Guest Ted Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 On Aug 30, 6:26 am, raglan...@gmail.com wrote: > SWC > > Members of the controversial new extreme-right "Magyar Garda" or > Hungarian guard march before their swearing-in ceremony in Budapest, > Hungary Saturday, Aug 25, 2007. Magyar Garda members wear black > uniforms bearing a variation on the red-and-white Arpad Stripes > associated with Hungary's Nazi-aligned Arrow Cross party in power > during WWII. The creation of the guard by extreme-right party Jobbik > had raised fears among the Jewish community both in Hungary and > internationally. Prior to the establishment of the Magyar Garda, > Hungarian Jews had been warning that anti-Semitism was on the rise. > > Blackened > > Landser > > German hate band's Nazi videos still available on YouTube > Deutsche Presse-Agentur (dpa) - August 29, 2007 > > Berlin (dpa) - The German hate-rock band Landser has been outlawed > since March 2005, its members sentenced in court and their song lyrics > banned. But it's still possible to see and hear them on the internet > site YouTube. > > By keying in the word Landser, a web surfer will find 472 films of the > extreme right-wing group, most of them music videos that often > containing photos of Adolf Hitler, swastikas and other Nazi regalia. > > Words such as "We're Proud to Wear the Swastika" or "Our Idols are the > Waffen-SS" - the Nazis' elite fighting force - are harmless when > compared to other lyrics that are anti-Semitic, racist and glorify > war. > > Videos by Landser - the name means "foot soldier" in German - are just > a small collection of extreme right-wing propaganda available on the > world wide web. > > Some of the material contains links to other internet pages such as > the those of Blood and Honour, a racist organization that its banned > in Germany. > > Until recently the anti-Semitic Nazi World War II film, Jud Suess, was > available on YouTube, a subsidiary of the US search engine Google, > which is enormously popular with young people in Germany. > > Experts know this and German law has made provisions to counter the > threat. The tele-media law states that internet providers have to > remove pages with racially inflammatory or unconstitutional propaganda > as soon as they are made aware of them. > > This is the theory. But things are different in practice. For this > reason, the Central Council of Jews in Germany is considering filing a > criminal complaint against the US concern. > > One of those who looks into internet trends posing a danger to young > people is Thomas Guenter, a lawyer with the state-run jugendschutz.net > (youth protection net). > > Guenter says he has often alerted YouTube to extremist right-wing > videos on their website. "When we last checked, the provider had > removed only about one-third of the videos we criticized," he said. > > Asked if that was in response to his complaint, Guenter replied: "I > don't know. We don't get any feedback from YouTube." > > Another problem is that sites which are outlawed in Germany often > reappear a short time later on foreign servers. This makes it > difficult for German legal authorities, whose power to stop such > propaganda ends at the German border. > > Police have to rely on the help of their colleagues abroad when > investigating the activities of suspect foreign internet servers. They > also lack the resources to conduct a thorough search of the millions > of pages on the web. > > Guenter says providers should be required to ensure that once a film > has been taken down from a website it should not appear again. Google > says it is working on a filter programme towards this goal. > > Up till now, the market leader has relied on a voluntary control by > users, who can alert the operator to material promoting pornography, > racial hatred or war by clicking the English icon "Flag as > Inappropriate." > > At present there is no German equivalent. "YouTube is an American > company, but we are cooperating with the German authorities," says Kay > Oberbeck, Google's spokesman for Germany. > > When necessary, the company will provide the IP address of a customer > if the police request such information, he added. > > But this is might not be enough, as user "AlJoKo21" pointed out a in a > discussion forum when he said: "YouTube does not pay enough attention > to rightist propaganda material." > > Oberbeck had said Tuesday that his company would take action and > delete all the Landser clips. They could still be viewed on Wednesday. > > Copyright 2007 dpa Deutsche Presse-Agentur GmbH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dirk Bruere at NeoPax Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 Ted wrote: > On Aug 30, 6:26 am, raglan...@gmail.com wrote: >> SWC >> >> Members of the controversial new extreme-right "Magyar Garda" or >> Hungarian guard march before their swearing-in ceremony in Budapest, >> Hungary Saturday, Aug 25, 2007. Magyar Garda members wear black >> uniforms bearing a variation on the red-and-white Arpad Stripes >> associated with Hungary's Nazi-aligned Arrow Cross party in power >> during WWII. The creation of the guard by extreme-right party Jobbik >> had raised fears among the Jewish community both in Hungary and >> internationally. Prior to the establishment of the Magyar Garda, >> Hungarian Jews had been warning that anti-Semitism was on the rise. >> >> Blackened >> >> Landser >> >> German hate band's Nazi videos still available on YouTube >> Deutsche Presse-Agentur (dpa) - August 29, 2007 >> >> Berlin (dpa) - The German hate-rock band Landser has been outlawed >> since March 2005, its members sentenced in court and their song lyrics >> banned. But it's still possible to see and hear them on the internet >> site YouTube. >> >> By keying in the word Landser, a web surfer will find 472 films of the >> extreme right-wing group, most of them music videos that often >> containing photos of Adolf Hitler, swastikas and other Nazi regalia. >> >> Words such as "We're Proud to Wear the Swastika" or "Our Idols are the >> Waffen-SS" - the Nazis' elite fighting force - are harmless when >> compared to other lyrics that are anti-Semitic, racist and glorify >> war. >> >> Videos by Landser - the name means "foot soldier" in German - are just >> a small collection of extreme right-wing propaganda available on the >> world wide web. >> >> Some of the material contains links to other internet pages such as >> the those of Blood and Honour, a racist organization that its banned >> in Germany. >> >> Until recently the anti-Semitic Nazi World War II film, Jud Suess, was >> available on YouTube, a subsidiary of the US search engine Google, >> which is enormously popular with young people in Germany. >> >> Experts know this and German law has made provisions to counter the >> threat. The tele-media law states that internet providers have to >> remove pages with racially inflammatory or unconstitutional propaganda >> as soon as they are made aware of them. >> >> This is the theory. But things are different in practice. For this >> reason, the Central Council of Jews in Germany is considering filing a >> criminal complaint against the US concern. >> >> One of those who looks into internet trends posing a danger to young >> people is Thomas Guenter, a lawyer with the state-run jugendschutz.net >> (youth protection net). >> >> Guenter says he has often alerted YouTube to extremist right-wing >> videos on their website. "When we last checked, the provider had >> removed only about one-third of the videos we criticized," he said. >> >> Asked if that was in response to his complaint, Guenter replied: "I >> don't know. We don't get any feedback from YouTube." >> >> Another problem is that sites which are outlawed in Germany often >> reappear a short time later on foreign servers. This makes it >> difficult for German legal authorities, whose power to stop such >> propaganda ends at the German border. >> >> Police have to rely on the help of their colleagues abroad when >> investigating the activities of suspect foreign internet servers. They >> also lack the resources to conduct a thorough search of the millions >> of pages on the web. >> >> Guenter says providers should be required to ensure that once a film >> has been taken down from a website it should not appear again. Google >> says it is working on a filter programme towards this goal. >> >> Up till now, the market leader has relied on a voluntary control by >> users, who can alert the operator to material promoting pornography, >> racial hatred or war by clicking the English icon "Flag as >> Inappropriate." >> >> At present there is no German equivalent. "YouTube is an American >> company, but we are cooperating with the German authorities," says Kay >> Oberbeck, Google's spokesman for Germany. >> >> When necessary, the company will provide the IP address of a customer >> if the police request such information, he added. >> >> But this is might not be enough, as user "AlJoKo21" pointed out a in a >> discussion forum when he said: "YouTube does not pay enough attention >> to rightist propaganda material." >> >> Oberbeck had said Tuesday that his company would take action and >> delete all the Landser clips. They could still be viewed on Wednesday. >> >> Copyright 2007 dpa Deutsche Presse-Agentur GmbH > > They'll be playing Rammstein next... -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK Remote Viewing classes in London Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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