Re: Barack Hussein Obama Was AWOL For Over 100 of His Senate Votes!!

[Osiris88]

On Jan 13, 10:10 am, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 13, 12:01 pm, Osiris88 <inde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 13, 9:48 am, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 13, 11:10 am, Osiris88 <inde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 13, 7:37 am, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jan 13, 9:24 am, Osiris88 <inde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Jan 13, 6:58 am, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > = OK, but the vote key at the bottom of the page indicated several
> > > > > > > possible
>
> > > > > > > > reasons:
>
> > > > > > > and a normal mix of those would be understandable, over 100 missed
> > > > > > > votes is inexcusable however, simply appalling especially for a
> > > > > > > freshman Jr. Senator such as Obama who has suddenly just decided to
> > > > > > > run for President on top of it.
>
> > > > > > > > === quote ===
> > > > > > > > Not Voting, Excused, Absent, or Present
> > > > > > > > === end of quote ===
>
> > > > > > > > > = There are subjects where NV may certainly be a sign that either
> > > > > > > > > "No" or "Yes" wouldn't fit...
> > > > > > > > > NV = NO VOTE or in other words, NO OPINION or NO GUTS to commit to an
> > > > > > > > > answer, over 100 times?? hardly what America needs, we already have a
> > > > > > > > > President who ignores the issues and runs away from being responsible.
>
> > > > > > > = May I suggest you look under Immigration and see how many
> > > > > > > responsible Yes
>
> > > > > > > > and Nos were also given.
>
> > > > > > > I hope you aren't suggesting that justifies missing all the rest of
> > > > > > > his votes?
>
> > > > > > > = Though I will agree that it does seem like he will take positions
> > > > > > > after> having had 3 years in the junior seat. For me, it's a sign of wilingness
>
> > > > > > > = to listen, but he should - definitely - be asked, if possible.
>
> > > > > > > I am glad you make this point, using your own reasoning then he has NO
> > > > > > > business running for President. It would stand to reason that if he
> > > > > > > has not even figured out his position as a US Jr. Senator yet, I
> > > > > > > cringe at the thought of what he will do as the Commander in Chief, do
> > > > > > > you see my point yet?
>
> > > > > = Your point is that Obama is a terrorist because he familiar with> Muslims. You are racist filth and you hurt Hillary's chances of
> > > > > > winning the nomination. Please understand that you and I are going to
> > > > > > cancel each other out; your vote means nothing now. Have a swell
>
> > > > > = day!
>
> > > > > I know you would like to believe all your utter non sense, and you
> > > > > quite obviously want to ignore the facts here too.
>
> > > > > The facts are --
>
> > > > > Barack Hussein Obama was born a Muslim.
>
> > > > > Barack Hussein Obama has been a US Senator for only 2 short years and
> > > > > has failed to commit on many key issues skipping out on more than 100
> > > > > of his Senate votes, hardly someone who should be running for
> > > > > President or that anyone should be voting for. He is a disaster
> > > > > waiting to happen in my opinion, just like Bush was.
>
> > > > > Barack Hussein Obama hides the fact he was born Muslim
>
> > > > > ..maybe the real racist is Obama then, do you think black people
> > > > > cannot be racist? only whites are racist? and why is Obama so ashamed
> > > > > of being Muslim? and why does he not want to talk about it for some
> > > > > odd reason? and his supporters as you have proven to all right here,
> > > > > get very defensive over this simply fact, hostile even, how odd. What
> > > > > are you hiding I wonder?
>
> > > = He's NOT a Muslim and nobody is "born" a Muslim or into any other
>
> > > > religion. I wasn't "born" a Christian and even being baptized doesn't
> > > > remove free will. You seem to have a problem with Muslims because of
> > > > the 9/11 attackers. Four of those hijackers were from Egypt which is
> > > > an ally of the United States.
>
> > > I have a problem with people that attack my country, in this case they
> > > just happened to be Muslim, like Obama. That does not mean I think
> > > Obama is a terrorist, but it does not hurt to examine it, unless you
> > > are of course, YOU you can't handle the discussion without foaming at
> > > the mouth over it..
>
> = By all means, discuss it and hurt Hillary. If you have evidence
> that
>
> > Obama is related to terrorism then put it forth. Otherwise be quiet
> > and move on to supporting your candidate!
>
> Thank You for once again displaying for all the world how, you, an
> Obama supporter, immediately resorted to attacks, labels and
> accusations rather than the needed discussion over the values and back
> ground of your candidate. Obviously you do have much to hide. My
> conclusion is that Obama supporters. like you, you are not to be
> trusted and neither is Obama, thank you for letting us all know, I see
> your point very clearly now..

Haha. You started this thread by suggesting he was a terrorist. I'm
about to switch parties and become a Republican so it doesn't stand to
reason I would support Obama (who is more progressive) over Hillary, I
am merely showing the shortcomings of your attacks against him.
Here's a clue for you: Hillary has no position on the war other
than "We will end the war responsibly". In other words, she won't say
she is against it and to bring the troops home, nor will she say she
believes in freedom for Iraqis and thus we'll stay. She says
neither. She is morally ambiguous. Tell me why I should support her.
For those of you who consistently give my posts one star, I assure
you that ranking my posts will not change the outcome of the
election.

 

[Hillary '08]

On Jan 13, 12:36 pm, Osiris88 <inde...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 13, 10:10 am, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 13, 12:01 pm, Osiris88 <inde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 13, 9:48 am, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 13, 11:10 am, Osiris88 <inde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jan 13, 7:37 am, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Jan 13, 9:24 am, Osiris88 <inde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Jan 13, 6:58 am, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > = OK, but the vote key at the bottom of the page indicated several
> > > > > > > > possible
>
> > > > > > > > > reasons:
>
> > > > > > > > and a normal mix of those would be understandable, over 100 missed
> > > > > > > > votes is inexcusable however, simply appalling especially for a
> > > > > > > > freshman Jr. Senator such as Obama who has suddenly just decided to
> > > > > > > > run for President on top of it.
>
> > > > > > > > > === quote ===
> > > > > > > > > Not Voting, Excused, Absent, or Present
> > > > > > > > > === end of quote ===
>
> > > > > > > > > > = There are subjects where NV may certainly be a sign that either
> > > > > > > > > > "No" or "Yes" wouldn't fit...
> > > > > > > > > > NV = NO VOTE or in other words, NO OPINION or NO GUTS to commit to an
> > > > > > > > > > answer, over 100 times?? hardly what America needs, we already have a
> > > > > > > > > > President who ignores the issues and runs away from being responsible.
>
> > > > > > > > = May I suggest you look under Immigration and see how many
> > > > > > > > responsible Yes
>
> > > > > > > > > and Nos were also given.
>
> > > > > > > > I hope you aren't suggesting that justifies missing all the rest of
> > > > > > > > his votes?
>
> > > > > > > > = Though I will agree that it does seem like he will take positions
> > > > > > > > after> having had 3 years in the junior seat. For me, it's a sign of wilingness
>
> > > > > > > > = to listen, but he should - definitely - be asked, if possible.
>
> > > > > > > > I am glad you make this point, using your own reasoning then he has NO
> > > > > > > > business running for President. It would stand to reason that if he
> > > > > > > > has not even figured out his position as a US Jr. Senator yet, I
> > > > > > > > cringe at the thought of what he will do as the Commander in Chief, do
> > > > > > > > you see my point yet?
>
> > > > > > = Your point is that Obama is a terrorist because he familiar with> Muslims. You are racist filth and you hurt Hillary's chances of
> > > > > > > winning the nomination. Please understand that you and I are going to
> > > > > > > cancel each other out; your vote means nothing now. Have a swell
>
> > > > > > = day!
>
> > > > > > I know you would like to believe all your utter non sense, and you
> > > > > > quite obviously want to ignore the facts here too.
>
> > > > > > The facts are --
>
> > > > > > Barack Hussein Obama was born a Muslim.
>
> > > > > > Barack Hussein Obama has been a US Senator for only 2 short years and
> > > > > > has failed to commit on many key issues skipping out on more than 100
> > > > > > of his Senate votes, hardly someone who should be running for
> > > > > > President or that anyone should be voting for. He is a disaster
> > > > > > waiting to happen in my opinion, just like Bush was.
>
> > > > > > Barack Hussein Obama hides the fact he was born Muslim
>
> > > > > > ..maybe the real racist is Obama then, do you think black people
> > > > > > cannot be racist? only whites are racist? and why is Obama so ashamed
> > > > > > of being Muslim? and why does he not want to talk about it for some
> > > > > > odd reason? and his supporters as you have proven to all right here,
> > > > > > get very defensive over this simply fact, hostile even, how odd. What
> > > > > > are you hiding I wonder?
>
> > > > = He's NOT a Muslim and nobody is "born" a Muslim or into any other
>
> > > > > religion. I wasn't "born" a Christian and even being baptized doesn't
> > > > > remove free will. You seem to have a problem with Muslims because of
> > > > > the 9/11 attackers. Four of those hijackers were from Egypt which is
> > > > > an ally of the United States.
>
> > > > I have a problem with people that attack my country, in this case they
> > > > just happened to be Muslim, like Obama. That does not mean I think
> > > > Obama is a terrorist, but it does not hurt to examine it, unless you
> > > > are of course, YOU you can't handle the discussion without foaming at
> > > > the mouth over it..
>
> > = By all means, discuss it and hurt Hillary. If you have evidence
> > that
>
> > > Obama is related to terrorism then put it forth. Otherwise be quiet
> > > and move on to supporting your candidate!
>
> > Thank You for once again displaying for all the world how, you, an
> > Obama supporter, immediately resorted to attacks, labels and
> > accusations rather than the needed discussion over the values and back
> > ground of your candidate. Obviously you do have much to hide. My
> > conclusion is that Obama supporters. like you, you are not to be
> > trusted and neither is Obama, thank you for letting us all know, I see
> > your point very clearly now..
>
= Haha. You started this thread by suggesting he was a terrorist.
I'm
> about to switch parties and become a Republican so it doesn't stand to
> reason I would support Obama (who is more progressive) over Hillary, I
= am merely showing the shortcomings of your attacks against him.

You have not shown anything but how volatile you become over a few
simple questions, get over yourself.

> Here's a clue for you: Hillary has no position on the war other
= than "We will end the war responsibly". In other words, she won't
say
> she is against it and to bring the troops home, nor will she say she
> believes in freedom for Iraqis and thus we'll stay. She says
> neither. She is morally ambiguous.

That is false. I listen very closely and she has said very recently
that she will start troop withdrawal in 60 days of her Presidency.
What you need to understand here is that, when you pull troops out of
a region like this, you have to do it very carefully as to not leave
anyone behind, or exposed to attack upon exit. When she says "We will
end the war responsibly" because she knows better than to lie and
pretend we can just order them all home on day one. She will start
planning on day one and within 60 days begin the withdrawal. If that
is what she says we will do, that is what she will do. Hillary is dead
set against this war and wants us out of there, but she also wants to
again make sure our very first priority is the safety of the troops
returning home and that we do it right, after all we never had and
still have no exit strategy and that is certainly not her fault. You
ca bet with her in office there will be one however.

= Tell me why I should support her.
> For those of you who consistently give my posts one star, I assure
> you that ranking my posts will not change the outcome of the
= election.

Well for starters one thing you can count on with Hillary is her word.
If she says she will do something, she will do everything in her power
to get it done. She is not full of false promises, she's the real
deal. She knows what it really takes to accomplish our Nation's goals.
She loves this country, she loves the American people and will fight
to restore our lost prosperity. She is intelligent and not afraid to
take on the big challenges Bush has neglected for years. I believe the
USA will easily get immediate renewed respect world wide with Hillary
as our President. She will be able to accomplish so much more than is
being done now at home and abroad. We are failing and weak in so many
areas domestically, our education, science, housing, the economy,
jobs, environment, it is truly a travesty and a very sad time for
America. We have the future though and free will, so we can choose to
make it better once again. Because of our current situation we need
experienced leadership to make that happen quickly and successfully
and that means a President who deeply cares for our nation and our
people with the know how and vision to get it done most importantly.
With Hillary, she will hit the ground running, she already knows what
to do and that is invaluable in times like these, exactly what we need
right now. We will not be sitting around waiting for her to figure out
what needs to be done and with our current economic crisis that is
major and crucial to our future survival as a nation, anything short
of what she can bring is a serious gamble. Hillary's most recent
economic plan for example, she already knows exactly how she will
implement it, and I believe 110% she will do exactly that if she is
elected, if you look at her plan it helps alot of people in need right
away but she won't stop there, that will be just the beginning.
Hillary and Bill both are very creative people that are fiscally
responsible at the same time, and that is a winning combination.
Create jobs, boost the economy, save and make money all at once. There
are so many reasons why you should vote for Hillary I would be here
for a month typing it all, what are your main concerns other than the
war?

 

[Osiris88]

On Jan 13, 11:22 am, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 13, 12:36 pm, Osiris88 <inde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 13, 10:10 am, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 13, 12:01 pm, Osiris88 <inde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 13, 9:48 am, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jan 13, 11:10 am, Osiris88 <inde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Jan 13, 7:37 am, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Jan 13, 9:24 am, Osiris88 <inde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Jan 13, 6:58 am, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > = OK, but the vote key at the bottom of the page indicated several
> > > > > > > > > possible
>
> > > > > > > > > > reasons:
>
> > > > > > > > > and a normal mix of those would be understandable, over 100 missed
> > > > > > > > > votes is inexcusable however, simply appalling especially for a
> > > > > > > > > freshman Jr. Senator such as Obama who has suddenly just decided to
> > > > > > > > > run for President on top of it.
>
> > > > > > > > > > === quote ===
> > > > > > > > > > Not Voting, Excused, Absent, or Present
> > > > > > > > > > === end of quote ===
>
> > > > > > > > > > > = There are subjects where NV may certainly be a sign that either
> > > > > > > > > > > "No" or "Yes" wouldn't fit...
> > > > > > > > > > > NV = NO VOTE or in other words, NO OPINION or NO GUTS to commit to an
> > > > > > > > > > > answer, over 100 times?? hardly what America needs, we already have a
> > > > > > > > > > > President who ignores the issues and runs away from being responsible.
>
> > > > > > > > > = May I suggest you look under Immigration and see how many
> > > > > > > > > responsible Yes
>
> > > > > > > > > > and Nos were also given.
>
> > > > > > > > > I hope you aren't suggesting that justifies missing all the rest of
> > > > > > > > > his votes?
>
> > > > > > > > > = Though I will agree that it does seem like he will take positions
> > > > > > > > > after> having had 3 years in the junior seat. For me, it's a sign of wilingness
>
> > > > > > > > > = to listen, but he should - definitely - be asked, if possible.
>
> > > > > > > > > I am glad you make this point, using your own reasoning then he has NO
> > > > > > > > > business running for President. It would stand to reason that if he
> > > > > > > > > has not even figured out his position as a US Jr. Senator yet, I
> > > > > > > > > cringe at the thought of what he will do as the Commander in Chief, do
> > > > > > > > > you see my point yet?
>
> > > > > > > = Your point is that Obama is a terrorist because he familiar with> Muslims. You are racist filth and you hurt Hillary's chances of
> > > > > > > > winning the nomination. Please understand that you and I are going to
> > > > > > > > cancel each other out; your vote means nothing now. Have a swell
>
> > > > > > > = day!
>
> > > > > > > I know you would like to believe all your utter non sense, and you
> > > > > > > quite obviously want to ignore the facts here too.
>
> > > > > > > The facts are --
>
> > > > > > > Barack Hussein Obama was born a Muslim.
>
> > > > > > > Barack Hussein Obama has been a US Senator for only 2 short years and
> > > > > > > has failed to commit on many key issues skipping out on more than 100
> > > > > > > of his Senate votes, hardly someone who should be running for
> > > > > > > President or that anyone should be voting for. He is a disaster
> > > > > > > waiting to happen in my opinion, just like Bush was.
>
> > > > > > > Barack Hussein Obama hides the fact he was born Muslim
>
> > > > > > > ..maybe the real racist is Obama then, do you think black people
> > > > > > > cannot be racist? only whites are racist? and why is Obama so ashamed
> > > > > > > of being Muslim? and why does he not want to talk about it for some
> > > > > > > odd reason? and his supporters as you have proven to all right here,
> > > > > > > get very defensive over this simply fact, hostile even, how odd. What
> > > > > > > are you hiding I wonder?
>
> > > > > = He's NOT a Muslim and nobody is "born" a Muslim or into any other
>
> > > > > > religion. I wasn't "born" a Christian and even being baptized doesn't
> > > > > > remove free will. You seem to have a problem with Muslims because of
> > > > > > the 9/11 attackers. Four of those hijackers were from Egypt which is
> > > > > > an ally of the United States.
>
> > > > > I have a problem with people that attack my country, in this case they
> > > > > just happened to be Muslim, like Obama. That does not mean I think
> > > > > Obama is a terrorist, but it does not hurt to examine it, unless you
> > > > > are of course, YOU you can't handle the discussion without foaming at
> > > > > the mouth over it..
>
> > > = By all means, discuss it and hurt Hillary. If you have evidence
> > > that
>
> > > > Obama is related to terrorism then put it forth. Otherwise be quiet
> > > > and move on to supporting your candidate!
>
> > > Thank You for once again displaying for all the world how, you, an
> > > Obama supporter, immediately resorted to attacks, labels and
> > > accusations rather than the needed discussion over the values and back
> > > ground of your candidate. Obviously you do have much to hide. My
> > > conclusion is that Obama supporters. like you, you are not to be
> > > trusted and neither is Obama, thank you for letting us all know, I see
> > > your point very clearly now..
>
> = Haha. You started this thread by suggesting he was a terrorist.
> I'm> about to switch parties and become a Republican so it doesn't stand to
> > reason I would support Obama (who is more progressive) over Hillary, I
>
> = am merely showing the shortcomings of your attacks against him.
>
> You have not shown anything but how volatile you become over a few
> simple questions, get over yourself.
>
> > Here's a clue for you: Hillary has no position on the war other
>
> = than "We will end the war responsibly". In other words, she won't
> say
>
> > she is against it and to bring the troops home, nor will she say she
> > believes in freedom for Iraqis and thus we'll stay. She says
> > neither. She is morally ambiguous.
>
> That is false. I listen very closely and she has said very recently
> that she will start troop withdrawal in 60 days of her Presidency.
> What you need to understand here is that, when you pull troops out of
> a region like this, you have to do it very carefully as to not leave
> anyone behind, or exposed to attack upon exit. When she says "We will
> end the war responsibly" because she knows better than to lie and
> pretend we can just order them all home on day one. She will start
> planning on day one and within 60 days begin the withdrawal. If that
> is what she says we will do, that is what she will do. Hillary is dead
> set against this war and wants us out of there, but she also wants to
> again make sure our very first priority is the safety of the troops
> returning home and that we do it right, after all we never had and
> still have no exit strategy and that is certainly not her fault. You
> ca bet with her in office there will be one however.
>
> = Tell me why I should support her.> For those of you who consistently give my posts one star, I assure
> > you that ranking my posts will not change the outcome of the
>
> = election.
>
> Well for starters one thing you can count on with Hillary is her word.
> If she says she will do something, she will do everything in her power
> to get it done. She is not full of false promises, she's the real
> deal. She knows what it really takes to accomplish our Nation's goals.
> She loves this country, she loves the American people and will fight
> to restore our lost prosperity. She is intelligent and not afraid to
> take on the big challenges Bush has neglected for years. I believe the
> USA will easily get immediate renewed respect world wide with Hillary
> as our President. She will be able to accomplish so much more than is
> being done now at home and abroad. We are failing and weak in so many
> areas domestically, our education, science, housing, the economy,
> jobs, environment, it is truly a travesty and a very sad time for
> America. We have the future though and free will, so we can choose to
> make it better once again. Because of our current situation we need
> experienced leadership to make that happen quickly and successfully
> and that means a President who deeply cares for our nation and our
> people with the know how and vision to get it done most importantly.
> With Hillary, she will hit the ground running, she already knows what
> to do and that is invaluable in times like these, exactly what we need
> right now. We will not be sitting around waiting for her to figure out
> what needs to be done and with our current economic crisis that is
> major and crucial to our future survival as a nation, anything short
> of what she can bring is a serious gamble. Hillary's most recent
> economic plan for example, she already knows exactly how she will
> implement it, and I believe 110% she will do exactly that if she is
> elected, if you look at her plan it helps alot of people in need right
> away but she won't stop there, that will be just the beginning.
> Hillary and Bill both are very creative people that are fiscally
> responsible at the same time, and that is a winning combination.
> Create jobs, boost the economy, save and make money all at once. There
> are so many reasons why you should vote for Hillary I would be here
> for a month typing it all, what are your main concerns other than the
> war?

Hehe. I commend you for changing your tactic in speaking of Hillary.
I can tell you that the attitude you just presented will go WAAAAY
further than attacking Obama. If you and others keep up the positive
attitude then maybe I'll change my mind after all.
Be positive! Trust me, it works a lot better than being negative.

 

[Hillary '08]

On Jan 13, 4:43 pm, Osiris88 <inde...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 13, 11:22 am, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 13, 12:36 pm, Osiris88 <inde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 13, 10:10 am, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 13, 12:01 pm, Osiris88 <inde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jan 13, 9:48 am, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Jan 13, 11:10 am, Osiris88 <inde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Jan 13, 7:37 am, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Jan 13, 9:24 am, Osiris88 <inde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jan 13, 6:58 am, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > = OK, but the vote key at the bottom of the page indicated several
> > > > > > > > > > possible
>
> > > > > > > > > > > reasons:
>
> > > > > > > > > > and a normal mix of those would be understandable, over 100 missed
> > > > > > > > > > votes is inexcusable however, simply appalling especially for a
> > > > > > > > > > freshman Jr. Senator such as Obama who has suddenly just decided to
> > > > > > > > > > run for President on top of it.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > === quote ===
> > > > > > > > > > > Not Voting, Excused, Absent, or Present
> > > > > > > > > > > === end of quote ===
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > = There are subjects where NV may certainly be a sign that either
> > > > > > > > > > > > "No" or "Yes" wouldn't fit...
> > > > > > > > > > > > NV = NO VOTE or in other words, NO OPINION or NO GUTS to commit to an
> > > > > > > > > > > > answer, over 100 times?? hardly what America needs, we already have a
> > > > > > > > > > > > President who ignores the issues and runs away from being responsible.
>
> > > > > > > > > > = May I suggest you look under Immigration and see how many
> > > > > > > > > > responsible Yes
>
> > > > > > > > > > > and Nos were also given.
>
> > > > > > > > > > I hope you aren't suggesting that justifies missing all the rest of
> > > > > > > > > > his votes?
>
> > > > > > > > > > = Though I will agree that it does seem like he will take positions
> > > > > > > > > > after> having had 3 years in the junior seat. For me, it's a sign of wilingness
>
> > > > > > > > > > = to listen, but he should - definitely - be asked, if possible.
>
> > > > > > > > > > I am glad you make this point, using your own reasoning then he has NO
> > > > > > > > > > business running for President. It would stand to reason that if he
> > > > > > > > > > has not even figured out his position as a US Jr. Senator yet, I
> > > > > > > > > > cringe at the thought of what he will do as the Commander in Chief, do
> > > > > > > > > > you see my point yet?
>
> > > > > > > > = Your point is that Obama is a terrorist because he familiar with> Muslims. You are racist filth and you hurt Hillary's chances of
> > > > > > > > > winning the nomination. Please understand that you and I are going to
> > > > > > > > > cancel each other out; your vote means nothing now. Have a swell
>
> > > > > > > > = day!
>
> > > > > > > > I know you would like to believe all your utter non sense, and you
> > > > > > > > quite obviously want to ignore the facts here too.
>
> > > > > > > > The facts are --
>
> > > > > > > > Barack Hussein Obama was born a Muslim.
>
> > > > > > > > Barack Hussein Obama has been a US Senator for only 2 short years and
> > > > > > > > has failed to commit on many key issues skipping out on more than 100
> > > > > > > > of his Senate votes, hardly someone who should be running for
> > > > > > > > President or that anyone should be voting for. He is a disaster
> > > > > > > > waiting to happen in my opinion, just like Bush was.
>
> > > > > > > > Barack Hussein Obama hides the fact he was born Muslim
>
> > > > > > > > ..maybe the real racist is Obama then, do you think black people
> > > > > > > > cannot be racist? only whites are racist? and why is Obama so ashamed
> > > > > > > > of being Muslim? and why does he not want to talk about it for some
> > > > > > > > odd reason? and his supporters as you have proven to all right here,
> > > > > > > > get very defensive over this simply fact, hostile even, how odd. What
> > > > > > > > are you hiding I wonder?
>
> > > > > > = He's NOT a Muslim and nobody is "born" a Muslim or into any other
>
> > > > > > > religion. I wasn't "born" a Christian and even being baptized doesn't
> > > > > > > remove free will. You seem to have a problem with Muslims because of
> > > > > > > the 9/11 attackers. Four of those hijackers were from Egypt which is
> > > > > > > an ally of the United States.
>
> > > > > > I have a problem with people that attack my country, in this case they
> > > > > > just happened to be Muslim, like Obama. That does not mean I think
> > > > > > Obama is a terrorist, but it does not hurt to examine it, unless you
> > > > > > are of course, YOU you can't handle the discussion without foaming at
> > > > > > the mouth over it..
>
> > > > = By all means, discuss it and hurt Hillary. If you have evidence
> > > > that
>
> > > > > Obama is related to terrorism then put it forth. Otherwise be quiet
> > > > > and move on to supporting your candidate!
>
> > > > Thank You for once again displaying for all the world how, you, an
> > > > Obama supporter, immediately resorted to attacks, labels and
> > > > accusations rather than the needed discussion over the values and back
> > > > ground of your candidate. Obviously you do have much to hide. My
> > > > conclusion is that Obama supporters. like you, you are not to be
> > > > trusted and neither is Obama, thank you for letting us all know, I see
> > > > your point very clearly now..
>
> > = Haha. You started this thread by suggesting he was a terrorist.
> > I'm> about to switch parties and become a Republican so it doesn't stand to
> > > reason I would support Obama (who is more progressive) over Hillary, I
>
> > = am merely showing the shortcomings of your attacks against him.
>
> > You have not shown anything but how volatile you become over a few
> > simple questions, get over yourself.
>
> > > Here's a clue for you: Hillary has no position on the war other
>
> > = than "We will end the war responsibly". In other words, she won't
> > say
>
> > > she is against it and to bring the troops home, nor will she say she
> > > believes in freedom for Iraqis and thus we'll stay. She says
> > > neither. She is morally ambiguous.
>
> > That is false. I listen very closely and she has said very recently
> > that she will start troop withdrawal in 60 days of her Presidency.
> > What you need to understand here is that, when you pull troops out of
> > a region like this, you have to do it very carefully as to not leave
> > anyone behind, or exposed to attack upon exit. When she says "We will
> > end the war responsibly" because she knows better than to lie and
> > pretend we can just order them all home on day one. She will start
> > planning on day one and within 60 days begin the withdrawal. If that
> > is what she says we will do, that is what she will do. Hillary is dead
> > set against this war and wants us out of there, but she also wants to
> > again make sure our very first priority is the safety of the troops
> > returning home and that we do it right, after all we never had and
> > still have no exit strategy and that is certainly not her fault. You
> > ca bet with her in office there will be one however.
>
> > = Tell me why I should support her.> For those of you who consistently give my posts one star, I assure
> > > you that ranking my posts will not change the outcome of the
>
> > = election.
>
> > Well for starters one thing you can count on with Hillary is her word.
> > If she says she will do something, she will do everything in her power
> > to get it done. She is not full of false promises, she's the real
> > deal. She knows what it really takes to accomplish our Nation's goals.
> > She loves this country, she loves the American people and will fight
> > to restore our lost prosperity. She is intelligent and not afraid to
> > take on the big challenges Bush has neglected for years. I believe the
> > USA will easily get immediate renewed respect world wide with Hillary
> > as our President. She will be able to accomplish so much more than is
> > being done now at home and abroad. We are failing and weak in so many
> > areas domestically, our education, science, housing, the economy,
> > jobs, environment, it is truly a travesty and a very sad time for
> > America. We have the future though and free will, so we can choose to
> > make it better once again. Because of our current situation we need
> > experienced leadership to make that happen quickly and successfully
> > and that means a President who deeply cares for our nation and our
> > people with the know how and vision to get it done most importantly.
> > With Hillary, she will hit the ground running, she already knows what
> > to do and that is invaluable in times like these, exactly what we need
> > right now. We will not be sitting around waiting for her to figure out
> > what needs to be done and with our current economic crisis that is
> > major and crucial to our future survival as a nation, anything short
> > of what she can bring is a serious gamble. Hillary's most recent
> > economic plan for example, she already knows exactly how she will
> > implement it, and I believe 110% she will do exactly that if she is
> > elected, if you look at her plan it helps alot of people in need right
> > away but she won't stop there, that will be just the beginning.
> > Hillary and Bill both are very creative people that are fiscally
> > responsible at the same time, and that is a winning combination.
> > Create jobs, boost the economy, save and make money all at once. There
> > are so many reasons why you should vote for Hillary I would be here
> > for a month typing it all, what are your main concerns other than the
> > war?
>
> Hehe. I commend you for changing your tactic in speaking of Hillary.
> I can tell you that the attitude you just presented will go WAAAAY
> further than attacking Obama. If you and others keep up the positive
> attitude then maybe I'll change my mind after all.
> Be positive! Trust me, it works a lot better than being negative.

I am a VERY positive person, and so is Hillary and that is just one of
the many reasons I support her. Someone needs to tell Obama in fact
and his people what you just said, like their inferring Bill or
Hillary are racist recently? that is just absurd! it's the lowest,
sleaziest and weakest tack I have seen yet from Obama. The Clintons
are well loved in the black community, Bill set up his office in
Harlem years ago in fact and is a champion of the black community
awarded with honors from their organizations. Comments both Hill and
Bill made recently were not at all about Obama's race, not even close,
what a serious stretch by Obama, he should apologize in fact.
Conveniently Obama's people quite obviously took two comments made by
each of the Clintons and tried to magically turn them into a race
issue though. The cart came before the horse there, the Obama people
obviously planned the race card attack in advance if they suddenly had
issue with two separate statements made by the Clintons when neither
comment had anything to do with Obama's race, it was VERY negative on
Obama's part but it is not the first time. I think the fact on the
other hand Obama's church is all black and he has Muslim roots he
seems ashamed to talk about is more racist than anything in itself.
You know Obama is getting desperate when he stoops to playing the race
card, it reminds me of the same dirty tricks Bush and Rove pulled in
2004. Obama started all this negativity months ago, but I do agree, it
is not what this campaign should be about, Obama and Edwards both
asked for it though, begged for it in fact, they want to question
Hillary fine, we have some q

 

[Hillary '08]

= Hehe. I commend you for changing your tactic in speaking of
Hillary.
> I can tell you that the attitude you just presented will go WAAAAY
> further than attacking Obama. If you and others keep up the positive
> attitude then maybe I'll change my mind after all.
= Be positive! Trust me, it works a lot better than being negative.

I am a VERY positive person, and so is Hillary and that is just one of
the many reasons I support her. Someone needs to tell Obama in fact
and his people what you just said, like their inferring Bill or
Hillary are racist recently? that is just absurd! it's the lowest,
sleaziest and weakest tack I have seen yet from Obama. The Clintons
are well loved in the black community, Bill set up his office in
Harlem years ago in fact and is a champion of the black community
awarded with honors from their organizations. Comments both Hill and
Bill made recently were not at all about Obama's race, not even close,
what a serious stretch by Obama, he should apologize in fact.
Conveniently Obama's people quite obviously took two comments made by
each of the Clintons and tried to magically turn them into a race
issue though. The cart came before the horse there, the Obama people
obviously planned the race card attack in advance if they suddenly had
issue with two separate statements made by the Clintons when neither
comment had anything to do with Obama's race, it was VERY negative on
Obama's part but it is not the first time. I think the fact on the
other hand Obama's church is all black and he has Muslim roots he
seems ashamed to talk about is more racist than anything in itself.
You know Obama is getting desperate when he stoops to playing the race
card, it reminds me of the same dirty tricks Bush and Rove pulled in
2004. Obama started all this negativity months ago, but I do agree, it
is not what this campaign should be about, Obama and Edwards both
asked for it though, begged for it in fact, they want to question
Hillary fine, well we have some questions too!

 

[Osiris88]

On Jan 13, 11:34 pm, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> = Hehe. I commend you for changing your tactic in speaking of
> Hillary.> I can tell you that the attitude you just presented will go WAAAAY
> > further than attacking Obama. If you and others keep up the positive
> > attitude then maybe I'll change my mind after all.
>
> = Be positive! Trust me, it works a lot better than being negative.
>
> I am a VERY positive person, and so is Hillary and that is just one of
> the many reasons I support her. Someone needs to tell Obama in fact
> and his people what you just said, like their inferring Bill or
> Hillary are racist recently? that is just absurd! it's the lowest,
> sleaziest and weakest tack I have seen yet from Obama. The Clintons
> are well loved in the black community, Bill set up his office in
> Harlem years ago in fact and is a champion of the black community
> awarded with honors from their organizations. Comments both Hill and
> Bill made recently were not at all about Obama's race, not even close,
> what a serious stretch by Obama, he should apologize in fact.
> Conveniently Obama's people quite obviously took two comments made by
> each of the Clintons and tried to magically turn them into a race
> issue though. The cart came before the horse there, the Obama people
> obviously planned the race card attack in advance if they suddenly had
> issue with two separate statements made by the Clintons when neither
> comment had anything to do with Obama's race, it was VERY negative on
> Obama's part but it is not the first time. I think the fact on the
> other hand Obama's church is all black and he has Muslim roots he
> seems ashamed to talk about is more racist than anything in itself.
> You know Obama is getting desperate when he stoops to playing the race
> card, it reminds me of the same dirty tricks Bush and Rove pulled in
> 2004. Obama started all this negativity months ago, but I do agree, it
> is not what this campaign should be about, Obama and Edwards both
> asked for it though, begged for it in fact, they want to question
> Hillary fine, well we have some questions too!

Well you just reverted back to your old ways, which is sad. The
Clinton campaign keeps connecting drugs and Obama.
Now I have a question for you. Strictly looking at policy and
issues, what is it about Hillary that you like so much compared with
Obama's views on the same issues?

 

[Jerry Okamura]

"Osiris88" <indexai@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b846b5ea-4467-423c-93b5-f61835b1796f@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 13, 10:10 am, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 13, 12:01 pm, Osiris88 <inde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 13, 9:48 am, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > On Jan 13, 11:10 am, Osiris88 <inde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > On Jan 13, 7:37 am, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > On Jan 13, 9:24 am, Osiris88 <inde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > On Jan 13, 6:58 am, "Hillary '08" <icadse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > = OK, but the vote key at the bottom of the page indicated
>> > > > > > > several
>> > > > > > > possible
>>
>> > > > > > > > reasons:
>>
>> > > > > > > and a normal mix of those would be understandable, over 100
>> > > > > > > missed
>> > > > > > > votes is inexcusable however, simply appalling especially for
>> > > > > > > a
>> > > > > > > freshman Jr. Senator such as Obama who has suddenly just
>> > > > > > > decided to
>> > > > > > > run for President on top of it.
>>
>> > > > > > > > === quote ===
>> > > > > > > > Not Voting, Excused, Absent, or Present
>> > > > > > > > === end of quote ===
>>
>> > > > > > > > > = There are subjects where NV may certainly be a sign
>> > > > > > > > > that either
>> > > > > > > > > "No" or "Yes" wouldn't fit...
>> > > > > > > > > NV = NO VOTE or in other words, NO OPINION or NO GUTS to
>> > > > > > > > > commit to an
>> > > > > > > > > answer, over 100 times?? hardly what America needs, we
>> > > > > > > > > already have a
>> > > > > > > > > President who ignores the issues and runs away from being
>> > > > > > > > > responsible.
>>
>> > > > > > > = May I suggest you look under Immigration and see how many
>> > > > > > > responsible Yes
>>
>> > > > > > > > and Nos were also given.
>>
>> > > > > > > I hope you aren't suggesting that justifies missing all the
>> > > > > > > rest of
>> > > > > > > his votes?
>>
>> > > > > > > = Though I will agree that it does seem like he will take
>> > > > > > > positions
>> > > > > > > after> having had 3 years in the junior seat. For me, it's a
>> > > > > > > sign of wilingness
>>
>> > > > > > > = to listen, but he should - definitely - be asked, if
>> > > > > > > possible.
>>
>> > > > > > > I am glad you make this point, using your own reasoning then
>> > > > > > > he has NO
>> > > > > > > business running for President. It would stand to reason that
>> > > > > > > if he
>> > > > > > > has not even figured out his position as a US Jr. Senator
>> > > > > > > yet, I
>> > > > > > > cringe at the thought of what he will do as the Commander in
>> > > > > > > Chief, do
>> > > > > > > you see my point yet?
>>
>> > > > > = Your point is that Obama is a terrorist because he familiar
>> > > > > with> Muslims. You are racist filth and you hurt Hillary's
>> > > > > chances of
>> > > > > > winning the nomination. Please understand that you and I are
>> > > > > > going to
>> > > > > > cancel each other out; your vote means nothing now. Have a
>> > > > > > swell
>>
>> > > > > = day!
>>
>> > > > > I know you would like to believe all your utter non sense, and
>> > > > > you
>> > > > > quite obviously want to ignore the facts here too.
>>
>> > > > > The facts are --
>>
>> > > > > Barack Hussein Obama was born a Muslim.
>>
>> > > > > Barack Hussein Obama has been a US Senator for only 2 short years
>> > > > > and
>> > > > > has failed to commit on many key issues skipping out on more than
>> > > > > 100
>> > > > > of his Senate votes, hardly someone who should be running for
>> > > > > President or that anyone should be voting for. He is a disaster
>> > > > > waiting to happen in my opinion, just like Bush was.
>>
>> > > > > Barack Hussein Obama hides the fact he was born Muslim
>>
>> > > > > ..maybe the real racist is Obama then, do you think black people
>> > > > > cannot be racist? only whites are racist? and why is Obama so
>> > > > > ashamed
>> > > > > of being Muslim? and why does he not want to talk about it for
>> > > > > some
>> > > > > odd reason? and his supporters as you have proven to all right
>> > > > > here,
>> > > > > get very defensive over this simply fact, hostile even, how odd.
>> > > > > What
>> > > > > are you hiding I wonder?
>>
>> > > = He's NOT a Muslim and nobody is "born" a Muslim or into any other
>>
>> > > > religion. I wasn't "born" a Christian and even being baptized
>> > > > doesn't
>> > > > remove free will. You seem to have a problem with Muslims because
>> > > > of
>> > > > the 9/11 attackers. Four of those hijackers were from Egypt which
>> > > > is
>> > > > an ally of the United States.
>>
>> > > I have a problem with people that attack my country, in this case
>> > > they
>> > > just happened to be Muslim, like Obama. That does not mean I think
>> > > Obama is a terrorist, but it does not hurt to examine it, unless you
>> > > are of course, YOU you can't handle the discussion without foaming at
>> > > the mouth over it..
>>
>> = By all means, discuss it and hurt Hillary. If you have evidence
>> that
>>
>> > Obama is related to terrorism then put it forth. Otherwise be quiet
>> > and move on to supporting your candidate!
>>
>> Thank You for once again displaying for all the world how, you, an
>> Obama supporter, immediately resorted to attacks, labels and
>> accusations rather than the needed discussion over the values and back
>> ground of your candidate. Obviously you do have much to hide. My
>> conclusion is that Obama supporters. like you, you are not to be
>> trusted and neither is Obama, thank you for letting us all know, I see
>> your point very clearly now..
>
> Haha. You started this thread by suggesting he was a terrorist. I'm
> about to switch parties and become a Republican so it doesn't stand to
> reason I would support Obama (who is more progressive) over Hillary, I
> am merely showing the shortcomings of your attacks against him.
> Here's a clue for you: Hillary has no position on the war other
> than "We will end the war responsibly". In other words, she won't say
> she is against it and to bring the troops home, nor will she say she
> believes in freedom for Iraqis and thus we'll stay. She says
> neither. She is morally ambiguous. Tell me why I should support her.
> For those of you who consistently give my posts one star, I assure
> you that ranking my posts will not change the outcome of the
> election.

I hate to tell you this but saying you are against a war that has already
been waged, is like saying you were against WWII after the Japanese and
Germans were defeated. It is a meaningless statement.