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:cool: NOTE: I used this in another post and I liked it so much that I decided to make it a separate topic. What are your thoughts on this topic?

 

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I've said it before, I'll say it now, and I'll say it again in the future, more than once I'm sure: the most inhuman crimes against humanity have been committed by humans carrying the standards of their religions, believing that they were committing their acts in the service of their deity, or hiding their own personal desires for power or gratification - sexual or otherwise - under the cover of same religion.

 

Religion has become a way not of bringing a moral base to the masses, not a system of beliefs by which human beings may achieve a greater sense of community, but rather a way for a few people to exercise power over a mass of others irrespective of national borders.

 

One doesn't need to gain control over the masses by lines drawn on a map, but rather by herding the weak into a psychological corral based on religious dogma, playing to their basest need for validity for their existence as a part of a greater scheme in an effort to control them into doing your will. Once said sheep are in said corral, the religious sheepherders can bugger the flock to their hearts' content, all the while deluding themselves and the flock that it's for the good of the whole.

 

When the truth comes to light, they use their position as "God's servant" as a shield to deflect the punishment that the flock would have received for the same crimes, because after all, they were God's servants.

 

Yes, it's true - I hate all religions. Every single one of them. However, I support your right to believe as you wish but not to force it upon others in any way.

 

Personally, in my eye, preaching anywhere outside of the confines of your church building should be illegal.:cool:

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I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness.

 

 

 

 

:eek: WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? :eek:

 

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Thank God for religious people since most of the secular humanists are fucking liberals. The root of all evil is lazy people who can't earn a living on their own stealing the property of others. Sadly, the biggest thief we have is the federal government.

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

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Oh brother...well at least hugo is consistent if nothing more.

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I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness.

 

 

 

 

:eek: WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? :eek:

 

www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/

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:cool: NOTE: I used this in another post and I liked it so much that I decided to make it a separate topic. What are your thoughts on this topic?

 

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I've said it before, I'll say it now, and I'll say it again in the future, more than once I'm sure: the most inhuman crimes against humanity have been committed by humans carrying the standards of their religions, believing that they were committing their acts in the service of their deity, or hiding their own personal desires for power or gratification - sexual or otherwise - under the cover of same religion.

 

Religion has become a way not of bringing a moral base to the masses, not a system of beliefs by which human beings may achieve a greater sense of community, but rather a way for a few people to exercise power over a mass of others irrespective of national borders.

 

One doesn't need to gain control over the masses by lines drawn on a map, but rather by herding the weak into a psychological corral based on religious dogma, playing to their basest need for validity for their existence as a part of a greater scheme in an effort to control them into doing your will. Once said sheep are in said corral, the religious sheepherders can bugger the flock to their hearts' content, all the while deluding themselves and the flock that it's for the good of the whole.

 

When the truth comes to light, they use their position as "God's servant" as a shield to deflect the punishment that the flock would have received for the same crimes, because after all, they were God's servants.

 

Yes, it's true - I hate all religions. Every single one of them. However, I support your right to believe as you wish but not to force it upon others in any way.

 

Personally, in my eye, preaching anywhere outside of the confines of your church building should be illegal.:cool:

 

 

FUCKING RIGHT!!

 

Religion is a load of propaganda spewed forth by self righteous morally superior bigots. Plain and simple.

 

Not to mention it's also a crutch for people who can't form their own morals and beliefs and give an explanation for them. (IE: such and such is wrong because god said so). If you're going to say something is absolutely wrong or right, come up with a coherent, thought out and rational reason on why it would be wrong or right. Guess it's safe to say that BIBLE THUMPERS ARE IDIOTS

 

Now I don't care if someone wants to be a morally uptight bigot, but YOU HAD BETTER RESPECT MY RIGHT TO NOT BE ONE.

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:cool: NOTE: I used this in another post and I liked it so much that I decided to make it a separate topic. What are your thoughts on this topic?

 

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I've said it before, I'll say it now, and I'll say it again in the future, more than once I'm sure: the most inhuman crimes against humanity have been committed by humans carrying the standards of their religions, believing that they were committing their acts in the service of their deity, or hiding their own personal desires for power or gratification - sexual or otherwise - under the cover of same religion.

 

Religion has become a way not of bringing a moral base to the masses, not a system of beliefs by which human beings may achieve a greater sense of community, but rather a way for a few people to exercise power over a mass of others irrespective of national borders.

 

One doesn't need to gain control over the masses by lines drawn on a map, but rather by herding the weak into a psychological corral based on religious dogma, playing to their basest need for validity for their existence as a part of a greater scheme in an effort to control them into doing your will. Once said sheep are in said corral, the religious sheepherders can bugger the flock to their hearts' content, all the while deluding themselves and the flock that it's for the good of the whole.

 

When the truth comes to light, they use their position as "God's servant" as a shield to deflect the punishment that the flock would have received for the same crimes, because after all, they were God's servants.

 

Yes, it's true - I hate all religions. Every single one of them. However, I support your right to believe as you wish but not to force it upon others in any way.

 

Personally, in my eye, preaching anywhere outside of the confines of your church building should be illegal.:cool:

 

You got mad because some body was preaching something on another thread. What do you think you're doing?

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You got mad because some body was preaching something on another thread. What do you think you're doing?

 

He has the right to. LMAO

 

You have depth, but only on the surface. Down deep inside, you are shallow.

Don't get insulted, but is your job devoted to spreading ignorance?

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I agree religion is the root and cause of all of humanities problems and those who disagree please go read some unaldulterated history and FFS don't quote the bible as truth.

On a personal note, I do believe in god, but its nothing like what is represented in the bibles of the world. People who follow religion are slaves, they are slaves because of there own fear of there impending death, it is our own fear of mortality that makes us slaves and drives so many to the lies and bullshit that is religion.

 

Religion does not mean you believe in god and a belief in god does not mean you are religious.

Religion is a cult, it control it followers, dulls there minds and when you dare say anything against there precious little belief structures they attack.

I would like to think humanity will someday over come there dependency on this fallocentric way of thinking, but to be honest with you I doubt it, not unless something monumental happens to evolve humanities thinking.

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Quite frankly, most religions were created to control people in the first place. Like a substitiute for government. I for one am free of religion. I am bound by enough rules already, why do I need some old book and a "deity" to regulate my life?

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A:People are assholes B: People are religious. This does not mean B causes A.

 

Chimpanzees fight wars. They ain't particularly religious. Religion does make controlling the masses, to help the leaders pursue their worldly goals, much easier at times.

 

Religion is neither good or evil. It is a powerful force. People are good or evil.

 

If you want to find a bunch of closed minded idiots, all marching to the beat of the same drummer, go to http://www.infidels.org and check out the political forum.

 

The secular humanists goal of seperation of church and state seems honorable on the surface. Until you realize they keep expanding the state.

 

The Goomhanian religion, which I founded in 2001 and has grown 8 fold since then, has remained a peaceful religion. With the exception of one ugly incident when three of us went for the last two beers in the cooler.

 

If everyone had an oil well in their backyard 9/11 would never have happened.

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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I agree religion is the root and cause of all of humanities problems

 

What a fucking idiot.

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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You got mad because some body was preaching something on another thread. What do you think you're doing?

 

This is not preaching. It is expressing an OPINION.

 

Unlike you who preaches, I'm not telling anybody what GOD wants or feels or thinks of them or their behavior. I would never be so arrogant and obnoxious as you, nor think that I knew what a all powerful deity wanted.

 

Your such an Arrogant ass, now go back to your Country Pride Account.

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I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness.

 

 

 

 

:eek: WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? :eek:

 

www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/

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What a fucking idiot. (I am)

 

hugo...I've told you...it's not healthy for you to be so self-depricating. :eek:

 

Go and take your medicine and be a dear will you?

 

That's better.

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I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness.

 

 

 

 

:eek: WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? :eek:

 

www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/

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hugo...I've told you...it's not healthy for you to be so self-depricating. :eek:

 

Go and take your medicine and be a dear will you?

 

That's better.

 

Go back to worshipping Saint Karl.

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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Go back to worshipping Saint Karl.

 

hugo...he's not a Saint, he's a "Sir".

 

Sir Karl Raimund Popper, and he was a great great man indeed.

 

I'm amazed you even know anything about him. I would have thought that his ability to think was way outside of your ability to comprehend.

 

Live and learn.

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I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness.

 

 

 

 

:eek: WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? :eek:

 

www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/

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What a fucking idiot.

 

You are the idoit little one. Have a read of history and you will come to the same conclusion, religion is the clear link to the on going persiction of the human race, one of the main problems within the middle east is there religion, which keeps the people uneducated and controlled.

I feel sorry for you Hugo, you have my pitty, because you are a small narrow minded little man.

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hugo...he's not a Saint, he's a "Sir".

 

Sir Karl Raimund Popper, and he was a great great man indeed.

 

I'm amazed you even know anything about him. I would have thought that his ability to think was way outside of your ability to comprehend.

 

Live and learn.

 

If you would read the works of Popper's buddy, Hayek (no, not the actress for idiots like Quarky), you might become a true libertarian.

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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You are the idoit little one. Have a read of history and you will come to the same conclusion, religion is the clear link to the on going persiction of the human race, one of the main problems within the middle east is there religion, which keeps the people uneducated and controlled.

I feel sorry for you Hugo, you have my pitty, because you are a small narrow minded little man.

 

Is english your first language?

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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Is english your first language?

 

It's obviously not yours either. :eek:

 

"English" is capitalized you arrogant ass. :p

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I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness.

 

 

 

 

:eek: WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? :eek:

 

www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/

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If you would read the works of Popper's buddy, Hayek (no, not the actress for idiots like Quarky), you might become a true libertarian.

 

Good God Man! :eek: Why would I want to do that? Afterall, I am quite satisfied being of my species; a true Moderate. It's a beautiful thing indeed. :)

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I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness.

 

 

 

 

:eek: WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? :eek:

 

www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/

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How many fanatics claim to have god on there side, most of them!

 

The main current conflicts in the Middle East can be whittled down to religion.

The Jews believe Israel is there, the Palestinians believe its there and both claim to have god on there side, the basis of there on going, near sighted and pathetic conflict is RELIGION! A conflict that has been ongoing for over two thousand years.

 

Also the war in Iraq has been made into (by the Muslim fanatics in that region), a war between Christians and Muslims.

 

Yes animals kill one another, when chimp fight they fight for dominance and rarely kill there own kind, usually the looser is driven off and never returns. Most animals kill for food and teritory.

 

However Humanity is the only animal that kills for control.

Yes religion does not make people evil, but it sure as hell gives them an excuse for rapping, bashing, destroying and killing everything in there way, in the name of there peace loving god!

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Good God Man! :eek: Why would I want to do that? Afterall, I am quite satisfied being of my species; a true Moderate. It's a beautiful thing indeed. :)

 

Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

 

Hmm. I'm in too good of company to be swayed by the likes of you. :cool:

 

 

Observe due measure, moderation is best in all things. - Hesiod, 700 B.C.

 

Moderation, which consists in an indifference about little things, and in a prudent and well-proportioned zeal about things of importance, can proceed from nothing but true knowledge, which has its foundation in self-acquaintance. - Plato, 380 B.C.

 

The virtue of justice consists in moderation, as regulated by wisdom. - Aristotle, 350 B.C.

 

Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 50 B.C.

 

A wise man is superior to any insults which can be put upon him, and the best reply to unseemly behavior is patience and moderation. - Moliere, 1660

 

The choicest pleasures of life lie within the ring of moderation. - Benjamin Disraeli, 1854

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I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness.

 

 

 

 

:eek: WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? :eek:

 

www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/

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What did Popper have to say about Plato?

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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What did Popper have to say about Plato?

 

In his book, The Open Society and Its Enemies, Popper stated that the guiding public policy should be to "Minimize avoidable suffering," this in contradistinction to the Utilitarian maxim, "Maximize happiness."

 

While granting that Plato is the "greatest philosopher of all time ... [one] of unequaled intelligence," Popper attacked, in his book, Plato's political program.

 

So, am I to ascertain from your statement that you take as gospel, all writings and thoughts of those you admire, or only that I should?

 

However, I also find it hard to believe that all thoughts and ideas of all who you admire, are 100% congruent with each other. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

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I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness.

 

 

 

 

:eek: WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? :eek:

 

www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/

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