Pro-illegal freaks at Columbia U at it again.

Those same cocksuckers actually think its racist of people to say immigrants should assimilate by learning English. They wave the Mexican flag, not the American flag. We are being invaded. As they dip deeper into the American political system, they are extorting power through the vote.

In California they have so many accidents involving illegals crossing the Santa Ana freeway, that they posted a crossing sign that shows a man, woman and child holding hands and running. To warn drivers of the impending danger of pedestrian traffic. The local Mexican activist view this sign as racist. What the fuck?

Political Correctness at its most illogical "best". The "logic" by which these morons operate is proof that the ultra-liberalism this country is suffering from is doing far more harm than good.

First clever thing I've read of your's greengrocer. Are you feeling okay?

Political Correctness at its most illogical "best". The "logic" by which these morons operate is proof that the ultra-liberalism this country is suffering from is doing far more harm than good.

What ultra-liberalism? Between the extreme crackdown in censorship from Ashcroft's FCC, the reduction of civil rights from The Patriot Act in order for greater security, the constant war and threats to invade anywhere Dubyah deems an outlaw regime, and the Republicans' virtual monopoly of two of the three branches of government, I don't see how you could consider the current regime anything but ultra-conservative. The repressiveness is growing rather than shrinking, too.

Yeah, those students were fucktards and border control should be increased, but don't pretend this kind of thing reflects a trend when it's more of an abberation.

First clever thing I've read of your's greengrocer. Are you feeling okay?

Everything is fine. Did you take your Prozac today?

What ultra-liberalism? Between the extreme crackdown in censorship from Ashcroft's FCC, the reduction of civil rights from The Patriot Act in order for greater security, the constant war and threats to invade anywhere Dubyah deems an outlaw regime, and the Republicans' virtual monopoly of two of the three branches of government, I don't see how you could consider the current regime anything but ultra-conservative. The repressiveness is growing rather than shrinking, too.

 

Yeah, those students were fucktards and border control should be increased, but don't pretend this kind of thing reflects a trend when it's more of an abberation.

It is quite a trend, fella. We have gays wanting to get married. Illegal immigrants that think they have the same fucking rights as Americans. Blacks that blame whits folks for hurricanes. Minority groups are snatching the whole pie instead of just a piece.

Illegal Mexican immigrants (excuse me>>>INVADERS) are using their political leverage to destroy what is America. How is it that aliens invaders have political leverage? Because they have ultra-liberal pinkos on the inside. Bleeding hearts that feel for every sorry bastard with a sob story. What the fuck is wrong with Mexico? Why is that country so bad off that millions of their people feel the need to come here and leech?

Get ready Canada. Some day the spics are gonna fuck this nation up so bad and overtake the population to such an extent, that they will start looking around at what they have created (rather destroyed) and say to themselves "Wow, look at all the Mexicans, lets go to Canada, I hear there aren't any wetbacks there". What gets me is how they obviously hate their own nation so much that they risk their lives and the lives of their families to come here. Then they slap Mexican flags all over their vehicles and homes and refuse to learn English.

The truth is ugly. Mexico sucks. Mexicans suck. To refute this you fly in the face of the obvious. Legal Mexican immigrants that assimilate and become part of America, rather then take part of America, are good by me. The rest need to be killed. Executed for assailing the American way.

Jhony5 hit the vinegar stroke when he typed this shit.

The truth is ugly. Mexico sucks. Mexicans suck. To refute this you fly in the face of the obvious. Legal Mexican immigrants that assimilate and become part of America, rather then take part of America, are good by me. The rest need to be killed. Executed for assailing the American way

That puts the onus on you, big fella, to describe in minute detail, the "American way". If you could do that for me, I would be eternally grateful.

Or just gloss over the main pointers would be a starter, Jhony5.

We'll take it from there.

Jhony5 hit the vinegar stroke when he typed this shit.

 

 

That puts the onus on you, big fella, to describe in minute detail, the "American way". If you could do that for me, I would be eternally grateful.

You just wouldn't understand, bud.

Foreigners just hate it when Americans say "The American way".

I'll try in more detail later. My daughter just awoke.

You just wouldn't understand, bud.

That's an assumption buddy. You people might not care about the rest of the world you live in, but strangley enough, the rest of the world cares.

Foreigners just hate it when Americans say "The American way".

Another bullshit assumption. Where do you get off Mister? All I see is bluster and bluff.

I'll try in more detail later. My daughter just awoke.

Oh, more important details to attend. I understand entirely.

What ultra-liberalism? Between the extreme crackdown in censorship from Ashcroft's FCC, the reduction of civil rights from The Patriot Act in order for greater security, the constant war and threats to invade anywhere Dubyah deems an outlaw regime, and the Republicans' virtual monopoly of two of the three branches of government, I don't see how you could consider the current regime anything but ultra-conservative. The repressiveness is growing rather than shrinking, too.

 

Yeah, those students were fucktards and border control should be increased, but don't pretend this kind of thing reflects a trend when it's more of an abberation.

I guess FDR was a conservative. This administration has increased domestic spending at the fastest rate since LBJ, expanded Medicare and increased federal intevention in our public school system while implementing Wilsonian foreign policy. They are a bunch of fucking liberals.

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Another bullshit assumption. Where do you get off Mister?

The American way.

Its an intangible and difficult to describe comment. Allow me to try and make it clear.

Take a drive through ten US cities. Go into the various shops and talk to the various peoples.

Then go to Mexico. Drive through ten major Mexican cities. Go into the various shops. Talk to the people.

Return to your home and think about what you've just experienced. The American way. The Mexican way. Each nation has a culture. Each nation has a "way". Ask yourself honestly which "way" you prefer.

I think the Mexicans prefer the American way, fucking obviously right? They prefer it to their own nations dirt farming backassward impoverished crumb bum way. Or they wouldn't be crossing miles of perilous desert to escape it.

You people might not care about the rest of the world you live in, but strangely enough, the rest of the world cares.

This is a smug generalization of Americans. I do care about the rest of the world, to some effect, and I think most Americans do.

Americans just want the citizens of their nation to be exactly that, Americans. Not Mexicans. If Mexicans want to move to the United States, then god dammit they should be Americans. They can be proud of their Mexican culture, but if your gonna move here and suck $$$ from the welfare system, clog the county jails with alcoholics, and maintain a residence in a government subsidized housing complex. They best fucking assimilate.

The guy that lives next door to me in my middle class housing sub-division, hes a Mexican American. Hes a gets it. He works hard and has shit. He speaks English when he has a question at the local supermarket.

The gaggle of 5 foot tall Mexicans walking down the side of the road to the liquor store for their daily ration of cerveza, those are spics and I fucking spit on them, LITERALLY, when I see them. I'm the idiot redneck leaning out my truck window screaming at them "Go back to Africa ya fucking wetbacks". I might feel bad if the illiterate fucks understood English.

Foreigners just hate it when Americans say "The American way".

Ohh... this will do for pretext.

What ultra-liberalism? Between the extreme crackdown in censorship from Ashcroft's FCC, the reduction of civil rights from The Patriot Act in order for greater security, the constant war and threats to invade anywhere Dubyah deems an outlaw regime, and the Republicans' virtual monopoly of two of the three branches of government, I don't see how you could consider the current regime anything but ultra-conservative. The repressiveness is growing rather than shrinking, too.

 

Yeah, those students were fucktards and border control should be increased, but don't pretend this kind of thing reflects a trend when it's more of an abberation.

My friend, K-man, sometimes struggles with his thoughts. On this particular point, he is dead on with his assumption.

Why can't it be the political left that has exploited minorities to the brink of mortification? Trivialized our miniscule border patrol? Then abusing our overtly generous welfare institution?

Since we, as Americans, have to tiptoe around fucking shitheel Muslims because of political correctness; why is it so hard to believe that the foundations laid by neo-commie/ultra-liberal establisments, like the ACLU, has weakened the country's utmost important goal. Which is, national security, and this can only be achieved by thwarting this fucking leviathan with a harpoon. Strengthen our country's resolve by enforcing the laws of the land.

Then again, the neo-cons have figured it best to concentrate their efforts in Iraq and forego the squabbles of the petty poor citizens.

The gaggle of 5 foot tall Mexicans walking down the side of the road to the liquor store for their daily ration of cerveza, those are spics and I fucking spit on them, LITERALLY, when I see them. I'm the idiot redneck leaning out my truck window screaming at them "Go back to Africa ya fucking wetbacks". I might feel bad if the illiterate fucks understood English.

Wait.... this will do for pretext!

Africa translates very well into Spanish and they may be an ignorant rabble, but they know that they aren't from that region. However, I can see the confusion; border-****** is a popular slang for Mexicans here in the Shining South.

Though similar in appearance, you never want to confuse a Mexican for a Guatamalan or vice versa.

Though similar in appearance, you never want to confuse a Mexican for a Guatamalan or vice versa.

That's why I just call them all beaners.

That's why I just call them all beaners.

True.

Their diet consists of corn and bean byproducts. With this much ruffage, you'd think they'd all be lithe and slight of build.

It is quite a trend, fella. We have gays wanting to get married.

And unless you're a bigot, that's a problem ... Why??? I can see wanting to preserve the name of marriage, but they should have every right to form civil unions that give them all the same rights as if they were married. The only issue here is the name of "marriage." Civil unions should make this a non-issue.

If you're against gays being allowed civil unions, then you're just a bigotted tyrant trying to tell people how to live their lives.

Illegal immigrants that think they have the same fucking rights as Americans.

No, they just complain about certain exploitations. Anyway, yeah, our border policy needs to be stepped up, I agree. That's one of the very FEW legitimate arguments that the oppressive right-wing nutjobs running the government have right now.

Blacks that blame whits folks for hurricanes.

Um, no. They blame the white folks in the government for the shitty response to the hurricane ... Not for causing it. They're blaming the people for NOT DOING THEIR JOB. It would be the same deal if there was a similarly crappy response in NY, Texas, Illinois, Connecticut, Florida, wherever.

Minority groups are snatching the whole pie instead of just a piece.

This sounds kinda like a bigotted comment.

(I'm white, before you ask)

Illegal Mexican immigrants (excuse me>>>INVADERS) are using their political leverage to destroy what is America. How is it that aliens invaders have political leverage? Because they have ultra-liberal pinkos on the inside. Bleeding hearts that feel for every sorry bastard with a sob story. What the fuck is wrong with Mexico? Why is that country so bad off that millions of their people feel the need to come here and leech?

What political power do they have? Hell, what political power do "bleeding hearts" have? It's moral tyrants like John Ashcroft who hold the power right now. Again, the border policy needs to be stepped up, but you're VASTLY exaggerating it. It's the same problem it's been for a long time, and they don't have any real political power.

Get ready Canada. Some day the spics are gonna fuck this nation up so bad and overtake the population to such an extent, that they will start looking around at what they have created (rather destroyed) and say to themselves "Wow, look at all the Mexicans, lets go to Canada, I hear there aren't any wetbacks there". What gets me is how they obviously hate their own nation so much that they risk their lives and the lives of their families to come here. Then they slap Mexican flags all over their vehicles and homes and refuse to learn English.

... Aaaaand this is all a bunch of bigotted stereotyping of Mexican people.

Lookit me, I can stereotype my own country too!

[All those stupid, fat fucking redneck American warmongers, going around invading every damn place like they own the world, giving shitty excuses for why people hate them like "It's because we love freedom", pretending they're the freest place on Earth when most of Europe has more social freedoms, complaining about Mexico, but running there every year for Spring Break, with a bunch of dumbass kids flunking out of high school and getting obese from McDonald's while watching pro wrestling]

The truth is ugly. Mexico sucks. Mexicans suck. To refute this you fly in the face of the obvious. Legal Mexican immigrants that assimilate and become part of America, rather then take part of America, are good by me. The rest need to be killed. Executed for assailing the American way.

And this is just nationalistic bullshit. Dude, you're seriously beginning to sound like Ann "Nazi" Coulter.

I guess FDR was a conservative. This administration has increased domestic spending at the fastest rate since LBJ, expanded Medicare and increased federal intevention in our public school system while implementing Wilsonian foreign policy. They are a bunch of fucking liberals.

Can you even define what "liberal" is? Looks like you're using the Bill 'O Reilly definition, where "liberal" simply means someone who wants to raise taxes or "cause trouble." Either that or you've assigned the practices of a few Democrats to all "liberals."

Read this:

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_jackson__060609_liberal_and_proud_3a_l.htm

When it comes to things like spending, affirmative action, and border policy, anyway, I can see the "conservative" view. When it comes to personal freedoms, if you're NOT a liberal in the traditional sense, you're most likely a bigot. Libertarians are a lot closer to liberals in the true sense than either Democrats or Republicans, though.

Can you even define what "liberal" is? Looks like you're using the Bill 'O Reilly definition, where "liberal" simply means someone who wants to raise taxes or "cause trouble." Either that or you've assigned the practices of a few Democrats to all "liberals."

 

 

Read this:

 

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_jackson__060609_liberal_and_proud_3a_l.htm

 

 

When it comes to things like spending, affirmative action, and border policy, anyway, I can see the "conservative" view. When it comes to personal freedoms, if you're NOT a liberal in the traditional sense, you're most likely a bigot. Libertarians are a lot closer to liberals in the true sense than either Democrats or Republicans, though.

Go back to your anti-Christian bigotry. The Patriot Act was passed by a vote of 98-1. By your definitions Abe and Franklin were arch conservatives due to their infringements on civil liberties. I am a classical liberal, not a modern "liberal" a term stolen by the socialists. Go back to your pinko-commie world where everyone should be equal except them damn Christians.

Go back to your anti-Christian bigotry.

Wha ...? I'll have you know that I do beleive in God, in the sense of a self-creating paradox like Aristotle's First Cause or the Big Bang. I see religions as different ways to interpret God. I was raised as a Christian, and I consider that the interpretation which best suits me. I'm a theist with Christian leanings ... Or a non-fundamentalist Christian. Whichever way you want to phrase it, I actually hold Christianity above other religions on a personal level due to my upbringing.

But no, this is just you trying to turn the "bigot" statement back on me via the Tu Quoque fallacy.

"OMG, you support people not being forced by law to live in accordance to traditional Christian standards?!?!? You must be a bigot against Christians!"

 

The Patriot Act was passed by a vote of 98-1.

I won't even get into the various arguments for how shady it was that it passed so quickly, much less the fact that some have stated they didn't even read it. The mere fact that the government is totally controlled by right-wing zealots alone makes any point you may've been trying to make here meaningless.

By your definitions Abe and Franklin were arch conservatives due to their infringements on civil liberties.

They were. Most historical political figures are tyrannical assholes. It's all a matter of how tyrannical they were. Abe and Franklin happened to be progressive for their times, thus we remember them well. Same with Plato.

I am a classical liberal, not a modern "liberal" a term stolen by the socialists.

I'm not a socialist or a Democrat or a communist or even a libertarian. I'm closer to an anarchist. I acknowledge that anarchy can't work right now because people aren't personally responsible enough for it to work. Some of the posts in this thread alone prove that. I want the social structure to be as close to anarchy as is possible while maintaining order.

Go back to your pinko-commie world where everyone should be equal except them damn Christians.

No, in my world, everyone should be allowed to do WHATEVER they want, so long as they're hurting no one but themselves. I'm against oppression in general, regardless of the excuse. And don't bring up this "pinko" bullshit.

Do you even know what true communism is? Read The Communist Manifesto. Marx's ideas were pretty damn good for his time and the fact that capitalism then was MUCH more corrupt than it is now. His only problem is that he never came up with a true political structure as such. The original Communism was more of a philosophy than a specific political structure. This allowed for Vladimir Lenin to later come up with the idea that the classless society must be obtained by a small, elite group. The 20th century Leninist Communism that we saw in Russia, China, Cuba, Vietnam, etc. is NOTHING like the original idea and the actual government structure was much closer to traditional right-wing totalitarianism than Marx's liberal social philosophy.

As George Orwell said:

One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes a revolution in order to establish a dictatorship.

I think our boy, TooStupidToPost, has revealed he is a communist. Communism, as envisioned by Marx, is when the state withers away. Of course everyone is then supposed to work together in brotherly love. There is little that is rational in Marx's writings. When private property rights are abolished civil liberties soon follow. The pinko-commie attack on Christianity goes back to Marx. States cannot have absolute power where religion is allowed to exist. The so-called "opiate of the masses" helped lead the downfall of the tyranny in Poland and the eventual downfall of the USSR. The all-powerful state don't want another force tugging at the proletariat. Oddly, so-called Communists believe the state must get bigger and bigger until some majical moment appears and the state implodes and somehow produces economic cooperation among all.

You know ya got a left-wing nutcase folks whenever you see the words bigot, exploitation, Ashcroft and a reference to some FOX News or talk radio persona frequently utilized.

Read The Communist Manifesto. Marx's ideas were pretty damn good for his time....

 

 

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That says it all folks. I suggesr reading Adam Smith's "Wealth of Nations" instead.

I think our boy, TooStupidToPost, has revealed he is a communist.

Sure thing, Mr. McCarthy.

Communism, as envisioned by Marx, is when the state withers away. Of course everyone is then supposed to work together in brotherly love. There is little that is rational in Marx's writings. When private property rights are abolished civil liberties soon follow.

It's called personal responsibility. He argued for a classless society because of the oppression of civil liberties. What he envisioned was a bunch of people, all equal, working together for a greater good. No exploitation whatsoever. It was Lenin who twisted it into a statist totalitarian regime. The original idea was similar to an anarchist philosphy.

Anarchy is THE IDEAL. If everyone were responsible enough to handle anarchy, we'd be able to distribute our resources in such a way as to end poverty, hunger, virtually all forms of suffering and repression ... It would be a utopia. The problem is that people aren't responsible, so we have to be pragmatists.

Marx's problem was NOT that he was oppressive -- he was clearly against all oppression. His problem was that he was an idealist, and left his philosophies open to interpretation to the point that Lenin was able to twist them into an abominable mockery of their original message.

The pinko-commie attack on Christianity goes back to Marx.

Please. There are many philosophers and even founding fathers who attack Christianity and organized religion in general. Lumping them together under the banner of "communism" is a pahetic McCarthyist tactic.

Nietsche was a far greater Christian detractor than Marx.

 

States cannot have absolute power where religion is allowed to exist. The so-called "opiate of the masses" helped lead the downfall of the tyranny in Poland and the eventual downfall of the USSR. The all-powerful state don't want another force tugging at the proletariat. Oddly, so-called Communists believe the state must get bigger and bigger until some majical moment appears and the state implodes and somehow produces economic cooperation among all.

It's the theory of relative deprivation. The proles eventually realize that they are being exploited and rebel, leading to a classless society. Looking through the lense of Marx's time, that was a logical conclusion. Some of the flaws in his beleifs, of course, were the fact that we have about 6 classes as opposed to the 3 he envisioned, and capitalism improved greatly. That and, as I said, he left his ideas open to interpretation to such a degree that Lenin was able to twist them for his own ends.

You know ya got a left-wing nutcase folks whenever you see the words bigot, exploitation, Ashcroft and a reference to some FOX News or talk radio persona frequently utilized.

When it's in response to things like:

Go back to your anti-Christian bigotry.

Go back to your pinko-commie world where everyone should be equal except them damn Christians.

We have gays wanting to get married.

Illegal Mexican immigrants (excuse me>>>INVADERS) are using their political leverage to destroy what is America. How is it that aliens invaders have political leverage? Because they have ultra-liberal pinkos on the inside. Bleeding hearts that feel for every sorry bastard with a sob story. What the fuck is wrong with Mexico? Why is that country so bad off that millions of their people feel the need to come here and leech?

The truth is ugly. Mexico sucks. Mexicans suck. To refute this you fly in the face of the obvious. Legal Mexican immigrants that assimilate and become part of America, rather then take part of America, are good by me. The rest need to be killed. Executed for assailing the American way.

... The words "bigot" and "exploitation" are inevitible. OTOH, I don't see what part of MY posts could lead anyone but a moral tyrant to use the words "pinko-commie" and "bigotry towards Christians."

Hell, I never even MENTIONED religion until you brought it up. Apparently, not being a hatemonger ranting about gays and Mexicans equates in your warped, twisted world view to not being a Christian. Why don't you read that link I sent you? It's quite accurate in the fact that Christ was much like a social liberal today, talking to the downtrodden whom others didn't beleive were worthy of attention, and standing up to the corrupt Roman government.

It's amazing how much many self-proclaimed "Christians" these days equate Christianity to hate and repression of minority groups, when Christ himself was all about the exact opposite.