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Beaufu
Guest
I have this same problem...No history. I remember hidiing it a long time
ago, so nosy people couldnt see my business!!! Now I want it back and
cant remember what i did! It was a lot simpler than all this....most of
this I dont even understand, or know how to get to.
S
"dean-dean" wrote:
<span style="color:blue">
> Hi Simpleuser,
> You could try deleting the contents of the OldHistory folder piece by piece,
> until it boils down to the file(s) you can't delete, by opening the folder
> and deleting what you can. Let me know which file(s) are left, and we can
> go from there. No, the folder's not doing any harm; it's just taking up
> space. I'm curious to know which file(s) are the stubborn ones.
>
> "Simpleuser" <Simpleuser@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F07E14E0-C7F1-4354-9511-0EB1174970A8@microsoft.com...<span style="color:green">
> > Hi Dean-Dean,
> > I have successfully deleted the folder "~History" but have not succeeded
> > with "OldHistory". Even with UAC turned off and choosing "Run as
> > Administrator" for Windows Explorer I just get the message "you need
> > permission". I am not quite sure why that would be except that I
> > recollect I
> > was denied access to one of the files in there; I think it was one of the
> > "desktop.ini" files so perhaps that is reason.
> > It would be quite nice to delete it but presumably it is not doing any
> > harm
> > there, so perhaps I could just leave it there unless you have another
> > suggestion.
> > I haven't yet removed to the extra account just in case, and have tried
> > the
> > above logged on as “Philip†and in the extra account – with the same
> > result.
> >
> > --
> > Hopefully -- Simpleuser
> >
> >
> > "dean-dean" wrote:
> ><span style="color:darkred">
> >> Hi Simpleuser,
> >>
> >> I'm glad to hear things are working. You stuck with it to the bitter
> >> end!
> >> Good work.
> >>
> >> You can delete the two folders "~History" and "OldHistory" by navigating
> >> here:
> >>
> >> C:UsersPhillipAppDataLocalMicrosoftWindows
> >>
> >> Right-click on each folder, and choose Delete. With UAC turned off, this
> >> shouldn't be a problem. You may have to go to
> >> Start MenuProgramsAccessories, right-click on Windows Explorer, and
> >> choose
> >> "Run as Administrator" first.
> >>
> >> To remove the New Account, go to Control Panel > User Accounts > "Manage
> >> another account", when you're logged on to Phillip. Choose the
> >> appropriate account name, and then click "Delete the account." Windows
> >> now
> >> asks you if you want to preserve the contents of this person's Documents
> >> folder. (I would say no). But If you did click the Keep Files button,
> >> you'll find a new folder, named with the same name as the dearly
> >> departed,
> >> on your Desktop. You can delete that folder if you don't want it.
> >>
> >> Typing shell:history should give you a whole new view of the History
> >> folder.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Simpleuser" <Simpleuser@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:5656D1B8-604D-4DC1-9404-169535058C4C@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi Dean-Dean,
> >> > Eureka! I have the novel experience of something in my history tab! I
> >> > want
> >> > to compliment you on your very professional and helpful (they aren't
> >> > always
> >> > the same) approach to solving my problem. I'd also like to make it
> >> > clear
> >> > to
> >> > others with the same problem that this has been successful. Many
> >> > thanks
> >> > and
> >> > do have a good day, best regards -- Simpleuser
> >> > --
> >> > Hopefully
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "dean-dean" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Simpleuser,
> >> >>
> >> >> Good work. Well, I'm not surprised that History still doesn't work;
> >> >> things
> >> >> are going as I expected. You scared me for a moment when you said the
> >> >> "History" folder was empty.
> >> >>
> >> >> There's a bug in Vista that you will now have to fix. Navigate to
> >> >> this
> >> >> folder, so that this is showing in your address
> >> >> bar:
> >> >>
> >> >> C:UsersPhillipAppDataLocalMicrosoftWindowsHistoryHistory.IE5
> >> >>
> >> >> Right-click the file called "desktop.ini". Choose Copy (NOT Cut!).
> >> >> Now
> >> >> navigate back to this folder, so that this is showing in your address
> >> >> bar:
> >> >>
> >> >> C:UsersPhillipAppDataLocalMicrosoftWindowsHistory
> >> >>
> >> >> Right-click an empty spot in the window, and choose Paste. A dialog
> >> >> will
> >> >> pop up asking you what to do. Choose "Copy and Replace".
> >> >>
> >> >> Close Explorer. Log Off. Then Log back On to your Phillip account.
> >> >> Type
> >> >> shell:history. Now what do you see? Try Internet Explorer.
> >> >>
> >> >> As far as UAC is concerned, having it on or off should have no bearing
> >> >> on
> >> >> your issue with History. You just won't have a "Low" folder,
> >> >> alongside a
> >> >> "History.IE5" folder, under the new "History" folder.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Simpleuser" <Simpleuser@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:3C6B5382-0702-4AAA-A1C8-53FA5F66E565@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Hi again Dean-Dean,
> >> >> > I hadn't realised that logging off and logging on again the
> >> >> > preferences
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > folder views had been lost. Now I have reset it as you asked the
> >> >> > "history"
> >> >> > folder is not empty.
> >> >> > It contains a desktop.ini file that is empty -- I have access to it.
> >> >> > It
> >> >> > also contains a folder "History.IE5" with the clock icon on it --
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > turn
> >> >> > this folder contains another "desktop.ini" file with a small amount
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > information in it, and again I have access to that; and the folder
> >> >> > also
> >> >> > contains an "index.dat" file.
> >> >> > Hopefully that is helpful.
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Hopefully
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Simpleuser" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hi Dean-Dean,
> >> >> >> I forgot you had asked about the results of "shell: history" -- the
> >> >> >> folder
> >> >> >> is there but empty.
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Hopefully -- Simpleuser
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Simpleuser" wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Hi Dean-Dean,
> >> >> >> > Thanks again for your speedy reply -- and as before it is good
> >> >> >> > news
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > bad
> >> >> >> > news. I have followed your instructions which seemed to work
> >> >> >> > fine
> >> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > bad news is that the history tab in IE7 is still blank. So I
> >> >> >> > will
> >> >> >> > wait
> >> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> > your instructions.
> >> >> >> > Answering your other questions -- I am the only user of my PC
> >> >> >> > which
> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> > just
> >> >> >> > over two months old now, but it has been back to the vendor
> >> >> >> > because
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> > problem with the DVD drive. I would expect the vendor has used
> >> >> >> > IE7
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > download bits of software so that would be the only other usage
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > IE7.
> >> >> >> > As
> >> >> >> > you have suspected I do have UAC turned off for now (if it is
> >> >> >> > helpful
> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> > solving this problem I can turn it back on) because it stops the
> >> >> >> > licence
> >> >> >> > validation check that Photoshop carries out and otherwise I have
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > re-enter
> >> >> >> > all the licence details every time I open the application -- it's
> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> > well-known problem with Photoshop and Vista.
> >> >> >> > From what you have said, hopefully the problem is nearly fixed.
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > Hopefully - Simpleuser
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "dean-dean" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > > Hi Simpleuser,
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > It looks as though both your History and ~History folders have
> >> >> >> > > been
> >> >> >> > > on your
> >> >> >> > > computer for quite some time, and neither look to be in very
> >> >> >> > > good
> >> >> >> > > shape.
> >> >> >> > > Both have obvious desktop.ini problems (and you shouldn't be
> >> >> >> > > getting
> >> >> >> > > an
> >> >> >> > > "Access Denied" when double-clicking any of the desktop.ini's).
> >> >> >> > > Are
> >> >> >> > > you the
> >> >> >> > > only user on your computer, or is there another user's name
> >> >> >> > > that
> >> >> >> > > you
> >> >> >> > > can log
> >> >> >> > > on to? Also, do you have User Account Control turned on or
> >> >> >> > > off?
> >> >> >> > > (UAC is
> >> >> >> > > the creator of the Low folder in History).
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Basically, the System will create a brand new History folder
> >> >> >> > > automatically,
> >> >> >> > > which is what I think needs to be done, but you will have to be
> >> >> >> > > logged on to
> >> >> >> > > another Administrator Account to accomplish this end.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > If you have no other Administrative account that you can log on
> >> >> >> > > to, I
> >> >> >> > > think
> >> >> >> > > the easiest way to go about this is for you to create a
> >> >> >> > > temporary
> >> >> >> > > New user account on your computer (you can remove it when your
> >> >> >> > > History
> >> >> >> > > problem is fixed). On the Start Menu, click on your User
> >> >> >> > > picture,
> >> >> >> > > at
> >> >> >> > > the
> >> >> >> > > top of the menu on the right side. When the "User Accounts"
> >> >> >> > > window
> >> >> >> > > pops up,
> >> >> >> > > click on "Manage another account". Then click on "Create a new
> >> >> >> > > account".
> >> >> >> > > Make the new account an Administrator account. You can name
> >> >> >> > > the
> >> >> >> > > account
> >> >> >> > > anything you want, except "Phillip". Try "New" as the name.
> >> >> >> > > You
> >> >> >> > > don't need
> >> >> >> > > to make a password for the New account, since it's only
> >> >> >> > > temporary.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Now Log off. Log on to the New account.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > In Control Panel > Folder Options, on the View tab, do three
> >> >> >> > > things. Choose to "Show hidden files and folders", UN-check
> >> >> >> > > "Hide
> >> >> >> > > protected
> >> >> >> > > operating system files (Recommended)", and UNcheck "Hide
> >> >> >> > > extensions
> >> >> >> > > for
> >> >> >> > > known file types" . (Apply, OK).
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Open Computer on your Start Menu, and navigate to:
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > C:UsersPhillipAppDataLocalMicrosoftWindows
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Right-click on the "History" folder, and choose Rename. Change
> >> >> >> > > the
> >> >> >> > > name to
> >> >> >> > > "OldHistory".
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Now Log Off from the New account, and Log on to Phillip. Type
> >> >> >> > > shell:history
> >> >> >> > > in the Start Menu like you did before. What do you see? Try
> >> >> >> > > Internet
> >> >> >> > > Explorer to see if the History pane is working. Go to a few
> >> >> >> > > sites.
> >> >> >> > > If is
> >> >> >> > > still not working, you may have to do only one more thing to
> >> >> >> > > fix
> >> >> >> > > it.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Keep the temporary New account until the History problem is
> >> >> >> > > fixed.
> >> >> >> > > I'll
> >> >> >> > > help you remove it when we get to that point.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > "Simpleuser" <Simpleuser@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> > > message
> >> >> >> > > news:6966874F-FAA0-45F9-8236-C627036A2120@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > > > Hi Dean-Dean. Many thanks for the reply. I need to ask a
> >> >> >> > > > couple</span></span></span>
ago, so nosy people couldnt see my business!!! Now I want it back and
cant remember what i did! It was a lot simpler than all this....most of
this I dont even understand, or know how to get to.
S
"dean-dean" wrote:
<span style="color:blue">
> Hi Simpleuser,
> You could try deleting the contents of the OldHistory folder piece by piece,
> until it boils down to the file(s) you can't delete, by opening the folder
> and deleting what you can. Let me know which file(s) are left, and we can
> go from there. No, the folder's not doing any harm; it's just taking up
> space. I'm curious to know which file(s) are the stubborn ones.
>
> "Simpleuser" <Simpleuser@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F07E14E0-C7F1-4354-9511-0EB1174970A8@microsoft.com...<span style="color:green">
> > Hi Dean-Dean,
> > I have successfully deleted the folder "~History" but have not succeeded
> > with "OldHistory". Even with UAC turned off and choosing "Run as
> > Administrator" for Windows Explorer I just get the message "you need
> > permission". I am not quite sure why that would be except that I
> > recollect I
> > was denied access to one of the files in there; I think it was one of the
> > "desktop.ini" files so perhaps that is reason.
> > It would be quite nice to delete it but presumably it is not doing any
> > harm
> > there, so perhaps I could just leave it there unless you have another
> > suggestion.
> > I haven't yet removed to the extra account just in case, and have tried
> > the
> > above logged on as “Philip†and in the extra account – with the same
> > result.
> >
> > --
> > Hopefully -- Simpleuser
> >
> >
> > "dean-dean" wrote:
> ><span style="color:darkred">
> >> Hi Simpleuser,
> >>
> >> I'm glad to hear things are working. You stuck with it to the bitter
> >> end!
> >> Good work.
> >>
> >> You can delete the two folders "~History" and "OldHistory" by navigating
> >> here:
> >>
> >> C:UsersPhillipAppDataLocalMicrosoftWindows
> >>
> >> Right-click on each folder, and choose Delete. With UAC turned off, this
> >> shouldn't be a problem. You may have to go to
> >> Start MenuProgramsAccessories, right-click on Windows Explorer, and
> >> choose
> >> "Run as Administrator" first.
> >>
> >> To remove the New Account, go to Control Panel > User Accounts > "Manage
> >> another account", when you're logged on to Phillip. Choose the
> >> appropriate account name, and then click "Delete the account." Windows
> >> now
> >> asks you if you want to preserve the contents of this person's Documents
> >> folder. (I would say no). But If you did click the Keep Files button,
> >> you'll find a new folder, named with the same name as the dearly
> >> departed,
> >> on your Desktop. You can delete that folder if you don't want it.
> >>
> >> Typing shell:history should give you a whole new view of the History
> >> folder.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Simpleuser" <Simpleuser@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:5656D1B8-604D-4DC1-9404-169535058C4C@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi Dean-Dean,
> >> > Eureka! I have the novel experience of something in my history tab! I
> >> > want
> >> > to compliment you on your very professional and helpful (they aren't
> >> > always
> >> > the same) approach to solving my problem. I'd also like to make it
> >> > clear
> >> > to
> >> > others with the same problem that this has been successful. Many
> >> > thanks
> >> > and
> >> > do have a good day, best regards -- Simpleuser
> >> > --
> >> > Hopefully
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "dean-dean" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Simpleuser,
> >> >>
> >> >> Good work. Well, I'm not surprised that History still doesn't work;
> >> >> things
> >> >> are going as I expected. You scared me for a moment when you said the
> >> >> "History" folder was empty.
> >> >>
> >> >> There's a bug in Vista that you will now have to fix. Navigate to
> >> >> this
> >> >> folder, so that this is showing in your address
> >> >> bar:
> >> >>
> >> >> C:UsersPhillipAppDataLocalMicrosoftWindowsHistoryHistory.IE5
> >> >>
> >> >> Right-click the file called "desktop.ini". Choose Copy (NOT Cut!).
> >> >> Now
> >> >> navigate back to this folder, so that this is showing in your address
> >> >> bar:
> >> >>
> >> >> C:UsersPhillipAppDataLocalMicrosoftWindowsHistory
> >> >>
> >> >> Right-click an empty spot in the window, and choose Paste. A dialog
> >> >> will
> >> >> pop up asking you what to do. Choose "Copy and Replace".
> >> >>
> >> >> Close Explorer. Log Off. Then Log back On to your Phillip account.
> >> >> Type
> >> >> shell:history. Now what do you see? Try Internet Explorer.
> >> >>
> >> >> As far as UAC is concerned, having it on or off should have no bearing
> >> >> on
> >> >> your issue with History. You just won't have a "Low" folder,
> >> >> alongside a
> >> >> "History.IE5" folder, under the new "History" folder.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Simpleuser" <Simpleuser@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:3C6B5382-0702-4AAA-A1C8-53FA5F66E565@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Hi again Dean-Dean,
> >> >> > I hadn't realised that logging off and logging on again the
> >> >> > preferences
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > folder views had been lost. Now I have reset it as you asked the
> >> >> > "history"
> >> >> > folder is not empty.
> >> >> > It contains a desktop.ini file that is empty -- I have access to it.
> >> >> > It
> >> >> > also contains a folder "History.IE5" with the clock icon on it --
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > turn
> >> >> > this folder contains another "desktop.ini" file with a small amount
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > information in it, and again I have access to that; and the folder
> >> >> > also
> >> >> > contains an "index.dat" file.
> >> >> > Hopefully that is helpful.
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Hopefully
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Simpleuser" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hi Dean-Dean,
> >> >> >> I forgot you had asked about the results of "shell: history" -- the
> >> >> >> folder
> >> >> >> is there but empty.
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Hopefully -- Simpleuser
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Simpleuser" wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Hi Dean-Dean,
> >> >> >> > Thanks again for your speedy reply -- and as before it is good
> >> >> >> > news
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > bad
> >> >> >> > news. I have followed your instructions which seemed to work
> >> >> >> > fine
> >> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > bad news is that the history tab in IE7 is still blank. So I
> >> >> >> > will
> >> >> >> > wait
> >> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> > your instructions.
> >> >> >> > Answering your other questions -- I am the only user of my PC
> >> >> >> > which
> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> > just
> >> >> >> > over two months old now, but it has been back to the vendor
> >> >> >> > because
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> > problem with the DVD drive. I would expect the vendor has used
> >> >> >> > IE7
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > download bits of software so that would be the only other usage
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > IE7.
> >> >> >> > As
> >> >> >> > you have suspected I do have UAC turned off for now (if it is
> >> >> >> > helpful
> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> > solving this problem I can turn it back on) because it stops the
> >> >> >> > licence
> >> >> >> > validation check that Photoshop carries out and otherwise I have
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > re-enter
> >> >> >> > all the licence details every time I open the application -- it's
> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> > well-known problem with Photoshop and Vista.
> >> >> >> > From what you have said, hopefully the problem is nearly fixed.
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > Hopefully - Simpleuser
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "dean-dean" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > > Hi Simpleuser,
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > It looks as though both your History and ~History folders have
> >> >> >> > > been
> >> >> >> > > on your
> >> >> >> > > computer for quite some time, and neither look to be in very
> >> >> >> > > good
> >> >> >> > > shape.
> >> >> >> > > Both have obvious desktop.ini problems (and you shouldn't be
> >> >> >> > > getting
> >> >> >> > > an
> >> >> >> > > "Access Denied" when double-clicking any of the desktop.ini's).
> >> >> >> > > Are
> >> >> >> > > you the
> >> >> >> > > only user on your computer, or is there another user's name
> >> >> >> > > that
> >> >> >> > > you
> >> >> >> > > can log
> >> >> >> > > on to? Also, do you have User Account Control turned on or
> >> >> >> > > off?
> >> >> >> > > (UAC is
> >> >> >> > > the creator of the Low folder in History).
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Basically, the System will create a brand new History folder
> >> >> >> > > automatically,
> >> >> >> > > which is what I think needs to be done, but you will have to be
> >> >> >> > > logged on to
> >> >> >> > > another Administrator Account to accomplish this end.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > If you have no other Administrative account that you can log on
> >> >> >> > > to, I
> >> >> >> > > think
> >> >> >> > > the easiest way to go about this is for you to create a
> >> >> >> > > temporary
> >> >> >> > > New user account on your computer (you can remove it when your
> >> >> >> > > History
> >> >> >> > > problem is fixed). On the Start Menu, click on your User
> >> >> >> > > picture,
> >> >> >> > > at
> >> >> >> > > the
> >> >> >> > > top of the menu on the right side. When the "User Accounts"
> >> >> >> > > window
> >> >> >> > > pops up,
> >> >> >> > > click on "Manage another account". Then click on "Create a new
> >> >> >> > > account".
> >> >> >> > > Make the new account an Administrator account. You can name
> >> >> >> > > the
> >> >> >> > > account
> >> >> >> > > anything you want, except "Phillip". Try "New" as the name.
> >> >> >> > > You
> >> >> >> > > don't need
> >> >> >> > > to make a password for the New account, since it's only
> >> >> >> > > temporary.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Now Log off. Log on to the New account.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > In Control Panel > Folder Options, on the View tab, do three
> >> >> >> > > things. Choose to "Show hidden files and folders", UN-check
> >> >> >> > > "Hide
> >> >> >> > > protected
> >> >> >> > > operating system files (Recommended)", and UNcheck "Hide
> >> >> >> > > extensions
> >> >> >> > > for
> >> >> >> > > known file types" . (Apply, OK).
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Open Computer on your Start Menu, and navigate to:
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > C:UsersPhillipAppDataLocalMicrosoftWindows
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Right-click on the "History" folder, and choose Rename. Change
> >> >> >> > > the
> >> >> >> > > name to
> >> >> >> > > "OldHistory".
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Now Log Off from the New account, and Log on to Phillip. Type
> >> >> >> > > shell:history
> >> >> >> > > in the Start Menu like you did before. What do you see? Try
> >> >> >> > > Internet
> >> >> >> > > Explorer to see if the History pane is working. Go to a few
> >> >> >> > > sites.
> >> >> >> > > If is
> >> >> >> > > still not working, you may have to do only one more thing to
> >> >> >> > > fix
> >> >> >> > > it.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Keep the temporary New account until the History problem is
> >> >> >> > > fixed.
> >> >> >> > > I'll
> >> >> >> > > help you remove it when we get to that point.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > "Simpleuser" <Simpleuser@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> > > message
> >> >> >> > > news:6966874F-FAA0-45F9-8236-C627036A2120@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > > > Hi Dean-Dean. Many thanks for the reply. I need to ask a
> >> >> >> > > > couple</span></span></span>