Re: Remember Cindy Sheehan?

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In article <MMudnSMNmq4hYZHbnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@giganews.com>, weberm@polaris.net
wrote:
>gzuckier@snail-mail.net wrote:
>>Ubiquitous wrote:


>>> Remember Cindy Sheehan? Neither does anyone else,

>>
>>Cept you.

>
>Ironic how after all her ranting about being censored that she suddenly
>vanished after turned on the Democrats, is it not?


Back in January, we noted that Democrats, having won majorities in Congress
last November, seemed to have cooled to their onetime sweetheart Cindy
Sheehan, as had their allies in the media. Now it looks as though the breakup
is complete. In a Memorial Day posting to DailyKos.com, Sheehan writes:

The conclusions that I have slowly and very reluctantly
come to are very heartbreaking to me.

The first conclusion is that I was the darling of the so-called
left as long as I limited my protests to George Bush and the
Republican Party... However, when I started to hold the
Democratic Party to the same standards that I held the Republican
Party, support for my cause started to erode and the "left"
started labeling me with the same slurs that the right used. I
guess no one paid attention to me when I said that the issue
of peace and people dying for no reason is not a matter of
"right or left", but "right and wrong." . . .

I have also reached the conclusion that if I am doing what I
am doing because I am an "attention whore" then I really need
to be committed. I have invested everything I have into trying
to bring peace with justice to a country that wants neither...

The most devastating conclusion that I reached this morning,
however, was that Casey did indeed die for nothing.

In an effort to maintain some shred of dignity, Sheehan presents herself as
the one doing the dumping:

I am going to take whatever I have left and go home. I am
going to go home and be a mother to my surviving children and
try to regain some of what I have lost. I will try to maintain
and nurture some very positive relationships that I have found
in the journey that I was forced into when Casey died and try
to repair some of the ones that have fallen apart since I began
this single-minded crusade to try and change a paradigm that is
now, I am afraid, carved in immovable, unbendable and rigidly
mendacious marble. . . .

This is my resignation letter as the "face" of the American
anti-war movement... Good-bye America...you are not the
country that I love and I finally realized no matter how
much I sacrifice, I can't make you be that country unless you
want it.

We have no ideological sympathy for Sheehan, who espouses noxious and hateful
anti-American ideas. At a human level, however, we are appalled by the way in
which the left and the media exploited this obviously troubled woman, falsely
presenting her as a sainted everymom, then discarding her when she ceased to
be of use to them.

"I've been wondering why I'm killing myself," Sheehan tells the Associated
Press. "I'm going home for awhile to try and be normal." We hope that she gets
whatever help she needs toward that end.


--
"Over the summer I had a hysterectomy, and um, I got my "parts" back. I
thought I could just [inaudible] on eBay, you know, "[inaudible] Cindy
Sheehan's uterus." And so I planted it in the garden where the bush, it's
a pretty bush. . . . It's so funny 'cause me and my children, we'll
always be a part of, of Crawford, Texas. Long after people forgot the
horror of the Bush regime, long after, you know, we're forgotten. We'll
always, our DNA will always be in the land."
--Cindy Sheehan, moral and intellectual leader of the Angry Left
 
gzuckier@snail-mail.net wrote:
>On May 31, 6:53 am, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:


>> Back in January, we noted that Democrats, having won majorities in Congress
>> last November, seemed to have cooled to their onetime sweetheart Cindy
>> Sheehan, as had their allies in the media. Now it looks as though the
>> breakup is complete. In a Memorial Day posting to DailyKos.com, Sheehan
>> writes:

>
>Hey, weren't you just telling us a thread ago about how all the
>"leftists" have no internal differences of opinion?


I never said there were zero differences of opinion, but for a group that
likes to accuse others of groupthink and the "politics of personal
destruction", they sure engage in it more than anyone else...

Anyway, here's some news from the Associated Press:

Cindy Sheehan, the soldier's mother who galvanized the anti-war
movement, said Sunday that she plans to seek House Speaker Nancy
Pelosi's congressional seat unless she introduces articles of
impeachment against President Bush in the next two weeks.

Sheehan said she will run against the San Francisco Democrat in
2008 as an independent if Pelosi does not seek by July 23 to
impeach Bush. That's when Sheehan and her supporters are to
arrive in Washington, D.C., after a 13-day caravan and walking
tour starting next week from the group's war protest site near
Bush's Crawford ranch.

Uh, didn't Sheehan resign from "peace" activism a few weeks back? Oh well,
fickle she may be, but this should be an exciting political contest, a real
clash of titans: the speaker vs. the crazy lady who won't shut up.

--
"Over the summer I had a hysterectomy, and um, I got my "parts" back. I
thought I could just [inaudible] on eBay, you know, "[inaudible] Cindy
Sheehan's uterus." And so I planted it in the garden where the bush, it's
a pretty bush. . . . It's so funny 'cause me and my children, we'll
always be a part of, of Crawford, Texas. Long after people forgot the
horror of the Bush regime, long after, you know, we're forgotten. We'll
always, our DNA will always be in the land."
--Cindy Sheehan, moral and intellectual leader of the Angry Left
 
Ubiquitous wrote:

>
> Uh, didn't Sheehan resign from "peace" activism a few weeks back? Oh
> well, fickle she may be, but this should be an exciting political
> contest, a real clash of titans: the speaker vs. the crazy lady who
> won't shut up.
>




Peace activism is not the same as direct political campaigning.

This election will be a clash of titans - a public speaker
(Sheehan) -vs- the crazy lady (Pelosi aka institutionalized
corruption).
 
"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in message
news:qOqdnc9bDvxu7gTbnZ2dnUVZ_qPinZ2d@giganews.com...
> gzuckier@snail-mail.net wrote:
>>On May 31, 6:53 am, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

>
>>> Back in January, we noted that Democrats, having won majorities in
>>> Congress
>>> last November, seemed to have cooled to their onetime sweetheart Cindy
>>> Sheehan, as had their allies in the media. Now it looks as though the
>>> breakup is complete. In a Memorial Day posting to DailyKos.com, Sheehan
>>> writes:

>>
>>Hey, weren't you just telling us a thread ago about how all the
>>"leftists" have no internal differences of opinion?

>
> I never said there were zero differences of opinion, but for a group that
> likes to accuse others of groupthink and the "politics of personal
> destruction", they sure engage in it more than anyone else...
>
> Anyway, here's some news from the Associated Press:
>
> Cindy Sheehan, the soldier's mother who galvanized the anti-war
> movement, said Sunday that she plans to seek House Speaker Nancy
> Pelosi's congressional seat unless she introduces articles of
> impeachment against President Bush in the next two weeks.
>
> Sheehan said she will run against the San Francisco Democrat in
> 2008 as an independent if Pelosi does not seek by July 23 to
> impeach Bush. That's when Sheehan and her supporters are to
> arrive in Washington, D.C., after a 13-day caravan and walking
> tour starting next week from the group's war protest site near
> Bush's Crawford ranch.
>
> Uh, didn't Sheehan resign from "peace" activism a few weeks back? Oh well,
> fickle she may be, but this should be an exciting political contest, a
> real
> clash of titans: the speaker vs. the crazy lady who won't shut up.
>
> --
> "Over the summer I had a hysterectomy, and um, I got my "parts" back. I
> thought I could just [inaudible] on eBay, you know, "[inaudible] Cindy
> Sheehan's uterus." And so I planted it in the garden where the bush, it's
> a pretty bush. . . . It's so funny 'cause me and my children, we'll
> always be a part of, of Crawford, Texas. Long after people forgot the
> horror of the Bush regime, long after, you know, we're forgotten. We'll
> always, our DNA will always be in the land."
> --Cindy Sheehan, moral and intellectual leader of the Angry Left
>
>


Cindy Sheehan is doing exactly what our founding fathers would have done.
She's going up against the King (so to speak), just as they did.
You refer to her as "the crazy lady who won't shut up." Imagine if the
founding fathers didn't shut up.
If you're a true American, you can appreciate that.
Perhaps you're just a little envious of her tenacity.
 
In article <cKmdnbdpJYNAEATbnZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d@trueband.net>,
"JHR" <BadEnergyPolicy@USA.com> wrote:


> Cindy Sheehan is doing exactly what our founding fathers would have done.




Nope, they didn't piss up ropes, or shovel **** against the tide, or
make fools of themselves.
 
On Jul 14, 9:01 pm, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> gzuck...@snail-mail.net wrote:
> >On May 31, 6:53 am, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> >> Back in January, we noted that Democrats, having won majorities in Congress
> >> last November, seemed to have cooled to their onetime sweetheart Cindy
> >> Sheehan, as had their allies in the media. Now it looks as though the
> >> breakup is complete. In a Memorial Day posting to DailyKos.com, Sheehan
> >> writes:

>
> >Hey, weren't you just telling us a thread ago about how all the
> >"leftists" have no internal differences of opinion?

>
> I never said there were zero differences of opinion, but for a group that
> likes to accuse others of groupthink and the "politics of personal
> destruction", they sure engage in it more than anyone else...
>
> Anyway, here's some news from the Associated Press:
>
> Cindy Sheehan, the soldier's mother who galvanized the anti-war
> movement, said Sunday that she plans to seek House Speaker Nancy
> Pelosi's congressional seat unless she introduces articles of
> impeachment against President Bush in the next two weeks.
>
> Sheehan said she will run against the San Francisco Democrat in
> 2008 as an independent if Pelosi does not seek by July 23 to
> impeach Bush. That's when Sheehan and her supporters are to
> arrive in Washington, D.C., after a 13-day caravan and walking
> tour starting next week from the group's war protest site near
> Bush's Crawford ranch.
>
> Uh, didn't Sheehan resign from "peace" activism a few weeks back? Oh well,
> fickle she may be, but this should be an exciting political contest, a real
> clash of titans: the speaker vs. the crazy lady who won't shut up.


so you're posting this as more evidence of leftwing groupthink? huh?
 
BenTurner@notvalid.address wrote:
>Ubiquitous wrote:


>> Uh, didn't Sheehan resign from "peace" activism a few weeks back? Oh
>> well, fickle she may be, but this should be an exciting political
>> contest, a real clash of titans: the speaker vs. the crazy lady who
>> won't shut up.

>
>Peace activism is not the same as direct political campaigning.
>
>This election will be a clash of titans - a public speaker
>(Sheehan) -vs- the crazy lady (Pelosi aka institutionalized
>corruption).


San Francisco is not like the rest of America, as Bloomberg reports:

Mayor Gavin Newsom is running for re-election virtually
unopposed, more popular than ever, after admitting to having
an affair with a top aide's wife and entering an alcohol-treatment
program.

Newsom, whose approval ratings are running close to 80 percent,
said he expects a credible candidate to emerge eventually. So
far, challengers include a street-performing clown, a homeless
man, an advocate for nudism, and a candidate who pledges to wear
a camera so voters can monitor his performance in office.

This is the city that elects Rep. Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the House.
Incidentally, Pelosi challenger Cindy Sheehan reports that she has been
declared moonbatta non grata at the Daily Kos:

I can't post here anymore because my potential run for Congress
is not on the Democratic ticket.

I have been deeply grateful for all of your support over the years.
Your love and kindness helped me through lots of sleepless nights at
Camp Casey '05.

If Speaker Pelosi does her constitutionally mandated duty and I
don't run, then I can come back and post.

I know a lot of you are hostile towards my candidacy. Please
understand that I am doing it for your children and grandchildren
(and my surviving ones.)

If Sheehan makes good on her promise to move to San Francisco, will that city
become more bizarre or less bizarre? There is really no easy answer.

--
"Over the summer I had a hysterectomy, and um, I got my "parts" back. I
thought I could just [inaudible] on eBay, you know, "[inaudible] Cindy
Sheehan's uterus." And so I planted it in the garden where the bush, it's
a pretty bush. . . . It's so funny 'cause me and my children, we'll
always be a part of, of Crawford, Texas. Long after people forgot the
horror of the Bush regime, long after, you know, we're forgotten. We'll
always, our DNA will always be in the land."
--Cindy Sheehan, moral and intellectual leader of the Angry Left
 
On Jul 17, 8:22 am, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:

> This is the city that elects Rep. Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the House.


Actually, the House of Representatives elected her Speaker.

> Incidentally, Pelosi challenger Cindy Sheehan reports that she has been
> declared moonbatta non grata at the Daily Kos:
>
> I can't post here anymore because my potential run for Congress
> is not on the Democratic ticket.
>

Well, I believe she didn't get that quite right. She can post on
DailyKos but not use it as a platform for her campaign against Pelosi.
The rationalization is that it's not a place for Democratic primary
candidates to attack each other. Of course that didn't apply when Joe
Lieberman was the target.

> If Sheehan makes good on her promise to move to San Francisco, will that city
> become more bizarre or less bizarre? There is really no easy answer.


As compared with, say, Sen. David Vitter, moving there, diapers and
all? This is your kind of straight person, right? How about his wife
threatening to cut his **** off if she caught him cheating? The family
values party triumphs again. Of course she didn't follow through, the
wimpy little flip-flopper.


> "Over the summer I had a hysterectomy, and um, I got my "parts" back. I
> thought I could just [inaudible] on eBay, you know, "[inaudible] Cindy
> Sheehan's uterus." And so I planted it in the garden where the bush, it's
> a pretty bush. . . . It's so funny 'cause me and my children, we'll
> always be a part of, of Crawford, Texas. Long after people forgot the
> horror of the Bush regime, long after, you know, we're forgotten. We'll
> always, our DNA will always be in the land."
> --Cindy Sheehan, moral and intellectual leader of the Angry Left


I think it's a really sweet gesture. Think of how nice it would be if
Mrs. Vitter planted her husband's private parts right along side
Cindy's.
 
Rush Limbaugh now has that story mentioning Cindy Sheehan's 'War for
Israel' 'Nightline' email in it:

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_071907/content/01125110.guest.html

Here is a tiny URL for the above one:

http://tinyurl.com/yw67ue

http://nomorewarforisrael.blogspot.com

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Cindy Sheehan Hammered hard in UK Guardian piece

A friend sent me a link from the Guardian newspaper in the UK which
included the Christopher Hitchens' (www.slate.com) piece (by his
researcher) about the 'Nightline' email situation with Cindy Sheehan..

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/niall_stanage/2007/07/the_epic_narcissism_of_cindy_s.html

Here is a tinyurl for the above one:

http://tinyurl.com/2umfyk

Additional at following URL as well:

http://www.rightwingnews.com/mt331/2007/07/the_trashing_of_cindy_sheehan.php

Here is the tinyurl for the above one:

http://tinyurl.com/2wx7c5

Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 01:51:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: For Karen Houppert/Cindy Sheehan

Dear Ms. Houppert,

Please consider doing a piece about how disingenuous Cindy Sheehan is
being when Chris Matthews (of MSNBC's 'Hardball' broadcast) asked her
what she thought the motivation was for the Iraq war and Cindy put
forth the 'for profit' motive when she wrote that it was for a PNAC
Neocon agenda to benefit Israel in that ABC 'Nightline' email that was
sent on her behalf to the producers at 'Nightline' per her request to
do so (simply do a yahoo.com, Google.com or similar search to see the
Wikipedia write-up about Cindy which mentions my name there as well..)
as I just saw your piece for 'The Nation' as well via the following
URL:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060612/houppert/5

There is war profiteering in most wars, but such wasn't the primary
motivation for Iraq. Securing the realm for Israel in accordance with
the 'A Clean Break' was (again, one can read about the 'A Clean Break'
from Bamford's 'A Pretext for War' book via the following URL):

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=28769


Here are two URLs (take a look at the 'Hardball' transcript below
which includes the interview that Cindy did with Chris Matthews
yesterday):

http://www.slate.com/id/2124788/sidebar/2124791/

http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2005/08/cindy-sheehan-mother-of-spc-casey.html
Here is a tiny URL for the above one:
http://tinyurl.com/dga3w



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19830397/

Well, Cindy Sheehan is an anti-war activist, probably the most
famous. Her son, Casey, was killed during his service in the Iraq
war. She's currently on a 17-city, two-and-a-half-week tour called
"Journey for Humanity," protesting against President Bush and actually
calling for his impeachment. Cindy Sheehan joins us now from
Charlotte, North Carolina. Thank you very much for joining us, Cindy
Sheehan.
CINDY SHEEHAN, SON DIED IN IRAQ: Hi, Chris. Thank you.
MATTHEWS: Thank you. Well, let me ask you about impeachment. What
are the grounds? I mean, imagine you're a member calling for
impeachment on the floor of the Senate, or conviction. What would you
say?
SHEEHAN: Well, I would say the lies and the deceptions that led to an
illegal and immoral occupation of Iraq, that has led to the deaths of
hundreds of thousands of people, I would say breaking the FISA laws by
spying on Americans without warrants that George Bush admitted to, I
would say the inadequate and tragic response to Katrina. I would say
for authorizing torture. I would say for authorizing consolidating
executive power, all the power in one branch. And I think there are
many grounds that impeachment could be started on.
MATTHEWS: Do you believe that we have waged an aggressive war in
Iraq?
SHEEHAN: Well, I think that it was illegal and immoral. There were
no weapons of mass destructions. There was no connection between
Saddam and 9/11, and all evidence has shown, especially this week,
that what we're doing is strengthening al Qaeda and strengthening
hatred against us for occupying the country and destroying a country
that was no threat to us.
MATTHEWS: Why do you think President Bush, Vice President Cheney,
Paul Wolfowitz, the other hawks in this administration-why do you
think they took us to war?
SHEEHAN: Well, I think it was a lot to do with oil. It was a lot to
do with destabilizing that region, which they have done very
thoroughly. The Iraqi refugee crisis has made the entire region
compromised there. And I think it was for profit. I mean, it's for
Halliburton. It's for Blackwater. It's for Standard Oil. It's for
the war profiteers. And that's why war is usually waged.
MATTHEWS: You believe that this was-this war was fought because
people in the White House decided to make some money for their pals in
business? You really believe that?
SHEEHAN: I believe that that...
MATTHEWS: That they sent...
(CROSSTALK)
MATTHEWS: That they sent 3,600 Americans to their death and 20,000-
some losing their arms and legs and killed another 100,000 Arabs so
that they could get richer?
SHEEHAN: As Major General Smedley Butler said, War is a racket. It
always has been, and it always will be. And I believe that that's one
of the reasons. It's what Dwight Eisenhower warned us of when he left
office, the military-industrial complex.
MATTHEWS: Yes, but he was warning us about people like Kennedy and
Rockefeller, who wanted to spend more money on the budget on defense
spending. But was he warning us about...
SHEEHAN: Well, if we don't...
MATTHEWS: ... war profiteering...
SHEEHAN: Well, if we don't...
MATTHEWS: Do you really believe that Cheney...
SHEEHAN: Absolutely. Absolutely.
MATTHEWS: OK.
SHEEHAN: Cheney, and he was the CEO of Halliburton that got the no-
bid contracts.
MATTHEWS: Right.
SHEEHAN: And it is for strengthening the military-industrial complex,
because they can't build more bombs and tanks and guns if we don't use
them, if we don't deplete them. And that's one of the major reasons
for it. And also, it's for controlling the natural resources. And if
it's not for that, what was it for, Chris? It wasn't for...
MATTHEWS: That's what I'm asking.
SHEEHAN: It wasn't for terrorism because it's just made terrorism
worse. And al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq before we invade.
MATTHEWS: Do you think that Cheney and the president are guilty of
war crimes?
SHEEHAN: Absolutely, for authorizing torture, which is against the
Geneva Conventions and against our own 8th Amendment, and for spying
on
Americans without due process, and for detaining human beings without
due
process, which is against
MATTHEWS: Why do you think the president commuted the sentence of his
former assistant for national security, Scooter Libby?
SHEEHAN: Well, Scooter Libby, the-one of the founders and promoters
of the Project for a New American Century-Scooter Libby-I think
Scooter Libby knows where a lot of the skeletons are buried, that's
for sure.
MATTHEWS: OK. Let me ask you about your plans because you've became
active again. You took kind of a breather, didn't you, for a while
there in the anti-war effort?
SHEEHAN: I took a very short, five-week retirement, but I feel rested
and ready to go, yes.
MATTHEWS: Now, you've talked about running against Nancy Pelosi. I'm
out here in San Francisco right now. It's very much an anti-war city,
as you know.
SHEEHAN: Yes. Yes.
MATTHEWS: Feverishly anti-war.
SHEEHAN: Yes.
MATTHEWS: Do you think you can actually take a nick out of her
support, Nancy Pelosi, if you ran against her for the House?
SHEEHAN: Well, I think that we could do very well there, and I've
already gotten just tremendous support from the city of San Francisco,
and really from people all over the country that are disgusted with
the two-party system, disgusted with the spinelessness of the
Democrats, who are-they want to close up their businesses and quit
their jobs and move to San Francisco to help me. And I think it's
going to be a real people's movement. And I think that we will have a
profound effect on the race there...
MATTHEWS: OK.
SHEEHAN: ... if not win it.
MATTHEWS: Let's imagine you're a member of Congress. How would you -
or you're speaker yourself. How would you actually end the war? What
parliamentary, legal moves would you make? These people up on the
Hill are putting their sleeping bags out. They got their cots out to,
all the theatrics.
SHEEHAN: Right.
MATTHEWS: And tomorrow morning, we'll still have a war. Do you have
an actual legislative plan to end the war, Cindy Sheehan?
SHEEHAN: They need to shut off George Bush's funds. They need to
appropriate enough money to bring our troops home, as General Odom
said, as quickly and safely as possible. And we need to appropriate
money for the people of Iraq and for our soldiers and our veterans, to
take care of them. But give him just enough money to bring the troops
home. That's what they have, they have the power of the purse
strings.
MATTHEWS: And what happens...
(CROSSTALK)
SHEEHAN: ... the power of the purse string.
MATTHEWS: Hey, Cindy, I sympathize with that point of view, but what
happens on the other side if you do that? If you do that, then the
other side, the president can say, can't he-the minute there's a
casualty out there, the minute there's a soldier that doesn't get his
weapons-his ammo when he needs it or his fire support or anything
breaks down out there, he'll say it's because the Democrats and the
anti-war people cut off the spending. That's why that soldier died.
What do you do then?
SHEEHAN: We need to appropriate enough money to bring them home,
and...
MATTHEWS: But he's not going to sign that bill.
SHEEHAN: They don't need...
MATTHEWS: You know he's not going to sign that bill!
SHEEHAN: Chris, it's not a bill, it's taking away his money.
Congress can do that. That's the only way that they can stop it.
MATTHEWS: Well, and then he can say...
SHEEHAN: It's not a bill.
MATTHEWS: Right. It's an appropriation. I know about how the Hill
works, Cindy.
SHEEHAN: Right.
MATTHEWS: I know all about it. You're right. The people who oppose
this war can write an appropriation bill. Nancy Pelosi's talked about
that on this show. And it says you can only spend this money to bring
the troops home. Then, the second step, the president vetoes that
bill and says, Send me a clean bill to support the troops. If the
Democrats don't do that, then he blames every calamity over there on
the Democrats, and you, the anti-war people.
SHEEHAN: Well, the Democrats have-the Democrats have not done a good
job of making this George Bush's war, George Bush's calamity. It has
been from the beginning...
MATTHEWS: Well...
SHEEHAN: ... and every death, every innocent Iraqi, every American
soldier is directly related to George Bush.
MATTHEWS: OK.
SHEEHAN: And when Congress gave him...
MATTHEWS: You know why?
SHEEHAN: When Congress gave...
MATTHEWS: You know why they failed?
SHEEHAN: ... him more money-when Congress gave him more money, they
made it their calamity.
MATTHEWS: You know why they failed? Because Chris Dodd, Joe Biden,
Hillary Clinton, Joe Lieberman, a whole batch of them, voted to
support and authorize this war...
SHEEHAN: I know.
MATTHEWS: ... on day one. They've never come back strong enough
against their positions.
SHEEHAN: I agree. I agree. And we need to support people who will
be courageous in supporting our troops, really supporting our troops
by bringing them home.
MATTHEWS: You know what? I like your passion. I'm very careful
about motive, though. Whenever you assign motives to the other side,
you're in a dangerous area because you don't know why they're
supporting this war. You just don't like the war, and that's fair
enough with me. Thank you very much, Cindy Sheehan.
SHEEHAN: Well, I-read "War Is a Racket," Chris.
MATTHEWS: You know, I read so much, but thank you for that
recommendation.
SHEEHAN: Thank you.
MATTHEWS: I'll get to it. Thank you. I mean it.





On Jul 10, 1:01 pm, "Harry Dope" <HHhatesAmer...@aol.com> wrote:
> SheehanLaunches Pelosi Challenge
>
> By PAUL J. WEBER
> Associated Press Writer
> CRAWFORD, Texas -CindySheehanbid farewell to her former "peace camp" near
> President Bush's ranch and began a nearly two-week trek Tuesday toward
> Washington, D.C., with her sights set on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
>
> Sheehan, a Californian, officially announced that she intends to run as an
> independent against Pelosi in 2008 if the San Francisco congresswoman
> doesn't move to impeach Bush by July 23, the day she expects to reach
> Washington.
>
> "I know what Californians care about,"Sheehansaid. "They don't care about
> the ruling power elite."
>
> Sheehanfirst told The Associated Press on Sunday about her plans to
> challenge the top-ranking Democrat. She made it official Tuesday at Camp
> Casey, named after her 24-year-old son, whose death in Iraq first ledSheehanto set up camp in Crawford in 2005 to demand a meeting with Bush,
> who was on vacation at the time.
>
> Pelosi spokesman Brendan Daly said Tuesday that Pelosi's "focus is on ending
> the war in Iraq."
>
> "She believes that the best way to support our troops in Iraq is to bring
> them home safely and soon," Daly wrote in an e-mail to The Associated Press.
> "Democrats will continue to hold the Bush Administration accountable by
> having votes in July to change course in Iraq; to responsibly redeploy our
> troops; and to refocus our effort on protecting Americans from terrorism."
>
> ButSheehansaid that's not enough.
>
> "You can't bring the troops home if you give George Bush $100 billion to
> wage this war," she said Tuesday. "You're not supporting them. You're
> keeping them in harm's way."
>
> Sheehansays Bush should be impeached because she believes he misled the
> public about the reasons for going to war, violated the Geneva Convention
> with the torture of detainees and crossed the line by commuting the prison
> sentence of former vice presidential aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby.
>
> After her announcement,Sheehanand about 20 anti-war protesters began their
> 13-day trip with a symbolic march to the edge of Crawford, where a billboard
> of Bush and first lady Laura Bush welcomes visitors.
>
> Sheehan, who turned 50 on Tuesday, stunned fellow anti-war activists in May
> by announcing that she would sell her 5-acre Crawford protest site. She said
> then that she felt her efforts had been in vain and that she had endured
> hatred and smear tactics from the left as well as from the right.
>
> --
> Eight years before 9/11, on Feb. 26, 1993, Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida
> terrorist network declared war against the United States with a deadly
> attack on the World Trade Center. Al-Qaida continued to wage war on the U.S.
> throughout the Clinton administration, attacking Khobar Towers in 1996, two
> U.S. embassies in East Africa in 1998, and the U.S.S. Cole in 2000.




On Jul 14, 6:01 pm, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> gzuck...@snail-mail.net wrote:
> >On May 31, 6:53 am, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> >> Back in January, we noted that Democrats, having won majorities in Congress
> >> last November, seemed to have cooled to their onetime sweetheartCindy
> >>Sheehan, as had their allies in the media. Now it looks as though the
> >> breakup is complete. In a Memorial Day posting to DailyKos.com,Sheehan
> >> writes:

>
> >Hey, weren't you just telling us a thread ago about how all the
> >"leftists" have no internal differences of opinion?

>
> I never said there were zero differences of opinion, but for a group that
> likes to accuse others of groupthink and the "politics of personal
> destruction", they sure engage in it more than anyone else...
>
> Anyway, here's some news from the Associated Press:
>
> CindySheehan, the soldier's mother who galvanized the anti-war
> movement, said Sunday that she plans to seek House Speaker Nancy
> Pelosi's congressional seat unless she introduces articles of
> impeachment against President Bush in the next two weeks.
>
> Sheehansaid she will run against the San Francisco Democrat in
> 2008 as an independent if Pelosi does not seek by July 23 to
> impeach Bush. That's whenSheehanand her supporters are to
> arrive in Washington, D.C., after a 13-day caravan and walking
> tour starting next week from the group's war protest site near
> Bush's Crawford ranch.
>
> Uh, didn'tSheehanresign from "peace" activism a few weeks back? Oh well,
> fickle she may be, but this should be an exciting political contest, a real
> clash of titans: the speaker vs. the crazy lady who won't shut up.
>
> --
> "Over the summer I had a hysterectomy, and um, I got my "parts" back. I
> thought I could just [inaudible] on eBay, you know, "[inaudible]CindySheehan'suterus." And so I planted it in the garden where the bush, it's
> a pretty bush. . . . It's so funny 'cause me and my children, we'll
> always be a part of, of Crawford, Texas. Long after people forgot the
> horror of the Bush regime, long after, you know, we're forgotten. We'll
> always, our DNA will always be in the land."
> --CindySheehan, moral and intellectual leader of the Angry Left
 
Cindy Sheehan is a lying fraud who didn't have the courage to stand
behind what she had so accurately written:

http://www.slate.com/id/2124788/sidebar/2124791/

The above piece was linked in the following commentary for the UK
Guardian:

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/niall_stanage/2007/07/the_epic_narcissism_of_cindy_s.html

Here is a blog entry which just came out by the co-writer of the book
about Cindy as it conveyed how disingenuous Cindy was on MSNBC's
'Hardball' broadcast recently:

http://www.moveamericaforward.org/i...eehan_gathering_of_eagles_patriots_are_nazis/


Here is a tinyURL for the above one:

http://tinyurl.com/35wjq5


Rush Limbaugh now has that story mentioning Cindy Sheehan's 'War for
Israel' 'Nightline' email in it:

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_071907/content/01125110.guest.html

Here is a tiny URL for the above one:

http://tinyurl.com/yw67ue

http://thomhartmann.org/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2051097651/m/5511034862


http://nomorewarforisrael.blogspot.com
 
http://www.forward.com/articles/2144/

Anti-war Double Talk

Cindy Sheehan may say that she does not blame the death of her son on
Israel, but you are judged by the friends you keep ("Anti-war Activist
Addresses Congregation," October 14). She is a close associate of Ray
McGovern, a former CIA analyst and frequent supporter of Gold Star
Families for Peace whose agenda is to blame the war in Iraq on three
things: oil, Israel and logistics. She supports him and travels with
him, and should therefore be judged by the company she keeps with
him.
Sheehan is disingenuous and is speaking out of both sides of her
mouth.

Allyson Rowen Taylor
Associate Director
American Jewish Congress, Western Region
Santa Monica, Calif.

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Cindy Sheehan didn't have the courage to stand behind what she had so
accurately written:
http://www.slate.com/id/2124788/sidebar/2124791/

The above piece was linked in the following commentary for the UK
Guardian:

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/niall_stanage/2007/07/the_epic_narcissism_of_cindy_s.html

http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2005/08/cindy-sheehan-mother-of-spc-casey.html

Here is a blog entry which just came out by the co-writer of the book
about Cindy as it conveyed how disingenuous Cindy was on MSNBC's
'Hardball' broadcast recently:

http://www.moveamericaforward.org/i...eehan_gathering_of_eagles_patriots_are_nazis/

Here is a tinyURL for the above one:

http://tinyurl.com/35wjq5

Rush Limbaugh now has that story mentioning Cindy Sheehan's 'War for
Israel' 'Nightline' email in it:

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_071907/content/01125110.guest.html

Here is a tiny URL for the above one:

http://tinyurl.com/yw67ue

http://thomhartmann.org/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2051097651/m/5511034862


http://nomorewarforisrael.blogspot.com

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Cindy Sheehan/'Nightline' email situation mentioned in UK Guardian
piece
A friend sent me a link from the Guardian newspaper in the UK which
included the Christopher Hitchens' (www.slate.com) piece (by his
researcher) about the 'Nightline' email situation with Cindy
Sheehan..

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/niall_stanage/2007/07/the_epic_narcissism_of_cindy_s.html

Here is a tinyurl for the above one:

http://tinyurl.com/2umfyk

Additional at following URL as well:

http://www.rightwingnews.com/mt331/2007/07/the_trashing_of_cindy_sheehan.php

Here is the tinyurl for the above one:

http://tinyurl.com/2wx7c5
 
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