Guest AnAmericanCitizen Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:41:24 -0700, "Iconoclast" <Iconoclast@ecoweb.co.zw> wrote: > >"Lets Roll" <letsroll@meet-me-in-hell.com> wrote in message >news:OEwcj.1118$6%.206@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com... >> You just have to wonder why this woman is not sitting her ass in jail >> along side her husband. Some people are only alive because it's illegal >> to kill them. Hopefully we will get some divine intervention in her case >> very soon, and the hubby will take his spawn with him when he is deported, >> seeing as how he's such a deeply concerned papasito and all. >> >> http://www.sunjournal.com/story/244573-3/RiverValley/An_ailing_woman_and_family_try_to_survive_with_husband_in_jail/ >> RUMFORD - Vickie Gonzalez-Leal and her three young children want a >> Christmas miracle tomorrow, or, better yet, early next year. >> >> Homeless, broke, and living in a shelter, the 29-year-old Rumford woman >> who is dying of cancer and Crohn's disease just wants her husband back, >> for her sake and that of their kids. > >Awwwwww. > >> >> Her husband of three years, Roberto Gonzalez-Leal, 32, a Mexican national, >> is sitting in Cumberland County Jail in Portland. He's been there since >> being arrested Nov. 26 by a U.S. Immigration Customs and Enforcement agent >> on a charge of re-entering the country after having been deported on Feb. >> 9, in El Paso, Texas, as an illegal alien. >> >> The investigation leading to the arrest began after an anonymous tipster >> contacted Rumford police, officials said. > >"A tipster?" It seems so evil, the way the newspaper tells it. The good >illegal alien who returns after being deported, spitting on our laws and >courts. The evil tipster who calls police. > >> >> At his Dec. 6 arraignment, Gonzalez-Leal pleaded not guilty and had a >> lawyer appointed for him. Thanks to fellow parishioners at Praise Assembly >> of God, the couple's church in Rumford, his wife hired an immigration >> lawyer. But that money is running out. >> >> At Gonzalez-Leal's trial, scheduled for Feb. 4, 2008, in U.S. District >> Court in Portland, Judge George Z. Singal will decide his fate - and, by >> extension, that of his family. >> >> If convicted of the Class C felony, he faces a maximum sentence of 20 >> years in prison and a $250,000 fine, followed by no more than three years >> of supervised release. >> >> "I was told Maine is a sanctuary state, (but) this state would rather >> destroy a family than try to help it," Vickie Gonzalez-Leal said on Friday >> afternoon while visiting her mom, Linda Ruffin, also of Rumford. >> > >The evil state vs the noble repeat illegal entrant. Radio Havana couldn't >have produced a better anti-American propaganda piece. > >> Roberto Gonzalez-Leal, a roofer and carpenter from Guamuchil, Sinaloa, >> Mexico, entered the United States 12 years ago. After being deported in >> February, he re-entered in March to care and provide for his family, then >> living in Louisville, Ky., his wife said. >> >> "We've never been homeless or on assistance from the government. We lived >> paycheck to paycheck. He works an honest-paying job, he's involved in the >> church, and he's gotten saved, and they just don't want to consider that. >> >> "He said he'd live here on house arrest, on probation, or even with an >> electronic bracelet on his leg so they'd know where he is. He just wants >> to be a father for his children. My husband's a good man," Vickie >> Gonzalez-Leal said. >> >> Since Roberto was taken, she and the children - Lorenzo Diaz, 8, Justice >> Diaz, 6, > >So they aren't even his kids. Or they were conceived out of wedlock. So >much for Bush's "family values" not stopping at the Rio Grande. > >>and Amalia Gonzalez-Leal, 2 - have been devastated. The children, who were >>born in Kentucky, have told their mom they don't want to be Mexican if it >>means they have to leave like dad, Vickie Gonzalez-Leal said. >> > >The old "Mexico is Hell" line that illegals and their cheerleaders use in >sob-story articles like these. Why do Hispanics always portray countries >where they are the majority as shit holes? > >> Amalia suffers from depression and separation anxiety. Justice is having >> crying spells in school, his mother said. > >This story must have been written by the Mexican consulate and submitted to >the Sun Journal for maximum tears. > >> >> But it's been hardest on Lorenzo, who has known Roberto as his father >> since he was 18 months old. > >Know him "as his father?" In other words, he's not the biological father. >Bush's family values. > >>He was born four months' premature and since birth, he's suffered from >>seizures, breathing problems, and attention deficit disorder, his mom said. >> >> He wakes two to three times a night crying out for Roberto and can't write >> a letter to him without tears falling, she said. >> > >A Hollywood script writer couldn't write a less convincing line than that. >Get out a rag to wipe away the tears from your eyes, people. The children >killed by the BATF at Waco didn't get this kind of sob-story from the >mainstream media. Randy Weaver's wife and son didn't warrant this kind of >sympathy. > >> Vickie Gonzalez-Leal said she met Roberto in 2002. They wed two years >> later. >> >> "He has a flawed past, but it's not his past that I fell in love with. >> It's not his past that raised three kids. They need to look at how he >> changed his life for the better. He got his life together and now he's a >> family man, and it doesn't matter to them. >> >> "When do people have to have pedigrees to live in this country? His >> country has never blown us up or destroyed our trade centers, and yet they >> want to throw him out. > >This is the argument used by the invaders ever since 9-11, to wit, that >since Mexico didn't actually fly planes into American buildings, then we >should accept millions of Mexicans fleeing their Hispanic hell. This >argument is used to counter the well-founded argument that after 9-11, the >U.S. needs to control illegal immigration and deport illegals to protect the >Homeland. Mexico should not decide who lives illegally in the U.S. and what >we can or cannot do to provide Homeland security. To bad the media >champions anarchists, lawbreakers, and invaders. > >> He's been working his (butt) off 18 hours a day, doing jobs Americans >> don't want to do," Vicki Gonzalez-Leal said. > >Americans will work as carpenters and roofers. He took jobs that Americans >would be doing if the invaders hadn't taken them and lowered wages so, as >Roberto says, they work from paycheck to paycheck. Besides, with the rise >in foreclosures and the collapsing market for new homes, we don't need >Roberto. > >> >> They moved to Rumford in October to be closer to her mother, Linda Ruffin, >> whose health is failing. Ruffin wanted to see her grandchildren and Vickie >> before cancer or Crohn's takes her daughter's life. >> > >Get out the violins and a rag to wipe away your tears, sports fans. > >> Crohn's is a type of inflammatory bowel disease. It is a condition in >> which the lining of the digestive tract becomes inflamed, causing severe >> diarrhea and abdominal pain. >> > >Red Herring and strawman crap. This is irrelevent to the fact that Roberto >knowingly broke our laws and risked prison when violating the terms of his >deportation. He got caught and should go back to Mexico like a man or face >the consequences of his illegal entrance back into the U.S. > >> Gonzalez-Leal, who has both colon and cervical cancer, said she's had 32 >> surgeries. More than 5 feet of her intestines have been removed. She has >> been plagued by hernias and gets chemotherapy twice a month. >> > >Which has nothing to do with Roberto. Bush and Alberto Gonzales signed >death warrants for hundreds of Texans that sent them to the electric >chair -- even a woman who had accepted Jesus as her savior. Why should >Mexicans get better treatment than Texans? Why didn't we read these kind of >worries and considerations before Janet Reno deported Alian Gonzales or >burned down the Branch Davidian church in Texas? > >> On Jan. 8, she's scheduled for surgery to remove 23 pounds of hernias from >> the scar from the Crohn's surgeries. And, in February, more intestines, >> her colon, and possibly her stomach lining must be removed, she said. >> > >This newspaper is worse than the National Enquirer. > >> However, she's considering skipping chemo and the surgeries, because they >> make her sick and unable to care for her children, she said. >> > >What about the wonderful medical care she would get in Mexico for free? > >> "Roberto has always been the crutch. When I'm sick or hospitalized, he >> handled the kids. Most men cannot deal with a woman who is falling apart, >> but he did it all. He's my missing puzzle piece," Vickie Gonzalez-Leal >> said. >> >> "Roberto never shirked work," Ruffin said. "He never asked for the U.S. >> government to help to care or provide for his family." >> >> But after he was deported, his wife had to sign up for food stamps, >> medical care, and Section 8 housing. > >The evil state forced her to become the White Man's Burden? > >> >> "I think the system is warped, I really do. Why will the government be >> willing to support this woman and her three children for however long >> Roberto is in prison and support him in prison, when all this man has done >> is try to keep his family together?" Ruffin asked. > >Oh, puke! The Evil Empire and the Running Dog Capitalists vs the Glorious >Workers. How much more pathetic can Hispano-Fascist "journalism" get? > >> >> > >I seem to recall Ernesto or David Eduardo saying that Mexico has better >health care than the U.S. -- complete cradle to grave socialized medicine >and a whole bunch of billionairs and stuff. Why don't they self-deport >there? After watching the movie "Sicko," it is apparent that many >Americans have been allowed to die by HMOs to protect their "bottom line," >so why should the media which has either ignored or demonized Roger Moore's >movie, create this sob story surrounding the "plight" of an invader? Does >Fidel Castro write this crap? > Thanks for taking the time to answer her charges in depth, Icon. You're right on....AAC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iconoclast Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:i9hen3dnrpc0ink7ea943oagi9ud0o1l6n@4ax.com... > On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:41:24 -0700, "Iconoclast" <Iconoclast@ecoweb.co.zw> > wrote: > >> >>"Lets Roll" <letsroll@meet-me-in-hell.com> wrote in message >>news:OEwcj.1118$6%.206@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com... >>> You just have to wonder why this woman is not sitting her ass in jail >>> along side her husband. Some people are only alive because it's illegal >>> to kill them. Hopefully we will get some divine intervention in her >>> case >>> very soon, and the hubby will take his spawn with him when he is >>> deported, >>> seeing as how he's such a deeply concerned papasito and all. >>> >>> http://www.sunjournal.com/story/244573-3/RiverValley/An_ailing_woman_and_family_try_to_survive_with_husband_in_jail/ >>> RUMFORD - Vickie Gonzalez-Leal and her three young children want a >>> Christmas miracle tomorrow, or, better yet, early next year. >>> >>> Homeless, broke, and living in a shelter, the 29-year-old Rumford woman >>> who is dying of cancer and Crohn's disease just wants her husband back, >>> for her sake and that of their kids. >> >>Awwwwww. >> >>> >>> Her husband of three years, Roberto Gonzalez-Leal, 32, a Mexican >>> national, >>> is sitting in Cumberland County Jail in Portland. He's been there since >>> being arrested Nov. 26 by a U.S. Immigration Customs and Enforcement >>> agent >>> on a charge of re-entering the country after having been deported on >>> Feb. >>> 9, in El Paso, Texas, as an illegal alien. >>> >>> The investigation leading to the arrest began after an anonymous tipster >>> contacted Rumford police, officials said. >> >>"A tipster?" It seems so evil, the way the newspaper tells it. The good >>illegal alien who returns after being deported, spitting on our laws and >>courts. The evil tipster who calls police. >> >>> >>> At his Dec. 6 arraignment, Gonzalez-Leal pleaded not guilty and had a >>> lawyer appointed for him. Thanks to fellow parishioners at Praise >>> Assembly >>> of God, the couple's church in Rumford, his wife hired an immigration >>> lawyer. But that money is running out. >>> >>> At Gonzalez-Leal's trial, scheduled for Feb. 4, 2008, in U.S. District >>> Court in Portland, Judge George Z. Singal will decide his fate - and, by >>> extension, that of his family. >>> >>> If convicted of the Class C felony, he faces a maximum sentence of 20 >>> years in prison and a $250,000 fine, followed by no more than three >>> years >>> of supervised release. >>> >>> "I was told Maine is a sanctuary state, (but) this state would rather >>> destroy a family than try to help it," Vickie Gonzalez-Leal said on >>> Friday >>> afternoon while visiting her mom, Linda Ruffin, also of Rumford. >>> >> >>The evil state vs the noble repeat illegal entrant. Radio Havana couldn't >>have produced a better anti-American propaganda piece. >> >>> Roberto Gonzalez-Leal, a roofer and carpenter from Guamuchil, Sinaloa, >>> Mexico, entered the United States 12 years ago. After being deported in >>> February, he re-entered in March to care and provide for his family, >>> then >>> living in Louisville, Ky., his wife said. >>> >>> "We've never been homeless or on assistance from the government. We >>> lived >>> paycheck to paycheck. He works an honest-paying job, he's involved in >>> the >>> church, and he's gotten saved, and they just don't want to consider >>> that. >>> >>> "He said he'd live here on house arrest, on probation, or even with an >>> electronic bracelet on his leg so they'd know where he is. He just wants >>> to be a father for his children. My husband's a good man," Vickie >>> Gonzalez-Leal said. >>> >>> Since Roberto was taken, she and the children - Lorenzo Diaz, 8, Justice >>> Diaz, 6, >> >>So they aren't even his kids. Or they were conceived out of wedlock. So >>much for Bush's "family values" not stopping at the Rio Grande. >> >>>and Amalia Gonzalez-Leal, 2 - have been devastated. The children, who >>>were >>>born in Kentucky, have told their mom they don't want to be Mexican if it >>>means they have to leave like dad, Vickie Gonzalez-Leal said. >>> >> >>The old "Mexico is Hell" line that illegals and their cheerleaders use in >>sob-story articles like these. Why do Hispanics always portray countries >>where they are the majority as shit holes? >> >>> Amalia suffers from depression and separation anxiety. Justice is having >>> crying spells in school, his mother said. >> >>This story must have been written by the Mexican consulate and submitted >>to >>the Sun Journal for maximum tears. >> >>> >>> But it's been hardest on Lorenzo, who has known Roberto as his father >>> since he was 18 months old. >> >>Know him "as his father?" In other words, he's not the biological father. >>Bush's family values. >> >>>He was born four months' premature and since birth, he's suffered from >>>seizures, breathing problems, and attention deficit disorder, his mom >>>said. >>> >>> He wakes two to three times a night crying out for Roberto and can't >>> write >>> a letter to him without tears falling, she said. >>> >> >>A Hollywood script writer couldn't write a less convincing line than that. >>Get out a rag to wipe away the tears from your eyes, people. The children >>killed by the BATF at Waco didn't get this kind of sob-story from the >>mainstream media. Randy Weaver's wife and son didn't warrant this kind >>of >>sympathy. >> >>> Vickie Gonzalez-Leal said she met Roberto in 2002. They wed two years >>> later. >>> >>> "He has a flawed past, but it's not his past that I fell in love with. >>> It's not his past that raised three kids. They need to look at how he >>> changed his life for the better. He got his life together and now he's a >>> family man, and it doesn't matter to them. >>> >>> "When do people have to have pedigrees to live in this country? His >>> country has never blown us up or destroyed our trade centers, and yet >>> they >>> want to throw him out. >> >>This is the argument used by the invaders ever since 9-11, to wit, that >>since Mexico didn't actually fly planes into American buildings, then we >>should accept millions of Mexicans fleeing their Hispanic hell. This >>argument is used to counter the well-founded argument that after 9-11, the >>U.S. needs to control illegal immigration and deport illegals to protect >>the >>Homeland. Mexico should not decide who lives illegally in the U.S. and >>what >>we can or cannot do to provide Homeland security. To bad the media >>champions anarchists, lawbreakers, and invaders. >> >>> He's been working his (butt) off 18 hours a day, doing jobs Americans >>> don't want to do," Vicki Gonzalez-Leal said. >> >>Americans will work as carpenters and roofers. He took jobs that >>Americans >>would be doing if the invaders hadn't taken them and lowered wages so, as >>Roberto says, they work from paycheck to paycheck. Besides, with the rise >>in foreclosures and the collapsing market for new homes, we don't need >>Roberto. >> >>> >>> They moved to Rumford in October to be closer to her mother, Linda >>> Ruffin, >>> whose health is failing. Ruffin wanted to see her grandchildren and >>> Vickie >>> before cancer or Crohn's takes her daughter's life. >>> >> >>Get out the violins and a rag to wipe away your tears, sports fans. >> >>> Crohn's is a type of inflammatory bowel disease. It is a condition in >>> which the lining of the digestive tract becomes inflamed, causing severe >>> diarrhea and abdominal pain. >>> >> >>Red Herring and strawman crap. This is irrelevent to the fact that >>Roberto >>knowingly broke our laws and risked prison when violating the terms of his >>deportation. He got caught and should go back to Mexico like a man or >>face >>the consequences of his illegal entrance back into the U.S. >> >>> Gonzalez-Leal, who has both colon and cervical cancer, said she's had 32 >>> surgeries. More than 5 feet of her intestines have been removed. She has >>> been plagued by hernias and gets chemotherapy twice a month. >>> >> >>Which has nothing to do with Roberto. Bush and Alberto Gonzales signed >>death warrants for hundreds of Texans that sent them to the electric >>chair -- even a woman who had accepted Jesus as her savior. Why should >>Mexicans get better treatment than Texans? Why didn't we read these kind >>of >>worries and considerations before Janet Reno deported Alian Gonzales or >>burned down the Branch Davidian church in Texas? >> >>> On Jan. 8, she's scheduled for surgery to remove 23 pounds of hernias >>> from >>> the scar from the Crohn's surgeries. And, in February, more intestines, >>> her colon, and possibly her stomach lining must be removed, she said. >>> >> >>This newspaper is worse than the National Enquirer. >> >>> However, she's considering skipping chemo and the surgeries, because >>> they >>> make her sick and unable to care for her children, she said. >>> >> >>What about the wonderful medical care she would get in Mexico for free? >> >>> "Roberto has always been the crutch. When I'm sick or hospitalized, he >>> handled the kids. Most men cannot deal with a woman who is falling >>> apart, >>> but he did it all. He's my missing puzzle piece," Vickie Gonzalez-Leal >>> said. >>> >>> "Roberto never shirked work," Ruffin said. "He never asked for the U.S. >>> government to help to care or provide for his family." >>> >>> But after he was deported, his wife had to sign up for food stamps, >>> medical care, and Section 8 housing. >> >>The evil state forced her to become the White Man's Burden? >> >>> >>> "I think the system is warped, I really do. Why will the government be >>> willing to support this woman and her three children for however long >>> Roberto is in prison and support him in prison, when all this man has >>> done >>> is try to keep his family together?" Ruffin asked. >> >>Oh, puke! The Evil Empire and the Running Dog Capitalists vs the Glorious >>Workers. How much more pathetic can Hispano-Fascist "journalism" get? >> >>> >>> >> >>I seem to recall Ernesto or David Eduardo saying that Mexico has better >>health care than the U.S. -- complete cradle to grave socialized medicine >>and a whole bunch of billionairs and stuff. Why don't they self-deport >>there? After watching the movie "Sicko," it is apparent that many >>Americans have been allowed to die by HMOs to protect their "bottom line," >>so why should the media which has either ignored or demonized Roger >>Moore's >>movie, create this sob story surrounding the "plight" of an invader? Does >>Fidel Castro write this crap? >> > Thanks for taking the time to answer her charges in depth, Icon. You're > right > on....AAC Thank you, sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest proudamerican Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:i9hen3dnrpc0ink7ea943oagi9ud0o1l6n@4ax.com... > On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:41:24 -0700, "Iconoclast" <Iconoclast@ecoweb.co.zw> wrote: > HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cry illegal cry ! Poor loser mexicans. " I broke the law and do not want to pay the price. I knew the price but thought I could get away with it and not have to pay for my criminal activity. Now I need you to feel sorry for me. A mexican should not have to abide by American laws. " Since these are obviously not his kids, he is just another liar like most of them. Doing the roofing job that Americans will not do or do not want ? What the fuck kind of dumb shit is that? Americans have been roofing since the country was founded. Roofing used to be a good paying job. Now it's a low pay job because all these stupid illegals let them selves get taken advantage of. ( the price one pays for being a fugitive). What is this shit about supervised release ? When this scum invader gets out of prison he needs to be immediately deported. Where in the fuck does parole fit into this equation ? Why let this guy live in the country for another 3 years when he is getting deported anyway. That is Americas opinion and we are sticking to it Fuck all you illegals and your supporters if you do not like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim E Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 "Iconoclast" <Iconoclast@ecoweb.co.zw> wrote in message news:xPedndg6j7eieuranZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com... > > "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:i9hen3dnrpc0ink7ea943oagi9ud0o1l6n@4ax.com... >> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:41:24 -0700, "Iconoclast" >> <Iconoclast@ecoweb.co.zw> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Lets Roll" <letsroll@meet-me-in-hell.com> wrote in message >>>news:OEwcj.1118$6%.206@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com... >>>> You just have to wonder why this woman is not sitting her ass in jail >>>> along side her husband. Some people are only alive because it's >>>> illegal >>>> to kill them. Hopefully we will get some divine intervention in her >>>> case >>>> very soon, and the hubby will take his spawn with him when he is >>>> deported, >>>> seeing as how he's such a deeply concerned papasito and all. >>>> >>>> http://www.sunjournal.com/story/244573-3/RiverValley/An_ailing_woman_and_family_try_to_survive_with_husband_in_jail/ >>>> RUMFORD - Vickie Gonzalez-Leal and her three young children want a >>>> Christmas miracle tomorrow, or, better yet, early next year. >>>> >>>> Homeless, broke, and living in a shelter, the 29-year-old Rumford woman >>>> who is dying of cancer and Crohn's disease just wants her husband back, >>>> for her sake and that of their kids. >>> >>>Awwwwww. >>> >>>> >>>> Her husband of three years, Roberto Gonzalez-Leal, 32, a Mexican >>>> national, >>>> is sitting in Cumberland County Jail in Portland. He's been there since >>>> being arrested Nov. 26 by a U.S. Immigration Customs and Enforcement >>>> agent >>>> on a charge of re-entering the country after having been deported on >>>> Feb. >>>> 9, in El Paso, Texas, as an illegal alien. >>>> >>>> The investigation leading to the arrest began after an anonymous >>>> tipster >>>> contacted Rumford police, officials said. >>> >>>"A tipster?" It seems so evil, the way the newspaper tells it. The good >>>illegal alien who returns after being deported, spitting on our laws and >>>courts. The evil tipster who calls police. >>> >>>> >>>> At his Dec. 6 arraignment, Gonzalez-Leal pleaded not guilty and had a >>>> lawyer appointed for him. Thanks to fellow parishioners at Praise >>>> Assembly >>>> of God, the couple's church in Rumford, his wife hired an immigration >>>> lawyer. But that money is running out. >>>> >>>> At Gonzalez-Leal's trial, scheduled for Feb. 4, 2008, in U.S. District >>>> Court in Portland, Judge George Z. Singal will decide his fate - and, >>>> by >>>> extension, that of his family. >>>> >>>> If convicted of the Class C felony, he faces a maximum sentence of 20 >>>> years in prison and a $250,000 fine, followed by no more than three >>>> years >>>> of supervised release. >>>> >>>> "I was told Maine is a sanctuary state, (but) this state would rather >>>> destroy a family than try to help it," Vickie Gonzalez-Leal said on >>>> Friday >>>> afternoon while visiting her mom, Linda Ruffin, also of Rumford. >>>> >>> >>>The evil state vs the noble repeat illegal entrant. Radio Havana >>>couldn't >>>have produced a better anti-American propaganda piece. >>> >>>> Roberto Gonzalez-Leal, a roofer and carpenter from Guamuchil, Sinaloa, >>>> Mexico, entered the United States 12 years ago. After being deported in >>>> February, he re-entered in March to care and provide for his family, >>>> then >>>> living in Louisville, Ky., his wife said. >>>> >>>> "We've never been homeless or on assistance from the government. We >>>> lived >>>> paycheck to paycheck. He works an honest-paying job, he's involved in >>>> the >>>> church, and he's gotten saved, and they just don't want to consider >>>> that. >>>> >>>> "He said he'd live here on house arrest, on probation, or even with an >>>> electronic bracelet on his leg so they'd know where he is. He just >>>> wants >>>> to be a father for his children. My husband's a good man," Vickie >>>> Gonzalez-Leal said. >>>> >>>> Since Roberto was taken, she and the children - Lorenzo Diaz, 8, >>>> Justice >>>> Diaz, 6, >>> >>>So they aren't even his kids. Or they were conceived out of wedlock. So >>>much for Bush's "family values" not stopping at the Rio Grande. >>> >>>>and Amalia Gonzalez-Leal, 2 - have been devastated. The children, who >>>>were >>>>born in Kentucky, have told their mom they don't want to be Mexican if >>>>it >>>>means they have to leave like dad, Vickie Gonzalez-Leal said. >>>> >>> >>>The old "Mexico is Hell" line that illegals and their cheerleaders use in >>>sob-story articles like these. Why do Hispanics always portray >>>countries >>>where they are the majority as shit holes? >>> >>>> Amalia suffers from depression and separation anxiety. Justice is >>>> having >>>> crying spells in school, his mother said. >>> >>>This story must have been written by the Mexican consulate and submitted >>>to >>>the Sun Journal for maximum tears. >>> >>>> >>>> But it's been hardest on Lorenzo, who has known Roberto as his father >>>> since he was 18 months old. >>> >>>Know him "as his father?" In other words, he's not the biological >>>father. >>>Bush's family values. >>> >>>>He was born four months' premature and since birth, he's suffered from >>>>seizures, breathing problems, and attention deficit disorder, his mom >>>>said. >>>> >>>> He wakes two to three times a night crying out for Roberto and can't >>>> write >>>> a letter to him without tears falling, she said. >>>> >>> >>>A Hollywood script writer couldn't write a less convincing line than >>>that. >>>Get out a rag to wipe away the tears from your eyes, people. The >>>children >>>killed by the BATF at Waco didn't get this kind of sob-story from the >>>mainstream media. Randy Weaver's wife and son didn't warrant this kind >>>of >>>sympathy. >>> >>>> Vickie Gonzalez-Leal said she met Roberto in 2002. They wed two years >>>> later. >>>> >>>> "He has a flawed past, but it's not his past that I fell in love with. >>>> It's not his past that raised three kids. They need to look at how he >>>> changed his life for the better. He got his life together and now he's >>>> a >>>> family man, and it doesn't matter to them. >>>> >>>> "When do people have to have pedigrees to live in this country? His >>>> country has never blown us up or destroyed our trade centers, and yet >>>> they >>>> want to throw him out. >>> >>>This is the argument used by the invaders ever since 9-11, to wit, that >>>since Mexico didn't actually fly planes into American buildings, then we >>>should accept millions of Mexicans fleeing their Hispanic hell. This >>>argument is used to counter the well-founded argument that after 9-11, >>>the >>>U.S. needs to control illegal immigration and deport illegals to protect >>>the >>>Homeland. Mexico should not decide who lives illegally in the U.S. and >>>what >>>we can or cannot do to provide Homeland security. To bad the media >>>champions anarchists, lawbreakers, and invaders. >>> >>>> He's been working his (butt) off 18 hours a day, doing jobs Americans >>>> don't want to do," Vicki Gonzalez-Leal said. >>> >>>Americans will work as carpenters and roofers. He took jobs that >>>Americans >>>would be doing if the invaders hadn't taken them and lowered wages so, as >>>Roberto says, they work from paycheck to paycheck. Besides, with the >>>rise >>>in foreclosures and the collapsing market for new homes, we don't need >>>Roberto. >>> >>>> >>>> They moved to Rumford in October to be closer to her mother, Linda >>>> Ruffin, >>>> whose health is failing. Ruffin wanted to see her grandchildren and >>>> Vickie >>>> before cancer or Crohn's takes her daughter's life. >>>> >>> >>>Get out the violins and a rag to wipe away your tears, sports fans. >>> >>>> Crohn's is a type of inflammatory bowel disease. It is a condition in >>>> which the lining of the digestive tract becomes inflamed, causing >>>> severe >>>> diarrhea and abdominal pain. >>>> >>> >>>Red Herring and strawman crap. This is irrelevent to the fact that >>>Roberto >>>knowingly broke our laws and risked prison when violating the terms of >>>his >>>deportation. He got caught and should go back to Mexico like a man or >>>face >>>the consequences of his illegal entrance back into the U.S. >>> >>>> Gonzalez-Leal, who has both colon and cervical cancer, said she's had >>>> 32 >>>> surgeries. More than 5 feet of her intestines have been removed. She >>>> has >>>> been plagued by hernias and gets chemotherapy twice a month. >>>> >>> >>>Which has nothing to do with Roberto. Bush and Alberto Gonzales signed >>>death warrants for hundreds of Texans that sent them to the electric >>>chair -- even a woman who had accepted Jesus as her savior. Why should >>>Mexicans get better treatment than Texans? Why didn't we read these kind >>>of >>>worries and considerations before Janet Reno deported Alian Gonzales or >>>burned down the Branch Davidian church in Texas? >>> >>>> On Jan. 8, she's scheduled for surgery to remove 23 pounds of hernias >>>> from >>>> the scar from the Crohn's surgeries. And, in February, more intestines, >>>> her colon, and possibly her stomach lining must be removed, she said. >>>> >>> >>>This newspaper is worse than the National Enquirer. >>> >>>> However, she's considering skipping chemo and the surgeries, because >>>> they >>>> make her sick and unable to care for her children, she said. >>>> >>> >>>What about the wonderful medical care she would get in Mexico for free? >>> >>>> "Roberto has always been the crutch. When I'm sick or hospitalized, he >>>> handled the kids. Most men cannot deal with a woman who is falling >>>> apart, >>>> but he did it all. He's my missing puzzle piece," Vickie Gonzalez-Leal >>>> said. >>>> >>>> "Roberto never shirked work," Ruffin said. "He never asked for the U.S. >>>> government to help to care or provide for his family." >>>> >>>> But after he was deported, his wife had to sign up for food stamps, >>>> medical care, and Section 8 housing. >>> >>>The evil state forced her to become the White Man's Burden? >>> >>>> >>>> "I think the system is warped, I really do. Why will the government be >>>> willing to support this woman and her three children for however long >>>> Roberto is in prison and support him in prison, when all this man has >>>> done >>>> is try to keep his family together?" Ruffin asked. >>> >>>Oh, puke! The Evil Empire and the Running Dog Capitalists vs the >>>Glorious >>>Workers. How much more pathetic can Hispano-Fascist "journalism" get? >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>I seem to recall Ernesto or David Eduardo saying that Mexico has better >>>health care than the U.S. -- complete cradle to grave socialized medicine >>>and a whole bunch of billionairs and stuff. Why don't they self-deport >>>there? After watching the movie "Sicko," it is apparent that many >>>Americans have been allowed to die by HMOs to protect their "bottom >>>line," >>>so why should the media which has either ignored or demonized Roger >>>Moore's >>>movie, create this sob story surrounding the "plight" of an invader? >>>Does >>>Fidel Castro write this crap? >>> >> Thanks for taking the time to answer her charges in depth, Icon. You're >> right >> on....AAC > > Thank you, sir. > They are illegal aliens, deport their unworthy asses, NOW Let her be treated by her own countries health system. Jim E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest proudamerican Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 "Jim E" <YD639275@SVN.net> wrote in message news:5tra9vF1evc37U1@mid.individual.net... > > "Iconoclast" <Iconoclast@ecoweb.co.zw> wrote in message > news:xPedndg6j7eieuranZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message >> news:i9hen3dnrpc0ink7ea943oagi9ud0o1l6n@4ax.com... >>> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:41:24 -0700, "Iconoclast" >>> <Iconoclast@ecoweb.co.zw> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>"Lets Roll" <letsroll@meet-me-in-hell.com> wrote in message >>>>news:OEwcj.1118$6%.206@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com... >>>>> You just have to wonder why this woman is not sitting her ass in jail >>>>> along side her husband. Some people are only alive because it's >>>>> illegal >>>>> to kill them. Hopefully we will get some divine intervention in her >>>>> case >>>>> very soon, and the hubby will take his spawn with him when he is >>>>> deported, >>>>> seeing as how he's such a deeply concerned papasito and all. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.sunjournal.com/story/244573-3/RiverValley/An_ailing_woman_and_family_try_to_survive_with_husband_in_jail/ >>>>> RUMFORD - Vickie Gonzalez-Leal and her three young children want a >>>>> Christmas miracle tomorrow, or, better yet, early next year. >>>>> >>>>> Homeless, broke, and living in a shelter, the 29-year-old Rumford >>>>> woman >>>>> who is dying of cancer and Crohn's disease just wants her husband >>>>> back, >>>>> for her sake and that of their kids. >>>> >>>>Awwwwww. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Her husband of three years, Roberto Gonzalez-Leal, 32, a Mexican >>>>> national, >>>>> is sitting in Cumberland County Jail in Portland. He's been there >>>>> since >>>>> being arrested Nov. 26 by a U.S. Immigration Customs and Enforcement >>>>> agent >>>>> on a charge of re-entering the country after having been deported on >>>>> Feb. >>>>> 9, in El Paso, Texas, as an illegal alien. >>>>> >>>>> The investigation leading to the arrest began after an anonymous >>>>> tipster >>>>> contacted Rumford police, officials said. >>>> >>>>"A tipster?" It seems so evil, the way the newspaper tells it. The >>>>good >>>>illegal alien who returns after being deported, spitting on our laws and >>>>courts. The evil tipster who calls police. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> At his Dec. 6 arraignment, Gonzalez-Leal pleaded not guilty and had a >>>>> lawyer appointed for him. Thanks to fellow parishioners at Praise >>>>> Assembly >>>>> of God, the couple's church in Rumford, his wife hired an immigration >>>>> lawyer. But that money is running out. >>>>> >>>>> At Gonzalez-Leal's trial, scheduled for Feb. 4, 2008, in U.S. District >>>>> Court in Portland, Judge George Z. Singal will decide his fate - and, >>>>> by >>>>> extension, that of his family. >>>>> >>>>> If convicted of the Class C felony, he faces a maximum sentence of 20 >>>>> years in prison and a $250,000 fine, followed by no more than three >>>>> years >>>>> of supervised release. >>>>> >>>>> "I was told Maine is a sanctuary state, (but) this state would rather >>>>> destroy a family than try to help it," Vickie Gonzalez-Leal said on >>>>> Friday >>>>> afternoon while visiting her mom, Linda Ruffin, also of Rumford. >>>>> >>>> >>>>The evil state vs the noble repeat illegal entrant. Radio Havana >>>>couldn't >>>>have produced a better anti-American propaganda piece. >>>> >>>>> Roberto Gonzalez-Leal, a roofer and carpenter from Guamuchil, Sinaloa, >>>>> Mexico, entered the United States 12 years ago. After being deported >>>>> in >>>>> February, he re-entered in March to care and provide for his family, >>>>> then >>>>> living in Louisville, Ky., his wife said. >>>>> >>>>> "We've never been homeless or on assistance from the government. We >>>>> lived >>>>> paycheck to paycheck. He works an honest-paying job, he's involved in >>>>> the >>>>> church, and he's gotten saved, and they just don't want to consider >>>>> that. >>>>> >>>>> "He said he'd live here on house arrest, on probation, or even with an >>>>> electronic bracelet on his leg so they'd know where he is. He just >>>>> wants >>>>> to be a father for his children. My husband's a good man," Vickie >>>>> Gonzalez-Leal said. >>>>> >>>>> Since Roberto was taken, she and the children - Lorenzo Diaz, 8, >>>>> Justice >>>>> Diaz, 6, >>>> >>>>So they aren't even his kids. Or they were conceived out of wedlock. >>>>So >>>>much for Bush's "family values" not stopping at the Rio Grande. >>>> >>>>>and Amalia Gonzalez-Leal, 2 - have been devastated. The children, who >>>>>were >>>>>born in Kentucky, have told their mom they don't want to be Mexican if >>>>>it >>>>>means they have to leave like dad, Vickie Gonzalez-Leal said. >>>>> >>>> >>>>The old "Mexico is Hell" line that illegals and their cheerleaders use >>>>in >>>>sob-story articles like these. Why do Hispanics always portray >>>>countries >>>>where they are the majority as shit holes? >>>> >>>>> Amalia suffers from depression and separation anxiety. Justice is >>>>> having >>>>> crying spells in school, his mother said. >>>> >>>>This story must have been written by the Mexican consulate and submitted >>>>to >>>>the Sun Journal for maximum tears. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> But it's been hardest on Lorenzo, who has known Roberto as his father >>>>> since he was 18 months old. >>>> >>>>Know him "as his father?" In other words, he's not the biological >>>>father. >>>>Bush's family values. >>>> >>>>>He was born four months' premature and since birth, he's suffered from >>>>>seizures, breathing problems, and attention deficit disorder, his mom >>>>>said. >>>>> >>>>> He wakes two to three times a night crying out for Roberto and can't >>>>> write >>>>> a letter to him without tears falling, she said. >>>>> >>>> >>>>A Hollywood script writer couldn't write a less convincing line than >>>>that. >>>>Get out a rag to wipe away the tears from your eyes, people. The >>>>children >>>>killed by the BATF at Waco didn't get this kind of sob-story from the >>>>mainstream media. Randy Weaver's wife and son didn't warrant this kind >>>>of >>>>sympathy. >>>> >>>>> Vickie Gonzalez-Leal said she met Roberto in 2002. They wed two years >>>>> later. >>>>> >>>>> "He has a flawed past, but it's not his past that I fell in love with. >>>>> It's not his past that raised three kids. They need to look at how he >>>>> changed his life for the better. He got his life together and now he's >>>>> a >>>>> family man, and it doesn't matter to them. >>>>> >>>>> "When do people have to have pedigrees to live in this country? His >>>>> country has never blown us up or destroyed our trade centers, and yet >>>>> they >>>>> want to throw him out. >>>> >>>>This is the argument used by the invaders ever since 9-11, to wit, that >>>>since Mexico didn't actually fly planes into American buildings, then we >>>>should accept millions of Mexicans fleeing their Hispanic hell. This >>>>argument is used to counter the well-founded argument that after 9-11, >>>>the >>>>U.S. needs to control illegal immigration and deport illegals to protect >>>>the >>>>Homeland. Mexico should not decide who lives illegally in the U.S. and >>>>what >>>>we can or cannot do to provide Homeland security. To bad the media >>>>champions anarchists, lawbreakers, and invaders. >>>> >>>>> He's been working his (butt) off 18 hours a day, doing jobs Americans >>>>> don't want to do," Vicki Gonzalez-Leal said. >>>> >>>>Americans will work as carpenters and roofers. He took jobs that >>>>Americans >>>>would be doing if the invaders hadn't taken them and lowered wages so, >>>>as >>>>Roberto says, they work from paycheck to paycheck. Besides, with the >>>>rise >>>>in foreclosures and the collapsing market for new homes, we don't need >>>>Roberto. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> They moved to Rumford in October to be closer to her mother, Linda >>>>> Ruffin, >>>>> whose health is failing. Ruffin wanted to see her grandchildren and >>>>> Vickie >>>>> before cancer or Crohn's takes her daughter's life. >>>>> >>>> >>>>Get out the violins and a rag to wipe away your tears, sports fans. >>>> >>>>> Crohn's is a type of inflammatory bowel disease. It is a condition in >>>>> which the lining of the digestive tract becomes inflamed, causing >>>>> severe >>>>> diarrhea and abdominal pain. >>>>> >>>> >>>>Red Herring and strawman crap. This is irrelevent to the fact that >>>>Roberto >>>>knowingly broke our laws and risked prison when violating the terms of >>>>his >>>>deportation. He got caught and should go back to Mexico like a man or >>>>face >>>>the consequences of his illegal entrance back into the U.S. >>>> >>>>> Gonzalez-Leal, who has both colon and cervical cancer, said she's had >>>>> 32 >>>>> surgeries. More than 5 feet of her intestines have been removed. She >>>>> has >>>>> been plagued by hernias and gets chemotherapy twice a month. >>>>> >>>> >>>>Which has nothing to do with Roberto. Bush and Alberto Gonzales signed >>>>death warrants for hundreds of Texans that sent them to the electric >>>>chair -- even a woman who had accepted Jesus as her savior. Why should >>>>Mexicans get better treatment than Texans? Why didn't we read these >>>>kind of >>>>worries and considerations before Janet Reno deported Alian Gonzales or >>>>burned down the Branch Davidian church in Texas? >>>> >>>>> On Jan. 8, she's scheduled for surgery to remove 23 pounds of hernias >>>>> from >>>>> the scar from the Crohn's surgeries. And, in February, more >>>>> intestines, >>>>> her colon, and possibly her stomach lining must be removed, she said. >>>>> >>>> >>>>This newspaper is worse than the National Enquirer. >>>> >>>>> However, she's considering skipping chemo and the surgeries, because >>>>> they >>>>> make her sick and unable to care for her children, she said. >>>>> >>>> >>>>What about the wonderful medical care she would get in Mexico for free? >>>> >>>>> "Roberto has always been the crutch. When I'm sick or hospitalized, he >>>>> handled the kids. Most men cannot deal with a woman who is falling >>>>> apart, >>>>> but he did it all. He's my missing puzzle piece," Vickie Gonzalez-Leal >>>>> said. >>>>> >>>>> "Roberto never shirked work," Ruffin said. "He never asked for the >>>>> U.S. >>>>> government to help to care or provide for his family." >>>>> >>>>> But after he was deported, his wife had to sign up for food stamps, >>>>> medical care, and Section 8 housing. >>>> >>>>The evil state forced her to become the White Man's Burden? >>>> >>>>> >>>>> "I think the system is warped, I really do. Why will the government be >>>>> willing to support this woman and her three children for however long >>>>> Roberto is in prison and support him in prison, when all this man has >>>>> done >>>>> is try to keep his family together?" Ruffin asked. >>>> >>>>Oh, puke! The Evil Empire and the Running Dog Capitalists vs the >>>>Glorious >>>>Workers. How much more pathetic can Hispano-Fascist "journalism" get? >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>I seem to recall Ernesto or David Eduardo saying that Mexico has better >>>>health care than the U.S. -- complete cradle to grave socialized >>>>medicine >>>>and a whole bunch of billionairs and stuff. Why don't they self-deport >>>>there? After watching the movie "Sicko," it is apparent that many >>>>Americans have been allowed to die by HMOs to protect their "bottom >>>>line," >>>>so why should the media which has either ignored or demonized Roger >>>>Moore's >>>>movie, create this sob story surrounding the "plight" of an invader? >>>>Does >>>>Fidel Castro write this crap? >>>> >>> Thanks for taking the time to answer her charges in depth, Icon. You're >>> right >>> on....AAC >> >> Thank you, sir. >> > > They are illegal aliens, deport their unworthy asses, NOW > Let her be treated by her own countries health system. > > > Jim E > Mexico has the worlds best health care system. That is what Lupe told us. Why the hell would she want to be treated by our inferior doctors? She could be cured in Mexico. Unfortunately for us, Mexico's cure seems to be to send them here. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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