Obama's "Bitter" Comment Halts Momentum

Monday, April 14, 2008

CAMPAIGN NEWS

Obama's "Bitter" Comment Halts His Momentum

Sen. Barack Obama's campaign spent the weekend dealing with fallout

from comments he made about small town Pennsylvania voters last week

during a private fundraiser in San Francisco. Obama, who remarks were

first reported by Huffington Post on Friday, said at the event, "You

go into these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small

towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and

nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton

Administration and the Bush Administration, and each successive

administration has said that somehow these communities are going to

regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising, then, they get

bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who

aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment

as a way to explain their frustrations," according to the Washington

Post. After drawing limited media attention on Saturday, the remarks

began to generate a furor yesterday, and continued to reverberate in

the latest news cycle, drowning out the candidates' appearance at the

faith and compassion forum at Messiah College yesterday.

USA Today reports Sen. Hillary Clinton and her allies yesterday went

on the offensive, charging that Obama's comments "showed him to be

elitist and vulnerable to the kind of Republican attacks that have

sunk Democratic candidates in the past." ABC World News reported in

its lead story last night, "Here in Pennsylvania, Hillary Clinton is

seeking to redefine Obama as a champion of the politics of

bitterness." Clinton said, "I think his comments were elitist and

divisive. And the Democratic Party has been, unfortunately, viewed by

many people over the last decades as being elitist and out of touch."

NBC Nightly News, also in its lead story, reported Obama's "recent

depiction of small town voters as bitter and clinging to guns and

religion is reverberating loudly on the campaign trail tonight. And

while Obama admits those words were not well chosen, the Hillary

Clinton campaign has made it the centerpiece of a new round of

attacks." "

The AP reports Clinton "tried to portray herself as an ally of the

middle class on Sunday by keeping alive Barack Obama's comments about

bitter voters in small towns while taking her campaign door to door"

in Scranton. Clinton said, "Senator Obama has not owned up to what he

said and taken accountability for it. What people are looking for is

an explanation. What does he really believe? How does he see people

here in this neighborhood, throughout Pennsylvania, Indiana, North

Carolina, other places in our country?"

The Washington Post reports that at the Messiah College forum, Clinton

argued that the comments "reinforced a stereotype of 'out-of-touch'

Democrats that doomed the party's last two presidential nominees."

Clinton said, "We had two very good men, and men of faith, run for

president in 2000 and 2004. But large segments of the electorate

concluded that they did not really understand or relate to or frankly

respect their ways of life." Clinton "repeated her view that Obama had

been 'elitist...and frankly patronizing.'"

The AP reports that in Jim Thorpe, PA, yesterday, ex-President Bill

Clinton weighed in on the controversy surrounding Obama's remarks,

saying during an appearance at Jim Thorpe Area High School, "Right

before I came out at my last event, a man came up to me and he said,

'Mr. President, I want you to know something about the working people

of Pennsylvania. We're not bitter about anything. We're proud. But we

do want a better deal for the people of our country and for our

children.' And that's what Hillary wants to give you."

Obama Hits Back The AP reports Obama "lashed out" at Clinton yesterday

at a union hall in Steelton, Pennsylvania. Obama said, "She knows

better. Shame on her. Shame on her." The AP adds Obama "reiterated his

regret for his choice of words at the fundraiser but suggested they

had been twisted and mischaracterized. He said he'd expected blowback

from GOP nominee-in-waiting John McCain, but had been 'a little

disappointed' to be criticized by Clinton." The Chicago Tribune adds

Obama, "stepping up his defense" yesterday, saying in Steelton, "She

is running around talking about how this is an insult to sportsmen,

how she values the 2nd Amendment. She's talking like she is Annie

Oakley."

-------

-C-

In article <1cd680a2-b3f1-404b-b1c1-26aa86680fdd@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, johnb505@gmail.com says...

> On Apr 14, 9:03

"Clay" <Clays0nTop@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:f48b2940-e137-4737-b4b9-d9d8cae73ef5@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

On Apr 14, 10:10 am, "f. barnes" wrote:

...

> On Apr 14, 8:33 am, "John B." <johnb...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>

> > On Apr 14, 9:03 am, Clay <clays0nl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> > > Monday, April 14, 2008

> > > CAMPAIGN NEWS

> > > Obama's "Bitter" Comment Halts His Momentum

> > > Sen. Barack Obama's campaign spent the weekend dealing with fallout

> > > from comments he made about small town Pennsylvania voters last week

> > > during a private fundraiser in San Francisco. Obama, who remarks were

> > > first reported by Huffington Post on Friday, said at the event, "You

> > > go into these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small

> > > towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and

> > > nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton

> > > Administration and the Bush Administration, and each successive

> > > administration has said that somehow these communities are going to

> > > regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising, then, they get

> > > bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who

> > > aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment

> > > as a way to explain their frustrations," according to the Washington

> > > Post. After drawing limited media attention on Saturday, the remarks

> > > began to generate a furor yesterday, and continued to reverberate in

> > > the latest news cycle, drowning out the candidates' appearance at the

> > > faith and compassion forum at Messiah College yesterday.

>

> > > USA Today reports Sen. Hillary Clinton and her allies yesterday went

> > > on the offensive, charging that Obama's comments "showed him to be

> > > elitist and vulnerable to the kind of Republican attacks that have

> > > sunk Democratic candidates in the past." ABC World News reported in

> > > its lead story last night, "Here in Pennsylvania, Hillary Clinton is

> > > seeking to redefine Obama as a champion of the politics of

> > > bitterness." Clinton said, "I think his comments were elitist and

> > > divisive. And the Democratic Party has been, unfortunately, viewed by

> > > many people over the last decades as being elitist and out of touch."

> > > NBC Nightly News, also in its lead story, reported Obama's "recent

> > > depiction of small town voters as bitter and clinging to guns and

> > > religion is reverberating loudly on the campaign trail tonight. And

> > > while Obama admits those words were not well chosen, the Hillary

> > > Clinton campaign has made it the centerpiece of a new round of

> > > attacks." "

>

> > > The AP reports Clinton "tried to portray herself as an ally of the

> > > middle class on Sunday by keeping alive Barack Obama's comments about

> > > bitter voters in small towns while taking her campaign door to door"

> > > in Scranton. Clinton said, "Senator Obama has not owned up to what he

> > > said and taken accountability for it. What people are looking for is

> > > an explanation. What does he really believe? How does he see people

> > > here in this neighborhood, throughout Pennsylvania, Indiana, North

> > > Carolina, other places in our country?"

>

> > > The Washington Post reports that at the Messiah College forum, Clinton

> > > argued that the comments "reinforced a stereotype of 'out-of-touch'

> > > Democrats that doomed the party's last two presidential nominees."

> > > Clinton said, "We had two very good men, and men of faith, run for

> > > president in 2000 and 2004. But large segments of the electorate

> > > concluded that they did not really understand or relate to or frankly

> > > respect their ways of life." Clinton "repeated her view that Obama had

> > > been 'elitist...and frankly patronizing.'"

>

> > > The AP reports that in Jim Thorpe, PA, yesterday, ex-President Bill

> > > Clinton weighed in on the controversy surrounding Obama's remarks,

> > > saying during an appearance at Jim Thorpe Area High School, "Right

> > > before I came out at my last event, a man came up to me and he said,

> > > 'Mr. President, I want you to know something about the working people

> > > of Pennsylvania. We're not bitter about anything. We're proud. But we

> > > do want a better deal for the people of our country and for our

> > > children.' And that's what Hillary wants to give you."

>

> > > Obama Hits Back The AP reports Obama "lashed out" at Clinton yesterday

> > > at a union hall in Steelton, Pennsylvania. Obama said, "She knows

> > > better. Shame on her. Shame on her." The AP adds Obama "reiterated his

> > > regret for his choice of words at the fundraiser but suggested they

> > > had been twisted and mischaracterized. He said he'd expected blowback

> > > from GOP nominee-in-waiting John McCain, but had been 'a little

> > > disappointed' to be criticized by Clinton." The Chicago Tribune adds

> > > Obama, "stepping up his defense" yesterday, saying in Steelton, "She

> > > is running around talking about how this is an insult to sportsmen,

> > > how she values the 2nd Amendment. She's talking like she is Annie

> > > Oakley."

>

> > > -------

>

> > > -C-

>

> > What's wrong with what he said?- Hide quoted text -

>

> > - Show quoted text -

>

> He claimed that the cherished beliefs and ideals we hold onto and

> embrace are the result of "bitterness". No one denies that people are

> bitter; they have every right to be bitter. But when times were good

> we embraced God and the 2nd amendment, we embrace God and the 2nd

> amendment now, and if times improve we will still cling to those same

> beliefs and ideals.

>

> City people think that rural folk are illiterate, ignorant, hicks.

> But I will put our high school seniors up against your city high

> school seniors on reading, math, and science any day. We can also

> compare dropout rates, drug usage, and violence in the classroom.

> Then we will see who is ignorant and illiterate. The city kids will

> likely beat us on social conditioning; city kids have to learn to live

> as hive creatures or herd animals in the crowds.

Not only that, but Sen. Hope & Change never really thought that his

words would be heard outside his little cadre of fellow liberal

elitists.

"Psyche !!!"

-C-

It's just more fuel for Rove and another way to dump the real issues; Bush

is a failure, Iraq is lost, the economy sucks but... but... but... look over

THERE at Obama.

"Clay" <ClaysRight@gmail.com> wrote in message

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On Apr 14, 10:23 am, "My Favorite Changeling" <Kook>:

...

> "Clay" <Clays0n...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>

> news:f48b2940-e137-4737-b4b9-d9d8cae73ef5@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

> On Apr 14, 10:10 am, "f. barnes" wrote:

> ...

>

>

> > On Apr 14, 8:33 am, "John B." <johnb...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> > > On Apr 14, 9:03 am, Clay <clays0nl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> > > > Monday, April 14, 2008

> > > > CAMPAIGN NEWS

> > > > Obama's "Bitter" Comment Halts His Momentum

> > > > Sen. Barack Obama's campaign spent the weekend dealing with fallout

> > > > from comments he made about small town Pennsylvania voters last week

> > > > during a private fundraiser in San Francisco. Obama, who remarks

> > > > were

> > > > first reported by Huffington Post on Friday, said at the event, "You

> > > > go into these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small

> > > > towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and

> > > > nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton

> > > > Administration and the Bush Administration, and each successive

> > > > administration has said that somehow these communities are going to

> > > > regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising, then, they

> > > > get

> > > > bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who

> > > > aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment

> > > > as a way to explain their frustrations," according to the Washington

> > > > Post. After drawing limited media attention on Saturday, the remarks

> > > > began to generate a furor yesterday, and continued to reverberate in

> > > > the latest news cycle, drowning out the candidates' appearance at

> > > > the

> > > > faith and compassion forum at Messiah College yesterday.

>

> > > > USA Today reports Sen. Hillary Clinton and her allies yesterday went

> > > > on the offensive, charging that Obama's comments "showed him to be

> > > > elitist and vulnerable to the kind of Republican attacks that have

> > > > sunk Democratic candidates in the past." ABC World News reported in

> > > > its lead story last night, "Here in Pennsylvania, Hillary Clinton is

> > > > seeking to redefine Obama as a champion of the politics of

> > > > bitterness." Clinton said, "I think his comments were elitist and

> > > > divisive. And the Democratic Party has been, unfortunately, viewed

> > > > by

> > > > many people over the last decades as being elitist and out of

> > > > touch."

> > > > NBC Nightly News, also in its lead story, reported Obama's "recent

> > > > depiction of small town voters as bitter and clinging to guns and

> > > > religion is reverberating loudly on the campaign trail tonight. And

> > > > while Obama admits those words were not well chosen, the Hillary

> > > > Clinton campaign has made it the centerpiece of a new round of

> > > > attacks." "

>

> > > > The AP reports Clinton "tried to portray herself as an ally of the

> > > > middle class on Sunday by keeping alive Barack Obama's comments

> > > > about

> > > > bitter voters in small towns while taking her campaign door to door"

> > > > in Scranton. Clinton said, "Senator Obama has not owned up to what

> > > > he

> > > > said and taken accountability for it. What people are looking for is

> > > > an explanation. What does he really believe? How does he see people

> > > > here in this neighborhood, throughout Pennsylvania, Indiana, North

> > > > Carolina, other places in our country?"

>

> > > > The Washington Post reports that at the Messiah College forum,

> > > > Clinton

> > > > argued that the comments "reinforced a stereotype of 'out-of-touch'

> > > > Democrats that doomed the party's last two presidential nominees."

> > > > Clinton said, "We had two very good men, and men of faith, run for

> > > > president in 2000 and 2004. But large segments of the electorate

> > > > concluded that they did not really understand or relate to or

> > > > frankly

> > > > respect their ways of life." Clinton "repeated her view that Obama

> > > > had

> > > > been 'elitist...and frankly patronizing.'"

>

> > > > The AP reports that in Jim Thorpe, PA, yesterday, ex-President Bill

> > > > Clinton weighed in on the controversy surrounding Obama's remarks,

> > > > saying during an appearance at Jim Thorpe Area High School, "Right

> > > > before I came out at my last event, a man came up to me and he said,

> > > > 'Mr. President, I want you to know something about the working

> > > > people

> > > > of Pennsylvania. We're not bitter about anything. We're proud. But

> > > > we

> > > > do want a better deal for the people of our country and for our

> > > > children.' And that's what Hillary wants to give you."

>

> > > > Obama Hits Back The AP reports Obama "lashed out" at Clinton

> > > > yesterday

> > > > at a union hall in Steelton, Pennsylvania. Obama said, "She knows

> > > > better. Shame on her. Shame on her." The AP adds Obama "reiterated

> > > > his

> > > > regret for his choice of words at the fundraiser but suggested they

> > > > had been twisted and mischaracterized. He said he'd expected

> > > > blowback

> > > > from GOP nominee-in-waiting John McCain, but had been 'a little

> > > > disappointed' to be criticized by Clinton." The Chicago Tribune adds

> > > > Obama, "stepping up his defense" yesterday, saying in Steelton, "She

> > > > is running around talking about how this is an insult to sportsmen,

> > > > how she values the 2nd Amendment. She's talking like she is Annie

> > > > Oakley."

>

> > > > -------

>

> > > > -C-

>

> > > What's wrong with what he said?- Hide quoted text -

>

> > > - Show quoted text -

>

> > He claimed that the cherished beliefs and ideals we hold onto and

> > embrace are the result of "bitterness". No one denies that people are

> > bitter; they have every right to be bitter. But when times were good

> > we embraced God and the 2nd amendment, we embrace God and the 2nd

> > amendment now, and if times improve we will still cling to those same

> > beliefs and ideals.

>

> > City people think that rural folk are illiterate, ignorant, hicks.

> > But I will put our high school seniors up against your city high

> > school seniors on reading, math, and science any day. We can also

> > compare dropout rates, drug usage, and violence in the classroom.

> > Then we will see who is ignorant and illiterate. The city kids will

> > likely beat us on social conditioning; city kids have to learn to live

> > as hive creatures or herd animals in the crowds.

>

> Not only that, but Sen. Hope & Change never really thought that his

> words would be heard outside his little cadre of fellow liberal

> elitists.

>

> "Psyche !!!"

>

> -C-

>

> It's just more fuel for Rove and another way to dump the real issues; Bush

Your brain (such as it is) only operates in one mode, junior...

"Bush".

Come January 21st, 2009... you won't have any more reasons to keep

breathing.

Too fucking funny.

-C-

You'll be in Iraq in a body bag, what do you care?

Clay <Clays0nTop@gmail.com> allegedly said in news:c3537e7a-504e-4767-

a56a-d95244769667@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

> On Apr 14, 9:33

On Apr 14, 6:33 am, "John B." <johnb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 14, 9:03 am, Clay <clays0nl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>

>

> > Monday, April 14, 2008

> > CAMPAIGN NEWS

> > Obama's "Bitter" Comment Halts His Momentum

> > Sen. Barack Obama's campaign spent the weekend dealing with fallout

> > from comments he made about small town Pennsylvania voters last week

> > during a private fundraiser in San Francisco. Obama, who remarks were

> > first reported by Huffington Post on Friday, said at the event, "You

> > go into these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small

> > towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and

> > nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton

> > Administration and the Bush Administration, and each successive

> > administration has said that somehow these communities are going to

> > regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising, then, they get

> > bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who

> > aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment

> > as a way to explain their frustrations," according to the Washington

> > Post. After drawing limited media attention on Saturday, the remarks

> > began to generate a furor yesterday, and continued to reverberate in

> > the latest news cycle, drowning out the candidates' appearance at the

> > faith and compassion forum at Messiah College yesterday.

>

> > USA Today reports Sen. Hillary Clinton and her allies yesterday went

> > on the offensive, charging that Obama's comments "showed him to be

> > elitist and vulnerable to the kind of Republican attacks that have

> > sunk Democratic candidates in the past." ABC World News reported in

> > its lead story last night, "Here in Pennsylvania, Hillary Clinton is

> > seeking to redefine Obama as a champion of the politics of

> > bitterness." Clinton said, "I think his comments were elitist and

> > divisive. And the Democratic Party has been, unfortunately, viewed by

> > many people over the last decades as being elitist and out of touch."

> > NBC Nightly News, also in its lead story, reported Obama's "recent

> > depiction of small town voters as bitter and clinging to guns and

> > religion is reverberating loudly on the campaign trail tonight. And

> > while Obama admits those words were not well chosen, the Hillary

> > Clinton campaign has made it the centerpiece of a new round of

> > attacks." "

>

> > The AP reports Clinton "tried to portray herself as an ally of the

> > middle class on Sunday by keeping alive Barack Obama's comments about

> > bitter voters in small towns while taking her campaign door to door"

> > in Scranton. Clinton said, "Senator Obama has not owned up to what he

> > said and taken accountability for it. What people are looking for is

> > an explanation. What does he really believe? How does he see people

> > here in this neighborhood, throughout Pennsylvania, Indiana, North

> > Carolina, other places in our country?"

>

> > The Washington Post reports that at the Messiah College forum, Clinton

> > argued that the comments "reinforced a stereotype of 'out-of-touch'

> > Democrats that doomed the party's last two presidential nominees."

> > Clinton said, "We had two very good men, and men of faith, run for

> > president in 2000 and 2004. But large segments of the electorate

> > concluded that they did not really understand or relate to or frankly

> > respect their ways of life." Clinton "repeated her view that Obama had

> > been 'elitist...and frankly patronizing.'"

>

> > The AP reports that in Jim Thorpe, PA, yesterday, ex-President Bill

> > Clinton weighed in on the controversy surrounding Obama's remarks,

> > saying during an appearance at Jim Thorpe Area High School, "Right

> > before I came out at my last event, a man came up to me and he said,

> > 'Mr. President, I want you to know something about the working people

> > of Pennsylvania. We're not bitter about anything. We're proud. But we

> > do want a better deal for the people of our country and for our

> > children.' And that's what Hillary wants to give you."

>

> > Obama Hits Back The AP reports Obama "lashed out" at Clinton yesterday

> > at a union hall in Steelton, Pennsylvania. Obama said, "She knows

> > better. Shame on her. Shame on her." The AP adds Obama "reiterated his

> > regret for his choice of words at the fundraiser but suggested they

> > had been twisted and mischaracterized. He said he'd expected blowback

> > from GOP nominee-in-waiting John McCain, but had been 'a little

> > disappointed' to be criticized by Clinton." The Chicago Tribune adds

> > Obama, "stepping up his defense" yesterday, saying in Steelton, "She

> > is running around talking about how this is an insult to sportsmen,

> > how she values the 2nd Amendment. She's talking like she is Annie

> > Oakley."

>

> > -------

>

> > -C-

>

> What's wrong with what he said?

Nothing. Let's hope he keeps on saying it.

"f. barnes" <fredlb@centurytel.net> allegedly said in news:740c7770-2030-

45cc-b98f-c0a1edede4ee@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

> On Apr 14, 8:33

On Apr 14, 6:33 am, "John B." <johnb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 14, 9:03 am, Clay <clays0nl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

>

>

> > Monday, April 14, 2008

> > CAMPAIGN NEWS

> > Obama's "Bitter" Comment Halts His Momentum

> > Sen. Barack Obama's campaign spent the weekend dealing with fallout

> > from comments he made about small town Pennsylvania voters last week

> > during a private fundraiser in San Francisco. Obama, who remarks were

> > first reported by Huffington Post on Friday, said at the event, "You

> > go into these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small

> > towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and

> > nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton

> > Administration and the Bush Administration, and each successive

> > administration has said that somehow these communities are going to

> > regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising, then, they get

> > bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who

> > aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment

> > as a way to explain their frustrations," according to the Washington

> > Post. After drawing limited media attention on Saturday, the remarks

> > began to generate a furor yesterday, and continued to reverberate in

> > the latest news cycle, drowning out the candidates' appearance at the

> > faith and compassion forum at Messiah College yesterday.

>

> > USA Today reports Sen. Hillary Clinton and her allies yesterday went

> > on the offensive, charging that Obama's comments "showed him to be

> > elitist and vulnerable to the kind of Republican attacks that have

> > sunk Democratic candidates in the past." ABC World News reported in

> > its lead story last night, "Here in Pennsylvania, Hillary Clinton is

> > seeking to redefine Obama as a champion of the politics of

> > bitterness." Clinton said, "I think his comments were elitist and

> > divisive. And the Democratic Party has been, unfortunately, viewed by

> > many people over the last decades as being elitist and out of touch."

> > NBC Nightly News, also in its lead story, reported Obama's "recent

> > depiction of small town voters as bitter and clinging to guns and

> > religion is reverberating loudly on the campaign trail tonight. And

> > while Obama admits those words were not well chosen, the Hillary

> > Clinton campaign has made it the centerpiece of a new round of

> > attacks." "

>

> > The AP reports Clinton "tried to portray herself as an ally of the

> > middle class on Sunday by keeping alive Barack Obama's comments about

> > bitter voters in small towns while taking her campaign door to door"

> > in Scranton. Clinton said, "Senator Obama has not owned up to what he

> > said and taken accountability for it. What people are looking for is

> > an explanation. What does he really believe? How does he see people

> > here in this neighborhood, throughout Pennsylvania, Indiana, North

> > Carolina, other places in our country?"

>

> > The Washington Post reports that at the Messiah College forum, Clinton

> > argued that the comments "reinforced a stereotype of 'out-of-touch'

> > Democrats that doomed the party's last two presidential nominees."

> > Clinton said, "We had two very good men, and men of faith, run for

> > president in 2000 and 2004. But large segments of the electorate

> > concluded that they did not really understand or relate to or frankly

> > respect their ways of life." Clinton "repeated her view that Obama had

> > been 'elitist...and frankly patronizing.'"

>

> > The AP reports that in Jim Thorpe, PA, yesterday, ex-President Bill

> > Clinton weighed in on the controversy surrounding Obama's remarks,

> > saying during an appearance at Jim Thorpe Area High School, "Right

> > before I came out at my last event, a man came up to me and he said,

> > 'Mr. President, I want you to know something about the working people

> > of Pennsylvania. We're not bitter about anything. We're proud. But we

> > do want a better deal for the people of our country and for our

> > children.' And that's what Hillary wants to give you."

>

> > Obama Hits Back The AP reports Obama "lashed out" at Clinton yesterday

> > at a union hall in Steelton, Pennsylvania. Obama said, "She knows

> > better. Shame on her. Shame on her." The AP adds Obama "reiterated his

> > regret for his choice of words at the fundraiser but suggested they

> > had been twisted and mischaracterized. He said he'd expected blowback

> > from GOP nominee-in-waiting John McCain, but had been 'a little

> > disappointed' to be criticized by Clinton." The Chicago Tribune adds

> > Obama, "stepping up his defense" yesterday, saying in Steelton, "She

> > is running around talking about how this is an insult to sportsmen,

> > how she values the 2nd Amendment. She's talking like she is Annie

> > Oakley."

>

> > -------

>

> > -C-

>

> What's wrong with what he said?

Nothing. Let's hope he keeps saying it.

On Apr 14, 7:23 am, "McNailbomb" <Hanoi Radio

McBom...@bushcocksucker.net> wrote:

> "Clay" <Clays0n...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>

> news:f48b2940-e137-4737-b4b9-d9d8cae73ef5@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

> On Apr 14, 10:10 am, "f. barnes" wrote:

> ...

>

>

>

> > On Apr 14, 8:33 am, "John B." <johnb...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> > > On Apr 14, 9:03 am, Clay <clays0nl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> > > > Monday, April 14, 2008

> > > > CAMPAIGN NEWS

> > > > Obama's "Bitter" Comment Halts His Momentum

> > > > Sen. Barack Obama's campaign spent the weekend dealing with fallout

> > > > from comments he made about small town Pennsylvania voters last week

> > > > during a private fundraiser in San Francisco. Obama, who remarks were

> > > > first reported by Huffington Post on Friday, said at the event, "You

> > > > go into these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small

> > > > towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and

> > > > nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton

> > > > Administration and the Bush Administration, and each successive

> > > > administration has said that somehow these communities are going to

> > > > regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising, then, they get

> > > > bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who

> > > > aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment

> > > > as a way to explain their frustrations," according to the Washington

> > > > Post. After drawing limited media attention on Saturday, the remarks

> > > > began to generate a furor yesterday, and continued to reverberate in

> > > > the latest news cycle, drowning out the candidates' appearance at the

> > > > faith and compassion forum at Messiah College yesterday.

>

> > > > USA Today reports Sen. Hillary Clinton and her allies yesterday went

> > > > on the offensive, charging that Obama's comments "showed him to be

> > > > elitist and vulnerable to the kind of Republican attacks that have

> > > > sunk Democratic candidates in the past." ABC World News reported in

> > > > its lead story last night, "Here in Pennsylvania, Hillary Clinton is

> > > > seeking to redefine Obama as a champion of the politics of

> > > > bitterness." Clinton said, "I think his comments were elitist and

> > > > divisive. And the Democratic Party has been, unfortunately, viewed by

> > > > many people over the last decades as being elitist and out of touch."

> > > > NBC Nightly News, also in its lead story, reported Obama's "recent

> > > > depiction of small town voters as bitter and clinging to guns and

> > > > religion is reverberating loudly on the campaign trail tonight. And

> > > > while Obama admits those words were not well chosen, the Hillary

> > > > Clinton campaign has made it the centerpiece of a new round of

> > > > attacks." "

>

> > > > The AP reports Clinton "tried to portray herself as an ally of the

> > > > middle class on Sunday by keeping alive Barack Obama's comments about

> > > > bitter voters in small towns while taking her campaign door to door"

> > > > in Scranton. Clinton said, "Senator Obama has not owned up to what he

> > > > said and taken accountability for it. What people are looking for is

> > > > an explanation. What does he really believe? How does he see people

> > > > here in this neighborhood, throughout Pennsylvania, Indiana, North

> > > > Carolina, other places in our country?"

>

> > > > The Washington Post reports that at the Messiah College forum, Clinton

> > > > argued that the comments "reinforced a stereotype of 'out-of-touch'

> > > > Democrats that doomed the party's last two presidential nominees."

> > > > Clinton said, "We had two very good men, and men of faith, run for

> > > > president in 2000 and 2004. But large segments of the electorate

> > > > concluded that they did not really understand or relate to or frankly

> > > > respect their ways of life." Clinton "repeated her view that Obama had

> > > > been 'elitist...and frankly patronizing.'"

>

> > > > The AP reports that in Jim Thorpe, PA, yesterday, ex-President Bill

> > > > Clinton weighed in on the controversy surrounding Obama's remarks,

> > > > saying during an appearance at Jim Thorpe Area High School, "Right

> > > > before I came out at my last event, a man came up to me and he said,

> > > > 'Mr. President, I want you to know something about the working people

> > > > of Pennsylvania. We're not bitter about anything. We're proud. But we

> > > > do want a better deal for the people of our country and for our

> > > > children.' And that's what Hillary wants to give you."

>

> > > > Obama Hits Back The AP reports Obama "lashed out" at Clinton yesterday

> > > > at a union hall in Steelton, Pennsylvania. Obama said, "She knows

> > > > better. Shame on her. Shame on her." The AP adds Obama "reiterated his

> > > > regret for his choice of words at the fundraiser but suggested they

> > > > had been twisted and mischaracterized. He said he'd expected blowback

> > > > from GOP nominee-in-waiting John McCain, but had been 'a little

> > > > disappointed' to be criticized by Clinton." The Chicago Tribune adds

> > > > Obama, "stepping up his defense" yesterday, saying in Steelton, "She

> > > > is running around talking about how this is an insult to sportsmen,

> > > > how she values the 2nd Amendment. She's talking like she is Annie

> > > > Oakley."

>

> > > > -------

>

> > > > -C-

>

> > > What's wrong with what he said?- Hide quoted text -

>

> > > - Show quoted text -

>

> > He claimed that the cherished beliefs and ideals we hold onto and

> > embrace are the result of "bitterness". No one denies that people are

> > bitter; they have every right to be bitter. But when times were good

> > we embraced God and the 2nd amendment, we embrace God and the 2nd

> > amendment now, and if times improve we will still cling to those same

> > beliefs and ideals.

>

> > City people think that rural folk are illiterate, ignorant, hicks.

> > But I will put our high school seniors up against your city high

> > school seniors on reading, math, and science any day. We can also

> > compare dropout rates, drug usage, and violence in the classroom.

> > Then we will see who is ignorant and illiterate. The city kids will

> > likely beat us on social conditioning; city kids have to learn to live

> > as hive creatures or herd animals in the crowds.

>

> Not only that, but Sen. Hope & Change never really thought that his

> words would be heard outside his little cadre of fellow liberal

> elitists.

>

> "Psyche !!!"

>

> -C-

>

> It's just more fuel for Rove and another way to dump the real issues; Bush

> is a failure, Iraq is lost, the economy sucks but... but... but... look over

> THERE at Obama.

The real issue in this campaign is Obama. He and the company he keeps

are making him the issue.

..

> What's wrong with what he said?

..

He insulted about 80% of the people he needs to vote for him.

.

> "I was able to studied" ?

..

> Geez... ClayDOH!! you (MISSPELLING) manage to hide all that education very well.

..

> From your posts we all assumed (THAT) you lived in a trailer in Bumfuck, Arkanas

> or in some redneck/hillbilly shithole like texass (MISSPELLING) and survived on

> welfare.

..

> Amazing... is your name really Clay ????

..

> As for The Obama? I suspect he is falling into the trap of starting to

> believe his own propoganda. (MISSPELLING)

..

> But I do find it funny that reichtards, (MISSPELLING) whose whole ethos is about

> slavishly sucking big corporate dick and pissing all over ordinary folks

> in the process, should be accusing ANYBODY of being "elitist"...

..

And yet you feel comfortable attacking Clay for a very minor typo.

Amazing, indeed.

On Apr 14, 1:29 pm, "bvall...@aol.com" <bvall...@aol.com> wrote:

> .> What's wrong with what he said?

>

> .

> He insulted about 80% of the people he needs to vote for him.

So what? Maybe he doesn't want those gun toting Christians voting for

him. Carville says he's trying to mobilize white elitist Liberals to

propel him into the White House.

.....and this comes from bvalley who is the first one to jump on a typo????

What a hypocrite.

<bvallely@aol.com> wrote in message

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> .

> > "I was able to studied" ?

> .

> > Geez... ClayDOH!! you (MISSPELLING) manage to hide all that education

very well.

> .

> > From your posts we all assumed (THAT) you lived in a trailer in Bumfuck,

Arkanas

> > or in some redneck/hillbilly shithole like texass (MISSPELLING) and

survived on

> > welfare.

> .

> > Amazing... is your name really Clay ????

> .

> > As for The Obama? I suspect he is falling into the trap of starting to

> > believe his own propoganda. (MISSPELLING)

> .

> > But I do find it funny that reichtards, (MISSPELLING) whose whole ethos

is about

> > slavishly sucking big corporate dick and pissing all over ordinary folks

> > in the process, should be accusing ANYBODY of being "elitist"...

> .

> And yet you feel comfortable attacking Clay for a very minor typo.

> Amazing, indeed.

Clay <clays0nline@gmail.com> allegedly said in

news:cd874634-11c4-4479-b702-e0ee43aee054@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

> On Apr 14, 3:51

How as what he said an insult.

I've been to many of those small towns in Western Pa. and he hit the nail on

the head. Lost factories, mines closed and this has been for years.

What has government done for them as far as helping them rebuild?

They are bitter.

<bvallely@aol.com> wrote in message

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> .

> > What's wrong with what he said?

> .

> He insulted about 80% of the people he needs to vote for him.

>

>

"bvallely@aol.com" <bvallely@aol.com> allegedly said in

news:eab22524-40a3-4740-86a6-bd78127aae47@q1g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

> .

>> "I was able to studied" ?

> .

>> Geez... ClayDOH!! you (MISSPELLING) manage to hide all that education

>> very well.

> .

>> From your posts we all assumed (THAT) you lived in a trailer in

>> Bumfuck, Arkanas or in some redneck/hillbilly shithole like texass

>> (MISSPELLING) and survived on welfare.

> .

>> Amazing... is your name really Clay ????

> .

>> As for The Obama? I suspect he is falling into the trap of starting

>> to believe his own propoganda. (MISSPELLING)

> .

>> But I do find it funny that reichtards, (MISSPELLING) whose whole

>> ethos is about slavishly sucking big corporate dick and pissing all

>> over ordinary folks in the process, should be accusing ANYBODY of

>> being "elitist"...

> .

> And yet you feel comfortable attacking Clay for a very minor typo.

> Amazing, indeed.

>

WTF are you babbling about valleyLOON ???

gesus h christ... get a grip !!!

rotfl..

--

AW

<small but dangerous>

"f. barnes" <fredlb@centurytel.net> allegedly said in

news:4688c062-dda2-48fc-85b2-56942cc680b1@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

> On Apr 14, 3:00