

fucking dead from shock.

Doc )~

On Apr 12, 6:02 pm, "Docrodile" <cmdr.l...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>

> news:7999a3a2-a573-49a2-91c1-cf75e17873a4@y18g2000pre.googlegroups.com...

>

>

>

> > On Apr 12, 6:53 am, rodney...@hotmail.com wrote:

> >> This guy is so arrogant, he looks down his nose at the average

> >> American,

> >> he associates with black radicals and others with terrorist ties, he

> >> is not

> >> fit to hold any political office let alone the Presidency.

>

> >> As dangerous as Hillary is, she would be a safer choice than this bum!

>

> >> Barack Obama, under fire, restates that some US voters are bitter over

> >> economic inequalities

> >> By JIM KUHNHENN,AP

> >> Posted: 2008-04-12 05:01:26

> >> TERRE HAUTE, Indiana (AP) - In the midst of an assault from his

> >> rivals, a defensive Barack Obama said that many working-class

> >> Americans are angry and bitter over economic inequalities and have

> >> lost faith in Washington - and, as a result, vote on the basis of

> >> other issues such as gun protections or gay marriage.

>

> >> The U.S. Democratic presidential candidate's analysis of what

> >> motivates working-class voters came after chief rival Hillary Rodham

> >> Clinton accused him of looking down on such voters. Clinton rebuked

> >> Obama on Friday for similar remarks he made privately April 6 to a

> >> group of donors in San Francisco.

>

> >> "People don't vote on economic issues because they don't expect

> >> anybody is going to help them," Obama told a crowd at a Terre Haute,

> >> Indiana, high school Friday evening. "So people end up voting on

> >> issues like guns and are they going to have the right to bear arms.

> >> They vote on issues like gay marriage. They take refuge in their faith

> >> and their community, and their family, and the things they can count

> >> on. But they don't believe they can count on Washington."

>

> >> The Huffington Post Web site reported Friday that the Illinois

> >> senator, speaking of some Pennsylvanians' economic anxieties, told

> >> supporters at the San Francisco fundraiser: "You go into these small

> >> towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest,

> >> the jobs have been gone now for 25 years. ... And it's not surprising

> >> then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to

> >> people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade

> >> sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

>

> >> In Terre Haute, Obama said he did describe some voters as bitter when

> >> a donor asked why working-class voters in Pennsylvania were not

> >> getting behind his campaign.

>

> >> "Well, that's not my experience," Clinton told a Drexel University

> >> crowd, describing the state's residents as resilient, optimistic and

> >> hardworking.

>

> >> "Pennsylvanians don't need a president who looks down on them," she

> >> said. "They need a president who stands up for them."

>

> >> Steve Schmidt, a spokesman for Republican candidate John McCain,

> >> described Obama's comments as "condescending" and "out of touch."

>

> >> In Terre Haute, Obama chided McCain for not responding promptly to the

> >> home mortgage crisis and criticized Clinton for voting for a

> >> bankruptcy bill supported by credit card companies.

>

> >> "No, I'm IN touch," he said. "I know exactly what's going on. People

> >> are fed up, they are angry, they're frustrated and they're bitter. And

> >> they want to see a change in Washington."

>

> >> Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said Friday night, "Instead of

> >> apologizing for offending small-town America, Sen. Obama chose to

> >> repeat and embrace the comments he made earlier this week."

>

> >> Tucker Bounds, a spokesman for McCain, said Friday: "Only an elitist

> >> would say that people vote their values only out of frustration. ...

> >> You can't be more out of touch than that."

>

> >> Clinton unveiled an ambitious anti-crime plan, addressing an issue

> >> that has so far not been a major factor in the presidential campaign,

> >> but that might sway some voters in the important primary state of

> >> Pennsylvania.

>

> >> The former first lady outlined her proposal Friday in a speech in

> >> Philadelphia, Pennsylvania's biggest city and one hit hard by a murder

> >> rate that has averaged more than one a day for the last several years.

>

> >> Clinton is counting on the state's April 22 vote to deliver a big win

> >> over front-runner Obama and help keep her in the race. She trails her

> >> rival in delegates, the popular vote, and the number of states won.

>

> >> Clinton proposed spending US$4 billion (2.5 billion) a year on anti-

> >> crime measures, including programs to reduce the number of ex-convicts

> >> who return to prison. The money also would help communities hire more

> >> police officers and "community-oriented prosecutors."

>

> >> Clinton also proposed eliminating the federal mandatory five-year

> >> sentence for crack cocaine users as part of an effort to steer many

> >> nonviolent offenders away from prison.

>

> >> Obama courted blue collar workers in Indiana with a proposal that

> >> company shareholders have a say in how much executives get paid.

> >> Income inequality is a hot button issue with audiences, and Obama is

> >> seeking votes in the more economically distressed regions of Indiana,

> >> which has its primary May 6.

>

> >> According to the latest Associated Press tally, Obama leads Clinton in

> >> the delegate count 1,639-1,503, including superdelegates - party

> >> elders and elected officials who can vote for whichever candidate they

> >> chose, regardless of the popular vote in state primaries and caucuses.

>

> >> Neither candidate will be able to clinch the 2,025 delegates needed to

> >> win the nomination without the approval of superdelegates.

>

> >> A new poll Friday said that Obama leads Clinton by nine points, 51

> >> percent to 42 percent. The Gallup Poll had a margin of sampling error

> >> of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

>

> >> McCain, who was campaigning in Texas on Friday, is benefiting from a

> >> bounce in the polls since he essentially clinched the Republican

> >> nomination a month ago. The former Vietnam prisoner of war has slowly

> >> moved up in matchups with each of the Democratic candidates,

> >> particularly Obama.

>

> >> The veteran senator defended his latest plan to help some homeowners,

> >> denying it was a reversal of his earlier opposition to aggressive

> >> intervention by the government.

>

> >> On Thursday, McCain proposed to help 200,000 to 400,000 homeowners

> >> trade burdensome mortgages for manageable loans, a plan that would

> >> cost up to US$10 billion (6.32 billion).

>

> >> Clinton and Obama argued that McCain was flip-flopping. Last month, he

> >> said he preferred only limited intervention and letting market forces

> >> play out, drawing criticism that he was indifferent to Americans

> >> facing foreclosures.

>

> >> McCain said their criticism was "just factually incorrect."

>

> >> "I said there shouldn't be a broad government bailout," he told

> >> reporters Friday in Dallas.

>

> > Wow! Obama says what everyone thinks...and says (unless they're a

> > politician)...and hocus, pocus, the Cock-a-Roaches desperately try to

> > create a scandal to bring the Big Guy down. Sorry Fellas...get used

> > to President OBAMA!!!......or...as the SlimMerchants will call him...

> > President HUSSEIN!!! Yeahh!!! I like the sound of the latter

> > better...gonna cause alotta meltdowns for the racists, bigots, and

> > ignorant ie. the Republican Base.

>

> > eric.

>

> I fear a gutsy aggressive version of these contemptible cowardly right-wing

> resident barnacles, VOR, APelard, and Rod, will kill the man before long.

> These weasels and gerbils are busy now assassinating him with slurs,

> insinuations, accusations, rumors, and spreading as much fear manure as they

> can shovel with their sweaty sticky hands.

> They're pissed and scared, eric. Just a bunch of ol' cunts wearing tattered

> jockstraps, picking their noses, snobbish, and stupid, gathering up any

> "facts" they can find to support their venom -- a poisonous mixture of

> semi-closeted racism, partisan extremism, and just plain assininity brought

> about partly by terminal boredom.

> Let 'em snap their scratchy ol' bra straps in protest ... America is

> shifting back to liberalism for awhile and there's nothing they can do to

> halt it. Denigrate the public figures leading it, yes, but who but their own

> radical kind cares what they blather?

> I know Obama will be good for America. If he's worse than what these ol'

> biddies have been supporting for the last 7 years (or longer), I'd fall over

> fucking dead from shock.

>

> Doc )~

Agreed. A new day is dawning, and the only thing that is going to

stop Obama is a bullet.

"abelard" <abelard3@abelard.org> wrote in message

news:v7a104lnal6hrpin8cljva6rbhojmku992@4ax.com...

> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:50:26 -0700 (PDT), Citizen Jimserac

> <Jimserac@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>>On Apr 12, 6:53 am, rodney...@hotmail.com wrote:

>>

>>

>>Obama is right. People ARE fed up with Washington.

>>It is the core message of his campaign.

>>

>>If anyone thinks this is elitist, fine because,

>>come November, the vast majority of the American

>>voters are going to be elitists.

>>

>>Attempt number 344 to smear Obama... FAILED.

>>

>>Next?

>

> dullards like you are bound to support obarmy...it's what

> emotional young groupies do.....

> there are always fools who will buy into empty rubbish

>

> the only problem is making enuf more intelligent and stable

> people understand just who obarmy is.....

> that isn't 'smearing'....that is informing....

>

> no-one is interested in convincing fools....

> it is a truism that one cannot put sense into the head of a fool...

>

> --

> web site at http://www.abelard.org - news comment service, logic, economics

> energy, education, politics, etc 1,552,396 document calls in year past

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry

> the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick.

> good people do nothing [] trust actions not words

> only when it's funny -- roger rabbit

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Do not be fooled so easy.

The office of the presidency is cut and dried long

before we even go to the poles to vote.

On Apr 12, 8:23 am, abelard <abela...@abelard.org> wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry

> the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick.

> good people do nothing [] trust actions not words

> only when it's funny -- roger rabbit

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"THERE IS NOTHING TO FEAR BUT FEAR ITSELF"

Franklin Delano Roosevelt

On Apr 13, 5:54 am, "Mistylein" <yardhol...@charter.net> wrote:

> "abelard" <abela...@abelard.org> wrote in message

>

> news:v7a104lnal6hrpin8cljva6rbhojmku992@4ax.com...

>

> > On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:50:26 -0700 (PDT), CitizenJimserac

> > <Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> >>On Apr 12, 6:53 am, rodney...@hotmail.com wrote:

>

> >>Obama is right. People ARE fed up with Washington.

> >>It is the core message of his campaign.

>

> >>If anyone thinks this is elitist, fine because,

> >>come November, the vast majority of the American

> >>voters are going to be elitists.

>

> >>Attempt number 344 to smear Obama... FAILED.

>

> >>Next?

>

> > dullards like you are bound to support obarmy...it's what

> > emotional young groupies do.....

> > there are always fools who will buy into empty rubbish

>

> > the only problem is making enuf more intelligent and stable

> > people understand just who obarmy is.....

> > that isn't 'smearing'....that is informing....

>

> > no-one is interested in convincing fools....

> > it is a truism that one cannot put sense into the head of a fool...

>

> > --

> > web site atwww.abelard.org- news comment service, logic, economics

> > energy, education, politics, etc 1,552,396 document calls in year past

> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry

> > the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick.

> > good people do nothing [] trust actions not words

> > only when it's funny -- roger rabbit

> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Do not be fooled so easy.

>

> The office of the presidency is cut and dried long

> before we even go to the poles to vote.

Don't be so sure.

The moment we shut off the TV, cast aside the newpaper, ignore the

smears and think for ourselves, it's sends shockwaves to Washington

because we're not supposed to do that.

Citizen Jimserac

On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 04:43:34 -0700 (PDT), in uk.politics.misc, in

thread Re: Obama insults small town America, Citizen Jimserac

<Jimserac@gmail.com>, wrote

>On Apr 12, 8:23 am, abelard <abela...@abelard.org> wrote:

>

>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry

>> the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick.

>> good people do nothing [] trust actions not words

>> only when it's funny -- roger rabbit

>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

>"THERE IS NOTHING TO FEAR BUT FEAR ITSELF"

>Franklin Delano Roosevelt

Hey wait......! You used his middle name...........

Like:

William Jefferson Clinton

Richard Milhaus Nixon

Warren Gamaliel Harding (i actually use that one)

James Earl Carter

Hillary Rodham Clinton

Barack Hussein Obama

FACE

On Apr 13, 12:05 am, eric <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 12, 6:02 pm, "Docrodile" <cmdr.l...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>

>

> > "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>

> >news:7999a3a2-a573-49a2-91c1-cf75e17873a4@y18g2000pre.googlegroups.com...

>

> > > On Apr 12, 6:53 am, rodney...@hotmail.com wrote:

> > >> This guy is so arrogant, he looks down his nose at the average

> > >> American,

> > >> he associates with black radicals and others with terrorist ties, he

> > >> is not

> > >> fit to hold any political office let alone the Presidency.

>

> > >> As dangerous as Hillary is, she would be a safer choice than this bum!

>

> > >> Barack Obama, under fire, restates that some US voters are bitter over

> > >> economic inequalities

> > >> By JIM KUHNHENN,AP

> > >> Posted: 2008-04-12 05:01:26

> > >> TERRE HAUTE, Indiana (AP) - In the midst of an assault from his

> > >> rivals, a defensive Barack Obama said that many working-class

> > >> Americans are angry and bitter over economic inequalities and have

> > >> lost faith in Washington - and, as a result, vote on the basis of

> > >> other issues such as gun protections or gay marriage.

>

> > >> The U.S. Democratic presidential candidate's analysis of what

> > >> motivates working-class voters came after chief rival Hillary Rodham

> > >> Clinton accused him of looking down on such voters. Clinton rebuked

> > >> Obama on Friday for similar remarks he made privately April 6 to a

> > >> group of donors in San Francisco.

>

> > >> "People don't vote on economic issues because they don't expect

> > >> anybody is going to help them," Obama told a crowd at a Terre Haute,

> > >> Indiana, high school Friday evening. "So people end up voting on

> > >> issues like guns and are they going to have the right to bear arms.

> > >> They vote on issues like gay marriage. They take refuge in their faith

> > >> and their community, and their family, and the things they can count

> > >> on. But they don't believe they can count on Washington."

>

> > >> The Huffington Post Web site reported Friday that the Illinois

> > >> senator, speaking of some Pennsylvanians' economic anxieties, told

> > >> supporters at the San Francisco fundraiser: "You go into these small

> > >> towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest,

> > >> the jobs have been gone now for 25 years. ... And it's not surprising

> > >> then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to

> > >> people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade

> > >> sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

>

> > >> In Terre Haute, Obama said he did describe some voters as bitter when

> > >> a donor asked why working-class voters in Pennsylvania were not

> > >> getting behind his campaign.

>

> > >> "Well, that's not my experience," Clinton told a Drexel University

> > >> crowd, describing the state's residents as resilient, optimistic and

> > >> hardworking.

>

> > >> "Pennsylvanians don't need a president who looks down on them," she

> > >> said. "They need a president who stands up for them."

>

> > >> Steve Schmidt, a spokesman for Republican candidate John McCain,

> > >> described Obama's comments as "condescending" and "out of touch."

>

> > >> In Terre Haute, Obama chided McCain for not responding promptly to the

> > >> home mortgage crisis and criticized Clinton for voting for a

> > >> bankruptcy bill supported by credit card companies.

>

> > >> "No, I'm IN touch," he said. "I know exactly what's going on. People

> > >> are fed up, they are angry, they're frustrated and they're bitter. And

> > >> they want to see a change in Washington."

>

> > >> Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said Friday night, "Instead of

> > >> apologizing for offending small-town America, Sen. Obama chose to

> > >> repeat and embrace the comments he made earlier this week."

>

> > >> Tucker Bounds, a spokesman for McCain, said Friday: "Only an elitist

> > >> would say that people vote their values only out of frustration. ...

> > >> You can't be more out of touch than that."

>

> > >> Clinton unveiled an ambitious anti-crime plan, addressing an issue

> > >> that has so far not been a major factor in the presidential campaign,

> > >> but that might sway some voters in the important primary state of

> > >> Pennsylvania.

>

> > >> The former first lady outlined her proposal Friday in a speech in

> > >> Philadelphia, Pennsylvania's biggest city and one hit hard by a murder

> > >> rate that has averaged more than one a day for the last several years.

>

> > >> Clinton is counting on the state's April 22 vote to deliver a big win

> > >> over front-runner Obama and help keep her in the race. She trails her

> > >> rival in delegates, the popular vote, and the number of states won.

>

> > >> Clinton proposed spending US$4 billion (2.5 billion) a year on anti-

> > >> crime measures, including programs to reduce the number of ex-convicts

> > >> who return to prison. The money also would help communities hire more

> > >> police officers and "community-oriented prosecutors."

>

> > >> Clinton also proposed eliminating the federal mandatory five-year

> > >> sentence for crack cocaine users as part of an effort to steer many

> > >> nonviolent offenders away from prison.

>

> > >> Obama courted blue collar workers in Indiana with a proposal that

> > >> company shareholders have a say in how much executives get paid.

> > >> Income inequality is a hot button issue with audiences, and Obama is

> > >> seeking votes in the more economically distressed regions of Indiana,

> > >> which has its primary May 6.

>

> > >> According to the latest Associated Press tally, Obama leads Clinton in

> > >> the delegate count 1,639-1,503, including superdelegates - party

> > >> elders and elected officials who can vote for whichever candidate they

> > >> chose, regardless of the popular vote in state primaries and caucuses.

>

> > >> Neither candidate will be able to clinch the 2,025 delegates needed to

> > >> win the nomination without the approval of superdelegates.

>

> > >> A new poll Friday said that Obama leads Clinton by nine points, 51

> > >> percent to 42 percent. The Gallup Poll had a margin of sampling error

> > >> of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

>

> > >> McCain, who was campaigning in Texas on Friday, is benefiting from a

> > >> bounce in the polls since he essentially clinched the Republican

> > >> nomination a month ago. The former Vietnam prisoner of war has slowly

> > >> moved up in matchups with each of the Democratic candidates,

> > >> particularly Obama.

>

> > >> The veteran senator defended his latest plan to help some homeowners,

> > >> denying it was a reversal of his earlier opposition to aggressive

> > >> intervention by the government.

>

> > >> On Thursday, McCain proposed to help 200,000 to 400,000 homeowners

> > >> trade burdensome mortgages for manageable loans, a plan that would

> > >> cost up to US$10 billion (6.32 billion).

>

> > >> Clinton and Obama argued that McCain was flip-flopping. Last month, he

> > >> said he preferred only limited intervention and letting market forces

> > >> play out, drawing criticism that he was indifferent to Americans

> > >> facing foreclosures.

>

> > >> McCain said their criticism was "just factually incorrect."

>

> > >> "I said there shouldn't be a broad government bailout," he told

> > >> reporters Friday in Dallas.

>

> > > Wow! Obama says what everyone thinks...and says (unless they're a

> > > politician)...and hocus, pocus, the Cock-a-Roaches desperately try to

> > > create a scandal to bring the Big Guy down. Sorry Fellas...get used

> > > to President OBAMA!!!......or...as the SlimMerchants will call him...

> > > President HUSSEIN!!! Yeahh!!! I like the sound of the latter

> > > better...gonna cause alotta meltdowns for the racists, bigots, and

> > > ignorant ie. the Republican Base.

>

> > > eric.

>

> > I fear a gutsy aggressive version of these contemptible cowardly right-wing

> > resident barnacles, VOR, APelard, and Rod, will kill the man before long.

> > These weasels and gerbils are busy now assassinating him with slurs,

> > insinuations, accusations, rumors, and spreading as much fear manure as they

> > can shovel with their sweaty sticky hands.

> > They're pissed and scared, eric. Just a bunch of ol' cunts wearing tattered

> > jockstraps, picking their noses, snobbish, and stupid, gathering up any

> > "facts" they can find to support their venom -- a poisonous mixture of

> > semi-closeted racism, partisan extremism, and just plain assininity brought

> > about partly by terminal boredom.

> > Let 'em snap their scratchy ol' bra straps in protest ... America is

> > shifting back to liberalism for awhile and there's nothing they can do to

> > halt it. Denigrate the public figures leading it, yes, but who but their own

> > radical kind cares what they blather?

> > I know Obama will be good for America. If he's worse than what these ol'

> > biddies have been supporting for the last 7 years (or longer), I'd fall over

> > fucking dead from shock.

>

> > Doc )~

>

> Agreed. A new day is dawning, and the only thing that is going to

> stop Obama is a bullet.

Oh man are you ever out of touch.

I agree with you Rod, this Obama is one arrogant prick, and if the

media wasn't

in love with him he would have been finished a long time ago.

If Hillary weren't such a hated figure he would be history already.

But it just

shows how bad off the Dems are, their two best people unelectable.

rodney...@hotmail.com wrote:

> This guy is so arrogant, he looks down his nose at the average

> American,

> he associates with black radicals and others with terrorist ties, he

> is not

> fit to hold any political office let alone the Presidency.

>

> As dangerous as Hillary is, she would be a safer choice than this bum!

>

> Barack Obama, under fire, restates that some US voters are bitter over

> economic inequalities

> By JIM KUHNHENN,AP

> Posted: 2008-04-12 05:01:26

> TERRE HAUTE, Indiana (AP) - In the midst of an assault from his

> rivals, a defensive Barack Obama said that many working-class

> Americans are angry and bitter over economic inequalities and have

> lost faith in Washington - and, as a result, vote on the basis of

> other issues such as gun protections or gay marriage.

>

> The U.S. Democratic presidential candidate's analysis of what

> motivates working-class voters came after chief rival Hillary Rodham

> Clinton accused him of looking down on such voters. Clinton rebuked

> Obama on Friday for similar remarks he made privately April 6 to a

> group of donors in San Francisco.

>

> "People don't vote on economic issues because they don't expect

> anybody is going to help them," Obama told a crowd at a Terre Haute,

> Indiana, high school Friday evening. "So people end up voting on

> issues like guns and are they going to have the right to bear arms.

> They vote on issues like gay marriage. They take refuge in their faith

> and their community, and their family, and the things they can count

> on. But they don't believe they can count on Washington."

>

> The Huffington Post Web site reported Friday that the Illinois

> senator, speaking of some Pennsylvanians' economic anxieties, told

> supporters at the San Francisco fundraiser: "You go into these small

> towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest,

> the jobs have been gone now for 25 years. ... And it's not surprising

> then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to

> people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade

> sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

>

> In Terre Haute, Obama said he did describe some voters as bitter when

> a donor asked why working-class voters in Pennsylvania were not

> getting behind his campaign.

>

> "Well, that's not my experience," Clinton told a Drexel University

> crowd, describing the state's residents as resilient, optimistic and

> hardworking.

>

> "Pennsylvanians don't need a president who looks down on them," she

> said. "They need a president who stands up for them."

>

> Steve Schmidt, a spokesman for Republican candidate John McCain,

> described Obama's comments as "condescending" and "out of touch."

>

> In Terre Haute, Obama chided McCain for not responding promptly to the

> home mortgage crisis and criticized Clinton for voting for a

> bankruptcy bill supported by credit card companies.

>

> "No, I'm IN touch," he said. "I know exactly what's going on. People

> are fed up, they are angry, they're frustrated and they're bitter. And

> they want to see a change in Washington."

>

> Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said Friday night, "Instead of

> apologizing for offending small-town America, Sen. Obama chose to

> repeat and embrace the comments he made earlier this week."

>

> Tucker Bounds, a spokesman for McCain, said Friday: "Only an elitist

> would say that people vote their values only out of frustration. ...

> You can't be more out of touch than that."

>

> Clinton unveiled an ambitious anti-crime plan, addressing an issue

> that has so far not been a major factor in the presidential campaign,

> but that might sway some voters in the important primary state of

> Pennsylvania.

>

> The former first lady outlined her proposal Friday in a speech in

> Philadelphia, Pennsylvania's biggest city and one hit hard by a murder

> rate that has averaged more than one a day for the last several years.

>

> Clinton is counting on the state's April 22 vote to deliver a big win

> over front-runner Obama and help keep her in the race. She trails her

> rival in delegates, the popular vote, and the number of states won.

>

> Clinton proposed spending US$4 billion (2.5 billion) a year on anti-

> crime measures, including programs to reduce the number of ex-convicts

> who return to prison. The money also would help communities hire more

> police officers and "community-oriented prosecutors."

>

> Clinton also proposed eliminating the federal mandatory five-year

> sentence for crack cocaine users as part of an effort to steer many

> nonviolent offenders away from prison.

>

> Obama courted blue collar workers in Indiana with a proposal that

> company shareholders have a say in how much executives get paid.

> Income inequality is a hot button issue with audiences, and Obama is

> seeking votes in the more economically distressed regions of Indiana,

> which has its primary May 6.

>

> According to the latest Associated Press tally, Obama leads Clinton in

> the delegate count 1,639-1,503, including superdelegates - party

> elders and elected officials who can vote for whichever candidate they

> chose, regardless of the popular vote in state primaries and caucuses.

>

> Neither candidate will be able to clinch the 2,025 delegates needed to

> win the nomination without the approval of superdelegates.

>

> A new poll Friday said that Obama leads Clinton by nine points, 51

> percent to 42 percent. The Gallup Poll had a margin of sampling error

> of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

>

> McCain, who was campaigning in Texas on Friday, is benefiting from a

> bounce in the polls since he essentially clinched the Republican

> nomination a month ago. The former Vietnam prisoner of war has slowly

> moved up in matchups with each of the Democratic candidates,

> particularly Obama.

>

> The veteran senator defended his latest plan to help some homeowners,

> denying it was a reversal of his earlier opposition to aggressive

> intervention by the government.

>

> On Thursday, McCain proposed to help 200,000 to 400,000 homeowners

> trade burdensome mortgages for manageable loans, a plan that would

> cost up to US$10 billion (6.32 billion).

>

> Clinton and Obama argued that McCain was flip-flopping. Last month, he

> said he preferred only limited intervention and letting market forces

> play out, drawing criticism that he was indifferent to Americans

> facing foreclosures.

>

> McCain said their criticism was "just factually incorrect."

>

> "I said there shouldn't be a broad government bailout," he told

> reporters Friday in Dallas.

On Apr 13, 10:07 am, Transition Zone <mogu...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 13, 7:43 am, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> > On Apr 12, 8:23 am, abelard <abela...@abelard.org> wrote:

>

> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Transition Zone" <mogulah@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:8eebdd03-8039-4fe0-8d02-6eb38c09d2fd@24g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

On Apr 12, 5:50 pm, "Docrodile" <cmdr.l...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "abelard" <abela...@abelard.org> wrote in message

>

> news:v7a104lnal6hrpin8cljva6rbhojmku992@4ax.com...

>

>

>

>

>

> > On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:50:26 -0700 (PDT), Citizen Jimserac

> > <Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> >>On Apr 12, 6:53 am, rodney...@hotmail.com wrote:

>

> >>Obama is right. People ARE fed up with Washington.

> >>It is the core message of his campaign.

>

> >>If anyone thinks this is elitist, fine because,

> >>come November, the vast majority of the American

> >>voters are going to be elitists.

>

> >>Attempt number 344 to smear Obama... FAILED.

>

> >>Next?

>

> > dullards like you

>

> I can't imagine an idiot who counts every word and line and records them

> meticulously is anything but a shadow of a real man who leads a very dull

> stuffy lifestyle.

> Obama isn't the best candidate America could've produced, but his

> personality is hardly dull...like your's.

Hitler's personality wasn't too dull, either.

(your point?)

> Now, you best get back to calculating how many lines and words (albeit you

> apparently skip counting characters), and keep dreaming about how we're

> all

> so intensely interested in what you think about anything.

> So...how many words and lines did I fill this space with?

> And when was the last time you fucked a woman?

> LOL!

How about you ??

You wanna fuck me, do ya? It'll cost ya.

"eric" <ericdavis500@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:7999a3a2-a573-49a2-91c1-cf75e17873a4@y18g2000pre.googlegroups.com...

> On Apr 12, 6:53 am, rodney...@hotmail.com wrote:

>> This guy is so arrogant, he looks down his nose at the average

>> American,

>> he associates with black radicals and others with terrorist ties, he

>> is not

>> fit to hold any political office let alone the Presidency.

>>

>> As dangerous as Hillary is, she would be a safer choice than this bum!

>>

>> Barack Obama, under fire, restates that some US voters are bitter over

>> economic inequalities

>> By JIM KUHNHENN,AP

>> Posted: 2008-04-12 05:01:26

>> TERRE HAUTE, Indiana (AP) - In the midst of an assault from his

>> rivals, a defensive Barack Obama said that many working-class

>> Americans are angry and bitter over economic inequalities and have

>> lost faith in Washington - and, as a result, vote on the basis of

>> other issues such as gun protections or gay marriage.

>>

>> The U.S. Democratic presidential candidate's analysis of what

>> motivates working-class voters came after chief rival Hillary Rodham

>> Clinton accused him of looking down on such voters. Clinton rebuked

>> Obama on Friday for similar remarks he made privately April 6 to a

>> group of donors in San Francisco.

>>

>> "People don't vote on economic issues because they don't expect

>> anybody is going to help them," Obama told a crowd at a Terre Haute,

>> Indiana, high school Friday evening. "So people end up voting on

>> issues like guns and are they going to have the right to bear arms.

>> They vote on issues like gay marriage. They take refuge in their faith

>> and their community, and their family, and the things they can count

>> on. But they don't believe they can count on Washington."

>>

>> The Huffington Post Web site reported Friday that the Illinois

>> senator, speaking of some Pennsylvanians' economic anxieties, told

>> supporters at the San Francisco fundraiser: "You go into these small

>> towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest,

>> the jobs have been gone now for 25 years. ... And it's not surprising

>> then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to

>> people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade

>> sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

>>

>> In Terre Haute, Obama said he did describe some voters as bitter when

>> a donor asked why working-class voters in Pennsylvania were not

>> getting behind his campaign.

>>

>> "Well, that's not my experience," Clinton told a Drexel University

>> crowd, describing the state's residents as resilient, optimistic and

>> hardworking.

>>

>> "Pennsylvanians don't need a president who looks down on them," she

>> said. "They need a president who stands up for them."

>>

>> Steve Schmidt, a spokesman for Republican candidate John McCain,

>> described Obama's comments as "condescending" and "out of touch."

>>

>> In Terre Haute, Obama chided McCain for not responding promptly to the

>> home mortgage crisis and criticized Clinton for voting for a

>> bankruptcy bill supported by credit card companies.

>>

>> "No, I'm IN touch," he said. "I know exactly what's going on. People

>> are fed up, they are angry, they're frustrated and they're bitter. And

>> they want to see a change in Washington."

>>

>> Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said Friday night, "Instead of

>> apologizing for offending small-town America, Sen. Obama chose to

>> repeat and embrace the comments he made earlier this week."

>>

>> Tucker Bounds, a spokesman for McCain, said Friday: "Only an elitist

>> would say that people vote their values only out of frustration. ...

>> You can't be more out of touch than that."

>>

>> Clinton unveiled an ambitious anti-crime plan, addressing an issue

>> that has so far not been a major factor in the presidential campaign,

>> but that might sway some voters in the important primary state of

>> Pennsylvania.

>>

>> The former first lady outlined her proposal Friday in a speech in

>> Philadelphia, Pennsylvania's biggest city and one hit hard by a murder

>> rate that has averaged more than one a day for the last several years.

>>

>> Clinton is counting on the state's April 22 vote to deliver a big win

>> over front-runner Obama and help keep her in the race. She trails her

>> rival in delegates, the popular vote, and the number of states won.

>>

>> Clinton proposed spending US$4 billion (2.5 billion) a year on anti-

>> crime measures, including programs to reduce the number of ex-convicts

>> who return to prison. The money also would help communities hire more

>> police officers and "community-oriented prosecutors."

>>

>> Clinton also proposed eliminating the federal mandatory five-year

>> sentence for crack cocaine users as part of an effort to steer many

>> nonviolent offenders away from prison.

>>

>> Obama courted blue collar workers in Indiana with a proposal that

>> company shareholders have a say in how much executives get paid.

>> Income inequality is a hot button issue with audiences, and Obama is

>> seeking votes in the more economically distressed regions of Indiana,

>> which has its primary May 6.

>>

>> According to the latest Associated Press tally, Obama leads Clinton in

>> the delegate count 1,639-1,503, including superdelegates - party

>> elders and elected officials who can vote for whichever candidate they

>> chose, regardless of the popular vote in state primaries and caucuses.

>>

>> Neither candidate will be able to clinch the 2,025 delegates needed to

>> win the nomination without the approval of superdelegates.

>>

>> A new poll Friday said that Obama leads Clinton by nine points, 51

>> percent to 42 percent. The Gallup Poll had a margin of sampling error

>> of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

>>

>> McCain, who was campaigning in Texas on Friday, is benefiting from a

>> bounce in the polls since he essentially clinched the Republican

>> nomination a month ago. The former Vietnam prisoner of war has slowly

>> moved up in matchups with each of the Democratic candidates,

>> particularly Obama.

>>

>> The veteran senator defended his latest plan to help some homeowners,

>> denying it was a reversal of his earlier opposition to aggressive

>> intervention by the government.

>>

>> On Thursday, McCain proposed to help 200,000 to 400,000 homeowners

>> trade burdensome mortgages for manageable loans, a plan that would

>> cost up to US$10 billion (6.32 billion).

>>

>> Clinton and Obama argued that McCain was flip-flopping. Last month, he

>> said he preferred only limited intervention and letting market forces

>> play out, drawing criticism that he was indifferent to Americans

>> facing foreclosures.

>>

>> McCain said their criticism was "just factually incorrect."

>>

>> "I said there shouldn't be a broad government bailout," he told

>> reporters Friday in Dallas.

>

> Wow! Obama says what everyone thinks...and says (unless they're a

> politician)...and hocus, pocus, the Cock-a-Roaches desperately try to

> create a scandal to bring the Big Guy down. Sorry Fellas...get used

> to President OBAMA!!!......or...as the SlimMerchants will call him...

> President HUSSEIN!!! Yeahh!!! I like the sound of the latter

> better...gonna cause alotta meltdowns for the racists, bigots, and

> ignorant ie. the Republican Base.

>

> eric.

As you can see, one media hyped election-year gaff has brought out all

the...uh...patriots...and the...um...christians in a feeding frenzy. LOL!

Man, are these idiots desperate for fantasizing about how their failed

conservative leadership will make a glorious comeback this year. Jesus, it's

fun to watch 'em waddle around like dazed ducks, quacking manically.

It'll be impossible to find 'em after Nov. 4th, eric, unless of course we

overturn every rock, search every crack, open up every septic tank, search

through every sewer drain...

Doc

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 04:01:50 -0700 (PDT), in uk.politics.misc, in

thread Re: Obama insults small town America, Citizen Jimserac

<Jimserac@gmail.com>, wrote

>Citizen Jimserac

>The most idiotic "strategic" statement of all time from the

>"commander"(sic) in chief - "We've gotta stop them over there before

>they come over here".

Depending on where you may be a "citizen" of, yours is possibly the

stupidest statement I have seen.

FACE

On Apr 14, 6:51 am, voiceofrea...@torontomail.com wrote:

> On Apr 13, 12:05 am, eric <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>

>

> Oh man are you ever out of touch.

Nope, You're out of Touch

http://www.gallup.com/poll/106504/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Numbers-Holding-Strong.aspx

On Apr 14, 3:00 pm, FACE <AFaceInTheCr...@today.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 04:01:50 -0700 (PDT), in uk.politics.misc, in

> thread Re: Obama insults small town America, CitizenJimserac

> <Jimse...@gmail.com>, wrote

>

> >CitizenJimserac

> >The most idiotic "strategic" statement of all time from the

> >"commander"(sic) in chief - "We've gotta stop them over there before

> >they come over here".

>

> Depending on where you may be a "citizen" of, yours is possibly the

> stupidest statement I have seen.

>

> FACE

I'm a citizen of the United States of America and any IDIOT

like Bush who has the temerity to suggest that the war

on Iraq is going to stop terrorists from infiltrating our country and

establishing cells, particularly since they've already had

DECADES to do this, is an INSULT to the intelligence

of EVERY CITIZEN of this great country.

This is pretend war and pretend protection from terrorism, just like

the Bush pretend economy it is nonsense wrapped in good intentions

and administered by incompetent political appointees -> the same ones

that are bumbling up the FAA right now, the same ones like those

supposed to be watching out for dangerous substances in our imports,

the same ones such as the badly understaffed border patrol agencies

which were largely ignored until it became a hot political issue LATE

IN INCOMPETENT BUSH'S PRESIDENCY, the same ones that were in FEMA and

bumbled while a city was destroyed,

the same ones that waited until the last moment when a major

investment bank nearly started the next great depression,

the same ones giving out all those NO BID contracts for

the world's biggest embassy building in that country

of no strategic importance for which Bush has wasted

OVER ONE TRILLION DOLLARS OF TAXPAYERS MONEY.

As a former Republican Conservative who watched the Republican party

get hijacked by the neo-"CON" men, I am amazed

at the simplistic pap which people like you accept without question

instead of demanding a REAL WAR on terror, one that attacks Bin Laden

and his cohorts WHEREVER THEY MIGHT BE and makes ist clear to EVERY

COUNTRY ON EARTH that THERE WILL BE NO SAFE HAVEN, something little

boy Bush HAS NOT DONE.

Oh the Democrats have been in on this too, I do not spare them at all

- they have been in on the "free" trade deals from the start.

But a FEW among them, a very few, have finally had the courage

to stand up and expose the emperor's war on terrorism as the farce

that it is.

So when the "president" insults OUR INTELLIGENCE with his folksy

cracker barrel anti-intellectual nonsense coupled with his studied

and practiced PHONY TEXAS ACCENT whilst he carefully mispronounces the

word "nuclear", he will come to be regarded as the incompetent bumbler

that he is INSTEAD OF the great president that he might have been.

Citizen Jimserac

In article

<90813992-59d3-488d-a59a-17a3cd41c771@a22g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,

ericdavis500@gmail.com says...

>

>

>On Apr 14, 6:51 am, voiceofrea...@torontomail.com wrote:

>> On Apr 13, 12:05 am, eric <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>> Oh man are you ever out of touch.

>

>Nope, You're out of Touch

>

>http://www.gallup.com/poll/106504/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Numbers-Holding-Strong.a

spx

Intrade has hardly budged. Obama is by far the favorite, 80% to 17% for

Clinton and 50% over 40% for McCain in the general election. This latest flap

caused a bump but it is now past.

"Citizen Jimserac" <Jimserac@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:5e74f354-fb43-440e-b9c7-44f7e7cfbe99@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

> On Apr 14, 3:00 pm, FACE <AFaceInTheCr...@today.net> wrote:

>> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 04:01:50 -0700 (PDT), in uk.politics.misc, in

>> thread Re: Obama insults small town America, CitizenJimserac

>> <Jimse...@gmail.com>, wrote

>>

>> >CitizenJimserac

>> >The most idiotic "strategic" statement of all time from the

>> >"commander"(sic) in chief - "We've gotta stop them over there before

>> >they come over here".

>>

>> Depending on where you may be a "citizen" of, yours is possibly the

>> stupidest statement I have seen.

>>

>> FACE

>

> I'm a citizen of the United States of America and any IDIOT

> like Bush who has the temerity to suggest that the war

> on Iraq is going to stop terrorists from infiltrating our country and

> establishing cells, particularly since they've already had

> DECADES to do this, is an INSULT to the intelligence

> of EVERY CITIZEN of this great country.

So you have no idea that this great country has been prophesied

in Revelation 13:11 ??

This is not such a great Country. it is only in existance as God let's it be.

It too is doomed for distruction just as the first Beast and the Harlot and the

false prophet are destined for their demise in the Bible.

But this is all Bible prophecy that you all are not interested in knowing

about. like a lot of other majer bible studies you all love to just

pass over.

But by passing them over you only get part of Gods word working

for you.

M,

>

> This is pretend war and pretend protection from terrorism, just like

> the Bush pretend economy it is nonsense wrapped in good intentions

> and administered by incompetent political appointees -> the same ones

> that are bumbling up the FAA right now, the same ones like those

> supposed to be watching out for dangerous substances in our imports,

> the same ones such as the badly understaffed border patrol agencies

> which were largely ignored until it became a hot political issue LATE

> IN INCOMPETENT BUSH'S PRESIDENCY, the same ones that were in FEMA and

> bumbled while a city was destroyed,

> the same ones that waited until the last moment when a major

> investment bank nearly started the next great depression,

> the same ones giving out all those NO BID contracts for

> the world's biggest embassy building in that country

> of no strategic importance for which Bush has wasted

> OVER ONE TRILLION DOLLARS OF TAXPAYERS MONEY.

>

> As a former Republican Conservative who watched the Republican party

> get hijacked by the neo-"CON" men, I am amazed

> at the simplistic pap which people like you accept without question

> instead of demanding a REAL WAR on terror, one that attacks Bin Laden

> and his cohorts WHEREVER THEY MIGHT BE and makes ist clear to EVERY

> COUNTRY ON EARTH that THERE WILL BE NO SAFE HAVEN, something little

> boy Bush HAS NOT DONE.

>

> Oh the Democrats have been in on this too, I do not spare them at all

> - they have been in on the "free" trade deals from the start.

> But a FEW among them, a very few, have finally had the courage

> to stand up and expose the emperor's war on terrorism as the farce

> that it is.

>

> So when the "president" insults OUR INTELLIGENCE with his folksy

> cracker barrel anti-intellectual nonsense coupled with his studied

> and practiced PHONY TEXAS ACCENT whilst he carefully mispronounces the

> word "nuclear", he will come to be regarded as the incompetent bumbler

> that he is INSTEAD OF the great president that he might have been.

>

> Citizen Jimserac