Re: Design

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Onideus Mad Hatter

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On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:33:04 -0700 (PDT),
whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Oct 30, 1:27?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>productions.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:59:23 -0700 (PDT),
>>
>>
>>
>> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >On Oct 29, 6:11?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>> >productions.net> wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:53:29 -0700 (PDT),

>>
>> >> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >> >On Oct 28, 7:42?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>> >> >productions.net> wrote:

>>
>> >> >> The difference being I have talent/skill/options and ultimately a
>> >> >> CHOICE and it's a choice that allows me to be more creative on a
>> >> >> personal level, not that you would know anything about creativity
>> >> >> Drew, but then that's the difference between being a "professional"
>> >> >> and being an artist.

>>
>> >> >http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/GD-Batman.png

>>
>> >> ...yes Drew, thank you for providing proof of my awesome graphic
>> >> design abilities.

>>
>> >A priceless example of your delusions.

>>
>> And where is your basis of comparison, Drew? ?Where's YOUR work,
>> done in a similar style/form? ?If you think you're so much better, if
>> you think my work is such a joke, well step the **** up, Junior. ?You
>> keep mouthin off, let's see you try and NOT run away for once. ?Or
>> are you just too much of a ****in *****?
>>
>> notices you snipped out the part about the lil challenge that
>> shouldn't take a self proclaimed "expert" like you more than five
>> minutes to make
>>
>> Yup, yer a *****, plain and simple. ?Run the **** away, Drew, yer
>> REAL good at that.
>>

>
>Well first of all I'm a graphic designer. Nothing more. Nothing less.
>Frankly I could give a **** how you hid your sister's pink eye.


You're no graphic anything, Bumbles, yer a pissy, butthurt, poor,
white trash piece of ****. If you weren't living in ****in squalor
you would be able to tell the difference between pink eye and contact
lens irritation...but then I guess poor people like you can't afford
contacts, huh? It's okay, "stock boy", don't get mad, you've got a
clean up on aisle 8! Hurry Drew, hurry!

>But as you may recall it was you that cut and ran from the Graphic
>Design Challenge I put you up to some months back. Remember "Word
>Art". Sure you do. I blew your work so far out of the water you quit
>after just one effort. "I'm too busy for this ****" was your excuse.
>The only fault you found in my work was the compression, like that
>matters one whit.


Actually, Retard, you were soundly beaten the **** into the proverbial
wall 'o Usenet with just one ****in image:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/I_****_Drew's_Mom_-_01.png

And in return, **** like THIS was the best you could counter with:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Word_To_Drew's_Mom.png

snicker

Oh yeah, stellar comeback, Spittles. You've got about as much
imagination and creativity as a brick ****ing wall. You also clearly
lost on the whole quality vs quantity. You churned out three
craptastic pieces of pedestrian level, college flunkie **** smears and
I made one completely original, inspiring and imaginative design form.
You should consider yourself privileged that I even wasted so much
talent on a pathetic nothing liak yourself, especially considering all
you could offer in return, which was just...ass, ass to the power of
three.

You LOST Drew, you were HUMILIATED , the fact that you didn't even
realize it makes it just that much more entertaining. I mean
honestly, how the **** many shades of stupid do you gotta get before
you can't even realize how the **** far outta yer league you are? You
couldn't even BREATH on my level, Dipshit.

Basically you're the kind of asshole who read a bunch of ass ended
books on "good design" in order to try and pass yourself off as a
designer. But the thing of it is, those books never taught you
actually HOW to design anything, they only taught you what was
"good" design in the most pedestrian, safe level, way imaginable. You
got no skillz, Doofy. You talk the talk, but you can't walk the walk,
**** yer poverty of intellect is so low you couldn't even identify the
most simplistic of graphic design techniques (in the image with the
fixed eye).

You lose, ****face. Don't like it. Then get all pissy and indignant
about it. And then bitch. Yeah, yer REAL good at that, Mouth.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ? x ?
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."

"Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty ****ing high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. snicker ...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
 
On Oct 30, 4:01?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:33:04 -0700 (PDT),



What a maroon.

Drew
 
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:45:20 -0700 (PDT),
whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Oct 30, 4:01?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>productions.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:33:04 -0700 (PDT),

>
>
>What a maroon.


What's the matter, Pissy? All done? LOL, run away, prove to everyone
just what a failure you are...again. snicker

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ? x ?
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."

"Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty ****ing high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. snicker ...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
 
On Oct 30, 5:09?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:45:20 -0700 (PDT),
>
> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >On Oct 30, 4:01?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
> >productions.net> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:33:04 -0700 (PDT),

>
> >What a maroon.

>
> What's the matter, Pissy? ?All done? ?LOL, run away, prove to everyone
> just what a failure you are...again. ? snicker


I don't have the need to prove anything to anyone. But, here's my
pumpkin for this year: http://pattersondesign.com/09pumpkin.html

Boo.

Drew
 
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:07:59 -0700 (PDT),
whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Oct 30, 5:09?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>productions.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:45:20 -0700 (PDT),
>>
>> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >On Oct 30, 4:01?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>> >productions.net> wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:33:04 -0700 (PDT),

>>
>> >What a maroon.

>>
>> What's the matter, Pissy? ?All done? ?LOL, run away, prove to everyone
>> just what a failure you are...again. ? snicker

>
>I don't have the need to prove anything to anyone. But, here's my
>pumpkin for this year: http://pattersondesign.com/09pumpkin.html
>
>Boo.
>
>Drew


....you "designed" your pumpkin to look like Easter...wow...just...WOW!

the entire planet has just given you a face palm

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ? x ?
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."

"Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty ****ing high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. snicker ...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
 
Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:07:59 -0700 (PDT),
> whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >On Oct 30, 5:09?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
> >productions.net> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:45:20 -0700 (PDT),
> >>
> >> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> >On Oct 30, 4:01?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
> >> >productions.net> wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:33:04 -0700 (PDT),
> >>
> >> >What a maroon.
> >>
> >> What's the matter, Pissy? ?All done? ?LOL, run away, prove to everyone
> >> just what a failure you are...again. ? snicker

> >
> >I don't have the need to prove anything to anyone. But, here's my
> >pumpkin for this year: http://pattersondesign.com/09pumpkin.html
> >
> >Boo.
> >
> >Drew

>
> ...you "designed" your pumpkin to look like Easter...wow...just...WOW!


NIce reach, but a mistaken one. I created a jack-o-lantern to look
like a rabbit.

What have you created lately?

Drew
 
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:37:11 -0800 (PST),
whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com wrote:

>
>
>Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:07:59 -0700 (PDT),
>> whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >On Oct 30, 5:09?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>> >productions.net> wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:45:20 -0700 (PDT),
>> >>
>> >> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >> >On Oct 30, 4:01?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>> >> >productions.net> wrote:
>> >> >> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:33:04 -0700 (PDT),
>> >>
>> >> >What a maroon.
>> >>
>> >> What's the matter, Pissy? ?All done? ?LOL, run away, prove to everyone
>> >> just what a failure you are...again. ? snicker
>> >
>> >I don't have the need to prove anything to anyone. But, here's my
>> >pumpkin for this year: http://pattersondesign.com/09pumpkin.html
>> >
>> >Boo.
>> >
>> >Drew

>>
>> ...you "designed" your pumpkin to look like Easter...wow...just...WOW!

>
>NIce reach, but a mistaken one. I created a jack-o-lantern to look
>like a rabbit.
>
>What have you created lately?


And rabbits have...what to do with Halloween? Oh, yes, nothing. But
they have EVERYTHING to do with EASTER you bumbling idiot! Yeesh,
yer such a crappy "designer" you can't even keep your holidays
straight!

As for what I've been doing, I'm currently in negotiations with The
Cookie Jar Group for limited film production rights to the Care Bears,
which they recently attained control over from The American Greetings
Corporation as a part of a deal to settle a lawsuit they had with
them. They also gained control over the Strawberry Shortcake
franchise as well, although as a part of the deals The AGC can still
profit off of the franchises for the next 10 years. The last e-mail I
got from them inquired about my current CB site and said they might be
interested in buying it or at least the design forms and they also
might be interested in an exchange deal, the site designs for limited
film rights.

What I'm hoping to do is to take my CB fanfic:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_text/Care_Bear_Story.pdf

Only 1/3rd finished so far. And to make it into an animated movie.
One of the things I hope to do is to use a new form of animation,
which involves non-cell shaded character forms, a lot of dodge/burn
color/lighting effects, and a mesh of rendering, digital art and live
video. Here's some good examples of what I'm hoping to achieve:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Epic_Art/Epic_Castle.jpg
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Epic_Art/Epic_City.jpg
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Epic_Art/Epic_Disaster.jpg
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Epic_Art/Epic_Plane.jpg
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Epic_Art/Epic_Post_Apolcolypse.jpg
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Epic_Art/Epic_Ships.jpg

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Non_Cell_Shaded_Anime_Style/Example_1.jpg
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Non_Cell_Shaded_Anime_Style/Example_2.jpg
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Non_Cell_Shaded_Anime_Style/Example_3.jpg
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Non_Cell_Shaded_Anime_Style/Example_4.jpg
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Non_Cell_Shaded_Anime_Style/Example_5.jpg
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Non_Cell_Shaded_Anime_Style/Example_6.jpg

....obviously such a form of animation won't be easy to produce and
with my current resources I'm looking at a time line of roughly five
to seven years to produce the whole film. Even with additional
resources I would still be looking at, at least 2 to 3 years, simply
because there just aren't that many graphic designers who have the
level of skill needed to produce work of that level and also because
the movie has to be created from scratch frame by frame.

Aside from that I'm also working on an RPG style game that combines
elements of Maniac Mansion, Zelda, Mega Man and various other popular
game titles. And of course I've also got about a dozen other sites
I'm also working on. And of course various sorts of contract work,
much of which I'm not at liberty to discuss in order to protect my
clients and my client's clients. I primarily work as a sub-contractor
doing freelance work for OTHER sub-contractors, as such I usually
can't openly discuss such work since those I sub-contractor for would
likely go out of business if their clients knew that they weren't the
ones actually producing the content being contracted out. And then of
course there's also the problem with Hatter Addicts who would not
hesitate to attack a client if they thought it would "get back" at me.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ? x ?
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."

"Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty ****ing high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. snicker ...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
 
On Nov 3, 4:37?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:

> What I'm hoping to do is


I asked "What have you created lately?" Not what you hope to create.

> One of the things I hope


I asked "What have you created lately?" Not what you hope to create.

> Here's some good examples of what I'm hoping


I asked "What have you created lately?" Not what you hope to create.

to achieve:http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Epic_Art/
Epic_Castle.jpghttp://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Epic_Art/
Epic_City.jpghttp://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Epic_Art/
Epic_Disaster.jpghttp://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Epic_Art/
Epic_Plane.jpghttp://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Epic_Art/
Epic_Post_Apolcoly...http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/
Epic_Art/Epic_Ships.jpg
>
> http://www.backwater-productions.ne...ductions.net/_adg/Non_Cell_Shaded_Anime_Style...
>


Looks like you'll need a talent transplant to get to those levels from
this tracing:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/GD-Batman.png

> Aside from that I'm also working on an RPG style game that combines


Unattainable, lofty dreams and hopes snipped.

Drew
 
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:05:57 -0800 (PST),
whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Nov 3, 4:37?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>productions.net> wrote:
>
>> What I'm hoping to do is

>
>I asked "What have you created lately?" Not what you hope to create.
>
>> One of the things I hope

>
>I asked "What have you created lately?" Not what you hope to create.
>
>> Here's some good examples of what I'm hoping

>
>I asked "What have you created lately?" Not what you hope to create.
>
>to achieve:http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Epic_Art/
>Epic_Castle.jpghttp://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Epic_Art/
>Epic_City.jpghttp://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Epic_Art/
>Epic_Disaster.jpghttp://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Epic_Art/
>Epic_Plane.jpghttp://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Epic_Art/
>Epic_Post_Apolcoly...http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/
>Epic_Art/Epic_Ships.jpg
>>
>> http://www.backwater-productions.ne...ductions.net/_adg/Non_Cell_Shaded_Anime_Style...
>>

>
>Looks like you'll need a talent transplant to get to those levels from
>this tracing:
>http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/GD-Batman.png
>
>> Aside from that I'm also working on an RPG style game that combines

>
>Unattainable, lofty dreams and hopes snipped.


LOL, it's funny you link to the Batman drawing, that actually IS on
that level. Not that I would expect an amateur like yourself to know
good art one way or the other, but next time you should ass rape that
drawing of Bloom instead, because at least it ISN'T on the same
level of design ability, you moron.

As far as thinking that what I'm working on is some magically
unattainble dream...LOL...yeah I suppose an amateur of your level
would probably see things that way. To an artist like myself though
it's a very realisitc goal, especially since I've developed a whole
variety of techniques for producing "shiny art" as some call it, very
quickly and with very little effort. I've shared this technique with
a few others who have been using it extensively. The only downside is
that the techniques don't produce much variation in style, which has
led to, well...this...
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Amuria

....for starters. There are a dozen others I showed/gave the
techniques to and they in turn have shared them with others. The
result of course has been rather massive haet wars from idiots
screaming on all sides that it's some vast conspiracy and all the work
is just being done by one person or stupid **** like that.

It IS a form of tracing, yes, but it's tracing UNIQUE models that
are created/ported to Poser and then line art is rendered from those
3D models. The shading/lighting is also created automatically by the
rendering software and needs only be layer blended into the file
version. Essentially, it's 3D animation that's used to create 2D
animation of incredible looking style and beauty, a hybrid of the two
forms, which can also be combined with live/RL video/photos to produce
an even greater looking result.

It should be noted though that my techniques are not the ONLY
techniques for producing this style of work, there are actually
several dozen at this point, each with their own benefits and
deficiencies.

It should also be noted that I'm NOT the only one who will be
working on the movie should we attain the rights to make it. I
currently have a dozen other artists who have signed on to the project
and we're hoping to get some more people involved as well.

And as I said, I'm also working on a whole variety of other projects.
Today I created most of the primary NPC adult characters in the game:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/RPG_Game/

And you...well...you made an Easter Pumpkin...wow...just...WOW! rolls
eyes

Speaking of the holidays though, seeing as how we're getting closer to
Keeristmas I need to start getting ready to decorate. I'm going to
completely cover the entire house in Keeristmas lights. Here's a fun
photo:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Photos/Keeristmas_Lights_1996.png

That was my very first Keeristmas light project, way back in '96. It's
kind of hard to see a lot of the lights in that picture though. Every
year I do it (usually every other year) I try to make it even more
extravagant than the last time. This year is gonna be ~really~ neat.

There is quite a bit of art/design to it too. Too often you see these
houses today that are just completely litered with holiday crap and
it's all just kind of strewn about without any kind of design or theme
in mind. And of course they just look like tacky, pink flamingo, lawn
jockey crap. I really put a lot of thought into planning my holiday
designs and try to make them are awe inspiring as possible without
making them look like a tornado ripped through a Keeristmas supply
store and then blew past my house.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ? x ?
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."

"Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty ****ing high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. snicker ...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
 
On Nov 3, 6:59?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:


> And as I said, I'm also working on a whole variety of other projects.
> Today I created most of the primary NPC adult characters in the game:http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/RPG_Game/


That should read, "Today I copied..."

Thanks for the entertainment.

Later.

Drew
 
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:22:30 -0800 (PST),
whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Nov 3, 6:59?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>productions.net> wrote:
>
>
>> And as I said, I'm also working on a whole variety of other projects.
>> Today I created most of the primary NPC adult characters in the game:http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/RPG_Game/

>
>That should read, "Today I copied..."


Copied from what, Retardo? Those are all my own layouts, those are
all my own custom characters and a good 90% of the sprite material is
all my own original content. Actually maybe even more than that since
I'm not even using the original RPG Maker body styles. Since I made
my own body styles even the clothing and hair portions that were
ported/grafted into the models were altered significantly in order to
make them compatible with my models. Much of the layout sprite
material is all my own as well. Some stuff, like the couches, I used
the segment widths of another similar model but created my own sprite
material and 2 of the 3 positions were made completely from scratch
because there were no similar models in those position configurations.
Pretty much everything is either mine, or a hybrid/grafted version of
several other, completely unrelated parts. The washers are completely
original, as is the fridge, stove, bathtub, toilets, sinks. The stair
case configurations are also my own, based very loosely on a model of
some stone steps.

Of course, as desperate as you are for a comeback it's no surprise
that you're lashing out and trying to play the plagiarism card, it's
basically what you do every time you've been soundly bitch slapped
into submission. And of course, as always, you can NEVER back up
your infantile, reaching lames.

>Thanks for the entertainment.


Your stupidity and ignorance is rather entertaining, isn't it?


--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ? x ?
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."

"Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty ****ing high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. snicker ...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
 
On Nov 4, 12:18?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:

> Of course, as desperate as you are for a comeback it's no surprise
> that you're lashing out and trying to play the plagiarism card, it's
> basically what you do every time you've been soundly bitch slapped
> into submission. ?And of course, as always, you can NEVER back up
> your infantile, reaching lames.


>> And as I said, I'm also working on a whole variety of other projects.
>> Today I created most of the primary NPC adult characters in the game:http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/RPG_Game/


http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/RPG_Game/Dorm_Mother_-_Green_-_Jennifer_Leland_-_Face.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/RPG_Game/Misc_-_Preacher_-_Father_Langdon_-_Face.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/RPG_Game/Misc_-_Head_Chef_-_Julian_Tremaine_-_Face.png

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/RPG_Game/Misc_-_Nurse_-_Crystal_Dunham_-_Face.png

You lack the talent to produce those, among all the other character
faces. No one could do all those in a day and still have time to stock
the shelves at Wal-Mart. But you're welcome to prove me wrong. Post
your preliminary sketches.

Drew
 
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:23:05 -0800 (PST),
whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Nov 4, 12:18?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>productions.net> wrote:
>
>> Of course, as desperate as you are for a comeback it's no surprise
>> that you're lashing out and trying to play the plagiarism card, it's
>> basically what you do every time you've been soundly bitch slapped
>> into submission. ?And of course, as always, you can NEVER back up
>> your infantile, reaching lames.

>
>>> And as I said, I'm also working on a whole variety of other projects.
>>> Today I created most of the primary NPC adult characters in the game:http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/RPG_Game/

>
>http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/RPG_Game/Dorm_Mother_-_Green_-_Jennifer_Leland_-_Face.png
>
>http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/RPG_Game/Misc_-_Preacher_-_Father_Langdon_-_Face.png
>
>http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/RPG_Game/Misc_-_Head_Chef_-_Julian_Tremaine_-_Face.png
>
>http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/RPG_Game/Misc_-_Nurse_-_Crystal_Dunham_-_Face.png
>
>You lack the talent to produce those, among all the other character
>faces. No one could do all those in a day and still have time to stock
>the shelves at Wal-Mart. But you're welcome to prove me wrong. Post
>your preliminary sketches.


Uh, hello, MORON , reality calling MORON ! Are you there? Drew?
Reality calling Drew? Are you there, MORON !?

Tha ****...are you REALLY that gawd damn stupid? I mean...holy ****
man...how the **** DUMB do you gotta be exactly?

First of all, RETARD , most of the PARTS that I used to create
those characters I had ALREADY THE **** DEVELOPED hell two or three
of the hair styles are already IN the gawd damn sprite/face
generator you stupid dipshit. And while I'm sure it might take some
stupid amateur like you who doesn't know **** all what he's doing,
three and a half weeks just to graft some ALREADY FINISHED sprite
parts together...yeah...not so much for those of us who know what the
**** we're doing.

Duh, uh...hurr, hurr, hurr...not to mention you don't even have to do
it manually. As far as I know there are at least THREE face
generators out there (not including my own), most using hybrid parts
from the original style, some from XP and some from VX.

A stupid moron like you though obviously doesn't the **** comprehend
the art of digital manipulation/grafting/drawing. You see, dipshit,
in this day in age when you draw something, ON THE COMPUTER, amazingly
enough you don't do it on a FLAT canvas. Since it's all DIGITAL
it can be "painted" onto MULTIPLE LAYERS . So one can simply take
elements off of each layer and mix and match them and combine them
around in any sort of configuration or arrangement that they like.
Woah! That's just AMAZING for you, innt Bumbles?

That's the problem with oldbie lessers liak yourself...you work
harder...not smarter. You see all this "incredible" looking art work
and you think, "WOW, THAT'S SO AMAZING! That must have taken FOREVER
to do!" But no, that's not the way it works, Kiddo. All that
"incredible" looking art was actually produced quite simply using
rather imaginative techniques of various sorts, most of which are not
outright apparent and require quite a bit of experimentation to
discover and utilize. Once you learn the techniques used to produce
such art it's ~VERY~ easy to replicate the forms (hence the
accusations that we're turning the world of art into Wal Mart because
we can produce such incredible looking art with next to zero effort).
It's a new age, Kiddo...one in which the paintbrush and canvas have
been replaced by the tablet and screen. In this age high art is
produced quickly and with an amazing level of detail and texture...for
those that know the techniques anyway.

As an example...take the logo on my CB site, with that rainbow effect
shimmering through it. If I asked you to do that...do you think you
could? I'd be willing to bet that even if you thought you could you
would expect that it would take you days, possibly even weeks to
produce, huh? But what I told you that there were a variety of very
simplistic techniques that you could use in which you could exactly
replicate the style and form and make your own version...in less than
10 minutes. It's true, as fancy and amazing as it looks that logo
requires only TEN MINUTES to produce...now granted, yes, coming up
with those techniques in the first place took me quite a lot of time
and effort, but now that they've been discovered...well that
style/form of art can now be easily replicated en mass.

Learn the techniques:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Muses/Getty_Tutorial_-_How_To_Soft_Cell_Shade.png
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Muses/Getty_Tutorial_-_How_To_Color_Eyes.png
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Muses/Getty_Tutorial_-_How_To_Color_Hair.png

....and you can create anything you've seen. Not so with traditional
art so much, which relies greatly on human stroke precision, graphical
editing requires the development of techniques that rely on computer
precision and programming, which of course can be easily replicated...

http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Glass_Technique.png
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Scraps/Semi-Transparent_Text_Technique.png

I'll tell ya what Drew...you admit here and now that you're inferior
to my level of skill...and in return, I'll show you some neat
techniques...
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Techniques/Lightning.png

I'll show ya how to make stuff you could only DREAM of being able to
produce. LOL

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ? x ?
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."

"Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty ****ing high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. snicker ...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
 
On Nov 3, 4:37?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:37:11 -0800 (PST),
>
>
>
> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> >> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:07:59 -0700 (PDT),
> >> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:

>
> >> >On Oct 30, 5:09?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
> >> >productions.net> wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:45:20 -0700 (PDT),

>
> >> >> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >On Oct 30, 4:01?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
> >> >> >productions.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:33:04 -0700 (PDT),

>
> >> >> >What a maroon.

>
> >> >> What's the matter, Pissy? ?All done? ?LOL, run away, prove to everyone
> >> >> just what a failure you are...again. ? snicker

>
> >> >I don't have the need to prove anything to anyone. But, here's my
> >> >pumpkin for this year:http://pattersondesign.com/09pumpkin.html

>
> >> >Boo.

>
> >> >Drew

>
> >> ...you "designed" your pumpkin to look like Easter...wow...just...WOW!

>
> >NIce reach, but a mistaken one. I created a jack-o-lantern to look
> >like a rabbit.

>
> >What have you created lately?

>
> And rabbits have...what to do with Halloween? ?Oh, yes, nothing. ?But
> they have EVERYTHING to do with EASTER you bumbling idiot! ?Yeesh,
> yer such a crappy "designer" you can't even keep your holidays
> straight!
>
> As for what I've been doing, I'm currently in negotiations with The
> Cookie Jar Group for limited film production rights to the Care Bears,
> which they recently attained control over from The American Greetings
> Corporation as a part of a deal to settle a lawsuit they had with
> them. ?They also gained control over the Strawberry Shortcake
> franchise as well, although as a part of the deals The AGC can still
> profit off of the franchises for the next 10 years. ?The last e-mail I
> got from them inquired about my current CB site and said they might be
> interested in buying it or at least the design forms and they also
> might be interested in an exchange deal, the site designs for limited
> film rights.
>
> What I'm hoping to do is to take my CB fanfic:http://www.backwater-productions.net/_text/Care_Bear_Story.pdf
>


I'm sure they were impressed with your HS dropout punctuation skills.
Or lack thereof.

Luckily she was able to grab onto a nearby control panel to keep from
falling completely; but in her clumsiness she accidentally hit a bunch
of buttons, which escalated the situation from bad to worse.

That should read: "...completely, but..."

"Hey, don't talk like that Crystal. As Playfulheart OFTEN says,
accidents happen."

That should read "...says, 'Accidents happen.'"

HTH.

Drew
 
On Nov 5, 10:08?am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:

Damn, Big Boy. You've gotten mighty defensive here. I must've struck a
nerve.

Sorry about that.

Drew
 
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:51:11 -0800 (PST),
whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Nov 3, 4:37?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>productions.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:37:11 -0800 (PST),
>>
>>
>>
>> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:07:59 -0700 (PDT),
>> >> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:

>>
>> >> >On Oct 30, 5:09?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>> >> >productions.net> wrote:
>> >> >> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:45:20 -0700 (PDT),

>>
>> >> >> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> >On Oct 30, 4:01?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>> >> >> >productions.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:33:04 -0700 (PDT),

>>
>> >> >> >What a maroon.

>>
>> >> >> What's the matter, Pissy? ?All done? ?LOL, run away, prove to everyone
>> >> >> just what a failure you are...again. ? snicker

>>
>> >> >I don't have the need to prove anything to anyone. But, here's my
>> >> >pumpkin for this year:http://pattersondesign.com/09pumpkin.html

>>
>> >> >Boo.

>>
>> >> >Drew

>>
>> >> ...you "designed" your pumpkin to look like Easter...wow...just...WOW!

>>
>> >NIce reach, but a mistaken one. I created a jack-o-lantern to look
>> >like a rabbit.

>>
>> >What have you created lately?

>>
>> And rabbits have...what to do with Halloween? ?Oh, yes, nothing. ?But
>> they have EVERYTHING to do with EASTER you bumbling idiot! ?Yeesh,
>> yer such a crappy "designer" you can't even keep your holidays
>> straight!
>>
>> As for what I've been doing, I'm currently in negotiations with The
>> Cookie Jar Group for limited film production rights to the Care Bears,
>> which they recently attained control over from The American Greetings
>> Corporation as a part of a deal to settle a lawsuit they had with
>> them. ?They also gained control over the Strawberry Shortcake
>> franchise as well, although as a part of the deals The AGC can still
>> profit off of the franchises for the next 10 years. ?The last e-mail I
>> got from them inquired about my current CB site and said they might be
>> interested in buying it or at least the design forms and they also
>> might be interested in an exchange deal, the site designs for limited
>> film rights.
>>
>> What I'm hoping to do is to take my CB fanfic:http://www.backwater-productions.net/_text/Care_Bear_Story.pdf
>>

>
>I'm sure they were impressed with your HS dropout punctuation skills.
>Or lack thereof.
>
> Luckily she was able to grab onto a nearby control panel to keep from
>falling completely; but in her clumsiness she accidentally hit a bunch
>of buttons, which escalated the situation from bad to worse.
>
>That should read: "...completely, but..."
>
> "Hey, don't talk like that Crystal. As Playfulheart OFTEN says,
>accidents happen."
>
>That should read "...says, 'Accidents happen.'"
>
>HTH.
>
>Drew


That's not the version I sent them, Dumbass. That's the UN-edited
version you moron.

And considering your own horrible grasp of language mechanics you
probably shouldn't be going around throwing stones in your little
glass house, moron.


--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ? x ?
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."

"Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty ****ing high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. snicker ...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
 
On Nov 5, 12:32?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:

> That's not the version I sent them, Dumbass. ?That's the UN-edited
> version you moron.


Sorry. No. That's the version you showed us which you stated that it
was edited by your professional copywriter. Remember? Still haven't
fixed those issues, I see. Well good luck with that design book
authorship you've got in the works.

Boo.

Drew
 
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:47:26 -0800 (PST),
whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Nov 5, 12:32?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>productions.net> wrote:
>
>> That's not the version I sent them, Dumbass. ?That's the UN-edited
>> version you moron.

>
>Sorry. No. That's the version you showed us which you stated that it
>was edited by your professional copywriter. Remember? Still haven't
>fixed those issues, I see. Well good luck with that design book
>authorship you've got in the works.
>
>Boo.


And amazingly enough, moron, the version you saw, moron, which wasn't
that one BTW, moron, it was the one in the doc file, moron, wasn't the
copy edited version either, moron! LOL

Actually, I guess that's only ~half~ true. The original one that you
saw was PARTIALLY copy edited, although not by my copy editor. No
one has actually seen the fully copy edited version other than me, my
copy editor, my God daughter, various family members and very close
friends and The Cookie Jar Group. Mostly because I was advised not to
if I plan to actually publish the thing. The REAL version actually
has about 20 more pages of text to it and another whole chapter. In
total the book will have 36 chapters and will be broken up into three
primary story arcs.

Oh, and I also have a variety of illustrations and art that were done
for it as well, which, again, no one has really seen other than those
mentioned before.

I suppose I could share one:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/CB_Sketch.jpg

That's one of the proposed designs, a more anthromorphic version of
the bears.

I'm really, really, REALLY hoping I might be able to get Astolpho to
work with me on the project should I attain movie rights...he's even
more arrogant than I am though (and rightly so), so I'm not sure if I
can persuade him into it or not.

He's been too busy exploiting the **** out of the babyfur community:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Astolpho/

I believe he's charging them upwards of like $50 a
drawing...yeesh...even his prints are expensive! He also sells
various sorts of kitschy Zazzle crap with his art on 'em. Like
T-shirts for $20 for example:
http://www.zazzle.com/astolpho+gifts

Anry would also be nice, but I'm not sure if she speaks English. I
haven't yet asked Capsicum either, although his style is more super
deformed / chibi so I'm not sure if it would translate well.

There's quite a few other really great artists too I wanna try to get
involved, only downside is that those on, near, or above my level all
tend to be rather...uh...arrogant, rightly so, but still, it can be
hard to work with some of those types, especially on a collaborative
project.


--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ? x ?
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."

"Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty ****ing high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. snicker ...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
 
On Nov 5, 5:15?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:47:26 -0800 (PST),
>
> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >On Nov 5, 12:32?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
> >productions.net> wrote:

>
> >> That's not the version I sent them, Dumbass. ?That's the UN-edited
> >> version you moron.

>
> >Sorry. No. That's the version you showed us which you stated that it
> >was edited by your professional copywriter. Remember? Still haven't
> >fixed those issues, I see. Well good luck with that design book
> >authorship you've got in the works.

>
> >Boo.

>
> And amazingly enough, moron, the version you saw, moron, which wasn't
> that one BTW, moron, it was the one in the doc file, moron, wasn't the
> copy edited version either, moron! ?LOL
>
> Actually, I guess that's only ~half~ true. ?The original one that you
> saw was PARTIALLY copy edited, although not by my copy editor. ?No
> one has actually seen the fully copy edited version other than me, my
> copy editor, my God daughter, various family members and very close
> friends and The Cookie Jar Group. ?Mostly because I was advised not to
> if I plan to actually publish the thing. ?The REAL version actually
> has about 20 more pages of text to it and another whole chapter. ?In
> total the book will have 36 chapters and will be broken up into three
> primary story arcs.
>
> Oh, and I also have a variety of illustrations and art that were done
> for it as well, which, again, no one has really seen other than those
> mentioned before.
>
> I suppose I could share one:http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/CB_Sketch.jpg
>
> That's one of the proposed designs, a more anthromorphic version of
> the bears.
>
> I'm really, really, REALLY hoping I might be able to get Astolpho to
> work with me


Yep. I'm hoping Saul Bass will rise from the dead and complete this
movie sequence I've got in the pipeline.

Or. Or maybe, I can get Brad Holland to illustrate my book for me.
Yes, he's arrogant, but I can deal with him.

Or even better. I can get William Dunlap http://williamdunlap.com to
fill my house with original art. No. Wait a minute. I've done that.
Nevermind.

Keep those hopes alive, Big'un.

Now get back out there and stay vigilant with those adult baby
stalkers you got clamoring for your attention. Lord knows the world
needs your keen insight.

Boo.

Drew
 
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:14:17 -0800 (PST),
whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Nov 5, 5:15?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>productions.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:47:26 -0800 (PST),
>>
>> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >On Nov 5, 12:32?pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>> >productions.net> wrote:

>>
>> >> That's not the version I sent them, Dumbass. ?That's the UN-edited
>> >> version you moron.

>>
>> >Sorry. No. That's the version you showed us which you stated that it
>> >was edited by your professional copywriter. Remember? Still haven't
>> >fixed those issues, I see. Well good luck with that design book
>> >authorship you've got in the works.

>>
>> >Boo.

>>
>> And amazingly enough, moron, the version you saw, moron, which wasn't
>> that one BTW, moron, it was the one in the doc file, moron, wasn't the
>> copy edited version either, moron! ?LOL
>>
>> Actually, I guess that's only ~half~ true. ?The original one that you
>> saw was PARTIALLY copy edited, although not by my copy editor. ?No
>> one has actually seen the fully copy edited version other than me, my
>> copy editor, my God daughter, various family members and very close
>> friends and The Cookie Jar Group. ?Mostly because I was advised not to
>> if I plan to actually publish the thing. ?The REAL version actually
>> has about 20 more pages of text to it and another whole chapter. ?In
>> total the book will have 36 chapters and will be broken up into three
>> primary story arcs.
>>
>> Oh, and I also have a variety of illustrations and art that were done
>> for it as well, which, again, no one has really seen other than those
>> mentioned before.
>>
>> I suppose I could share one:http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/CB_Sketch.jpg
>>
>> That's one of the proposed designs, a more anthromorphic version of
>> the bears.
>>
>> I'm really, really, REALLY hoping I might be able to get Astolpho to
>> work with me

>
>Yep. I'm hoping Saul Bass will rise from the dead and complete this
>movie sequence I've got in the pipeline.
>
>Or. Or maybe, I can get Brad Holland to illustrate my book for me.
>Yes, he's arrogant, but I can deal with him.
>
>Or even better. I can get William Dunlap http://williamdunlap.com to
>fill my house with original art. No. Wait a minute. I've done that.
>Nevermind.
>
>Keep those hopes alive, Big'un.
>
>Now get back out there and stay vigilant with those adult baby
>stalkers you got clamoring for your attention. Lord knows the world
>needs your keen insight.
>
>Boo.
>
>Drew


William Dunlap?!

snicker

Oh man...now THAT is funny. Some ****in oldbie paint shitter hosing
out the most pedestrian level of still life's and boring
scenery...wow, just... WOW ...boy you sure do know good art, Drewster.

PS - I'm being SARCASTIC , just in case you were too slow to tell.

Do be sure and let me know when one of your favorite oldbie paint
shitters manages to produce something this good:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Epic_Art/

Then maybe I'll be able to stop thinking of you as such a "never was"
slash "never will be" oldbie who is nothing more than a sad joke to
the world of art...the REAL world of art, not that antediluvian
paint shitting crowd you go around sniffing farts off of. LOL, get
the **** outta here, go find yerself a nice old folks home to talk
about your favorite has been artists, grandpa.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ? x ?
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."

"Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty ****ing high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. snicker ...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
 
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