Re: KILL BILL: House Republicans Secretly Work to Reject Plan...

[Ramon F Herrera]

On Jun 26, 12:39 pm, Drunken Walmart Greeter <was-steely-from-
yokoh...@postamerica.net> wrote:
> http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0607/House_Republicans_set_to_...
>
> One more potential roadblock for Senate immigration measure
>
> House Republicans are set to vote on a measure Tuesday afternoon
> rejecting the Senate immigration bill shortly after the upper chamber
> votes whether to proceed on that debate in yet another hurdle for
> backers of a comprehensive overhaul.
>
> Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.) offered the resolution in a closed-door
> meeting of Republican House members on Tuesday morning, surprising
> many of the lawmakers present.
>
> Leaders were eventually forced to postpone an internal vote because
> not enough members were in attendance, but they are expected to
> address the question later this afternoon when more lawmakers can show
> up.
>
> "Clearly, many of our members have problems with the Senate bill,"
> said Republican Whip Roy Blunt of Missouri, the top GOP vote-counter
> in the House.
>
> The resolution is a largely symbolic measure, but would signal
> widespread displeasure of the Senate bill just as that chamber revives
> debate on the controversial issue, creating an additional roadblock to
> dissuade wavering Republicans.
>
> The single sentence reads: "Resolved, that the House Republican
> Conference disapproves of the Senate immigration bill."
>
> House Minority Leader John Boehner of Ohio notified an angry White
> House shortly before Hoekstra introduced the measure, the Republican
> leader said, adding, "I won't say they were happy about it."
>
> Republicans overwhelmingly defeated a motion offered by Rep. Ray
> LaHood (R-Ill.) to ditch consideration of the measure. The 83-28 vote
> to defeat that motion suggests a broad majority of GOP lawmakers will
> side with Hoekstra.
>
> "A growing majority of House Republicans are uncomfortable with the
> product and process of the Senate immigration bill," Hoekstra said in
> a statement. "A public hearing has never been held on it, and it was
> crafted in secret by only 12 senators and two cabinet officials."
>
> The Michigan Republican expects his resolution to pass.
>
> LaHood, who has been tapped to corral Republican votes for the
> comprehensive overhaul, then forced leaders to postpone consideration
> by pointing out that not enough members were present.
>
> Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), an outspoken backer of comprehensive reform
> whose bill is the model for House legislation, called the Hoekstra
> resolution premature since the Senate has not yet voted whether to
> proceed on the legislation. "I don't think it's very good form," Flake
> said.
>
> Other members were upset that leadership failed to warn them in
> advance that Hoekstra planned to offer his resolution.
>
> House Republicans are tentatively expected to reconvene at 6 p.m.
> Meanwhile, the Senate is expected to vote on whether to proceed early
> this afternoon.
>
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Racism and secrecy always go hand in hand.

Add Alcibiades (a confessed and avowed racist) to the mix and you
have:

"The Perfect Racism"

-Ramon

 

[Doug]

Are you referring to the previous closed room meetings between key senators
and La Raza? Is that the "secrecy" you're referring to?

"Ramon F Herrera" <goposter@jonjay.com> wrote in message
news:1182880201.978633.173060@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> Racism and secrecy always go hand in hand.
>
> Add Alcibiades (a confessed and avowed racist) to the mix and you
> have:
>
> "The Perfect Racism"
>
> -Ramon
>
>
>

 

[Drunken Walmart Greeter]

On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:19:06 GMT, "Doug" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:

>Are you referring to the previous closed room meetings between key senators
>and La Raza? Is that the "secrecy" you're referring to?

Thanks, but I'd prefer that friends didn't respond to ramon or other
trolls who respond posts I make. Of course his "points" are absurd;
they aren't bona fide points, they are troll bait. I can't make people
use their killfiles and send the clowns into the vapor, but I don't
wish to see them myself, the signal-to-noise ratio is tedious enough
as it is in political forums.

 

[Ramon F Herrera]

On Jun 26, 2:19 pm, "Doug" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> Are you referring to the previous closed room meetings
> between key senators and La Raza? Is that the "secrecy"
> you're referring to?
>

Dunno. I guess they have their congressional procedures. There are
closed door meetings and then everybody is informed. One thing is
"close door" and another thing is "secret".

Anywho...

Why don't you ask your "friend" (God, I wouldn't wish that to
anybody), Alcibiades whether he is racist or not?

Ask him whether he said or not:

"If we are going to have racists, they better be of the white race,
you know what I mean?"

Just Google under many of his aliases:

- Alcibiades
- Hoy Paloy
- Steely from Yokohama
- Corporate Jesus
- Walmart Greeter
- Drunken Walmart Greeter

and read for yourself. You don't have to believe me. You will be
simply speechless at the level of racism and hate suffered by this
individual.

He has written things against his own wife, who is an Indian, saying
that people who have lived with "them" (inferior people of all kinds)
know them better than anybody else.

Your newfound friend wants to close all immigration to the us. He
prefers that jobs are taken overseas, even if Americans are left
unemployed and the economy suffers: all that is irrelevant, as long as
they don't bring people from India, China (much less Latin America!)
to his neighborhood.

This guy, "Alcibiades", is actually Greek, but he tells everybody that
he is nordic blue eyed blond, even posting a drawing from some
magazine.

It should not be a surprise that even his wife couldn't take him
anymore and divorced him. Good riddance, Mrs. Yokohama!

-Ramon

 

[Doug]

So, you're a hypocrite and a racist?

You're argument(I'm being generous here) that "closed door" does not
constitute being "secret" is just so much merde.

Fortunately for me, you don't pick my friends.

"Ramon F Herrera" <ramon@conexus.net> wrote in message
news:1182893930.332756.10370@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 26, 2:19 pm, "Doug" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> Are you referring to the previous closed room meetings
>> between key senators and La Raza? Is that the "secrecy"
>> you're referring to?
>>
>
> Dunno. I guess they have their congressional procedures. There are
> closed door meetings and then everybody is informed. One thing is
> "close door" and another thing is "secret".
>
> Anywho...
>
> Why don't you ask your "friend" (God, I wouldn't wish that to
> anybody), Alcibiades whether he is racist or not?
>
> Ask him whether he said or not:
>
> "If we are going to have racists, they better be of the white race,
> you know what I mean?"
>
> Just Google under many of his aliases:
>
> - Alcibiades
> - Hoy Paloy
> - Steely from Yokohama
> - Corporate Jesus
> - Walmart Greeter
> - Drunken Walmart Greeter
>
> and read for yourself. You don't have to believe me. You will be
> simply speechless at the level of racism and hate suffered by this
> individual.
>
> He has written things against his own wife, who is an Indian, saying
> that people who have lived with "them" (inferior people of all kinds)
> know them better than anybody else.
>
> Your newfound friend wants to close all immigration to the us. He
> prefers that jobs are taken overseas, even if Americans are left
> unemployed and the economy suffers: all that is irrelevant, as long as
> they don't bring people from India, China (much less Latin America!)
> to his neighborhood.
>
> This guy, "Alcibiades", is actually Greek, but he tells everybody that
> he is nordic blue eyed blond, even posting a drawing from some
> magazine.
>
> It should not be a surprise that even his wife couldn't take him
> anymore and divorced him. Good riddance, Mrs. Yokohama!
>
> -Ramon
>
>

 

[Ramon F Herrera]

On Jun 27, 12:09 pm, "Doug" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> So, you're a hypocrite and a racist?
>
> You're argument(I'm being generous here) that "closed door"
> does not constitute being "secret" is just so much merde.

Oh? vous parlez Francais, aussi? (in Spanish, we say: "mierda")

>
> Fortunately for me, you don't pick my friends.


Well, Alcibiades has been telling everyone that you are his friend.

-Ramon

 

[Doug]

Nothing like throwing out red herrings. Si usted entienda.

"Ramon F Herrera" <ramon@conexus.net> wrote in message
news:1182985855.969492.71400@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 27, 12:09 pm, "Doug" <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> So, you're a hypocrite and a racist?
>>
>> You're argument(I'm being generous here) that "closed door"
>> does not constitute being "secret" is just so much merde.
>
> Oh? vous parlez Francais, aussi? (in Spanish, we say: "mierda")
>
> >
> > Fortunately for me, you don't pick my friends.
>
>
> Well, Alcibiades has been telling everyone that you are his friend.
>
> -Ramon
>
>