Jhony5 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Recently a children's book has been released based on a true story about two "gay" penguins that raised a daughter penguin in the NY city zoo. http://shecomesfirst.typepad.com/ian_kerner/2005/07/tango_makes_thr.html http://www.amazon.com/Notable-Childrens-Younger-Readers-Awards/dp/0689878451 This children's book is attempting to be introduced into elementary school libraries. Just curious what y'all think of this. My opinion. Highly unnecessary to create this in a children's format. Seems like a preemptive attempt by the 'gay agenda' to format a child's mind to acceptance of same sex couples. Like I said, unnecessary at the very least. The couple have since split and joined up with female penguins. Quote i am sofa king we todd did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builder Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Fuck off you homophobic wanker. Let the kids have some fun time without your overiding rednecked fucked-up scenario that your cousin Cleetus cornholed you in the barn when you were seven. Not one of our kid's TV heroes actually had a gender connection. Quote Persevere, it pisses people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Eh, I kind of have to go with J5 on this one. All of you know I have no problem with homosexuality but it seems the PC liberals are purposely trying to influence the opinion of others by starting at a young and impressionable age. Quote Blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhony5 Posted November 17, 2006 Author Share Posted November 17, 2006 Fuck off you homophobic wanker. Let the kids have some fun time without your overiding rednecked fucked-up scenario that your cousin Cleetus cornholed you in the barn when you were seven. Not one of our kid's TV heroes actually had a gender connection. Whoa...reel yourself back in there, meathead. I simply don't know how to feel about such a thing. The book doesn't just show two male penguins raising a baby. It suggests that they are in love. It bothers me that its done in a children's format and they want it in school libraries. That being said. I see how it could be useful in teaching children to be accepting of same sex couples. I'm not upset or angry about this. Just....well it seems unnecessary. Children have enough of a time understanding the concept of procreation without throwing this new twist in. Explaining to a child how mommy and daddy make a baby is one thing. Explaning how daddy and daddy make a baby....well WTF do I do with that? Why is the term "Homophobe" always used in a manner to suggest one is afraid of gays because he/she either want to engage in homosexual relations, or they had been raped by a homosexual? Fucking silly ass stereotype, Builder. I'm not scared of gays. I don't hate gays. I question the motives of a children's book about gay animals. All I can say is WHY. Quote i am sofa king we todd did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisanbt Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Eh, I kind of have to go with J5 on this one. All of you know I have no problem with homosexuality but it seems the PC liberals are purposely trying to influence the opinion of others by starting at a young and impressionable age. The agenda of a story about 2 Penguins? I've noticed that they snuck in some japs and ******s into our school books too; the bastards are brainwashing our kids into thinking those animals are people! The idea is that it shouldn't at all matter that there were gay or not. Theres nothing wrong with normalizing tolerance. Let kids read about gay penguins, I doubt they're going into any sexual detail like "2 daddies, 4 beaks..". If kids read 'Pengu The Penguin' they have a little penguin with a mama and a papa (who are in love), nothing wrong with shwoing them that it isn't always/ dosn't have to be the case. Quote http://www.boohbah.com/zone.html "It's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards" -Lewis Carroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I understand that. There is nothing wrong with teaching tolerance at a young age but like J5 said, this seems like agenda-pushing. I'm not going to picket the library but this just seems a little too PC for me. Quote Blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhony5 Posted November 17, 2006 Author Share Posted November 17, 2006 Posted by Eisanbt: Let kids read about gay penguins, I doubt they're going into any sexual detail like "2 daddies, 4 beaks..". If kids read 'Pengu The Penguin' they have a little penguin with a mama and a papa (who are in love), nothing wrong with shwoing them that it isn't always/ dosn't have to be the case. Your completely missing my point. Your too busy trying to be PC and all fuckin nice about it. Its not that I think they are teaching kids that homosexuality is OK, and thats what making me angry. Its that children, elementary school children BTW, can't even grasp the idea of heterosexuality and reproduction. You think a child isn't smart enough too notice theres two daddys and no mommy? Enter complicated questions. All for the sake of the gay agenda. Now are we as society saying lets throw this curve ball at them too? As I said earlier......Explaining to a child how mommy and daddy make a baby is one thing. Explaining how daddy and daddy make a baby....well WTF do I do with that? Seriously people. Address that issue and get over your PC hang-ups about anti-gay statements. This isn't an anti-gay issue. I'm talking about confusion being added to a very young child's attempt at learning normal mating/reproduction issues. Ewwww I said NORMAL. I'm a fucking fag basher now, look at the monster everybody. Get over it. It is how it is. NORMALLY men and women pair up and mate and rear the young. Dispute it and your a liar. Flat out, this is a thinly veiled attempt by those whom wish to normalize same sex couples in our society too assimilate young children into the process of acceptance. Sounds good at first glance. Why not teach little kids to be accepting of gay couples? BECAUSE ITS FREAKING WEIRD TO DO THAT TO LITTLE KIDS, THATS WHY. They're kids, little kids. They don't need that shit in their library. My issue, my only issue, is that young children have no business trying to tackle this issue. I've noticed that they snuck in some japs and ******s into our school books too; the bastards are brainwashing our kids into thinking those animals are people!Ohhhhh for fux sake buddy. Thats a completely unrelated issue and you know it. That sounds like some fucking shit I'd expect to hear from the ACLU. Children are naturally accepting of different races. If they aren't accepting of them, its because their parents taught them to hate. That was a cheap ass distraction technique. Stick to the issue. Do you honestly think its a good idea to introduce little children to homosexual relations guised a cutesy cartoony fun book? Quote i am sofa king we todd did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msixty Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 my primary concern with this is that, the penguins arn't gay, the male often cares for the chick and two males makes no difference. to try and portray something that is not true as fact dusturbs me deeply, especally when it is being given to kids, they don't know anything and rely on us to teach them facts, not fiction. i'm not getting on the fucking 'impressonable kids' bandwagon, becouse it dosn't matter, if they're gonna be gay, they're gonna be gay, same with straight people, but if you want to try and FORCE one way or the other on me or others, well, go sit on a stick of TNT. kid's don't need this shit, they are too young to understand it (hence why i don't care for the impressionable plea) and this will only fuck up society more. am i anti-gay? no, i'm anti-FAG. difference? i consider a gay person to be someone attracted to the opposit sex. a FAG on the other hand, is gay, but hates you and thinks your less than them if you're not gay or don't accept them walking around your kids in tight leather and rainbow chains. and a fag is something you smoke...... Quote Your stupidity is My weapon WARNING! my mood and mental state are strongly influenced by music and T.V./movies..... i may seem the slightest bit insane.. just don't let me watch my favorite show and or listen to my music and it will all be alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhony5 Posted November 17, 2006 Author Share Posted November 17, 2006 Huh. Thats actually a very good point. What really struck me was the cover art for the book. Showing the two males nuzzling each other affectionately. Notice the two males aren't even looking at the baby Penguin. Their eyes are locked in some kind of homosexual stare, a precursor to hopping behind the rocks and getting a quick bufu in before feeding time. A child wouldn't notice this. But I did. And it wreaks of pushing an agenda. For a child to see this isn't going to warp their mind and turn them all gay. Its just not the best idea, from a developmental standpoint, to expose small children to something so unusual. I use the term "unusual" speaking from a child's point of view. Quote i am sofa king we todd did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msixty Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 The agenda of a story about 2 Penguins? I've noticed that they snuck in some japs and ******s into our school books too; the bastards are brainwashing our kids into thinking those animals are people! yes, i agree, not a gay agenda, but wrong none the less, and oh dear lord, don't tell me your retarded enough to think that's a decent defence. as for animals being people, PENGUINS CAN'T BE GAY YOU FUCKING RETARDS, animals ARE NOT simple versions of our way of thought process, they function compleatly different, they are incapable of preceving GAY and STRAIGHT, they dont fuck the same sex, why? becouse they only have sex to reproduce, and man+man DOES NOT = a kid, no matter what they try in bed.the two penguins were simply acting on bacic instinct of survival of the species, they made sure one of their number survived, then they found female penguins to further expand on that number. to twist it into 'they are gay! yay!' bullshit is beyond wrong, it dusturbs the scientist in me, AND my bacic moral standards. Quote Your stupidity is My weapon WARNING! my mood and mental state are strongly influenced by music and T.V./movies..... i may seem the slightest bit insane.. just don't let me watch my favorite show and or listen to my music and it will all be alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I read the penguins actually did have sex, though. Quote Blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhony5 Posted November 17, 2006 Author Share Posted November 17, 2006 I read the penguins actually did have sex, though. Yes, they did bufu or what not. When I was a teenager there was a gay dog in our neighborhood named pepper. It would run up to male dogs and literally buttfuck them right where they stood. I swear straight up , the looks on the poor rape victims he assaulted was classic. Utterly confused yet intrigued. Until penetration occurred. However this same dog would fuck females, males, whatever. I think it was more that the dog was horny than gay. Quote i am sofa king we todd did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msixty Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 now, adressing the 'agenda' of gay people.... i don't think this an agenda to make everyone gay, or to make kids love gay people, i do however think that it is an attempt to 'ratonalise' same sex relationships. what many don't notice/mention with SOME same sex relationships is, the minds of the particapents are actually slightly different from that of your 'average member' of that sex, some even have the mental structure of the other sex. so the whole 'help, i'm a lesbian trapped in a mans body' joke has substance lol but being serious, i do think that this is trying to make it seem more 'normal' to people that do not have that preferance, i beleave that if you want to be gay, good for you, but that is being different from the norm, so if it's that important to you, then be different, don't make me call you the same, if you need to convince everyone else that it's ok for you to do something before you will do it yourself, than you must beleave what your doing is wrong, and so you shouldn't do it. in short, if your gonna be different, be different, but don't expect me to help you or say 'you can do it, it's not a bad thing' when you're apprehensive, if you don't feel right, go get some pussy, if that feels right, stick with the pussy. now, have i confused you yet? Quote Your stupidity is My weapon WARNING! my mood and mental state are strongly influenced by music and T.V./movies..... i may seem the slightest bit insane.. just don't let me watch my favorite show and or listen to my music and it will all be alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msixty Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I read the penguins actually did have sex, though. did they fuck eachother becouse there were no females around? did you concider that they were just being dumb fucking animals? (no pun intended) animals DO NOT fuck eachother for pure pleasure, it dosn't happen, a dog will hump your leg, why? it is chemically compelled to do so, it's NOT the dog exploring inter-species relationships becouse it has another sexual prefrence from 'Rex' over in the jone's yard. you are all not getting the point, the animal is not gay, it is not intrested in the same sex, it is intrested in planting it's seed, usually, animals avoid the same sex and go for the other sex, but sometimes they just try to reproduce with everything, animals fuck other species, same sex, couches, legs, logs, rocks, whatever, but that does not mean they are thinking in a way that we do when they do it. they're 'horny' not 'gay' Quote Your stupidity is My weapon WARNING! my mood and mental state are strongly influenced by music and T.V./movies..... i may seem the slightest bit insane.. just don't let me watch my favorite show and or listen to my music and it will all be alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Hell, I don't know! LOL! I am not an expert on animal homosexuality. I just read the article J5 posted at the beginning of the thread. It said the two males ran off females and had sex with each other. Quote Blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msixty Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 and they tried to hatch a rock, what's your point? Quote Your stupidity is My weapon WARNING! my mood and mental state are strongly influenced by music and T.V./movies..... i may seem the slightest bit insane.. just don't let me watch my favorite show and or listen to my music and it will all be alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 and they tried to hatch a rock, what's your point? Duh...Der... to answer your question in your previous comment: Msixty says (typos fixed ): Did they fuck each other because there were no females around? Phanny-Bo-Banny says: It said the two males ran off females and had sex with each other. We're they gay? Don't know. Don't care. Don't care to know. Homosexuality is a private thing for man or penguin. Quote Blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msixty Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 well, they went ahead and got together with females anyway, so maybe they dont like the ugly ones? if that's the case, i'm sure they would run you off to they are with females, so they aren't totally gay, they problably were just being dumb birds, after all, they don't have a very big brain. (are you related?) yeah yeah, i'm using childish insults, but hey, i got my point out there, and all your doing is copying from the origanal article, so i think i'll just make fun of you till i find something worth commenting on maturely (and i doubt it will come from you) Quote Your stupidity is My weapon WARNING! my mood and mental state are strongly influenced by music and T.V./movies..... i may seem the slightest bit insane.. just don't let me watch my favorite show and or listen to my music and it will all be alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msixty Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Homosexuality is a private thing for man or penguin. then why is there a book? and why are people trying to put it in schools? Quote Your stupidity is My weapon WARNING! my mood and mental state are strongly influenced by music and T.V./movies..... i may seem the slightest bit insane.. just don't let me watch my favorite show and or listen to my music and it will all be alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 ...maybe they dont like the ugly ones? if that's the case, i'm sure they would run you off to HARDY-FUCKING-HAR! We've got a comedian in the house! they are with females, so they aren't totally gay, they problably were just being dumb birds, after all, they don't have a very big brain. (are you related?) You're a riot! Stop, stop! You're killing me! No, the penguins probably weren't really homosexual but when I asked them for a interview, they declined to comment. yeah yeah, i'm using childish insults, but hey, i got my point out there Your point was to prove you are an idiot, poor debater, and bad at grammar? Success! and all your doing is copying from the origanal article Copying, no. Using it as my resource? Well, DUH. It's the only source I was offered. so i think i'll just make fun of you till i find something worth commenting on maturely (and i doubt it will come from you) Oh, please do. You're easier to debunk than Koko. Quote Blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msixty Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 HARDY-FUCKING-HAR! We've got a comedian in the house! [/Quote] think i could make some cash off that? my SKS needs same new bells and such.... You're a riot! Stop, stop! You're killing me! [/Quote] if only i could lol No, the penguins probably weren't really homosexual but when I asked them for a interview, they declined to comment. [/Quote] hm, must be afraid of cretures from horror movies Your point was to prove you are an idiot, poor debater, and bad at grammar? Success![/Quote] no, my point was lost in the sludge you suck up in place of a brain Copying, no. Using it as my resource? Well, DUH. It's the only source I was offered. [/Quote] aaah, ok, i see, inability to do things for yourself, here, i'll offer you another source since you can't find things (like ratonality) for yourself. http://www.google.com do you need a step-by-step of typing it in as well? Oh, please do. You're easier to debunk than Koko. ok i'll just keep it up then Quote Your stupidity is My weapon WARNING! my mood and mental state are strongly influenced by music and T.V./movies..... i may seem the slightest bit insane.. just don't let me watch my favorite show and or listen to my music and it will all be alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 here, i'll offer you another source since you can't find things (like ratonality) for yourself. http://www.google.com "Google?" What is this "Google" you speak of? On that note, I need to get off for the night. Instead of derailing J5's thread, make a new thread if you want to debate the homosexual tendencies of the animal kingdom. This post wasn't intended to debate the penguins' sexuality- it was whether or not the mature nature was a suitable topic for impressionable children. Quote Blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctrl Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Well shit. Here I am trying to start a thread on the gay thing so that terms and conditions can be defined, and you are extrapolating it 4 generations into gay penguin adoption. A lot of presumption is made, that I am not sure is fact. I don't think you can debate such things presuming that it is either "OK" or you are a homophobe. There is debate in there, just waiting for a coherent argument first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msixty Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Well shit. Here I am trying to start a thread on the gay thing so that terms and conditions can be defined. you act as if it is a contract, or we are buying/selling something, not the best way to look at something like this, and some of us are not far to one side, i'm not pro-gay, and i'm not someone who is totally against it and presumption is/was made, but you nor i am ever going to stop that from happening, it's what allows for the argument to be disproved, if everything was fact we would NEVER solve a debate, and nobody's opinion would be affected in the slightest. Quote Your stupidity is My weapon WARNING! my mood and mental state are strongly influenced by music and T.V./movies..... i may seem the slightest bit insane.. just don't let me watch my favorite show and or listen to my music and it will all be alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Well shit. Here I am trying to start a thread on the gay thing so that terms and conditions can be defined, and you are extrapolating it 4 generations into gay penguin adoption. A lot of presumption is made, that I am not sure is fact. I don't think you can debate such things presuming that it is either "OK" or you are a homophobe. There is debate in there, just waiting for a coherent argument first. Woosh...... Right over my head. WTF? Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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