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"Exxon wins freeze on $12 billion of Venezuelan assets By Michael
Erman
Thu Feb 7, 7:35 PM ET

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Exxon Mobil Corp (XOM.N) has won court orders
freezing up to $12 billion in Venezuelan assets around the world as it
fights for compensation for operations lost to President Hugo Chavez's
nationalization drive.

The largest U.S. company sought the asset freeze to guarantee
repayment should it win arbitration over the Cerro Negro heavy oil
project.

The move is the boldest challenge yet by an international oil major
against any of the governments around the world that have moved to
increase their holds on natural resources as energy and commodity
prices have soared.

"To me it sounds like a very aggressive tactic," said Stephen Zamora,
professor of international law at the University of Houston Law
Center.

"I can't really say that I'm aware this has been used in other
investment disputes. They may be trying to get the government to
settle."

Exxon -- which last week posted the largest ever year's profit by a
U.S. company -- said on Thursday it has received court orders in
Britain, the Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each freezing up
to $12 billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. An Exxon
spokeswoman said the total that could be frozen worldwide was $12
billion.

Exxon also won a court order from the U.S. District Court for the
Southern District of New York in December freezing more than $300
million belonging to PDVSA, seeking to guarantee repayment should it
win the arbitration.

PDVSA, one of the largest suppliers of crude oil to the United States,
was not immediately available for comment. The White House and the
U.S. State Department also declined to comment.

Venezuela's sovereign bonds sold off after the court orders surfaced.

Left-winger Chavez, who regularly clashes with the Bush
administration, took over Exxon Mobil and ConocoPhillips (COP.N)
stakes in multibillion-dollar heavy oil projects in Venezuela's oil
region last June.

The move was part of the left-wing leader's drive to nationalize key
industries including utilities and telecommunications companies owned
by private companies.

CHALLENGE TO CHAVEZ

The news comes as a tough blow to Chavez, who suffered a stinging
defeat in a December referendum that would have let him run
indefinitely for reelection and enshrine socialism as the OPEC
nation's economic system.

PDVSA is already facing growing debt and increasing operational
problems that analysts attribute to underinvestment caused by the
company's massive contributions to Chavez's social programs.

But the near-term effect of the Exxon legal maneuver on PDVSA's day-to-
day operations was not immediately clear.

The South American nation has an extensive overseas refining network,
including the Citgo refining and marketing branch in the United
States.

Exxon said in court filings that recent estimates have placed PDVSA's
global asset value -- including its operations in Venezuela -- at over
$62 billion

PDVSA's European refining assets, principally a 50 percent share in
the German refining joint venture Ruhr Oel, were held through a
Netherlands Company PDV Europa BV, according to filings PDVSA made
with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in 2006.

Exxon filed for arbitration in September with the International Centre
for Settlement of Investment Disputes.

Exxon has not specified how much it wants for the 41.7 percent stake
in the Cerro Negro project, but it has said its remaining book
investment in the project was about $750 million at the time the
assets were expropriated.

The move underscores Exxon's reputation for toughness in dealing with
foes as varied as governments and fishermen, as it has been willing to
wage prolonged legal battles to defend its interests around the
world.

Amy Meyers Jaffe, energy policy researcher at Rice's Baker Institute,
said the case could have far-reaching implications.

"These are precedents that are going to be important for what people
can and cannot do in the oil industry," she said.

ConocoPhillips spokesman William Tanner said his company "continues to
discuss an amicable resolution regarding the assets that were
expropriated in Venezuela."

Conoco filed for arbitration over the dispute in November.

Venezuela's benchmark global bond due 2027 lost 2.375 points in price
to be bid 98.938, while total returns offered by the country's debt
slipped 1.52 percent according to the JP Morgan EMBI+ index. "
 
On Feb 8, 3:10�pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com"
<theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> Yup........Ain't It a HOOT?...........Heehee............
>
> "Exxon wins freeze on $12 billion of Venezuelan assets By Michael
> Erman
> Thu Feb 7, 7:35 PM ET
>
> NEW YORK (Reuters) - Exxon Mobil Corp (XOM.N) has won court orders
> freezing up to $12 billion in Venezuelan assets around the world as it
> fights for compensation for operations lost to President Hugo Chavez's
> nationalization drive.
>
> The largest U.S. company sought the asset freeze to guarantee
> repayment should it win arbitration over the Cerro Negro heavy oil
> project.
>
> The move is the boldest challenge yet by an international oil major
> against any of the governments around the world that have moved to
> increase their holds on natural resources as energy and commodity
> prices have soared.
>
> "To me it sounds like a very aggressive tactic," said Stephen Zamora,
> professor of international law at the University of Houston Law
> Center.
>
> "I can't really say that I'm aware this has been used in other
> investment disputes. They may be trying to get the government to
> settle."
>
> Exxon -- which last week posted the largest ever year's profit by a
> U.S. company -- said on Thursday it has received court orders in
> Britain, the Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each freezing up
> to $12 billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. An Exxon
> spokeswoman said the total that could be frozen worldwide was $12
> billion.
>
> Exxon also won a court order from the U.S. District Court for the
> Southern District of New York in December freezing more than $300
> million belonging to PDVSA, seeking to guarantee repayment should it
> win the arbitration.
>
> PDVSA, one of the largest suppliers of crude oil to the United States,
> was not immediately available for comment. The White House and the
> U.S. State Department also declined to comment.
>
> Venezuela's sovereign bonds sold off after the court orders surfaced.
>
> Left-winger Chavez, who regularly clashes with the Bush
> administration, took over Exxon Mobil and ConocoPhillips (COP.N)
> stakes in multibillion-dollar heavy oil projects in Venezuela's oil
> region last June.
>
> The move was part of the left-wing leader's drive to nationalize key
> industries including utilities and telecommunications companies owned
> by private companies.
>
> CHALLENGE TO CHAVEZ
>
> The news comes as a tough blow to Chavez, who suffered a stinging
> defeat in a December referendum that would have let him run
> indefinitely for reelection and enshrine socialism as the OPEC
> nation's economic system.
>
> PDVSA is already facing growing debt and increasing operational
> problems that analysts attribute to underinvestment caused by the
> company's massive contributions to Chavez's social programs.
>
> But the near-term effect of the Exxon legal maneuver on PDVSA's day-to-
> day operations was not immediately clear.
>
> The South American nation has an extensive overseas refining network,
> including the Citgo refining and marketing branch in the United
> States.
>
> Exxon said in court filings that recent estimates have placed PDVSA's
> global asset value -- including its operations in Venezuela -- at over
> $62 billion
>
> PDVSA's European refining assets, principally a 50 percent share in
> the German refining joint venture Ruhr Oel, were held through a
> Netherlands Company PDV Europa BV, according to filings PDVSA made
> with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in 2006.
>
> Exxon filed for arbitration in September with the International Centre
> for Settlement of Investment Disputes.
>
> Exxon has not specified how much it wants for the 41.7 percent stake
> in the Cerro Negro project, but it has said its remaining book
> investment in the project was about $750 million at the time the
> assets were expropriated.
>
> The move underscores Exxon's reputation for toughness in dealing with
> foes as varied as governments and fishermen, as it has been willing to
> wage prolonged legal battles to defend its interests around the
> world.
>
> Amy Meyers Jaffe, energy policy researcher at Rice's Baker Institute,
> said the case could have far-reaching implications.
>
> "These are precedents that are going to be important for what people
> can and cannot do in the oil industry," she said.
>
> ConocoPhillips spokesman William Tanner said his company "continues to
> discuss an amicable resolution regarding the assets that were
> expropriated in Venezuela."
>
> Conoco filed for arbitration over the dispute in November.
>
> Venezuela's benchmark global bond due 2027 lost 2.375 points in price
> to be bid 98.938, while total returns offered by the country's debt
> slipped 1.52 percent according to the JP Morgan EMBI+ index. "


$12 billion seized by Exxon? Chump change! Chavez has the biggest
oil reserves in the world. Chavez can choose among many companies to
take Exxon's place.
 
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:10:53 -0800 (PST), "theloneranger100@aol.com"
<theloneranger100@aol.com> wrote:

>Yup........Ain't It a HOOT?...........Heehee............
>
>"Exxon wins freeze on $12 billion of Venezuelan assets By Michael
>Erman
>Thu Feb 7, 7:35 PM ET
>
>NEW YORK (Reuters) - Exxon Mobil Corp (XOM.N) has won court orders
>freezing up to $12 billion in Venezuelan assets around the world as it
>fights for compensation for operations lost to President Hugo Chavez's
>nationalization drive.
>
>The largest U.S. company sought the asset freeze to guarantee
>repayment should it win arbitration over the Cerro Negro heavy oil
>project.
>
>The move is the boldest challenge yet by an international oil major
>against any of the governments around the world that have moved to
>increase their holds on natural resources as energy and commodity
>prices have soared.
>
>"To me it sounds like a very aggressive tactic," said Stephen Zamora,
>professor of international law at the University of Houston Law
>Center.
>
>"I can't really say that I'm aware this has been used in other
>investment disputes. They may be trying to get the government to
>settle."
>
>Exxon -- which last week posted the largest ever year's profit by a
>U.S. company -- said on Thursday it has received court orders in
>Britain, the Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each freezing up
>to $12 billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. An Exxon
>spokeswoman said the total that could be frozen worldwide was $12
>billion.
>
>Exxon also won a court order from the U.S. District Court for the
>Southern District of New York in December freezing more than $300
>million belonging to PDVSA, seeking to guarantee repayment should it
>win the arbitration.
>
>PDVSA, one of the largest suppliers of crude oil to the United States,
>was not immediately available for comment. The White House and the
>U.S. State Department also declined to comment.
>
>Venezuela's sovereign bonds sold off after the court orders surfaced.
>
>Left-winger Chavez, who regularly clashes with the Bush
>administration, took over Exxon Mobil and ConocoPhillips (COP.N)
>stakes in multibillion-dollar heavy oil projects in Venezuela's oil
>region last June.
>
>The move was part of the left-wing leader's drive to nationalize key
>industries including utilities and telecommunications companies owned
>by private companies.
>
>CHALLENGE TO CHAVEZ
>
>The news comes as a tough blow to Chavez, who suffered a stinging
>defeat in a December referendum that would have let him run
>indefinitely for reelection and enshrine socialism as the OPEC
>nation's economic system.
>
>PDVSA is already facing growing debt and increasing operational
>problems that analysts attribute to underinvestment caused by the
>company's massive contributions to Chavez's social programs.
>
>But the near-term effect of the Exxon legal maneuver on PDVSA's day-to-
>day operations was not immediately clear.
>
>The South American nation has an extensive overseas refining network,
>including the Citgo refining and marketing branch in the United
>States.
>
>Exxon said in court filings that recent estimates have placed PDVSA's
>global asset value -- including its operations in Venezuela -- at over
>$62 billion
>
>PDVSA's European refining assets, principally a 50 percent share in
>the German refining joint venture Ruhr Oel, were held through a
>Netherlands Company PDV Europa BV, according to filings PDVSA made
>with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in 2006.
>
>Exxon filed for arbitration in September with the International Centre
>for Settlement of Investment Disputes.
>
>Exxon has not specified how much it wants for the 41.7 percent stake
>in the Cerro Negro project, but it has said its remaining book
>investment in the project was about $750 million at the time the
>assets were expropriated.
>
>The move underscores Exxon's reputation for toughness in dealing with
>foes as varied as governments and fishermen, as it has been willing to
>wage prolonged legal battles to defend its interests around the
>world.
>
>Amy Meyers Jaffe, energy policy researcher at Rice's Baker Institute,
>said the case could have far-reaching implications.
>
>"These are precedents that are going to be important for what people
>can and cannot do in the oil industry," she said.
>
>ConocoPhillips spokesman William Tanner said his company "continues to
>discuss an amicable resolution regarding the assets that were
>expropriated in Venezuela."
>
>Conoco filed for arbitration over the dispute in November.
>
>Venezuela's benchmark global bond due 2027 lost 2.375 points in price
>to be bid 98.938, while total returns offered by the country's debt
>slipped 1.52 percent according to the JP Morgan EMBI+ index. "


Considering the huge oil reserves they have, Venezuela may not even
miss that kind of money. He could just tell them to go screw
themselves and sell the oil to china and india.
They also have huge amounts of gold which they could go on a gold
standard and tell exxon to wipe their butts with the paper money. Gold
backed currency is good anywhere in the world and inflation proof.
 
On Feb 8, 5:32 pm, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Feb 8, 3:10�pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com"
>
>
>
>
>
> <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > Yup........Ain't It a HOOT?...........Heehee............

>
> > "Exxon wins freeze on $12 billion of Venezuelan assets By Michael
> > Erman
> > Thu Feb 7, 7:35 PM ET

>
> > NEW YORK (Reuters) - Exxon Mobil Corp (XOM.N) has won court orders
> > freezing up to $12 billion in Venezuelan assets around the world as it
> > fights for compensation for operations lost to President Hugo Chavez's
> > nationalization drive.

>
> > The largest U.S. company sought the asset freeze to guarantee
> > repayment should it win arbitration over the Cerro Negro heavy oil
> > project.

>
> > The move is the boldest challenge yet by an international oil major
> > against any of the governments around the world that have moved to
> > increase their holds on natural resources as energy and commodity
> > prices have soared.

>
> > "To me it sounds like a very aggressive tactic," said Stephen Zamora,
> > professor of international law at the University of Houston Law
> > Center.

>
> > "I can't really say that I'm aware this has been used in other
> > investment disputes. They may be trying to get the government to
> > settle."

>
> > Exxon -- which last week posted the largest ever year's profit by a
> > U.S. company -- said on Thursday it has received court orders in
> > Britain, the Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each freezing up
> > to $12 billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. An Exxon
> > spokeswoman said the total that could be frozen worldwide was $12
> > billion.

>
> > Exxon also won a court order from the U.S. District Court for the
> > Southern District of New York in December freezing more than $300
> > million belonging to PDVSA, seeking to guarantee repayment should it
> > win the arbitration.

>
> > PDVSA, one of the largest suppliers of crude oil to the United States,
> > was not immediately available for comment. The White House and the
> > U.S. State Department also declined to comment.

>
> > Venezuela's sovereign bonds sold off after the court orders surfaced.

>
> > Left-winger Chavez, who regularly clashes with the Bush
> > administration, took over Exxon Mobil and ConocoPhillips (COP.N)
> > stakes in multibillion-dollar heavy oil projects in Venezuela's oil
> > region last June.

>
> > The move was part of the left-wing leader's drive to nationalize key
> > industries including utilities and telecommunications companies owned
> > by private companies.

>
> > CHALLENGE TO CHAVEZ

>
> > The news comes as a tough blow to Chavez, who suffered a stinging
> > defeat in a December referendum that would have let him run
> > indefinitely for reelection and enshrine socialism as the OPEC
> > nation's economic system.

>
> > PDVSA is already facing growing debt and increasing operational
> > problems that analysts attribute to underinvestment caused by the
> > company's massive contributions to Chavez's social programs.

>
> > But the near-term effect of the Exxon legal maneuver on PDVSA's day-to-
> > day operations was not immediately clear.

>
> > The South American nation has an extensive overseas refining network,
> > including the Citgo refining and marketing branch in the United
> > States.

>
> > Exxon said in court filings that recent estimates have placed PDVSA's
> > global asset value -- including its operations in Venezuela -- at over
> > $62 billion

>
> > PDVSA's European refining assets, principally a 50 percent share in
> > the German refining joint venture Ruhr Oel, were held through a
> > Netherlands Company PDV Europa BV, according to filings PDVSA made
> > with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in 2006.

>
> > Exxon filed for arbitration in September with the International Centre
> > for Settlement of Investment Disputes.

>
> > Exxon has not specified how much it wants for the 41.7 percent stake
> > in the Cerro Negro project, but it has said its remaining book
> > investment in the project was about $750 million at the time the
> > assets were expropriated.

>
> > The move underscores Exxon's reputation for toughness in dealing with
> > foes as varied as governments and fishermen, as it has been willing to
> > wage prolonged legal battles to defend its interests around the
> > world.

>
> > Amy Meyers Jaffe, energy policy researcher at Rice's Baker Institute,
> > said the case could have far-reaching implications.

>
> > "These are precedents that are going to be important for what people
> > can and cannot do in the oil industry," she said.

>
> > ConocoPhillips spokesman William Tanner said his company "continues to
> > discuss an amicable resolution regarding the assets that were
> > expropriated in Venezuela."

>
> > Conoco filed for arbitration over the dispute in November.

>
> > Venezuela's benchmark global bond due 2027 lost 2.375 points in price
> > to be bid 98.938, while total returns offered by the country's debt
> > slipped 1.52 percent according to the JP Morgan EMBI+ index. "

>
> $12 billion seized by Exxon?  Chump change!  Chavez has the biggest
> oil reserves in the world.  Chavez can choose among many companies to
> take Exxon's place.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


No he CAN'T, Charlene..........Courts DON'T do
that............Donchaknow..........DumbAss............
 
On Feb 9, 6:43 am, "theloneranger...@aol.com"
<theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Feb 8, 5:32 pm, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 8, 3:10�pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com"

>
> > <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > Yup........Ain't It a HOOT?...........Heehee............

>
> > > "Exxon wins freeze on $12 billion of Venezuelan assets By Michael
> > > Erman
> > > Thu Feb 7, 7:35 PM ET

>
> > > NEW YORK (Reuters) - Exxon Mobil Corp (XOM.N) has won court orders
> > > freezing up to $12 billion in Venezuelan assets around the world as it
> > > fights for compensation for operations lost to President Hugo Chavez's
> > > nationalization drive.

>
> > > The largest U.S. company sought the asset freeze to guarantee
> > > repayment should it win arbitration over the Cerro Negro heavy oil
> > > project.

>
> > > The move is the boldest challenge yet by an international oil major
> > > against any of the governments around the world that have moved to
> > > increase their holds on natural resources as energy and commodity
> > > prices have soared.

>
> > > "To me it sounds like a very aggressive tactic," said Stephen Zamora,
> > > professor of international law at the University of Houston Law
> > > Center.

>
> > > "I can't really say that I'm aware this has been used in other
> > > investment disputes. They may be trying to get the government to
> > > settle."

>
> > > Exxon -- which last week posted the largest ever year's profit by a
> > > U.S. company -- said on Thursday it has received court orders in
> > > Britain, the Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each freezing up
> > > to $12 billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. An Exxon
> > > spokeswoman said the total that could be frozen worldwide was $12
> > > billion.

>
> > > Exxon also won a court order from the U.S. District Court for the
> > > Southern District of New York in December freezing more than $300
> > > million belonging to PDVSA, seeking to guarantee repayment should it
> > > win the arbitration.

>
> > > PDVSA, one of the largest suppliers of crude oil to the United States,
> > > was not immediately available for comment. The White House and the
> > > U.S. State Department also declined to comment.

>
> > > Venezuela's sovereign bonds sold off after the court orders surfaced.

>
> > > Left-winger Chavez, who regularly clashes with the Bush
> > > administration, took over Exxon Mobil and ConocoPhillips (COP.N)
> > > stakes in multibillion-dollar heavy oil projects in Venezuela's oil
> > > region last June.

>
> > > The move was part of the left-wing leader's drive to nationalize key
> > > industries including utilities and telecommunications companies owned
> > > by private companies.

>
> > > CHALLENGE TO CHAVEZ

>
> > > The news comes as a tough blow to Chavez, who suffered a stinging
> > > defeat in a December referendum that would have let him run
> > > indefinitely for reelection and enshrine socialism as the OPEC
> > > nation's economic system.

>
> > > PDVSA is already facing growing debt and increasing operational
> > > problems that analysts attribute to underinvestment caused by the
> > > company's massive contributions to Chavez's social programs.

>
> > > But the near-term effect of the Exxon legal maneuver on PDVSA's day-to-
> > > day operations was not immediately clear.

>
> > > The South American nation has an extensive overseas refining network,
> > > including the Citgo refining and marketing branch in the United
> > > States.

>
> > > Exxon said in court filings that recent estimates have placed PDVSA's
> > > global asset value -- including its operations in Venezuela -- at over
> > > $62 billion

>
> > > PDVSA's European refining assets, principally a 50 percent share in
> > > the German refining joint venture Ruhr Oel, were held through a
> > > Netherlands Company PDV Europa BV, according to filings PDVSA made
> > > with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in 2006.

>
> > > Exxon filed for arbitration in September with the International Centre
> > > for Settlement of Investment Disputes.

>
> > > Exxon has not specified how much it wants for the 41.7 percent stake
> > > in the Cerro Negro project, but it has said its remaining book
> > > investment in the project was about $750 million at the time the
> > > assets were expropriated.

>
> > > The move underscores Exxon's reputation for toughness in dealing with
> > > foes as varied as governments and fishermen, as it has been willing to
> > > wage prolonged legal battles to defend its interests around the
> > > world.

>
> > > Amy Meyers Jaffe, energy policy researcher at Rice's Baker Institute,
> > > said the case could have far-reaching implications.

>
> > > "These are precedents that are going to be important for what people
> > > can and cannot do in the oil industry," she said.

>
> > > ConocoPhillips spokesman William Tanner said his company "continues to
> > > discuss an amicable resolution regarding the assets that were
> > > expropriated in Venezuela."

>
> > > Conoco filed for arbitration over the dispute in November.

>
> > > Venezuela's benchmark global bond due 2027 lost 2.375 points in price
> > > to be bid 98.938, while total returns offered by the country's debt
> > > slipped 1.52 percent according to the JP Morgan EMBI+ index. "

>
> > $12 billion seized by Exxon?  Chump change!  Chavez has the biggest
> > oil reserves in the world.  Chavez can choose among many companies to
> > take Exxon's place.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> No he CAN'T, Charlene..........Courts DON'T do
> that............Donchaknow..........DumbAss............- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


AmeriKKKan courts have no power to control the Venezuelan oil fields.
Neither does Exxon. $12 billion is chump change. You lose. <snicker>
 
On Feb 9, 4:02 am, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Feb 9, 6:43 am, "theloneranger...@aol.com"
>
>
>
>
>
> <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 8, 5:32 pm, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:

>
> > > On Feb 8, 3:10�pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com"

>
> > > <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > Yup........Ain't It a HOOT?...........Heehee............

>
> > > > "Exxon wins freeze on $12 billion of Venezuelan assets By Michael
> > > > Erman
> > > > Thu Feb 7, 7:35 PM ET

>
> > > > NEW YORK (Reuters) - Exxon Mobil Corp (XOM.N) has won court orders
> > > > freezing up to $12 billion in Venezuelan assets around the world as it
> > > > fights for compensation for operations lost to President Hugo Chavez's
> > > > nationalization drive.

>
> > > > The largest U.S. company sought the asset freeze to guarantee
> > > > repayment should it win arbitration over the Cerro Negro heavy oil
> > > > project.

>
> > > > The move is the boldest challenge yet by an international oil major
> > > > against any of the governments around the world that have moved to
> > > > increase their holds on natural resources as energy and commodity
> > > > prices have soared.

>
> > > > "To me it sounds like a very aggressive tactic," said Stephen Zamora,
> > > > professor of international law at the University of Houston Law
> > > > Center.

>
> > > > "I can't really say that I'm aware this has been used in other
> > > > investment disputes. They may be trying to get the government to
> > > > settle."

>
> > > > Exxon -- which last week posted the largest ever year's profit by a
> > > > U.S. company -- said on Thursday it has received court orders in
> > > > Britain, the Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each freezing up
> > > > to $12 billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. An Exxon
> > > > spokeswoman said the total that could be frozen worldwide was $12
> > > > billion.

>
> > > > Exxon also won a court order from the U.S. District Court for the
> > > > Southern District of New York in December freezing more than $300
> > > > million belonging to PDVSA, seeking to guarantee repayment should it
> > > > win the arbitration.

>
> > > > PDVSA, one of the largest suppliers of crude oil to the United States,
> > > > was not immediately available for comment. The White House and the
> > > > U.S. State Department also declined to comment.

>
> > > > Venezuela's sovereign bonds sold off after the court orders surfaced..

>
> > > > Left-winger Chavez, who regularly clashes with the Bush
> > > > administration, took over Exxon Mobil and ConocoPhillips (COP.N)
> > > > stakes in multibillion-dollar heavy oil projects in Venezuela's oil
> > > > region last June.

>
> > > > The move was part of the left-wing leader's drive to nationalize key
> > > > industries including utilities and telecommunications companies owned
> > > > by private companies.

>
> > > > CHALLENGE TO CHAVEZ

>
> > > > The news comes as a tough blow to Chavez, who suffered a stinging
> > > > defeat in a December referendum that would have let him run
> > > > indefinitely for reelection and enshrine socialism as the OPEC
> > > > nation's economic system.

>
> > > > PDVSA is already facing growing debt and increasing operational
> > > > problems that analysts attribute to underinvestment caused by the
> > > > company's massive contributions to Chavez's social programs.

>
> > > > But the near-term effect of the Exxon legal maneuver on PDVSA's day-to-
> > > > day operations was not immediately clear.

>
> > > > The South American nation has an extensive overseas refining network,
> > > > including the Citgo refining and marketing branch in the United
> > > > States.

>
> > > > Exxon said in court filings that recent estimates have placed PDVSA's
> > > > global asset value -- including its operations in Venezuela -- at over
> > > > $62 billion

>
> > > > PDVSA's European refining assets, principally a 50 percent share in
> > > > the German refining joint venture Ruhr Oel, were held through a
> > > > Netherlands Company PDV Europa BV, according to filings PDVSA made
> > > > with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in 2006.

>
> > > > Exxon filed for arbitration in September with the International Centre
> > > > for Settlement of Investment Disputes.

>
> > > > Exxon has not specified how much it wants for the 41.7 percent stake
> > > > in the Cerro Negro project, but it has said its remaining book
> > > > investment in the project was about $750 million at the time the
> > > > assets were expropriated.

>
> > > > The move underscores Exxon's reputation for toughness in dealing with
> > > > foes as varied as governments and fishermen, as it has been willing to
> > > > wage prolonged legal battles to defend its interests around the
> > > > world.

>
> > > > Amy Meyers Jaffe, energy policy researcher at Rice's Baker Institute,
> > > > said the case could have far-reaching implications.

>
> > > > "These are precedents that are going to be important for what people
> > > > can and cannot do in the oil industry," she said.

>
> > > > ConocoPhillips spokesman William Tanner said his company "continues to
> > > > discuss an amicable resolution regarding the assets that were
> > > > expropriated in Venezuela."

>
> > > > Conoco filed for arbitration over the dispute in November.

>
> > > > Venezuela's benchmark global bond due 2027 lost 2.375 points in price
> > > > to be bid 98.938, while total returns offered by the country's debt
> > > > slipped 1.52 percent according to the JP Morgan EMBI+ index. "

>
> > > $12 billion seized by Exxon?  Chump change!  Chavez has the biggest
> > > oil reserves in the world.  Chavez can choose among many companies to
> > > take Exxon's place.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > No he CAN'T, Charlene..........Courts DON'T do
> > that............Donchaknow..........DumbAss............- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> AmeriKKKan courts have no power to control the Venezuelan oil fields.
> Neither does Exxon.  $12 billion is chump change.  You lose.  <snicker>- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


I guess you DIDN'T Read The Article, Charlene............You were Too
Busy being a RAVING LUNATIC............Donchaknow.............."Exxon
said on Thursday it has received court orders in Britain, the
Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each freezing up to $12
billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. "
 
On Feb 9, 4:09 pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com"
<theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Feb 9, 4:02 am, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 9, 6:43 am, "theloneranger...@aol.com"

>
> > <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > On Feb 8, 5:32 pm, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:

>
> > > > On Feb 8, 3:10�pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com"

>
> > > > <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > Yup........Ain't It a HOOT?...........Heehee............

>
> > > > > "Exxon wins freeze on $12 billion of Venezuelan assets By Michael
> > > > > Erman
> > > > > Thu Feb 7, 7:35 PM ET

>
> > > > > NEW YORK (Reuters) - Exxon Mobil Corp (XOM.N) has won court orders
> > > > > freezing up to $12 billion in Venezuelan assets around the world as it
> > > > > fights for compensation for operations lost to President Hugo Chavez's
> > > > > nationalization drive.

>
> > > > > The largest U.S. company sought the asset freeze to guarantee
> > > > > repayment should it win arbitration over the Cerro Negro heavy oil
> > > > > project.

>
> > > > > The move is the boldest challenge yet by an international oil major
> > > > > against any of the governments around the world that have moved to
> > > > > increase their holds on natural resources as energy and commodity
> > > > > prices have soared.

>
> > > > > "To me it sounds like a very aggressive tactic," said Stephen Zamora,
> > > > > professor of international law at the University of Houston Law
> > > > > Center.

>
> > > > > "I can't really say that I'm aware this has been used in other
> > > > > investment disputes. They may be trying to get the government to
> > > > > settle."

>
> > > > > Exxon -- which last week posted the largest ever year's profit by a
> > > > > U.S. company -- said on Thursday it has received court orders in
> > > > > Britain, the Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each freezing up
> > > > > to $12 billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. An Exxon
> > > > > spokeswoman said the total that could be frozen worldwide was $12
> > > > > billion.

>
> > > > > Exxon also won a court order from the U.S. District Court for the
> > > > > Southern District of New York in December freezing more than $300
> > > > > million belonging to PDVSA, seeking to guarantee repayment should it
> > > > > win the arbitration.

>
> > > > > PDVSA, one of the largest suppliers of crude oil to the United States,
> > > > > was not immediately available for comment. The White House and the
> > > > > U.S. State Department also declined to comment.

>
> > > > > Venezuela's sovereign bonds sold off after the court orders surfaced.

>
> > > > > Left-winger Chavez, who regularly clashes with the Bush
> > > > > administration, took over Exxon Mobil and ConocoPhillips (COP.N)
> > > > > stakes in multibillion-dollar heavy oil projects in Venezuela's oil
> > > > > region last June.

>
> > > > > The move was part of the left-wing leader's drive to nationalize key
> > > > > industries including utilities and telecommunications companies owned
> > > > > by private companies.

>
> > > > > CHALLENGE TO CHAVEZ

>
> > > > > The news comes as a tough blow to Chavez, who suffered a stinging
> > > > > defeat in a December referendum that would have let him run
> > > > > indefinitely for reelection and enshrine socialism as the OPEC
> > > > > nation's economic system.

>
> > > > > PDVSA is already facing growing debt and increasing operational
> > > > > problems that analysts attribute to underinvestment caused by the
> > > > > company's massive contributions to Chavez's social programs.

>
> > > > > But the near-term effect of the Exxon legal maneuver on PDVSA's day-to-
> > > > > day operations was not immediately clear.

>
> > > > > The South American nation has an extensive overseas refining network,
> > > > > including the Citgo refining and marketing branch in the United
> > > > > States.

>
> > > > > Exxon said in court filings that recent estimates have placed PDVSA's
> > > > > global asset value -- including its operations in Venezuela -- at over
> > > > > $62 billion

>
> > > > > PDVSA's European refining assets, principally a 50 percent share in
> > > > > the German refining joint venture Ruhr Oel, were held through a
> > > > > Netherlands Company PDV Europa BV, according to filings PDVSA made
> > > > > with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in 2006.

>
> > > > > Exxon filed for arbitration in September with the International Centre
> > > > > for Settlement of Investment Disputes.

>
> > > > > Exxon has not specified how much it wants for the 41.7 percent stake
> > > > > in the Cerro Negro project, but it has said its remaining book
> > > > > investment in the project was about $750 million at the time the
> > > > > assets were expropriated.

>
> > > > > The move underscores Exxon's reputation for toughness in dealing with
> > > > > foes as varied as governments and fishermen, as it has been willing to
> > > > > wage prolonged legal battles to defend its interests around the
> > > > > world.

>
> > > > > Amy Meyers Jaffe, energy policy researcher at Rice's Baker Institute,
> > > > > said the case could have far-reaching implications.

>
> > > > > "These are precedents that are going to be important for what people
> > > > > can and cannot do in the oil industry," she said.

>
> > > > > ConocoPhillips spokesman William Tanner said his company "continues to
> > > > > discuss an amicable resolution regarding the assets that were
> > > > > expropriated in Venezuela."

>
> > > > > Conoco filed for arbitration over the dispute in November.

>
> > > > > Venezuela's benchmark global bond due 2027 lost 2.375 points in price
> > > > > to be bid 98.938, while total returns offered by the country's debt
> > > > > slipped 1.52 percent according to the JP Morgan EMBI+ index. "

>
> > > > $12 billion seized by Exxon?  Chump change!  Chavez has the biggest
> > > > oil reserves in the world.  Chavez can choose among many companies to
> > > > take Exxon's place.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > > No he CAN'T, Charlene..........Courts DON'T do
> > > that............Donchaknow..........DumbAss............- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > AmeriKKKan courts have no power to control the Venezuelan oil fields.
> > Neither does Exxon.  $12 billion is chump change.  You lose.  <snicker>- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> I guess you DIDN'T Read The Article, Charlene............You were Too
> Busy being a RAVING LUNATIC............Donchaknow.............."Exxon
> said on Thursday it has received court orders in Britain, the
> Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each freezing up to $12
> billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. "- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


UP TO $12 billion in several countries still is chump change, fool.
 
On Feb 9, 6:59 pm, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Feb 9, 4:09 pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com"
>
>
>
>
>
> <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 9, 4:02 am, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:

>
> > > On Feb 9, 6:43 am, "theloneranger...@aol.com"

>
> > > <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > On Feb 8, 5:32 pm, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:

>
> > > > > On Feb 8, 3:10�pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com"

>
> > > > > <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Yup........Ain't It a HOOT?...........Heehee............

>
> > > > > > "Exxon wins freeze on $12 billion of Venezuelan assets By Michael
> > > > > > Erman
> > > > > > Thu Feb 7, 7:35 PM ET

>
> > > > > > NEW YORK (Reuters) - Exxon Mobil Corp (XOM.N) has won court orders
> > > > > > freezing up to $12 billion in Venezuelan assets around the world as it
> > > > > > fights for compensation for operations lost to President Hugo Chavez's
> > > > > > nationalization drive.

>
> > > > > > The largest U.S. company sought the asset freeze to guarantee
> > > > > > repayment should it win arbitration over the Cerro Negro heavy oil
> > > > > > project.

>
> > > > > > The move is the boldest challenge yet by an international oil major
> > > > > > against any of the governments around the world that have moved to
> > > > > > increase their holds on natural resources as energy and commodity
> > > > > > prices have soared.

>
> > > > > > "To me it sounds like a very aggressive tactic," said Stephen Zamora,
> > > > > > professor of international law at the University of Houston Law
> > > > > > Center.

>
> > > > > > "I can't really say that I'm aware this has been used in other
> > > > > > investment disputes. They may be trying to get the government to
> > > > > > settle."

>
> > > > > > Exxon -- which last week posted the largest ever year's profit by a
> > > > > > U.S. company -- said on Thursday it has received court orders in
> > > > > > Britain, the Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each freezing up
> > > > > > to $12 billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. An Exxon
> > > > > > spokeswoman said the total that could be frozen worldwide was $12
> > > > > > billion.

>
> > > > > > Exxon also won a court order from the U.S. District Court for the
> > > > > > Southern District of New York in December freezing more than $300
> > > > > > million belonging to PDVSA, seeking to guarantee repayment should it
> > > > > > win the arbitration.

>
> > > > > > PDVSA, one of the largest suppliers of crude oil to the United States,
> > > > > > was not immediately available for comment. The White House and the
> > > > > > U.S. State Department also declined to comment.

>
> > > > > > Venezuela's sovereign bonds sold off after the court orders surfaced.

>
> > > > > > Left-winger Chavez, who regularly clashes with the Bush
> > > > > > administration, took over Exxon Mobil and ConocoPhillips (COP.N)
> > > > > > stakes in multibillion-dollar heavy oil projects in Venezuela's oil
> > > > > > region last June.

>
> > > > > > The move was part of the left-wing leader's drive to nationalize key
> > > > > > industries including utilities and telecommunications companies owned
> > > > > > by private companies.

>
> > > > > > CHALLENGE TO CHAVEZ

>
> > > > > > The news comes as a tough blow to Chavez, who suffered a stinging
> > > > > > defeat in a December referendum that would have let him run
> > > > > > indefinitely for reelection and enshrine socialism as the OPEC
> > > > > > nation's economic system.

>
> > > > > > PDVSA is already facing growing debt and increasing operational
> > > > > > problems that analysts attribute to underinvestment caused by the
> > > > > > company's massive contributions to Chavez's social programs.

>
> > > > > > But the near-term effect of the Exxon legal maneuver on PDVSA's day-to-
> > > > > > day operations was not immediately clear.

>
> > > > > > The South American nation has an extensive overseas refining network,
> > > > > > including the Citgo refining and marketing branch in the United
> > > > > > States.

>
> > > > > > Exxon said in court filings that recent estimates have placed PDVSA's
> > > > > > global asset value -- including its operations in Venezuela -- at over
> > > > > > $62 billion

>
> > > > > > PDVSA's European refining assets, principally a 50 percent share in
> > > > > > the German refining joint venture Ruhr Oel, were held through a
> > > > > > Netherlands Company PDV Europa BV, according to filings PDVSA made
> > > > > > with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in 2006.

>
> > > > > > Exxon filed for arbitration in September with the International Centre
> > > > > > for Settlement of Investment Disputes.

>
> > > > > > Exxon has not specified how much it wants for the 41.7 percent stake
> > > > > > in the Cerro Negro project, but it has said its remaining book
> > > > > > investment in the project was about $750 million at the time the
> > > > > > assets were expropriated.

>
> > > > > > The move underscores Exxon's reputation for toughness in dealing with
> > > > > > foes as varied as governments and fishermen, as it has been willing to
> > > > > > wage prolonged legal battles to defend its interests around the
> > > > > > world.

>
> > > > > > Amy Meyers Jaffe, energy policy researcher at Rice's Baker Institute,
> > > > > > said the case could have far-reaching implications.

>
> > > > > > "These are precedents that are going to be important for what people
> > > > > > can and cannot do in the oil industry," she said.

>
> > > > > > ConocoPhillips spokesman William Tanner said his company "continues to
> > > > > > discuss an amicable resolution regarding the assets that were
> > > > > > expropriated in Venezuela."

>
> > > > > > Conoco filed for arbitration over the dispute in November.

>
> > > > > > Venezuela's benchmark global bond due 2027 lost 2.375 points in price
> > > > > > to be bid 98.938, while total returns offered by the country's debt
> > > > > > slipped 1.52 percent according to the JP Morgan EMBI+ index. "

>
> > > > > $12 billion seized by Exxon?  Chump change!  Chavez has the biggest
> > > > > oil reserves in the world.  Chavez can choose among many companies to
> > > > > take Exxon's place.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > > > No he CAN'T, Charlene..........Courts DON'T do
> > > > that............Donchaknow..........DumbAss............- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > > AmeriKKKan courts have no power to control the Venezuelan oil fields.
> > > Neither does Exxon.  $12 billion is chump change.  You lose.  <snicker>- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > I guess you DIDN'T Read The Article, Charlene............You were Too
> > Busy being a RAVING LUNATIC............Donchaknow.............."Exxon
> > said on Thursday it has received court orders in Britain, the
> > Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each freezing up to $12
> > billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. "- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> UP TO $12 billion in several countries still is chump change, fool.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


It's only the BEGINNING, Charlene............Heehee...........
 
Yak yakked:

> On Feb 9, 4:02 am, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 9, 6:43 am, "theloneranger...@aol.com"

>
> > <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > On Feb 8, 5:32 pm, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:

>
> > > > On Feb 8, 3:10�pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com"

>
> > > > <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > Yup........Ain't It a HOOT?...........Heehee............

>
> > > > > "Exxon wins freeze on $12 billion of Venezuelan assets By Michael
> > > > > Erman
> > > > > Thu Feb 7, 7:35 PM ET

>
> > > > > NEW YORK (Reuters) - Exxon Mobil Corp (XOM.N) has won court orders
> > > > > freezing up to $12 billion in Venezuelan assets around the world as it
> > > > > fights for compensation for operations lost to President Hugo Chavez's
> > > > > nationalization drive.

>
> > > > > The largest U.S. company sought the asset freeze to guarantee
> > > > > repayment should it win arbitration over the Cerro Negro heavy oil
> > > > > project.

>
> > > > > The move is the boldest challenge yet by an international oil major
> > > > > against any of the governments around the world that have moved to
> > > > > increase their holds on natural resources as energy and commodity
> > > > > prices have soared.

>
> > > > > "To me it sounds like a very aggressive tactic," said Stephen Zamora,
> > > > > professor of international law at the University of Houston Law
> > > > > Center.

>
> > > > > "I can't really say that I'm aware this has been used in other
> > > > > investment disputes. They may be trying to get the government to
> > > > > settle."

>
> > > > > Exxon -- which last week posted the largest ever year's profit by a
> > > > > U.S. company -- said on Thursday it has received court orders in
> > > > > Britain, the Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each freezing up
> > > > > to $12 billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. An Exxon
> > > > > spokeswoman said the total that could be frozen worldwide was $12
> > > > > billion.

>
> > > > > Exxon also won a court order from the U.S. District Court for the
> > > > > Southern District of New York in December freezing more than $300
> > > > > million belonging to PDVSA, seeking to guarantee repayment should it
> > > > > win the arbitration.

>
> > > > > PDVSA, one of the largest suppliers of crude oil to the United States,
> > > > > was not immediately available for comment. The White House and the
> > > > > U.S. State Department also declined to comment.

>
> > > > > Venezuela's sovereign bonds sold off after the court orders surfaced.

>
> > > > > Left-winger Chavez, who regularly clashes with the Bush
> > > > > administration, took over Exxon Mobil and ConocoPhillips (COP.N)
> > > > > stakes in multibillion-dollar heavy oil projects in Venezuela's oil
> > > > > region last June.

>
> > > > > The move was part of the left-wing leader's drive to nationalize key
> > > > > industries including utilities and telecommunications companies owned
> > > > > by private companies.

>
> > > > > CHALLENGE TO CHAVEZ

>
> > > > > The news comes as a tough blow to Chavez, who suffered a stinging
> > > > > defeat in a December referendum that would have let him run
> > > > > indefinitely for reelection and enshrine socialism as the OPEC
> > > > > nation's economic system.

>
> > > > > PDVSA is already facing growing debt and increasing operational
> > > > > problems that analysts attribute to underinvestment caused by the
> > > > > company's massive contributions to Chavez's social programs.

>
> > > > > But the near-term effect of the Exxon legal maneuver on PDVSA's day-to-
> > > > > day operations was not immediately clear.

>
> > > > > The South American nation has an extensive overseas refining network,
> > > > > including the Citgo refining and marketing branch in the United
> > > > > States.

>
> > > > > Exxon said in court filings that recent estimates have placed PDVSA's
> > > > > global asset value -- including its operations in Venezuela -- at over
> > > > > $62 billion

>
> > > > > PDVSA's European refining assets, principally a 50 percent share in
> > > > > the German refining joint venture Ruhr Oel, were held through a
> > > > > Netherlands Company PDV Europa BV, according to filings PDVSA made
> > > > > with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in 2006.

>
> > > > > Exxon filed for arbitration in September with the International Centre
> > > > > for Settlement of Investment Disputes.

>
> > > > > Exxon has not specified how much it wants for the 41.7 percent stake
> > > > > in the Cerro Negro project, but it has said its remaining book
> > > > > investment in the project was about $750 million at the time the
> > > > > assets were expropriated.

>
> > > > > The move underscores Exxon's reputation for toughness in dealing with
> > > > > foes as varied as governments and fishermen, as it has been willing to
> > > > > wage prolonged legal battles to defend its interests around the
> > > > > world.

>
> > > > > Amy Meyers Jaffe, energy policy researcher at Rice's Baker Institute,
> > > > > said the case could have far-reaching implications.

>
> > > > > "These are precedents that are going to be important for what people
> > > > > can and cannot do in the oil industry," she said.

>
> > > > > ConocoPhillips spokesman William Tanner said his company "continues to
> > > > > discuss an amicable resolution regarding the assets that were
> > > > > expropriated in Venezuela."

>
> > > > > Conoco filed for arbitration over the dispute in November.

>
> > > > > Venezuela's benchmark global bond due 2027 lost 2.375 points in price
> > > > > to be bid 98.938, while total returns offered by the country's debt
> > > > > slipped 1.52 percent according to the JP Morgan EMBI+ index. "

>
> > > > $12 billion seized by Exxon?  Chump change!  Chavez has the biggest
> > > > oil reserves in the world.  Chavez can choose among many companies to
> > > > take Exxon's place.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > > No he CAN'T, Charlene..........Courts DON'T do
> > > that............Donchaknow..........DumbAss............- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > AmeriKKKan courts have no power to control the Venezuelan oil fields.
> > Neither does Exxon.  $12 billion is chump change.  You lose.  <snicker>- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> I guess you DIDN'T Read The Article, Charlene............You were Too
> Busy being a RAVING LUNATIC............Donchaknow.............."Exxon
> said on Thursday it has received court orders in Britain, the
> Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each freezing up to $12
> billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. "




Yup...besides which Venezuala NEEDS sophisticated US oil refining
techniques and capacity in order to make their oil SALEABLE on the
world market.......they'd CROAK without us......they'd be DEAD in the
WATER.......something that CharLOON's "mind" already IS.........


--
Best
Greg
 
Did you like how the oil companies slapped Americans around during a
recession, during a state of war? Did you like how they slap our
President and our Congress around?

You're a moron, plain and simple.
 
The beginning of what?


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On Feb 9, 6:59 pm, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Feb 9, 4:09 pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com"
>
>
>
>
>
> <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 9, 4:02 am, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:

>
> > > On Feb 9, 6:43 am, "theloneranger...@aol.com"

>
> > > <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > On Feb 8, 5:32 pm, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:

>
> > > > > On Feb 8, 3:10?pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com"

>
> > > > > <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Yup........Ain't It a HOOT?...........Heehee............

>
> > > > > > "Exxon wins freeze on $12 billion of Venezuelan assets By

Michael
> > > > > > Erman
> > > > > > Thu Feb 7, 7:35 PM ET

>
> > > > > > NEW YORK (Reuters) - Exxon Mobil Corp (XOM.N) has won court

orders
> > > > > > freezing up to $12 billion in Venezuelan assets around the world

as it
> > > > > > fights for compensation for operations lost to President Hugo

Chavez's
> > > > > > nationalization drive.

>
> > > > > > The largest U.S. company sought the asset freeze to guarantee
> > > > > > repayment should it win arbitration over the Cerro Negro heavy

oil
> > > > > > project.

>
> > > > > > The move is the boldest challenge yet by an international oil

major
> > > > > > against any of the governments around the world that have moved

to
> > > > > > increase their holds on natural resources as energy and

commodity
> > > > > > prices have soared.

>
> > > > > > "To me it sounds like a very aggressive tactic," said Stephen

Zamora,
> > > > > > professor of international law at the University of Houston Law
> > > > > > Center.

>
> > > > > > "I can't really say that I'm aware this has been used in other
> > > > > > investment disputes. They may be trying to get the government to
> > > > > > settle."

>
> > > > > > Exxon -- which last week posted the largest ever year's profit

by a
> > > > > > U.S. company -- said on Thursday it has received court orders in
> > > > > > Britain, the Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each

freezing up
> > > > > > to $12 billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. An

Exxon
> > > > > > spokeswoman said the total that could be frozen worldwide was

$12
> > > > > > billion.

>
> > > > > > Exxon also won a court order from the U.S. District Court for

the
> > > > > > Southern District of New York in December freezing more than

$300
> > > > > > million belonging to PDVSA, seeking to guarantee repayment

should it
> > > > > > win the arbitration.

>
> > > > > > PDVSA, one of the largest suppliers of crude oil to the United

States,
> > > > > > was not immediately available for comment. The White House and

the
> > > > > > U.S. State Department also declined to comment.

>
> > > > > > Venezuela's sovereign bonds sold off after the court orders

surfaced.
>
> > > > > > Left-winger Chavez, who regularly clashes with the Bush
> > > > > > administration, took over Exxon Mobil and ConocoPhillips (COP.N)
> > > > > > stakes in multibillion-dollar heavy oil projects in Venezuela's

oil
> > > > > > region last June.

>
> > > > > > The move was part of the left-wing leader's drive to nationalize

key
> > > > > > industries including utilities and telecommunications companies

owned
> > > > > > by private companies.

>
> > > > > > CHALLENGE TO CHAVEZ

>
> > > > > > The news comes as a tough blow to Chavez, who suffered a

stinging
> > > > > > defeat in a December referendum that would have let him run
> > > > > > indefinitely for reelection and enshrine socialism as the OPEC
> > > > > > nation's economic system.

>
> > > > > > PDVSA is already facing growing debt and increasing operational
> > > > > > problems that analysts attribute to underinvestment caused by

the
> > > > > > company's massive contributions to Chavez's social programs.

>
> > > > > > But the near-term effect of the Exxon legal maneuver on PDVSA's

day-to-
> > > > > > day operations was not immediately clear.

>
> > > > > > The South American nation has an extensive overseas refining

network,
> > > > > > including the Citgo refining and marketing branch in the United
> > > > > > States.

>
> > > > > > Exxon said in court filings that recent estimates have placed

PDVSA's
> > > > > > global asset value -- including its operations in Venezuela --

at over
> > > > > > $62 billion

>
> > > > > > PDVSA's European refining assets, principally a 50 percent share

in
> > > > > > the German refining joint venture Ruhr Oel, were held through a
> > > > > > Netherlands Company PDV Europa BV, according to filings PDVSA

made
> > > > > > with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in 2006.

>
> > > > > > Exxon filed for arbitration in September with the International

Centre
> > > > > > for Settlement of Investment Disputes.

>
> > > > > > Exxon has not specified how much it wants for the 41.7 percent

stake
> > > > > > in the Cerro Negro project, but it has said its remaining book
> > > > > > investment in the project was about $750 million at the time the
> > > > > > assets were expropriated.

>
> > > > > > The move underscores Exxon's reputation for toughness in dealing

with
> > > > > > foes as varied as governments and fishermen, as it has been

willing to
> > > > > > wage prolonged legal battles to defend its interests around the
> > > > > > world.

>
> > > > > > Amy Meyers Jaffe, energy policy researcher at Rice's Baker

Institute,
> > > > > > said the case could have far-reaching implications.

>
> > > > > > "These are precedents that are going to be important for what

people
> > > > > > can and cannot do in the oil industry," she said.

>
> > > > > > ConocoPhillips spokesman William Tanner said his company

"continues to
> > > > > > discuss an amicable resolution regarding the assets that were
> > > > > > expropriated in Venezuela."

>
> > > > > > Conoco filed for arbitration over the dispute in November.

>
> > > > > > Venezuela's benchmark global bond due 2027 lost 2.375 points in

price
> > > > > > to be bid 98.938, while total returns offered by the country's

debt
> > > > > > slipped 1.52 percent according to the JP Morgan EMBI+ index. "

>
> > > > > $12 billion seized by Exxon? Chump change! Chavez has the biggest
> > > > > oil reserves in the world. Chavez can choose among many companies

to
> > > > > take Exxon's place.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > > > No he CAN'T, Charlene..........Courts DON'T do
> > > > that............Donchaknow..........DumbAss............- Hide quoted

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>
> > > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > > AmeriKKKan courts have no power to control the Venezuelan oil fields.
> > > Neither does Exxon. $12 billion is chump change. You lose. <snicker>-

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> > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > I guess you DIDN'T Read The Article, Charlene............You were Too
> > Busy being a RAVING LUNATIC............Donchaknow.............."Exxon
> > said on Thursday it has received court orders in Britain, the
> > Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each freezing up to $12
> > billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. "- Hide quoted

text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> UP TO $12 billion in several countries still is chump change, fool.- Hide

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>
> - Show quoted text -


It's only the BEGINNING, Charlene............Heehee...........
 
On Feb 10, 7:40 am, Gregory Morrow <gregorymor...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> Yak yakked:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 9, 4:02 am, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:

>
> > > On Feb 9, 6:43 am, "theloneranger...@aol.com"

>
> > > <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > On Feb 8, 5:32 pm, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:

>
> > > > > On Feb 8, 3:10�pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com"

>
> > > > > <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Yup........Ain't It a HOOT?...........Heehee............

>
> > > > > > "Exxon wins freeze on $12 billion of Venezuelan assets By Michael
> > > > > > Erman
> > > > > > Thu Feb 7, 7:35 PM ET

>
> > > > > > NEW YORK (Reuters) - Exxon Mobil Corp (XOM.N) has won court orders
> > > > > > freezing up to $12 billion in Venezuelan assets around the world as it
> > > > > > fights for compensation for operations lost to President Hugo Chavez's
> > > > > > nationalization drive.

>
> > > > > > The largest U.S. company sought the asset freeze to guarantee
> > > > > > repayment should it win arbitration over the Cerro Negro heavy oil
> > > > > > project.

>
> > > > > > The move is the boldest challenge yet by an international oil major
> > > > > > against any of the governments around the world that have moved to
> > > > > > increase their holds on natural resources as energy and commodity
> > > > > > prices have soared.

>
> > > > > > "To me it sounds like a very aggressive tactic," said Stephen Zamora,
> > > > > > professor of international law at the University of Houston Law
> > > > > > Center.

>
> > > > > > "I can't really say that I'm aware this has been used in other
> > > > > > investment disputes. They may be trying to get the government to
> > > > > > settle."

>
> > > > > > Exxon -- which last week posted the largest ever year's profit by a
> > > > > > U.S. company -- said on Thursday it has received court orders in
> > > > > > Britain, the Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each freezing up
> > > > > > to $12 billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. An Exxon
> > > > > > spokeswoman said the total that could be frozen worldwide was $12
> > > > > > billion.

>
> > > > > > Exxon also won a court order from the U.S. District Court for the
> > > > > > Southern District of New York in December freezing more than $300
> > > > > > million belonging to PDVSA, seeking to guarantee repayment should it
> > > > > > win the arbitration.

>
> > > > > > PDVSA, one of the largest suppliers of crude oil to the United States,
> > > > > > was not immediately available for comment. The White House and the
> > > > > > U.S. State Department also declined to comment.

>
> > > > > > Venezuela's sovereign bonds sold off after the court orders surfaced.

>
> > > > > > Left-winger Chavez, who regularly clashes with the Bush
> > > > > > administration, took over Exxon Mobil and ConocoPhillips (COP.N)
> > > > > > stakes in multibillion-dollar heavy oil projects in Venezuela's oil
> > > > > > region last June.

>
> > > > > > The move was part of the left-wing leader's drive to nationalize key
> > > > > > industries including utilities and telecommunications companies owned
> > > > > > by private companies.

>
> > > > > > CHALLENGE TO CHAVEZ

>
> > > > > > The news comes as a tough blow to Chavez, who suffered a stinging
> > > > > > defeat in a December referendum that would have let him run
> > > > > > indefinitely for reelection and enshrine socialism as the OPEC
> > > > > > nation's economic system.

>
> > > > > > PDVSA is already facing growing debt and increasing operational
> > > > > > problems that analysts attribute to underinvestment caused by the
> > > > > > company's massive contributions to Chavez's social programs.

>
> > > > > > But the near-term effect of the Exxon legal maneuver on PDVSA's day-to-
> > > > > > day operations was not immediately clear.

>
> > > > > > The South American nation has an extensive overseas refining network,
> > > > > > including the Citgo refining and marketing branch in the United
> > > > > > States.

>
> > > > > > Exxon said in court filings that recent estimates have placed PDVSA's
> > > > > > global asset value -- including its operations in Venezuela -- at over
> > > > > > $62 billion

>
> > > > > > PDVSA's European refining assets, principally a 50 percent share in
> > > > > > the German refining joint venture Ruhr Oel, were held through a
> > > > > > Netherlands Company PDV Europa BV, according to filings PDVSA made
> > > > > > with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in 2006.

>
> > > > > > Exxon filed for arbitration in September with the International Centre
> > > > > > for Settlement of Investment Disputes.

>
> > > > > > Exxon has not specified how much it wants for the 41.7 percent stake
> > > > > > in the Cerro Negro project, but it has said its remaining book
> > > > > > investment in the project was about $750 million at the time the
> > > > > > assets were expropriated.

>
> > > > > > The move underscores Exxon's reputation for toughness in dealing with
> > > > > > foes as varied as governments and fishermen, as it has been willing to
> > > > > > wage prolonged legal battles to defend its interests around the
> > > > > > world.

>
> > > > > > Amy Meyers Jaffe, energy policy researcher at Rice's Baker Institute,
> > > > > > said the case could have far-reaching implications.

>
> > > > > > "These are precedents that are going to be important for what people
> > > > > > can and cannot do in the oil industry," she said.

>
> > > > > > ConocoPhillips spokesman William Tanner said his company "continues to
> > > > > > discuss an amicable resolution regarding the assets that were
> > > > > > expropriated in Venezuela."

>
> > > > > > Conoco filed for arbitration over the dispute in November.

>
> > > > > > Venezuela's benchmark global bond due 2027 lost 2.375 points in price
> > > > > > to be bid 98.938, while total returns offered by the country's debt
> > > > > > slipped 1.52 percent according to the JP Morgan EMBI+ index. "

>
> > > > > $12 billion seized by Exxon?  Chump change!  Chavez has the biggest
> > > > > oil reserves in the world.  Chavez can choose among many companies to
> > > > > take Exxon's place.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > > > No he CAN'T, Charlene..........Courts DON'T do
> > > > that............Donchaknow..........DumbAss............- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > > AmeriKKKan courts have no power to control the Venezuelan oil fields.
> > > Neither does Exxon.  $12 billion is chump change.  You lose.  <snicker>- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > I guess you DIDN'T Read The Article, Charlene............You were Too
> > Busy being a RAVING LUNATIC............Donchaknow.............."Exxon
> > said on Thursday it has received court orders in Britain, the
> > Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each freezing up to $12
> > billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. "

>
> Yup...besides which Venezuala NEEDS sophisticated US oil refining
> techniques and capacity in order to make their oil SALEABLE on the
> world market.......they'd CROAK without us......they'd be DEAD in the
> WATER.......something that CharLOON's "mind" already IS.........
>
> --
> Best
> Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Lots of international oil companies provide refining technology, you
****ing fool! <snicker!>

Cuba is the perfect example -- many companies bid to pump and refine
oil and gas from Cuba's huge new offshore reserves, but AmeriKKKa was
excluded by its own foolish embargo!! <chortle!!>

Maybe OzTardO can help you understand basic technical concepts --
after he learns to count above 2 digits and use a Thermidistat!!!
<guffaw!!!>
 
You're Really STUPID, You Little Retarded *******..........You Know
That, Doncha?...........

On Feb 10, 8:23�am, "robw" <noddy...@comcast.net> wrote:
> The beginning of what?
>
> <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:38e753c0-7e60-4014-a9b0-d797cea319c2@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 9, 6:59 pm, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 9, 4:09 pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com"

>
> > <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > On Feb 9, 4:02 am, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:

>
> > > > On Feb 9, 6:43 am, "theloneranger...@aol.com"

>
> > > > <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Feb 8, 5:32 pm, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:

>
> > > > > > On Feb 8, 3:10?pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com"

>
> > > > > > <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Yup........Ain't It a HOOT?...........Heehee............

>
> > > > > > > "Exxon wins freeze on $12 billion of Venezuelan assets By

> Michael
> > > > > > > Erman
> > > > > > > Thu Feb 7, 7:35 PM ET

>
> > > > > > > NEW YORK (Reuters) - Exxon Mobil Corp (XOM.N) has won court

> orders
> > > > > > > freezing up to $12 billion in Venezuelan assets around the world

> as it
> > > > > > > fights for compensation for operations lost to President Hugo

> Chavez's
> > > > > > > nationalization drive.

>
> > > > > > > The largest U.S. company sought the asset freeze to guarantee
> > > > > > > repayment should it win arbitration over the Cerro Negro heavy

> oil
> > > > > > > project.

>
> > > > > > > The move is the boldest challenge yet by an international oil

> major
> > > > > > > against any of the governments around the world that have moved

> to
> > > > > > > increase their holds on natural resources as energy and

> commodity
> > > > > > > prices have soared.

>
> > > > > > > "To me it sounds like a very aggressive tactic," said Stephen

> Zamora,
> > > > > > > professor of international law at the University of Houston Law
> > > > > > > Center.

>
> > > > > > > "I can't really say that I'm aware this has been used in other
> > > > > > > investment disputes. They may be trying to get the government to
> > > > > > > settle."

>
> > > > > > > Exxon -- which last week posted the largest ever year's profit

> by a
> > > > > > > U.S. company -- said on Thursday it has received court orders in
> > > > > > > Britain, the Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each

> freezing up
> > > > > > > to $12 billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. An

> Exxon
> > > > > > > spokeswoman said the total that could be frozen worldwide was

> $12
> > > > > > > billion.

>
> > > > > > > Exxon also won a court order from the U.S. District Court for

> the
> > > > > > > Southern District of New York in December freezing more than

> $300
> > > > > > > million belonging to PDVSA, seeking to guarantee repayment

> should it
> > > > > > > win the arbitration.

>
> > > > > > > PDVSA, one of the largest suppliers of crude oil to the United

> States,
> > > > > > > was not immediately available for comment. The White House and

> the
> > > > > > > U.S. State Department also declined to comment.

>
> > > > > > > Venezuela's sovereign bonds sold off after the court orders

> surfaced.
>
> > > > > > > Left-winger Chavez, who regularly clashes with the Bush
> > > > > > > administration, took over Exxon Mobil and ConocoPhillips (COP.N)
> > > > > > > stakes in multibillion-dollar heavy oil projects in Venezuela's

> oil
> > > > > > > region last June.

>
> > > > > > > The move was part of the left-wing leader's drive to nationalize

> key
> > > > > > > industries including utilities and telecommunications companies

> owned
> > > > > > > by private companies.

>
> > > > > > > CHALLENGE TO CHAVEZ

>
> > > > > > > The news comes as a tough blow to Chavez, who suffered a

> stinging
> > > > > > > defeat in a December referendum that would have let him run
> > > > > > > indefinitely for reelection and enshrine socialism as the OPEC
> > > > > > > nation's economic system.

>
> > > > > > > PDVSA is already facing growing debt and increasing operational
> > > > > > > problems that analysts attribute to underinvestment caused by

> the
> > > > > > > company's massive contributions to Chavez's social programs.

>
> > > > > > > But the near-term effect of the Exxon legal maneuver on PDVSA's

> day-to-
> > > > > > > day operations was not immediately clear.

>
> > > > > > > The South American nation has an extensive overseas refining

> network,
> > > > > > > including the Citgo refining and marketing branch in the United
> > > > > > > States.

>
> > > > > > > Exxon said in court filings that recent estimates have placed

> PDVSA's
> > > > > > > global asset value -- including its operations in Venezuela --

> at over
> > > > > > > $62 billion

>
> > > > > > > PDVSA's European refining assets, principally a 50 percent share

> in
> > > > > > > the German refining joint venture Ruhr Oel, were held through a
> > > > > > > Netherlands Company PDV Europa BV, according to filings PDVSA

> made
> > > > > > > with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in 2006.

>
> > > > > > > Exxon filed for arbitration in September with the International

> Centre
> > > > > > > for Settlement of Investment Disputes.

>
> > > > > > > Exxon has not specified how much it wants for the 41.7 percent

> stake
> > > > > > > in the Cerro Negro project, but it has said its remaining book
> > > > > > > investment in the project was about $750 million at the time the
> > > > > > > assets were expropriated.

>
> > > > > > > The move underscores Exxon's reputation for toughness in dealing

> with
> > > > > > > foes as varied as governments and fishermen, as it has been

> willing to
> > > > > > > wage prolonged legal battles to defend its interests around the
> > > > > > > world.

>
> > > > > > > Amy Meyers Jaffe, energy policy researcher at Rice's Baker

> Institute,
> > > > > > > said the case could have far-reaching implications.

>
> > > > > > > "These are precedents that are going to be important for what

> people
> > > > > > > can and cannot do in the oil industry," she said.

>
> > > > > > > ConocoPhillips spokesman William Tanner said his company

> "continues to
> > > > > > > discuss an amicable resolution regarding the assets that were
> > > > > > > expropriated in Venezuela."

>
> > > > > > > Conoco filed for arbitration over the dispute in November.

>
> > > > > > > Venezuela's benchmark global bond due 2027 lost 2.375 points in

> price
> > > > > > > to be bid 98.938, while total returns offered by the country's

> debt
> > > > > > > slipped 1.52 percent according to the JP Morgan EMBI+ index. "

>
> > > > > > $12 billion seized by Exxon? Chump change! Chavez has the biggest
> > > > > > oil reserves in the world. Chavez can choose among many companies

> to
> > > > > > take Exxon's place.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > > > > No he CAN'T, Charlene..........Courts DON'T do
> > > > > that............Donchaknow..........DumbAss............- Hide quoted

> text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > > > AmeriKKKan courts have no power to control the Venezuelan oil fields..
> > > > Neither does Exxon. $12 billion is chump change. You lose. <snicker>-

> Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > > I guess you DIDN'T Read The Article, Charlene............You were Too
> > > Busy being a RAVING LUNATIC............Donchaknow.............."Exxon
> > > said on Thursday it has received court orders in Britain, the
> > > Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each freezing up to $12
> > > billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. "- Hide quoted

> text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > UP TO $12 billion in several countries still is chump change, fool.- Hide

> quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> It's only the BEGINNING, Charlene............Heehee...........- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
 
The beginning of what?


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On Feb 10, 8:23?am, "robw" <noddy...@comcast.net> wrote:
> The beginning of what?
>
> <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:38e753c0-7e60-4014-a9b0-d797cea319c2@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 9, 6:59 pm, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 9, 4:09 pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com"

>
> > <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > On Feb 9, 4:02 am, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:

>
> > > > On Feb 9, 6:43 am, "theloneranger...@aol.com"

>
> > > > <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Feb 8, 5:32 pm, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:

>
> > > > > > On Feb 8, 3:10?pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com"

>
> > > > > > <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Yup........Ain't It a HOOT?...........Heehee............

>
> > > > > > > "Exxon wins freeze on $12 billion of Venezuelan assets By

> Michael
> > > > > > > Erman
> > > > > > > Thu Feb 7, 7:35 PM ET

>
> > > > > > > NEW YORK (Reuters) - Exxon Mobil Corp (XOM.N) has won court

> orders
> > > > > > > freezing up to $12 billion in Venezuelan assets around the

world
> as it
> > > > > > > fights for compensation for operations lost to President Hugo

> Chavez's
> > > > > > > nationalization drive.

>
> > > > > > > The largest U.S. company sought the asset freeze to guarantee
> > > > > > > repayment should it win arbitration over the Cerro Negro heavy

> oil
> > > > > > > project.

>
> > > > > > > The move is the boldest challenge yet by an international oil

> major
> > > > > > > against any of the governments around the world that have

moved
> to
> > > > > > > increase their holds on natural resources as energy and

> commodity
> > > > > > > prices have soared.

>
> > > > > > > "To me it sounds like a very aggressive tactic," said Stephen

> Zamora,
> > > > > > > professor of international law at the University of Houston

Law
> > > > > > > Center.

>
> > > > > > > "I can't really say that I'm aware this has been used in other
> > > > > > > investment disputes. They may be trying to get the government

to
> > > > > > > settle."

>
> > > > > > > Exxon -- which last week posted the largest ever year's profit

> by a
> > > > > > > U.S. company -- said on Thursday it has received court orders

in
> > > > > > > Britain, the Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each

> freezing up
> > > > > > > to $12 billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. An

> Exxon
> > > > > > > spokeswoman said the total that could be frozen worldwide was

> $12
> > > > > > > billion.

>
> > > > > > > Exxon also won a court order from the U.S. District Court for

> the
> > > > > > > Southern District of New York in December freezing more than

> $300
> > > > > > > million belonging to PDVSA, seeking to guarantee repayment

> should it
> > > > > > > win the arbitration.

>
> > > > > > > PDVSA, one of the largest suppliers of crude oil to the United

> States,
> > > > > > > was not immediately available for comment. The White House and

> the
> > > > > > > U.S. State Department also declined to comment.

>
> > > > > > > Venezuela's sovereign bonds sold off after the court orders

> surfaced.
>
> > > > > > > Left-winger Chavez, who regularly clashes with the Bush
> > > > > > > administration, took over Exxon Mobil and ConocoPhillips

(COP.N)
> > > > > > > stakes in multibillion-dollar heavy oil projects in

Venezuela's
> oil
> > > > > > > region last June.

>
> > > > > > > The move was part of the left-wing leader's drive to

nationalize
> key
> > > > > > > industries including utilities and telecommunications

companies
> owned
> > > > > > > by private companies.

>
> > > > > > > CHALLENGE TO CHAVEZ

>
> > > > > > > The news comes as a tough blow to Chavez, who suffered a

> stinging
> > > > > > > defeat in a December referendum that would have let him run
> > > > > > > indefinitely for reelection and enshrine socialism as the OPEC
> > > > > > > nation's economic system.

>
> > > > > > > PDVSA is already facing growing debt and increasing

operational
> > > > > > > problems that analysts attribute to underinvestment caused by

> the
> > > > > > > company's massive contributions to Chavez's social programs.

>
> > > > > > > But the near-term effect of the Exxon legal maneuver on

PDVSA's
> day-to-
> > > > > > > day operations was not immediately clear.

>
> > > > > > > The South American nation has an extensive overseas refining

> network,
> > > > > > > including the Citgo refining and marketing branch in the

United
> > > > > > > States.

>
> > > > > > > Exxon said in court filings that recent estimates have placed

> PDVSA's
> > > > > > > global asset value -- including its operations in Venezuela --

> at over
> > > > > > > $62 billion

>
> > > > > > > PDVSA's European refining assets, principally a 50 percent

share
> in
> > > > > > > the German refining joint venture Ruhr Oel, were held through

a
> > > > > > > Netherlands Company PDV Europa BV, according to filings PDVSA

> made
> > > > > > > with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in 2006.

>
> > > > > > > Exxon filed for arbitration in September with the

International
> Centre
> > > > > > > for Settlement of Investment Disputes.

>
> > > > > > > Exxon has not specified how much it wants for the 41.7 percent

> stake
> > > > > > > in the Cerro Negro project, but it has said its remaining book
> > > > > > > investment in the project was about $750 million at the time

the
> > > > > > > assets were expropriated.

>
> > > > > > > The move underscores Exxon's reputation for toughness in

dealing
> with
> > > > > > > foes as varied as governments and fishermen, as it has been

> willing to
> > > > > > > wage prolonged legal battles to defend its interests around

the
> > > > > > > world.

>
> > > > > > > Amy Meyers Jaffe, energy policy researcher at Rice's Baker

> Institute,
> > > > > > > said the case could have far-reaching implications.

>
> > > > > > > "These are precedents that are going to be important for what

> people
> > > > > > > can and cannot do in the oil industry," she said.

>
> > > > > > > ConocoPhillips spokesman William Tanner said his company

> "continues to
> > > > > > > discuss an amicable resolution regarding the assets that were
> > > > > > > expropriated in Venezuela."

>
> > > > > > > Conoco filed for arbitration over the dispute in November.

>
> > > > > > > Venezuela's benchmark global bond due 2027 lost 2.375 points

in
> price
> > > > > > > to be bid 98.938, while total returns offered by the country's

> debt
> > > > > > > slipped 1.52 percent according to the JP Morgan EMBI+ index. "

>
> > > > > > $12 billion seized by Exxon? Chump change! Chavez has the

biggest
> > > > > > oil reserves in the world. Chavez can choose among many

companies
> to
> > > > > > take Exxon's place.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > > > > No he CAN'T, Charlene..........Courts DON'T do
> > > > > that............Donchaknow..........DumbAss............- Hide

quoted
> text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > > > AmeriKKKan courts have no power to control the Venezuelan oil

fields.
> > > > Neither does Exxon. $12 billion is chump change. You lose.

<snicker>-
> Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > > I guess you DIDN'T Read The Article, Charlene............You were Too
> > > Busy being a RAVING LUNATIC............Donchaknow.............."Exxon
> > > said on Thursday it has received court orders in Britain, the
> > > Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each freezing up to $12
> > > billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. "- Hide quoted

> text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > UP TO $12 billion in several countries still is chump change, fool.-

Hide
> quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> It's only the BEGINNING, Charlene............Heehee...........- Hide

quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
 
<theloneranger100@aol.com> wrote in message
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You're Really STUPID, You Little Retarded *******..........You Know
That, Doncha?...........

Why do you keep on feeding the retarded little troll?



On Feb 10, 8:23?am, "robw" <noddy...@comcast.net> wrote:
> The beginning of what?
>
> <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:38e753c0-7e60-4014-a9b0-d797cea319c2@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 9, 6:59 pm, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 9, 4:09 pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com"

>
> > <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > On Feb 9, 4:02 am, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:

>
> > > > On Feb 9, 6:43 am, "theloneranger...@aol.com"

>
> > > > <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Feb 8, 5:32 pm, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:

>
> > > > > > On Feb 8, 3:10?pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com"

>
> > > > > > <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Yup........Ain't It a HOOT?...........Heehee............

>
> > > > > > > "Exxon wins freeze on $12 billion of Venezuelan assets By

> Michael
> > > > > > > Erman
> > > > > > > Thu Feb 7, 7:35 PM ET

>
> > > > > > > NEW YORK (Reuters) - Exxon Mobil Corp (XOM.N) has won court

> orders
> > > > > > > freezing up to $12 billion in Venezuelan assets around the
> > > > > > > world

> as it
> > > > > > > fights for compensation for operations lost to President Hugo

> Chavez's
> > > > > > > nationalization drive.

>
> > > > > > > The largest U.S. company sought the asset freeze to guarantee
> > > > > > > repayment should it win arbitration over the Cerro Negro heavy

> oil
> > > > > > > project.

>
> > > > > > > The move is the boldest challenge yet by an international oil

> major
> > > > > > > against any of the governments around the world that have
> > > > > > > moved

> to
> > > > > > > increase their holds on natural resources as energy and

> commodity
> > > > > > > prices have soared.

>
> > > > > > > "To me it sounds like a very aggressive tactic," said Stephen

> Zamora,
> > > > > > > professor of international law at the University of Houston
> > > > > > > Law
> > > > > > > Center.

>
> > > > > > > "I can't really say that I'm aware this has been used in other
> > > > > > > investment disputes. They may be trying to get the government
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > settle."

>
> > > > > > > Exxon -- which last week posted the largest ever year's profit

> by a
> > > > > > > U.S. company -- said on Thursday it has received court orders
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > Britain, the Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each

> freezing up
> > > > > > > to $12 billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. An

> Exxon
> > > > > > > spokeswoman said the total that could be frozen worldwide was

> $12
> > > > > > > billion.

>
> > > > > > > Exxon also won a court order from the U.S. District Court for

> the
> > > > > > > Southern District of New York in December freezing more than

> $300
> > > > > > > million belonging to PDVSA, seeking to guarantee repayment

> should it
> > > > > > > win the arbitration.

>
> > > > > > > PDVSA, one of the largest suppliers of crude oil to the United

> States,
> > > > > > > was not immediately available for comment. The White House and

> the
> > > > > > > U.S. State Department also declined to comment.

>
> > > > > > > Venezuela's sovereign bonds sold off after the court orders

> surfaced.
>
> > > > > > > Left-winger Chavez, who regularly clashes with the Bush
> > > > > > > administration, took over Exxon Mobil and ConocoPhillips
> > > > > > > (COP.N)
> > > > > > > stakes in multibillion-dollar heavy oil projects in
> > > > > > > Venezuela's

> oil
> > > > > > > region last June.

>
> > > > > > > The move was part of the left-wing leader's drive to
> > > > > > > nationalize

> key
> > > > > > > industries including utilities and telecommunications
> > > > > > > companies

> owned
> > > > > > > by private companies.

>
> > > > > > > CHALLENGE TO CHAVEZ

>
> > > > > > > The news comes as a tough blow to Chavez, who suffered a

> stinging
> > > > > > > defeat in a December referendum that would have let him run
> > > > > > > indefinitely for reelection and enshrine socialism as the OPEC
> > > > > > > nation's economic system.

>
> > > > > > > PDVSA is already facing growing debt and increasing
> > > > > > > operational
> > > > > > > problems that analysts attribute to underinvestment caused by

> the
> > > > > > > company's massive contributions to Chavez's social programs.

>
> > > > > > > But the near-term effect of the Exxon legal maneuver on
> > > > > > > PDVSA's

> day-to-
> > > > > > > day operations was not immediately clear.

>
> > > > > > > The South American nation has an extensive overseas refining

> network,
> > > > > > > including the Citgo refining and marketing branch in the
> > > > > > > United
> > > > > > > States.

>
> > > > > > > Exxon said in court filings that recent estimates have placed

> PDVSA's
> > > > > > > global asset value -- including its operations in Venezuela --

> at over
> > > > > > > $62 billion

>
> > > > > > > PDVSA's European refining assets, principally a 50 percent
> > > > > > > share

> in
> > > > > > > the German refining joint venture Ruhr Oel, were held through
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > Netherlands Company PDV Europa BV, according to filings PDVSA

> made
> > > > > > > with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in 2006.

>
> > > > > > > Exxon filed for arbitration in September with the
> > > > > > > International

> Centre
> > > > > > > for Settlement of Investment Disputes.

>
> > > > > > > Exxon has not specified how much it wants for the 41.7 percent

> stake
> > > > > > > in the Cerro Negro project, but it has said its remaining book
> > > > > > > investment in the project was about $750 million at the time
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > assets were expropriated.

>
> > > > > > > The move underscores Exxon's reputation for toughness in
> > > > > > > dealing

> with
> > > > > > > foes as varied as governments and fishermen, as it has been

> willing to
> > > > > > > wage prolonged legal battles to defend its interests around
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > world.

>
> > > > > > > Amy Meyers Jaffe, energy policy researcher at Rice's Baker

> Institute,
> > > > > > > said the case could have far-reaching implications.

>
> > > > > > > "These are precedents that are going to be important for what

> people
> > > > > > > can and cannot do in the oil industry," she said.

>
> > > > > > > ConocoPhillips spokesman William Tanner said his company

> "continues to
> > > > > > > discuss an amicable resolution regarding the assets that were
> > > > > > > expropriated in Venezuela."

>
> > > > > > > Conoco filed for arbitration over the dispute in November.

>
> > > > > > > Venezuela's benchmark global bond due 2027 lost 2.375 points
> > > > > > > in

> price
> > > > > > > to be bid 98.938, while total returns offered by the country's

> debt
> > > > > > > slipped 1.52 percent according to the JP Morgan EMBI+ index. "

>
> > > > > > $12 billion seized by Exxon? Chump change! Chavez has the
> > > > > > biggest
> > > > > > oil reserves in the world. Chavez can choose among many
> > > > > > companies

> to
> > > > > > take Exxon's place.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > > > > No he CAN'T, Charlene..........Courts DON'T do
> > > > > that............Donchaknow..........DumbAss............- Hide
> > > > > quoted

> text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > > > AmeriKKKan courts have no power to control the Venezuelan oil
> > > > fields.
> > > > Neither does Exxon. $12 billion is chump change. You lose.
> > > > <snicker>-

> Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > > I guess you DIDN'T Read The Article, Charlene............You were Too
> > > Busy being a RAVING LUNATIC............Donchaknow.............."Exxon
> > > said on Thursday it has received court orders in Britain, the
> > > Netherlands and the Netherlands Antilles each freezing up to $12
> > > billion in assets of Venezuela state oil firm PDVSA. "- Hide quoted

> text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > UP TO $12 billion in several countries still is chump change, fool.-
> > Hide

> quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> It's only the BEGINNING, Charlene............Heehee...........- Hide
> quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
 
On Feb 10, 2:30�pm, "ahso#1" <colum...@evuygt.com> wrote:
> <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d468578c-5311-45d0-aafa-660d86702879@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> You're Really STUPID, You Little Retarded *******..........You Know
> That, Doncha?...........
>
> Why do you keep on feeding the retarded little troll?


Because it's Funny to watch him make a Total Ass of
Himself.........Donchaknow.............Heehee.............
 
On Feb 10, 3:25�pm, topse...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 8, 3:10�pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com"
>
> <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
> > Yup........Ain't It a HOOT?...........Heehee............

>
> Yeah it is a hoot. �It will be a hoot when oil hits $120.


That's what the Leftist Pukes are Praying
For..........Donchaknow...........
 
Hey, when you and Col. Cupcake were Rush's cheerleaders this week.....you
wear matching uniforms??

heehee

Go Mitt Go!!!


<theloneranger100@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 10, 2:30?pm, "ahso#1" <colum...@evuygt.com> wrote:
> <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d468578c-5311-45d0-aafa-660d86702879@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> You're Really STUPID, You Little Retarded *******..........You Know
> That, Doncha?...........
>
> Why do you keep on feeding the retarded little troll?


Because it's Funny to watch him make a Total Ass of
Himself.........Donchaknow.............Heehee.............
 
<theloneranger100@aol.com> wrote in message
news:06bf18c8-9727-4f80-9d68-1844a34e5b61@v17g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 10, 2:30?pm, "ahso#1" <colum...@evuygt.com> wrote:
> <theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d468578c-5311-45d0-aafa-660d86702879@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> You're Really STUPID, You Little Retarded *******..........You Know
> That, Doncha?...........
>
> Why do you keep on feeding the retarded little troll?


Because it's Funny to watch him make a Total Ass of
Himself.........Donchaknow.............Heehee.

Well he does live in Philly and that's joke enough on anybody :(
 
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