ImWithStupid Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Obama’s Moratorium Disaster: “Tens of Thousands� on Gulf Coast Will Lose Their Jobs Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, June 10, 2010, 12:05 PM An a$ to kick? On May 27, President Obama instituted a six-month moratorium on all drilling in water depths greater than 500 feet and stopped work on 33 Gulf deepwater exploration rigs, except under special circumstances. The president’s decision will force tens of thousands of Gulf Coast employees to lose their jobs. EnergyTomorrow Blog posted this information today: Several organizations have offered estimates of the drilling moratorium’s impact on consumers, the U.S. oil and natural industry, and the nation’s energy security: [ ]Adam Sieminski of Deutsche Bank predicted that U.S. oil production could fall by 160,000 barrels of oil per day by next year. (Financial Times) [ ]Bernstein Research said delays from the moratorium and rising costs stemming from new safety regulations are likely to raise the marginal cost of deepwater production by about 10 percent. (Financial Times) [ ]Paul Cheng of Barclays Capital warned that the higher costs could eliminate small independent companies who compete for drilling projects against the majors. (Financial Times) He also predicted an 11 percent drop in deepwater oil production. (Houston Chronicle) [ ]The Houston Chronicle reports that two large oil-services companies are relocating workers from the Gulf of Mexico to onshore North America drill sites and Brazil. [ ]The National Ocean Industries Association (NOIA) predicts that relocation is just part of the pain to be suffered by energy workers. Burt Adams, NOIA’s chairman, said in a statement, “the [president's] order will be felt by the families of tens of thousands of offshore workers who will be unemployed.� API’s chief economist John Felmy discussing the potential short effects of Obama’s moratorium: http://gatewaypundit...ose-their-jobs/ Drilling rigs may already be leaving, never to come back, potentially giving US technology to foreign governments... IDLED OIL RIGS ARE MOVING TO BRAZIL Following Obama’s Drilling Moratorium Posted by Jim Hoft on Sunday, June 13, 2010, 6:39 AM Barack Obama’s oil drilling moratorium will cost tens of thousands of American jobs. But, not everyone will suffer. Oil companies are planning on moving their rigs from the Gulf of Mexico to South America off the coast of Brazil where the government is more friendly to energy corporations. Reuters reported, via Free Republic: Brazil could benefit from the BP Gulf of Mexico spill as a U.S. moratorium on offshore drilling boosts available rigs for the country’s deep water oil exploration program. Even as an ecological catastrophe makes the future of U.S. offshore drilling less certain, Brazil is plowing ahead with a $220 billion five-year plan to tap oil fields even deeper than BP’s (BP.L) ill-fated Gulf well, which is still leaking crude. With an estimated 35 rigs idled in the Gulf of Mexico, Brazil is already receiving inquiries from companies looking to move their rigs here, where vast discoveries in recent years may soon turn the country into a major crude exporter. “What is bad for some may be good for others,� said Fernando Martins, Latin America Vice President for GE Oil and Gas, which provides services to drillers in Brazil. “Since operators are shutting down at least temporarily in the U.S. Gulf, some companies are planning to move their rigs to Brazil now,� he said, without offering details. By the way… The Obama Administration fudged their report to push for the oil drilling ban. Barack Obama urged the Democratic Congress to pass his new tax on oil companies yesterday. http://gatewaypundit...rigs-to-brazil/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 It makes no sense to shut down active wells . Most accidents occur in the starting up or shutting down process. I live in Houston. It is going to get ugly. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegisteredAndEducated Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Get ugly indeed. Quote Intelligent people think... how ignorance must be bliss.... idiots have it so easy, it's not fair... to have to think... WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE AMONG THOSE FORTUNATE MASSES..... Hey, "Non-believers" I've just got one thing to say to ya... If you're right, then what difference does it make, it wont matter when we're dead anyway... But if I'm right... Well, hey... Ya better be right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builder Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Sounds like outsourcing to me. Quote Persevere, it pisses people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phreakwars Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Drill, baby drill!! I need cheap gas and I want it NOW. . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 (edited) Drill, baby drill!! I need cheap gas and I want it NOW. . . I couldn't agree with you more Phreak. Nice to see you've come around to reality. . Edited April 2, 2016 by rem Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timesjoke Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 (edited) Drill, baby drill!! I need cheap gas and I want it NOW. . . I couldn't agree with you more Phreak. Nice to see you've come around to reality. . Sure beats the alternative, imagine how many "poor" are hurt by gas prices leaping up in price for example. I love it when the Liberals pretend to be looking out for the "little" guy while they crush him under their heel. The only reason they want to push less oil and more "alternatives" is because they own most of the interest in these alternatives. GE for example is possitioned to make the most money from the cap-and-tax program and guess who has been one of the biggest blind supporter of Obama? GE, imagine that. Even the "experts" Obama turned to for advice have said stopping drilling is a very bad idea, but why should Obama listen to the experts............? Edited April 2, 2016 by rem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builder Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Sure beats the alternative, imagine how many "poor" are hurt by gas prices leaping up in price for example. You mean the "poor" people trading in oil? Or every other bastard being screwed over at the pump? I love it when the Liberals pretend to be looking out for the "little" guy while they crush him under their heel. Making an effort to avoid another catastrophic environmental disaster that will clearly overshadow the Exon Valdez "mishap", is, in your opinion, nothing more than a political stunt? Clearly, the oil barons had no viable contingency plan to cover such an event, and you are blaming your prez? What's Obama got to do with their lack of foresight? And as far as handling catastrophes, remember hurricane Katrina? Who said this? "You're doing a great job, Brownie." ????? The only reason they want to push less oil and more "alternatives" is because they own most of the interest in these alternatives. Hmmm, I clearly remember your last prez saying how developing alternative fuel sources was paramount to his plans for lessening the reliance on oil from foreign nations. He even suggested using grass to power your insatiable need for fuels. What happened to that plan? GE for example is possitioned to make the most money from the cap-and-tax program and guess who has been one of the biggest blind supporter of Obama? GE, imagine that. Cap and tax? They can't cap it. And again, that is the fault of the oil company. Not your current prez. Even the "experts" Obama turned to for advice have said stopping drilling is a very bad idea, but why should Obama listen to the experts............? Perhaps he has an agenda that does not include flogging a dead horse. 1 Quote Persevere, it pisses people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImWithStupid Posted June 15, 2010 Author Share Posted June 15, 2010 Sounds like outsourcing to me. Yep. Outsourcing not only facilitated by the Obama administration, with the moritorium sending drilling rigs overseas, but financed by it also... Obama Underwrites Offshore Drilling Too bad it's not in U.S. waters. You read that headline correctly. Unfortunately, the Obama Administration is financing oil exploration off Brazil. The U.S. is going to lend billions of dollars to Brazil's state-owned oil company, Petrobras, to finance exploration of the huge offshore discovery in Brazil's Tupi oil field in the Santos Basin near Rio de Janeiro. Brazil's planning minister confirmed that White House National Security Adviser James Jones met this month with Brazilian officials to talk about the loan. The U.S. Export-Import Bank tells us it has issued a "preliminary commitment" letter to Petrobras in the amount of $2 billion and has discussed with Brazil the possibility of increasing that amount. http://online.wsj.co...eTabs%3Darticle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builder Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Yep. Outsourcing not only facilitated by the Obama administration, with the moritorium sending drilling rigs overseas, but financed by it also... It's all about balancing trade under the FTA. http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c3510.html#2010 Quote Persevere, it pisses people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timesjoke Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 You mean the "poor" people trading in oil? Or every other bastard being screwed over at the pump? I said it correctly, the poor, the guys who are hurt the most by Liberals screwing around with the oil supply only to try and gain political points (oh, and funnel money into their own pockets from the companies like GE who are possitioned to make the most money). Making an effort to avoid another catastrophic environmental disaster that will clearly overshadow the Exon Valdez "mishap", is, in your opinion, nothing more than a political stunt? Clearly, the oil barons had no viable contingency plan to cover such an event, and you are blaming your prez? What's Obama got to do with their lack of foresight? And as far as handling catastrophes, remember hurricane Katrina? Who said this? "You're doing a great job, Brownie." ????? I blame Obama for "knee jerk" political actions that make things worse, not better. I blame Obama for ignoring the experts in the field and doing whatever helps him and his political agenda instead of doing what is best for all americans. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/10/experts-say-obama-misrepresented-views-justify-offshore-drilling-ban/ In a letter the experts sent to Salazar, they said his primary recommendation "misrepresents" their position and that halting the drilling is actually a bad idea. The oil rig explosion occurred while the well was being shut down – a move that is much more dangerous than continuing ongoing drilling, they said. They also said that because the floating rigs are scarce and in high demand worldwide, they will not simply sit in the Gulf idle for six months. The rigs will go to the North Sea and West Africa, possibly preventing the U.S. from being able to resume drilling for years. They also said the best and most advanced rigs will be the first to go, leaving the U.S. with the older and potentially less safe rights operating in the nation's coastal waters. Hmmm, I clearly remember your last prez saying how developing alternative fuel sources was paramount to his plans for lessening the reliance on oil from foreign nations. He even suggested using grass to power your insatiable need for fuels. What happened to that plan? The biggest two problems with alternative energy sources is the systems are not viable without Government assistence (bio fuels for example get Government subsidies, if you took away the subsidy, their price per gallon would put them out of reach to the average American). The second problem is even if you created a new reliable and cost effective fuel for cars, the poor would be the last to be able to afford the new cars. As we withdraw from oil based energy, the cost will sky rocket and the people hurt the most by that time are the poor who will be working the hardest to try and survive. Drilling more now would actually help the poor during those times because we could control the supply as we wean ourselves off oil products. As we use less oil, we will need to import less oil, eventually reaching a point where we can supply our own need instead of getting it from somewhere else. This would mean a lower impact on the poor. Cap and tax? They can't cap it. And again, that is the fault of the oil company. Not your current prez. The new policies will cause heating costs in the north to tripple in cost, that is not the oil companies, that is Obama and the Liberals screwing the poor. Do you know that the "evil" oil companies make less profit on oil sales than the Government does? While the oil companies take all the risk, the Government makes a massive amount of 'free' money off of their work, and ask yourself another question, as we force the lower use of oil, where does the Government make up such a huge amount of loss tax revinue? Perhaps he has an agenda that does not include flogging a dead horse. Like Al Gore, they are in it for the money, they own the foundations of these alternative areas and stand to make so much money they will make the "oil barrons" you speak of look like poor orphans. Either Obama is listening to the experts or he is not. If he is ignoring the experts, there must be a reason that has nothing to do with the facts or the situation that the experts know more about than he does. So if not based on the need, what else could Obama be basing his decisions on? Personal and political gain seem the most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImWithStupid Posted June 19, 2010 Author Share Posted June 19, 2010 As the Gulf Coast shores continue to be coated with crude, the Obama Administration has only accepted assistance from 5 countries out of 28 who offered to assist the US with the cleanup. The State Department posted this on their website. 28 countries have offered to help assist the United States with the worst environmental disaster in American history. Only 5 offers have been accepted the rest are under review. . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builder Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 As the Gulf Coast shores continue to be coated with crude, the Obama Administration has only accepted assistance from 5 countries out of 28 who offered to assist the US with the cleanup. What is with that stance? The former prez rejected help from heaps of capable nations in the Hurricane Katrina crisis. Is it pride? Or national security? Seems to me when you have a disaster on such a tremendously damaging scale, any help would be welcomed. Quote Persevere, it pisses people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 As the Gulf Coast shores continue to be coated with crude, the Obama Administration has only accepted assistance from 5 countries out of 28 who offered to assist the US with the cleanup. What is with that stance? The former prez rejected help from heaps of capable nations in the Hurricane Katrina crisis. Is it pride? Or national security? Seems to me when you have a disaster on such a tremendously damaging scale, any help would be welcomed. Never understood it. If I need mouth to mouth resucitation I ain't gonna hold out for the pretty blonde. 1 Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timesjoke Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 I believe the "reimbursement required" column is the most important consideration. When America goes out to help in places like Haiti, we pay for the help we provide most of the time, when other people help us they have their hands out. If the majority of this "help" is only an attempt to make money off our problem then I would be careful about accepting "help" too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImWithStupid Posted June 22, 2010 Author Share Posted June 22, 2010 This is refreshing news... U.S. Deepwater Drilling Ban Lifted by Federal Judge June 22 (Bloomberg) -- A New Orleans federal judge lifted the six-month moratorium on deepwater drilling imposed by President Barack Obama following the largest oil spill in U.S. history. Shares of drilling services companies jumped on the news. Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/06/21/bloomberg1376-L4FFWA07SXKX01-6NCM0129GHL8E7IC20E1H6TLT9.DTL#ixzz0rbnn73l8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timesjoke Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 I like this part: "Continuing to drill at these depths without knowing what happened does not make any sense," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said. So if the deep water drilling may not be safe, why not release the ban on the shallow drilling they would rather do? Safer. cheaper, creats jobs, and ensures a better supply of oil for all Americans, but liberals don't want that for some reason.......... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlantic Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Maybe they could find some room for some more Census workers :unsure: Quote Do the right thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokersarewild Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 I'm quite curious as to why the only people that seem to be causing problems are "liberals". I'm sure others are responsible in their own ways. 1 Quote RoyalOrleans is my real dad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Perenna Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 I'm quite curious as to why the only people that seem to be causing problems are "liberals". I'm sure others are responsible in their own ways. You'll soon learn the gospel according to TimesJoke and IWS: "Liberals" are to blame for absolutely everything 1 Quote _______________________________________________________ I don't know how to put this, but ... I'm kind of a big deal. http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/da43a2f8a710897a421f74efa00eba9a.jpg I'm still here. I'm still a fool for the holy grail Not all gay men send me penis pictures. But no straight men do. And to date, no woman has sent me a picture of her vaginal canal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 I'm quite curious as to why the only people that seem to be causing problems are "liberals". I'm sure others are responsible in their own ways. You'll soon learn the gospel according to TimesJoke and IWS: "Liberals" are to blame for absolutely everything Actually, global warming is due entirely to natural causes and it is only everything else that liberals are to blame for. Not sure why we don't just execute all the liberals in the name of liberty. 1 Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImWithStupid Posted June 27, 2010 Author Share Posted June 27, 2010 I'm quite curious as to why the only people that seem to be causing problems are "liberals". I'm sure others are responsible in their own ways. You'll soon learn the gospel according to TimesJoke and IWS: "Liberals" are to blame for absolutely everything Actually, global warming is due entirely to natural causes and it is only everything else that liberals are to blame for. Not sure why we don't just execute all the liberals in the name of liberty. Actually, everything causes global warming and also is the result of global warming, and is George W. Bush's fault. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timesjoke Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I'm quite curious as to why the only people that seem to be causing problems are "liberals". I'm sure others are responsible in their own ways. The liberals are in power "right now" and as a part of being in power is you have to take the blame for what you control. The things I and many other hold dear are things such as freedoms and the ability to stand on my own two feet and find success/failure according to my own abilities in life. Liberals/socialists/progressives are the exact opposite of what so many people like me believe in where their main focus is "social justice" where they feel the only reason people are poor is because other people hold them down. These folks impede my success (by asking for more and more taxes from my pocket and oppressive legislation that kills jobs) and they remove the freedoms that I and many other people hold dear. I was just as critical against past "so called" Republicans like Bush when he supported things like the amnesty bill, I don't "just" call out the Liberals, but it is "MOSTLY" those kinds of people who want to eliminate freedoms for everyone else. If they were only taking away their freedoms I would not mind, but when they want to give away mine, I will speak out against that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegisteredAndEducated Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I'm quite curious as to why the only people that seem to be causing problems are "liberals". I'm sure others are responsible in their own ways. You'll soon learn the gospel according to TimesJoke and IWS: "Liberals" are to blame for absolutely everything Actually, global warming is due entirely to natural causes and it is only everything else that liberals are to blame for. Not sure why we don't just execute all the liberals in the name of liberty. ROFL! That's great. Actually' date=' everything causes global warming and also is the result of global warming, and is George W. Bush's fault.[/quote'] HILARIOUS! edit: and true! Quote Intelligent people think... how ignorance must be bliss.... idiots have it so easy, it's not fair... to have to think... WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE AMONG THOSE FORTUNATE MASSES..... Hey, "Non-believers" I've just got one thing to say to ya... If you're right, then what difference does it make, it wont matter when we're dead anyway... But if I'm right... Well, hey... Ya better be right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timesjoke Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I just think it is funny as hell that some idiots still believe there is such a thing as "man caused" global warming. Enough facts have been revealed to prove that all of this was simply an elaborate Hoax designed to make money and gain political power. More and more hard scientists have distanced themselves away from this topic and even if they will not directly speak against it, they are not supporting it like they used to so the only people still being vocal in supporting this farce are politicians, people who make billions on the "alternatives" like Al Gore, or scientists who will lose grants (no paychecks) if they admit there is no "man caused" global warming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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