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> Ads promoting Islam are to be placed on New York subway cars in
> September, but a U.S. congressman finds people sponsoring the messages
> unacceptable.
>
> http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/US/07/22/islam.ads/art.wahhaj.cnn.jp
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> <--- Siraj Wahhaj is imam of a Brooklyn mosque and a backer of
> pro-Islam ads on New York subway cars.
>
> http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/US/07/22/islam.ads/art.islamad.cnn.j
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> g <--- The ads feature key words about Islam on one side and the words
> "You deserve to know" on the other.
>
> "I have no problem with the ad itself, but I have a very, very real
> problem
> with those behind it," Rep. Peter King, a New York Republican, said
> Tuesday. He is urging the Metropolitan Transit Authority to reject the
> ads.
>
> The campaign is to feature ads on 1,000 of the subway system's roughly
> 6,200 cars. The main sponsor is a grass-roots organization, Islamic
> Circle of North America.
>
> The ads, simple black-and-white panels, will feature key words or
> phrases about Islam on one side of the panel such as "Head Scarf?" or
> "Prophet Muhammad?" and the words "You deserve to know" along with the
> Web site address WhyIslam.org on the other side.
>
> "The idea is to evoke certain thoughts in the mindset of the person
> who is looking at the ads and get them to a point where they can
> reflect upon certain words that one could define as hot words or
> keywords that get thrown around a lot but are not necessarily defined
> in the most proper context," said New York University's Imam Khalid
> Latif, a cleric who is promoting the project in a YouTube video
> created by the Islamic Circle. Watch the controversy surrounding the
> subway ads [
> http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/07/22/islam.ads/?
imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail
> #cnnSTCVideo ] .
>
> Another of the backers of the advertising campaign -- which will
> launch in September to coincide with the monthlong Islamic holiday of
> Ramadan -- is Siraj Wahhaj, imam of a Brooklyn mosque.
>
> Wahhaj was the first Muslim to lead a prayer before the House of
> Representatives, but King objects to him because he was a character
> witness for convicted 1993 World Trade Center bombing mastermind
> Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman.
>
> "He is a known Islamic extremist, and you would be giving him
> credibility and stature through a known government facility," said
> King, ranking member of the Homeland Security Committee.
>
> Wahhaj also appeared on a list of 170 potential unindicted
> co-conspirators in the 1993 bombing case. A prosecutor said that not
> everyone on the list was considered a co-conspirator.
>
> On Monday, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg did not join in King's
> outrage about the ads.
>
> "If you were to advocate becoming a Muslim, I assume the First
> Amendment would protect you," he said.
>
> But King, noting that the ads would be up during the seventh
> anniversary of the September 11 attacks, said, "I'm calling on the MTA
> not to have these ads, not to go forward with them, and I don't see
> this as a free speech issue at all."
>
> King said he sent a letter to the MTA on Monday night demanding that
> it reject the ads.
>
> The New York Post has reacted strongly to the ads, running a cover
> photograph of Wahhaj on Monday with the headline "Jihad Train" and
> posting an article on its Web site with the headline "Train-ing day
> for jihadists" and the first paragraph saying, "Allah aboard!"
>
> Abdel-Rahman and nine others were convicted in 1995 of seditious
> conspiracy for their role in a plot to bomb the United Nations, FBI
> headquarters in Manhattan, two tunnels in New York and a bridge
> connecting New Jersey with Manhattan, all in one day.
>
> The government said the group also was responsible for the February
> 26, 1993, World Trade Center bombing that killed six people and
> injured more than 1,000.
>
> Andrew McCarthy, a former federal prosecutor in that case, said
> Wahhaj's name was included in a filing that prosecutors were required
> to provide to defense attorneys in the case, a list of all the names
> of people who could possibly be foreseen to come up in the evidence.
> The filing, McCarthy said, has been called a "co-conspirator list."
> But Wahhaj was never named by the prosecution.
>
> "The only time he came up in a meaningful way before the jury is when
> the defense called him as a witness," McCarthy recalled.
>
> McCarthy said that although the list named anyone the government might
> allege during the trial was a co-conspirator, not everyone on the list
> was so labeled.
>
> Wahhaj said Monday that he was a character witness for Abdel-Rahman in
> the context of "what we knew about him before the incident," citing
> him as a "scholar in Islam" and "a great reciter of the Quran."
>
> "People try to make the connection as if I'm endorsing some bad deeds
> that [were] done by Sheik Abdel-Rahman," he said. "That had nothing to
> do with it."
>
> He added, "not only have I never been charged with anything, not one
> FBI agent has ever asked me one question in relationship to that
> bombing."
>
> Wahhaj also said that he regrets some of his more controversial
> statements, such as calling the FBI and the CIA "terrorists."
>
> "What I was saying is that not all the FBI or CIA are terrorists, but
> there are some elements in there," he said. "So if you want to accuse
> some Muslims [of being terrorists], OK. These Muslims did that, but
> don't undermine the entire faith. That's what the message is."
>
> Wahhaj said the New York Post's "cheesy" and "anti-Islam" reaction to
> his participation in the Subway Project is "the very reason the young
> Muslims want to put out this ad campaign."
>
> Islamic Circle spokesman Azeem Khan called the situation a "perfect
> microcosm" of what the ads seek to address: that Wahhaj's portrayal in
> media reports is similar to how Islam is often depicted.
>
> "I think that even more so reinforces the idea as to why a project
> like this is necessary, where Muslims have to be more pro-active in
> terms of educating people about their religion, by no means
> proselytizing the faith in any capacity, but really setting a standard
> and defining what mainstream Islam stands for," Latif said.
> advertisement
>
> The project is the Islamic Circle's first such advertising campaign.
> The group has run ads before but not on New York's subways.
>
> The transit authority said the cost of the monthlong campaign is about
> $48,000.
>
>
> http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/07/22/islam.ads/?
imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail
>
>
>
>
>
**** off E-lort, clean up infront of yer own front door loooooser, btw,
did I mention that we took back what was ours, Skane, ie. Sk?ne.
So once again **** off you porridge eating and non-swollwing-before-
talking son of a bitch.
--
Every night
Street light
I drink my booze
Some run
Some fight
I win they lose
What I need I like
What I don't I fight
N' I don't like you
So say bye bye
<nuke.islamistan@your.earliest.convenience> skrev f?ljande skiiiit i
news:226v08.6pb.19.1@news.alt.net:
>
>
> Ads promoting Islam are to be placed on New York subway cars in
> September, but a U.S. congressman finds people sponsoring the messages
> unacceptable.
>
> http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/US/07/22/islam.ads/art.wahhaj.cnn.jp
g
> <--- Siraj Wahhaj is imam of a Brooklyn mosque and a backer of
> pro-Islam ads on New York subway cars.
>
> http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/US/07/22/islam.ads/art.islamad.cnn.j
p
> g <--- The ads feature key words about Islam on one side and the words
> "You deserve to know" on the other.
>
> "I have no problem with the ad itself, but I have a very, very real
> problem
> with those behind it," Rep. Peter King, a New York Republican, said
> Tuesday. He is urging the Metropolitan Transit Authority to reject the
> ads.
>
> The campaign is to feature ads on 1,000 of the subway system's roughly
> 6,200 cars. The main sponsor is a grass-roots organization, Islamic
> Circle of North America.
>
> The ads, simple black-and-white panels, will feature key words or
> phrases about Islam on one side of the panel such as "Head Scarf?" or
> "Prophet Muhammad?" and the words "You deserve to know" along with the
> Web site address WhyIslam.org on the other side.
>
> "The idea is to evoke certain thoughts in the mindset of the person
> who is looking at the ads and get them to a point where they can
> reflect upon certain words that one could define as hot words or
> keywords that get thrown around a lot but are not necessarily defined
> in the most proper context," said New York University's Imam Khalid
> Latif, a cleric who is promoting the project in a YouTube video
> created by the Islamic Circle. Watch the controversy surrounding the
> subway ads [
> http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/07/22/islam.ads/?
imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail
> #cnnSTCVideo ] .
>
> Another of the backers of the advertising campaign -- which will
> launch in September to coincide with the monthlong Islamic holiday of
> Ramadan -- is Siraj Wahhaj, imam of a Brooklyn mosque.
>
> Wahhaj was the first Muslim to lead a prayer before the House of
> Representatives, but King objects to him because he was a character
> witness for convicted 1993 World Trade Center bombing mastermind
> Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman.
>
> "He is a known Islamic extremist, and you would be giving him
> credibility and stature through a known government facility," said
> King, ranking member of the Homeland Security Committee.
>
> Wahhaj also appeared on a list of 170 potential unindicted
> co-conspirators in the 1993 bombing case. A prosecutor said that not
> everyone on the list was considered a co-conspirator.
>
> On Monday, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg did not join in King's
> outrage about the ads.
>
> "If you were to advocate becoming a Muslim, I assume the First
> Amendment would protect you," he said.
>
> But King, noting that the ads would be up during the seventh
> anniversary of the September 11 attacks, said, "I'm calling on the MTA
> not to have these ads, not to go forward with them, and I don't see
> this as a free speech issue at all."
>
> King said he sent a letter to the MTA on Monday night demanding that
> it reject the ads.
>
> The New York Post has reacted strongly to the ads, running a cover
> photograph of Wahhaj on Monday with the headline "Jihad Train" and
> posting an article on its Web site with the headline "Train-ing day
> for jihadists" and the first paragraph saying, "Allah aboard!"
>
> Abdel-Rahman and nine others were convicted in 1995 of seditious
> conspiracy for their role in a plot to bomb the United Nations, FBI
> headquarters in Manhattan, two tunnels in New York and a bridge
> connecting New Jersey with Manhattan, all in one day.
>
> The government said the group also was responsible for the February
> 26, 1993, World Trade Center bombing that killed six people and
> injured more than 1,000.
>
> Andrew McCarthy, a former federal prosecutor in that case, said
> Wahhaj's name was included in a filing that prosecutors were required
> to provide to defense attorneys in the case, a list of all the names
> of people who could possibly be foreseen to come up in the evidence.
> The filing, McCarthy said, has been called a "co-conspirator list."
> But Wahhaj was never named by the prosecution.
>
> "The only time he came up in a meaningful way before the jury is when
> the defense called him as a witness," McCarthy recalled.
>
> McCarthy said that although the list named anyone the government might
> allege during the trial was a co-conspirator, not everyone on the list
> was so labeled.
>
> Wahhaj said Monday that he was a character witness for Abdel-Rahman in
> the context of "what we knew about him before the incident," citing
> him as a "scholar in Islam" and "a great reciter of the Quran."
>
> "People try to make the connection as if I'm endorsing some bad deeds
> that [were] done by Sheik Abdel-Rahman," he said. "That had nothing to
> do with it."
>
> He added, "not only have I never been charged with anything, not one
> FBI agent has ever asked me one question in relationship to that
> bombing."
>
> Wahhaj also said that he regrets some of his more controversial
> statements, such as calling the FBI and the CIA "terrorists."
>
> "What I was saying is that not all the FBI or CIA are terrorists, but
> there are some elements in there," he said. "So if you want to accuse
> some Muslims [of being terrorists], OK. These Muslims did that, but
> don't undermine the entire faith. That's what the message is."
>
> Wahhaj said the New York Post's "cheesy" and "anti-Islam" reaction to
> his participation in the Subway Project is "the very reason the young
> Muslims want to put out this ad campaign."
>
> Islamic Circle spokesman Azeem Khan called the situation a "perfect
> microcosm" of what the ads seek to address: that Wahhaj's portrayal in
> media reports is similar to how Islam is often depicted.
>
> "I think that even more so reinforces the idea as to why a project
> like this is necessary, where Muslims have to be more pro-active in
> terms of educating people about their religion, by no means
> proselytizing the faith in any capacity, but really setting a standard
> and defining what mainstream Islam stands for," Latif said.
> advertisement
>
> The project is the Islamic Circle's first such advertising campaign.
> The group has run ads before but not on New York's subways.
>
> The transit authority said the cost of the monthlong campaign is about
> $48,000.
>
>
> http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/07/22/islam.ads/?
imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail
>
>
>
>
>
**** off E-lort, clean up infront of yer own front door loooooser, btw,
did I mention that we took back what was ours, Skane, ie. Sk?ne.
So once again **** off you porridge eating and non-swollwing-before-
talking son of a bitch.
--
Every night
Street light
I drink my booze
Some run
Some fight
I win they lose
What I need I like
What I don't I fight
N' I don't like you
So say bye bye
