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did you unplug the computer when it was formatting?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

bb20 wrote:

 

 

 

"error loading operating system"

 

08-Jan-09

 

 

 

Trying to refurbish an old pc:- install Win xp and I get the following

 

message when I hit the enter key to 'boot from CD". During the POST, the bios

 

were able to detect the PRI Master and the SEC Slave and it was set to boot

 

from cd ron/hdd/floppy. I get the same message even when I change into

 

another cd rom drive or the data cable. Thinking that CPU at 550mHz,(the RAM

 

is 384 MB) may not be enough to install Win xp, I tried to install Win 2000

 

but there is no change in the situation.

 

Is there any reason why I cant install the OS? Thanks

 

 

 

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On Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:20 AM

 

bb20 wrote:

 

 

 

"error loading operating system"

 

Trying to refurbish an old pc:- install Win xp and I get the following

 

message when I hit the enter key to 'boot from CD". During the POST, the bios

 

were able to detect the PRI Master and the SEC Slave and it was set to boot

 

from cd ron/hdd/floppy. I get the same message even when I change into

 

another cd rom drive or the data cable. Thinking that CPU at 550mHz,(the RAM

 

is 384 MB) may not be enough to install Win xp, I tried to install Win 2000

 

but there is no change in the situation.

 

Is there any reason why I cant install the OS? Thanks

 

 

 

On Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:14 AM

 

Anna wrote:

 

 

 

Re: "error loading operating system"

 

"bb202" <bb202@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

 

news:41FECBA2-CB63-485E-BDF4-0B9F88934565@microsoft.com...

 

 

 

 

 

bb202:

 

There may be other problems affecting your system but first...

 

 

 

First of all, we're assuming that whatever HDDs have been installed in the

 

system have been properly configured (jumpered) & connected. Ditto for the

 

optical drive(s). So do be sure to re:check these. The fact that the BIOS

 

detects both HDDs during bootup is a good initial sign, but not an absolute

 

indication that the drives have been properly connected/configured.

 

 

 

Uninstall your secondary HDD from the system before fresh-installing the OS

 

onto the primary HDD. Again, ensure that HDD is properly

 

connected/configured. No other storage devices should be connected in the

 

system when fresh-installing the OS.

 

 

 

Assuming the XP install is successful, then connect your secondary HDD.

 

Should the system fail to boot with both HDDs connected or you run into any

 

other problems, check out both HDDs with the HDD diagnostic freely available

 

from the disk's manufacturer.

 

Anna

 

 

 

On Thursday, January 08, 2009 4:53 PM

 

bb20 wrote:

 

 

 

There is only 1 hdd which is corrected jumped and connected to IDE1 (Pri

 

There is only 1 hdd which is corrected jumped and connected to IDE1 (Pri

 

Master) while the optical drive is also correctly jumped as Sec slave and

 

connected tro IDE2.

 

Siize of hdd is 20 gb. All connections check and seems ok

 

"smlunatick" wrote:

 

 

 

On Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:43 PM

 

bb20 wrote:

 

 

 

Re: "error loading operating system"

 

It appears to be a bios problem in which I downloaded from

 

http://www.findmysoft.com/drivers/download-Aopen-AX6B-1-20-bios-driver.html

 

 

 

and save into A. When I set the pc to boot from A:, it just wont boot? Any

 

idea what are the steps to update bios? Thanks

 

 

 

"bb202" wrote:

 

 

 

On Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:44 PM

 

sgopu wrote:

 

 

 

Have you installed a bootable sys on the floppy?

 

Have you installed a bootable sys on the floppy?

 

Usually you need to format and install some kind of operating system on the

 

floppy

 

before it will boot to it, a bios update is not an operating system. try

 

downloading NTDOS from download.com and follow the instructions to create a

 

bootable floppy.

 

 

 

"bb202" wrote:

 

 

 

On Friday, January 09, 2009 9:59 AM

 

bb20 wrote:

 

 

 

When I try to flash, it say my current version is AX6BCPro dd 10-22-1999 and

 

When I try to flash, it say my current version is AX6BCPro dd 10-22-1999 and

 

thus I have the wrong bios update. However on the mobo, its stated AX6BC Pro

 

which I just cannot locate the bios.

 

 

 

fyi, I downloaded the bios from here

 

http://members.driverguide.com/index.php?action=dosearch&qa5=1&qa6=90&qa7=Windows+XP&dp=3&sm=b&fzz=d

 

 

 

specifically AX6BC Pro II

 

 

 

Any idea where can I get this bios update? Thanks

 

 

 

"sgopus" wrote:

 

 

 

On Friday, January 09, 2009 12:47 PM

 

Paul wrote:

 

 

 

Re: "error loading operating system"

 

bb202 wrote:

 

 

 

Why not go to the manufacturer's site ? Click your

 

product, and then use the download link. You have

 

to select the model again from the pulldown menu.

 

 

 

http://global.aopen.com/search_prod.aspx?modl=ax6bc

 

 

 

Example of a BIOS download.

 

http://global.aopen.com/userdownload_List.aspx?RecNo=4402&Model=192

 

 

 

R1.19 1/6/2003 202.0 KB

 

# checksum 6277H

 

# Supports DieHard BIOS Lite.

 

 

 

The download is a zip, consisting of a .bin file (256KB)

 

and a flasher utility. I presume the flasher runs from

 

a MSDOS boot floppy.

 

 

 

With some manufacturers, they change the BIOS ID, and

 

sometimes, when you attempt to change from a really

 

old release, to a new one, the flasher may deny that

 

the identity of the motherboard is correct. This

 

happens occasionally on Asus motherboards, when they

 

change BIOS release tools in mid-stream.

 

 

 

Flashing a motherboard BIOS is not without its risks.

 

If you "brick" the board, such that it won't boot,

 

you'd want the BIOS chip to be socketed, so it can be

 

removed. Some boards solder the BIOS chip right to

 

the board. If the motherboard is socketed, you can go

 

to a site like badflash.com and order another pre-programmed

 

chip. As long as you can figure out what BIOS version

 

to get programmed in the chip, it offers another way

 

to repair a bricked system.

 

 

 

Paul

 

 

 

On Saturday, January 10, 2009 1:03 AM

 

bb20 wrote:

 

 

 

Many thanks for your info.

 

Many thanks for your info. I click the 1st link and download from here

 

http://global.aopen.com/userdownload_List.aspx?RecNo=4402&Model=192

 

 

 

the model AX6BC Pro file 6bcp107.exe Version R1.07 into the floppy and reboot.

 

Upon reboot from floppy and type 6bcp107.

 

 

 

The info from the 'old' bios is the same as well as the version except it

 

says New checksum 9559h. In any case it say 'yes' to reflesh and efter that

 

re boot/reload defaut.. Its boot sequence is set to cd rom and it still give

 

me the same error message as when I first try to install the OS, "press any

 

key to boot from cd....error loading operating system

 

 

 

I then download R1.16 and repeat the whole process and it give me the same

 

error message "press any key to boot from cd....error loading operating

 

system"

 

 

 

So what else could cause the error then. Look forward for your guidance,

 

thanks

 

 

 

 

 

"smlunatick" wrote:

 

 

 

On Saturday, January 10, 2009 1:45 AM

 

Paul wrote:

 

 

 

Re: "error loading operating system"

 

bb202 wrote:

 

 

 

I suspect we have a terminology problem.

 

 

 

You have two IDE connectors on the motherboard. At least

 

on my motherboard, one is referred to as primary and one

 

as secondary. They would correspond to IDE1 and IDE2

 

respectively.

 

 

 

I generally try to use 80 wire cables (because the signal

 

quality is better with them, and that is why the cables

 

can be used for speeds up to Ultra133). The 40 wire cables

 

can also be used, but the driver is supposed to sense

 

you're using one, and prevent higher speeds from being

 

used. A 40 wire cable would still work, but I try not

 

to use them any more if I have spare 80's sitting around.

 

 

 

You try to fill the connector on the end of the cable first,

 

if you have only one drive for the cable. Since that first

 

drive is the only drive, it would be jumpered as Master.

 

You should never fill just the middle connector by

 

itself (as that leaves a reflecting stub after the drive).

 

 

 

So I can see a couple ways I would cable your system.

 

I'd use this method, if it was inconvenient to use

 

one cable to connect the two drives. I would use a cable

 

per drive. Since the drives are the only thing on the

 

cable, they're Master.

 

 

 

(Primary) IDE1 X--------------X----------X

 

|

 

Master

 

 

 

(Secondary) IDE2 X--------------X----------X

 

|

 

Master

 

 

 

The second method is if the drives are in the same

 

rack, within a few inches of each other. Now one

 

cable can fit both without stress.

 

 

 

(Primary) IDE1 X--------------X----------X

 

| |

 

Slave Master

 

 

 

Western Digital further complicates matters with

 

their drives, in that in the first diagram above,

 

the Master would be jumpered "Master only", meaning

 

it is the only drive on the cable and is the master.

 

In the second diagram, if a Western Digital drive

 

was on the end of the cable as shown, it would be

 

jumpered as "Master", as in "there is a second drive

 

on the cable".

 

 

 

Try either of the above diagrams, and see if your

 

symptoms change.

 

 

 

Cable_Select is an alternative jumpering method,

 

but it relies on a feature in the cable and typically

 

is supported by the 80 wire cable. Cable_Select

 

is preferred by large manufacturers, as all the

 

equipment can be jumpered Cable_Select and just

 

plugged in without worrying.

 

 

 

Occasionally one flavor of jumpering won't work for

 

some reason, in which case you may have to experiment.

 

If Cable_Select refuses to work for a mix of two

 

drive products on the same cable, then the Master/Slave

 

method is the thing you'd try next (keeping that

 

detail about Western Digital in mind while you work).

 

 

 

When parking extra jumpers (i.e. storing them in

 

the jumper area), you have to be careful, because

 

there are an unbelievable number of active combinations

 

possible on some brands of drives. It is better to

 

find a small zip-lock baggy and store extra jumpers

 

in there.

 

 

 

Hope that helps,

 

Paul

 

 

 

On Saturday, January 10, 2009 4:35 AM

 

smlunatick wrote:

 

 

 

Re: "error loading operating system"

 

On Jan 8, 3:20=A0pm, bb202 <bb...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

 

bios

 

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he RAM

 

2000

 

 

 

What is set as PRI master and SEC Slave?

 

 

 

I also had this. My solution was to:

 

 

 

1) Main hard drive (to be C:) set as PRI master

 

 

 

2) CD drive (for the install) set as SEC master.

 

 

 

On Saturday, January 10, 2009 4:35 AM

 

smlunatick wrote:

 

 

 

Re: "error loading operating system"

 

On Jan 8, 9:53=A0pm, bb202 <bb...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

 

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the bios

 

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=A0Win 2000

 

 

 

I have personally seen CD drives not "booting" when set up as SEC

 

slave. Some PCs seem to only be able to boot a CD when the CD is set

 

up as Master on any IDE port.

 

 

 

IDE settings follow the requirements that a Master should be connected

 

on the IDE port before a Slave is connected. Usually when an IDE

 

drive that is set for Slave, the IDE controls are usually "turned" off

 

in favour to let the Master drive controls.

 

 

 

On Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:26 AM

 

bb20 wrote:

 

 

 

Thanks for the info. Think found the solution for the 'error loading ...

 

Thanks for the info. Think found the solution for the 'error loading ..."

 

When it ask to 'hit any key ......." and if I do so for the second time, it

 

was able to read the cd and window does the setup. Although I am still unable

 

to use the pc as it has another set of problem as during the installation or

 

window setup, an error message "file setupdd.sys could not be loaded. The

 

error code is 4. Setup cannot continue.Press any key to exit'. Guess back to

 

the drawing board to see which hardware is the culprit. Wish me luck ///////

 

thanks

 

 

 

"Paul" wrote:

 

 

 

On Saturday, January 10, 2009 11:18 AM

 

Paul wrote:

 

 

 

Re: "error loading operating system"

 

bb202 wrote:

 

 

 

I have a copy of the i386 folder from the CD, and

 

SETUPDD.SY_ is in that folder. So the install is

 

having trouble copying that file over. I believe

 

the underscore means the file is compressed and

 

the installer will take care of the details.

 

 

 

Sounds like maybe you're having trouble either

 

reading the CDROM, or any amount of heavy data

 

traffic on the cable results in corruption or

 

something.

 

 

 

So how are the drives cabled and jumpered ? Are the

 

HDD and optical on a single cable ?

 

 

 

When I installed WinXP, I did mine using a hard drive

 

install. (I did this purely for fun, because I heard

 

you could do it that way.) What that means, is I created

 

two partitions on my 80GB IDE drive. The first partition

 

is 78GB and the second is 2GB. In the 2GB partition, I

 

copy the contents of the i386 folder of the WinXP CD.

 

The trick then, is to use that folder to complete the

 

install. The procedure requires a second computer,

 

to prep the drive and copy the files from the

 

Windows CD.

 

 

 

When creating the partitions, it is important to

 

create the 78GB partition first (so it is the first

 

entry in the partition table), and the 2GB partition

 

second. (I determined that empirically, getting it

 

wrong the first time.) The partitions should be FAT32,

 

for the purposes of being able to access the partitions from

 

DOS. The first partition could be converted to NTFS

 

later if needed (with "convert"), but I didn't bother.

 

 

 

The basic concept is outlined here.

 

 

 

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307848

 

 

 

It took me a good part of the day, to cook up a

 

MSDOS floppy with the necessary files to do what

 

was required. Including SMARTDRV supports caching

 

when accessing the disk, and that makes some

 

improvement to the process. But considering the time

 

I wasted, I'd be happy to just let it chug along

 

at 1MB/sec if it wanted, because the caching wasn't

 

that smart after all.

 

 

 

This is my autoexec.bat on the MSDOS floppy . The

 

numbers are "cranked", because I was experimenting

 

with getting the best disk to disk transfer rate possible.

 

I think I added the MSCDEX stuff later, when I added

 

support for CDROMs to the floppy (to make it a better

 

all-round recovery floppy). The "pause" is so I could

 

read the screen.

 

 

 

mscdex /D:MSCD001 /L:R

 

pause

 

a:\smartdrv.exe /V 32768 32768 /E:32768

 

 

 

This is my current config.sys. I've since added

 

CDROM support to my MSDOS boot floppy, and I downloaded

 

XCDROM because oakcdrom wasn't working. The "?" in

 

the first three lines, causes the floppy boot process

 

to pause. Hitting return lets it continue. I was getting

 

stuck at the EMM386 step, and had to manually experiment

 

with the "X" parameter, until I no longer had a resource

 

conflict. On many attempts, the floppy boot process would

 

get stuck with the floppy light on, which means the

 

hardware was being trampled by something being loaded.

 

The last four lines are pretty standard stuff which

 

I didn't bother changing.

 

 

 

DEVICE?=HIMEM.SYS /TESTMEM:OFF

 

DEVICE?=EMM386.EXE NOEMS X=A000-CFFF

 

DEVICE?=XCDROM.SYS /D:MSCD001

 

FILES=20

 

BUFFERS=20

 

DOS=HIGH,UMB

 

STACKS=9,256

 

 

 

My boot floppy started from one made from Win98, and I

 

added stuff to taste, like a pot of stew :-)

 

 

 

The install ends up being not much faster than doing

 

it straight from the CDROM. But, if your CDROM

 

is having problems, the DOS floppy plus hard

 

disk partition trick, is an alternative installation

 

method. Naturally, you still need to fix your CDROM,

 

but if you're living in the woods, and a new CDROM is

 

a week away, it gives you something to do in the

 

interim.

 

 

 

Depending on whether you have a broadband Internet

 

connection, you could also consider experimenting

 

with Knoppix (Linux LiveCD) from knopper.net. That is

 

a 700MB download for the CD version, and all you

 

need in this case, is the latest CD version, as

 

the DVD version is too big to be practical.

 

 

 

As a test mechanism, Knoppix gives you

 

 

 

1) No need for a hard drive. It runs straight from the CD.

 

2) At boot time from the CD, Knoppix gives you boot

 

time options. Memtest is one of them, allowing

 

you to test system memory. In addition, Knoppix

 

has an integrity check boot option, which causes

 

the checksums of the files on the CDROM to be

 

verified. If any of those verifications fail,

 

you know you have a CDROM drive problem (or

 

bad media). So that makes a quick way to verify

 

the CDROM drive is good and the cables are OK.

 

 

 

It isn't much of an OS, but as a means of doing

 

hardware testing, it is a great alternative. But

 

only feasible if you have some way to download

 

a 700MB ISO9660 file and burn a bootable CD

 

with Nero or something.

 

 

 

HTH,

 

Paul

 

 

 

On Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:40 PM

 

bb20 wrote:

 

 

 

Thanks very much for the guidance.

 

Thanks very much for the guidance. Thats a lot for me to digest and I will

 

give it a go after I get my other hdd back from the manufacturer. (hdd test

 

shows that the hdd has failed). Thanks for walking me through this.

 

 

 

"Paul" wrote:

 

 

 

On Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:42 AM

 

bb20 wrote:

 

 

 

At long last, I got my other replacement hdd (80gb ide) back.

 

At long last, I got my other replacement hdd (80gb ide) back. Before

 

installing the OS, I cleaned the mobo and found out that the connector on the

 

mobo end is switch around (ie cable pin80 is on pin1 on mobo). I dont know if

 

that is the cause of the error but in any case with the new hdd, I was able

 

to install the Win xp without any problem.

 

However in the Device Manager-under IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers,there is an

 

item; STANDARD IDE/ESDI Hard Disk Controller which have an exclamation mark.

 

The pc seems to work ok.

 

Many thanks for all the help, regards

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> did you unplug the computer when it was formatting?

 

 

 

Not real quick on the uptake, eh?

 

 

 

Notice - the conversation you chose to respond to began and ended in January

 

2009. Weclome to April 2010. ;-)

 

 

 

Here it is - archived with dates and everything - including your chime-in 15

 

month after it ended. grin

 

 

 

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware/browse_frm/thread/1d5dea4acfaff749/

 

 

 

Better late than never? haha

 

 

 

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