Revered DNA scientist and Nobel prize winner blasted for telling the truth about Blacks

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Jolly Rogers

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http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3067222.ece

excerpt:

Africans are less intelligent than Westerners, says DNA pioneer

One of the world's most eminent scientists was embroiled in an extraordinary
row last night after he claimed that black people were less intelligent than
white people and the idea that "equal powers of reason" were shared across
racial groups was a delusion.

James Watson, a Nobel Prize winner for his part in the unravelling of DNA
who now runs one of America's leading scientific research institutions, drew
widespread condemnation for comments he made ahead of his arrival in Britain
today for a speaking tour at venues including the Science Museum in London.

The 79-year-old geneticist reopened the explosive debate about race and
science in a newspaper interview in which he said Western policies towards
African countries were wrongly based on an assumption that black people were
as clever as their white counterparts when "testing" suggested the contrary.
He claimed genes responsible for creating differences in human intelligence
could be found within a decade.

The newly formed Equality and Human Rights Commission, successor to the
Commission for Racial Equality, saidit was studying Dr Watson's remarks "in
full". Dr Watson told The Sunday Times that he was "inherently gloomy about
the prospect of Africa" because "all our social policies are based on the
fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing
says not really". He said there was a natural desire that all human beings
should be equal but "people who have to deal with black employees find this
not true".

His views are also reflected in a book published next week, in which he
writes: "There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual
capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should
prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of
reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it
so."

The furore echoes the controversy created in the 1990s by The Bell Curve, a
book co-authored by the American political scientist Charles Murray, which
suggested differences in IQ were genetic and discussed the implications of a
racial divide in intelligence. The work was heavily criticised across the
world, in particular by leading scientists who described it as a work of
"scientific racism".

Dr Watson arrives in Britain today for a speaking tour to publicise his
latest book, Avoid Boring People: Lessons from a Life in Science. Among his
first engagements is a speech to an audience at the Science Museum organised
by the Dana Centre, which held a discussion last night on the history of
scientific racism.

Critics of Dr Watson said there should be a robust response to his views
across the spheres of politics and science. Keith Vaz, the Labour chairman
of the Home Affairs Select Committee, said: "It is sad to see a scientist of
such achievement making such baseless, unscientific and extremely offensive
comments. I am sure the scientific community will roundly reject what appear
to be Dr Watson's personal prejudices.

"These comments serve as a reminder of the attitudes which can still exists
at the highestprofessional levels."

The American scientist earned a place in the history of great scientific
breakthroughs of the 20th century when he worked at the University of
Cambridge in the 1950s and 1960s and formed part of the team which
discovered the structure of DNA. He shared the 1962 Nobel Prize for medicine
with his British colleague Francis Crick and New Zealand-born Maurice
Wilkins.

But despite serving for 50 years as a director of the Cold Spring Harbour
Laboratory on Long Island, considered a world leader in research into cancer
and genetics, Dr Watson has frequently courted controversy with some of his
views on politics, sexuality and race. The respected journal Science wrote
in 1990: "To many in the scientific community, Watson has long been
something of a wild man, and his colleagues tend to hold their collective
breath whenever he veers from the script."

In 1997, he told a British newspaper that a woman should have the right to
abort her unborn child if tests could determine it would be homosexual. He
later insisted he was talking about a "hypothetical" choice which could
never be applied. He has also suggested a link between skin colour and sex
drive, positing the theory that black people have higher libidos, and argued
in favour of genetic screening and engineering on the basis that "stupidity"
could one day be cured. He has claimed that beauty could be genetically
manufactured, saying: "People say it would be terrible if we made all girls
pretty. I think it would great."

The Cold Spring Harbour Laboratory said yesterday that Dr Watson could not
be contacted to comment on his remarks.

Steven Rose, a professor of biological sciences at the Open University and a
founder member of the Society for Social Responsibility in Science, said:
"This is
Watson at his most scandalous. He has said similar things about women before
but I have never heard him get into this racist terrain. If he knew the
literature in the subject he would know he was out of his depth
scientifically, quite apart from socially and politically."

Anti-racism campaigners called for Dr Watson's remarks to be looked at in
the context of racial hatred laws. A spokesman for the 1990 Trust, a black
human rights group, said: "It is astonishing that a man of such distinction
should make comments that seem to perpetuate racism in this way. It amounts
to fuelling bigotry and we would like it to be looked at for grounds of
legal complaint."

----------------------

Exactly what did Dr. Watson say that is supposedly racist? He simply spoke
the truth. Any intelligent person who interacts with Black people at any
level can anecdotally confirm that his research findings and comments
validate what they observe about Blacks on a daily basis. Every metric in
existence confirms that Blacks are of far lower intelligence and reasoning
ability than Whites. Their behaviors, decisions, and the outcomes in their
lives are a direct function of their lower intelligence. No amount of money,
goodwill, or patronizing egalitarian attitudes will change that. Blacks
belong in Africa, not civilized western countries where they do not fit in
and never will be able to conform to societal norms.

Black people are simply what they are. I do not mean that in a mean-spirited
or hateful way. In truth, I bear them no malice or ill-will. They are simply
what they are, and in western countries, that means they are in permanent
custodial care, which further means that responsible people have to pay for
their presence, both financially and in many other tangible and intangible
ways.

In summary, Dr. Watson is not a racist. Rather, his critics and detractors
are egalitarian imbeciles.

--
Jolly Rogers





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On Oct 17, 12:02 am, "Jolly Rogers" <jollyrog...@nospam.com> wrote:
> http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3067222.ece
>
> excerpt:
>
> Africans are less intelligent than Westerners, says DNA pioneer


The real is question is: Does it matter?
Since we invented Turing Machines, GPS, AI, Cruise Missiles,
Robots,
Lasers, and DVD to conquer BOTH the industry slaves like Africans
and
the inbred DNA imbeciles like Britian and China.



> One of the world's most eminent scientists was embroiled in an extraordinary
> row last night after he claimed that black people were less intelligent than
> white people and the idea that "equal powers of reason" were shared across
> racial groups was a delusion.
>
> James Watson, a Nobel Prize winner for his part in the unravelling of DNA
> who now runs one of America's leading scientific research institutions, drew
> widespread condemnation for comments he made ahead of his arrival in Britain
> today for a speaking tour at venues including the Science Museum in London.
>
> The 79-year-old geneticist reopened the explosive debate about race and
> science in a newspaper interview in which he said Western policies towards
> African countries were wrongly based on an assumption that black people were
> as clever as their white counterparts when "testing" suggested the contrary.
> He claimed genes responsible for creating differences in human intelligence
> could be found within a decade.
>
> The newly formed Equality and Human Rights Commission, successor to the
> Commission for Racial Equality, saidit was studying Dr Watson's remarks "in
> full". Dr Watson told The Sunday Times that he was "inherently gloomy about
> the prospect of Africa" because "all our social policies are based on the
> fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing
> says not really". He said there was a natural desire that all human beings
> should be equal but "people who have to deal with black employees find this
> not true".
>
> His views are also reflected in a book published next week, in which he
> writes: "There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual
> capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should
> prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of
> reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it
> so."
>
> The furore echoes the controversy created in the 1990s by The Bell Curve, a
> book co-authored by the American political scientist Charles Murray, which
> suggested differences in IQ were genetic and discussed the implications of a
> racial divide in intelligence. The work was heavily criticised across the
> world, in particular by leading scientists who described it as a work of
> "scientific racism".
>
> Dr Watson arrives in Britain today for a speaking tour to publicise his
> latest book, Avoid Boring People: Lessons from a Life in Science. Among his
> first engagements is a speech to an audience at the Science Museum organised
> by the Dana Centre, which held a discussion last night on the history of
> scientific racism.
>
> Critics of Dr Watson said there should be a robust response to his views
> across the spheres of politics and science. Keith Vaz, the Labour chairman
> of the Home Affairs Select Committee, said: "It is sad to see a scientist of
> such achievement making such baseless, unscientific and extremely offensive
> comments. I am sure the scientific community will roundly reject what appear
> to be Dr Watson's personal prejudices.
>
> "These comments serve as a reminder of the attitudes which can still exists
> at the highestprofessional levels."
>
> The American scientist earned a place in the history of great scientific
> breakthroughs of the 20th century when he worked at the University of
> Cambridge in the 1950s and 1960s and formed part of the team which
> discovered the structure of DNA. He shared the 1962 Nobel Prize for medicine
> with his British colleague Francis Crick and New Zealand-born Maurice
> Wilkins.
>
> But despite serving for 50 years as a director of the Cold Spring Harbour
> Laboratory on Long Island, considered a world leader in research into cancer
> and genetics, Dr Watson has frequently courted controversy with some of his
> views on politics, sexuality and race. The respected journal Science wrote
> in 1990: "To many in the scientific community, Watson has long been
> something of a wild man, and his colleagues tend to hold their collective
> breath whenever he veers from the script."
>
> In 1997, he told a British newspaper that a woman should have the right to
> abort her unborn child if tests could determine it would be homosexual. He
> later insisted he was talking about a "hypothetical" choice which could
> never be applied. He has also suggested a link between skin colour and sex
> drive, positing the theory that black people have higher libidos, and argued
> in favour of genetic screening and engineering on the basis that "stupidity"
> could one day be cured. He has claimed that beauty could be genetically
> manufactured, saying: "People say it would be terrible if we made all girls
> pretty. I think it would great."
>
> The Cold Spring Harbour Laboratory said yesterday that Dr Watson could not
> be contacted to comment on his remarks.
>
> Steven Rose, a professor of biological sciences at the Open University and a
> founder member of the Society for Social Responsibility in Science, said:
> "This is
> Watson at his most scandalous. He has said similar things about women before
> but I have never heard him get into this racist terrain. If he knew the
> literature in the subject he would know he was out of his depth
> scientifically, quite apart from socially and politically."
>
> Anti-racism campaigners called for Dr Watson's remarks to be looked at in
> the context of racial hatred laws. A spokesman for the 1990 Trust, a black
> human rights group, said: "It is astonishing that a man of such distinction
> should make comments that seem to perpetuate racism in this way. It amounts
> to fuelling bigotry and we would like it to be looked at for grounds of
> legal complaint."
>
> ----------------------
>
> Exactly what did Dr. Watson say that is supposedly racist? He simply spoke
> the truth. Any intelligent person who interacts with Black people at any
> level can anecdotally confirm that his research findings and comments
> validate what they observe about Blacks on a daily basis. Every metric in
> existence confirms that Blacks are of far lower intelligence and reasoning
> ability than Whites. Their behaviors, decisions, and the outcomes in their
> lives are a direct function of their lower intelligence. No amount of money,
> goodwill, or patronizing egalitarian attitudes will change that. Blacks
> belong in Africa, not civilized western countries where they do not fit in
> and never will be able to conform to societal norms.
>
> Black people are simply what they are. I do not mean that in a mean-spirited
> or hateful way. In truth, I bear them no malice or ill-will. They are simply
> what they are, and in western countries, that means they are in permanent
> custodial care, which further means that responsible people have to pay for
> their presence, both financially and in many other tangible and intangible
> ways.
>
> In summary, Dr. Watson is not a racist. Rather, his critics and detractors
> are egalitarian imbeciles.
>
> --
> Jolly Rogers
>
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"zzpat" <zzpatrick@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Jolly Rogers wrote:
>> http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3067222.ece
>> excerpt:
>> Africans are less intelligent than Westerners, says DNA pioneer

> And gay fetuses should be aborted


At the decision of the parents.

> and women should be genetically altered so they're all pretty.


Not such a bad idea....

> The man may be brilliant, but he's also a fool.


He's thinking ahead, you're not.
 
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> "zzpat" <zzpatrick@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Jolly Rogers wrote:
>>> http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3067222.ece
>>> excerpt:
>>> Africans are less intelligent than Westerners, says DNA pioneer

>> And gay fetuses should be aborted

>
> At the decision of the parents.
>
>> and women should be genetically altered so they're all pretty.

>
> Not such a bad idea....
>
>> The man may be brilliant, but he's also a fool.

>
> He's thinking ahead, you're not.
>


Note how he doesn't say men should have their genes changed to make them
more handsome or strong. In his eyes a woman must be petty or she's
defective.

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> Patriot Games wrote:
>> "zzpat" <zzpatrick@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ff55ct1nc0@enews4.newsguy.com...
>>> Jolly Rogers wrote:
>>>> http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3067222.ece
>>>> excerpt:
>>>> Africans are less intelligent than Westerners, says DNA pioneer
>>> And gay fetuses should be aborted

>> At the decision of the parents.
>>> and women should be genetically altered so they're all pretty.

>> Not such a bad idea....
>>> The man may be brilliant, but he's also a fool.

>> He's thinking ahead, you're not.

> Note how he doesn't say men should have their genes changed to make them
> more handsome or strong.


That's fantasy, not science.

> In his eyes a woman must be petty or she's defective.


Your opinion.

However, casual observaion suggests there may be some truth to that given
that Nancy Pelosi and Hitlary Cliton are two of the ugliest women in the
planet and both are clearly defective.
 
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>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>> "zzpat" <zzpatrick@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ff55ct1nc0@enews4.newsguy.com...
>>>> Jolly Rogers wrote:
>>>>> http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3067222.ece
>>>>> excerpt:
>>>>> Africans are less intelligent than Westerners, says DNA pioneer
>>>> And gay fetuses should be aborted
>>> At the decision of the parents.
>>>> and women should be genetically altered so they're all pretty.
>>> Not such a bad idea....
>>>> The man may be brilliant, but he's also a fool.
>>> He's thinking ahead, you're not.

>> Note how he doesn't say men should have their genes changed to make
>> them more handsome or strong.

>
> That's fantasy, not science.
>
>> In his eyes a woman must be petty or she's defective.

>
> Your opinion.
>


As I wrote previously he also thinks women would want to abort a gay
fetus because women want grandchildren. In a sort of sick way he's kinda
right about grandchildren but few mothers if any would abort because
their fetus might be gay.

On pretty women, here's his exact quote; "People say it would be
terrible if we made all girls pretty. I think it would great." Stress
the words "we made all girls pretty."

So, he thinks women should be made pretty, gays should be killed before
they're born and blacks are dumb etc. The only group of people not
worthy of his disdain are racist homophobic bigots like himself.


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> Patriot Games wrote:
>> "zzpat" <zzpatrick@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>>> "zzpat" <zzpatrick@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ff55ct1nc0@enews4.newsguy.com...
>>>>> Jolly Rogers wrote:
>>>>>> http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3067222.ece
>>>>>> excerpt:
>>>>>> Africans are less intelligent than Westerners, says DNA pioneer
>>>>> And gay fetuses should be aborted
>>>> At the decision of the parents.
>>>>> and women should be genetically altered so they're all pretty.
>>>> Not such a bad idea....
>>>>> The man may be brilliant, but he's also a fool.
>>>> He's thinking ahead, you're not.
>>> Note how he doesn't say men should have their genes changed to make them
>>> more handsome or strong.

>> That's fantasy, not science.
>>> In his eyes a woman must be petty or she's defective.

>> Your opinion.

> As I wrote previously he also thinks women would want to abort a gay fetus
> because women want grandchildren. In a sort of sick way he's kinda right
> about grandchildren but few mothers if any would abort because their fetus
> might be gay.


You're wrong. Most parents if given the choice would abort a homo fetus.

> On pretty women, here's his exact quote; "People say it would be terrible
> if we made all girls pretty. I think it would great." Stress the words "we
> made all girls pretty."
> So, he thinks women should be made pretty, gays should be killed before
> they're born and blacks are dumb etc. The only group of people not worthy
> of his disdain are racist homophobic bigots like himself.


He's thinking ahead, you're not.

We're already very close to being able to tell expectant parents the
liklihood of the child being gay. You can't put the genie back in the
bottle.

We're going to have 'designer' babies and there's nothing to stop it........

He's correct about Negro genetics. But he's not a sociologist so he
neglects to mention that the inferior negro genetics is more likely a result
of it behind in evolutionary development than it being permanently inferior.
 
On Oct 17, 12:02 am, "Jolly Rogers" <jollyrog...@nospam.com> wrote:
> http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3067222.ece
>
> excerpt:
>
> Africans are less intelligent than Westerners, says DNA pioneer
>
> One of the world's most eminent scientists was embroiled in an extraordinary
> row last night after he claimed that black people were less intelligent than
> white people and the idea that "equal powers of reason" were shared across
> racial groups was a delusion.
>
> James Watson, a Nobel Prize winner for his part in the unravelling of DNA
> who now runs one of America's leading scientific research institutions, drew
> widespread condemnation for comments he made ahead of his arrival in Britain
> today for a speaking tour at venues including the Science Museum in London.
>
> The 79-year-old geneticist reopened the explosive debate about race and
> science in a newspaper interview in which he said Western policies towards
> African countries were wrongly based on an assumption that black people were
> as clever as their white counterparts when "testing" suggested the contrary.
> He claimed genes responsible for creating differences in human intelligence
> could be found within a decade.
>
> The newly formed Equality and Human Rights Commission, successor to the
> Commission for Racial Equality, saidit was studying Dr Watson's remarks "in
> full". Dr Watson told The Sunday Times that he was "inherently gloomy about
> the prospect of Africa" because "all our social policies are based on the
> fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing
> says not really". He said there was a natural desire that all human beings
> should be equal but "people who have to deal with black employees find this
> not true".
>
> His views are also reflected in a book published next week, in which he
> writes: "There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual
> capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should
> prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of
> reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it
> so."
>
> The furore echoes the controversy created in the 1990s by The Bell Curve, a
> book co-authored by the American political scientist Charles Murray, which
> suggested differences in IQ were genetic and discussed the implications of a
> racial divide in intelligence. The work was heavily criticised across the
> world, in particular by leading scientists who described it as a work of
> "scientific racism".
>
> Dr Watson arrives in Britain today for a speaking tour to publicise his
> latest book, Avoid Boring People: Lessons from a Life in Science. Among his
> first engagements is a speech to an audience at the Science Museum organised
> by the Dana Centre, which held a discussion last night on the history of
> scientific racism.
>
> Critics of Dr Watson said there should be a robust response to his views
> across the spheres of politics and science. Keith Vaz, the Labour chairman
> of the Home Affairs Select Committee, said: "It is sad to see a scientist of
> such achievement making such baseless, unscientific and extremely offensive
> comments. I am sure the scientific community will roundly reject what appear
> to be Dr Watson's personal prejudices.
>
> "These comments serve as a reminder of the attitudes which can still exists
> at the highestprofessional levels."
>
> The American scientist earned a place in the history of great scientific
> breakthroughs of the 20th century when he worked at the University of
> Cambridge in the 1950s and 1960s and formed part of the team which
> discovered the structure of DNA. He shared the 1962 Nobel Prize for medicine
> with his British colleague Francis Crick and New Zealand-born Maurice
> Wilkins.
>
> But despite serving for 50 years as a director of the Cold Spring Harbour
> Laboratory on Long Island, considered a world leader in research into cancer
> and genetics, Dr Watson has frequently courted controversy with some of his
> views on politics, sexuality and race. The respected journal Science wrote
> in 1990: "To many in the scientific community, Watson has long been
> something of a wild man, and his colleagues tend to hold their collective
> breath whenever he veers from the script."
>
> In 1997, he told a British newspaper that a woman should have the right to
> abort her unborn child if tests could determine it would be homosexual. He
> later insisted he was talking about a "hypothetical" choice which could
> never be applied. He has also suggested a link between skin colour and sex
> drive, positing the theory that black people have higher libidos, and argued
> in favour of genetic screening and engineering on the basis that "stupidity"
> could one day be cured. He has claimed that beauty could be genetically
> manufactured, saying: "People say it would be terrible if we made all girls
> pretty. I think it would great."
>
> The Cold Spring Harbour Laboratory said yesterday that Dr Watson could not
> be contacted to comment on his remarks.
>
> Steven Rose, a professor of biological sciences at the Open University and a
> founder member of the Society for Social Responsibility in Science, said:
> "This is
> Watson at his most scandalous. He has said similar things about women before
> but I have never heard him get into this racist terrain. If he knew the
> literature in the subject he would know he was out of his depth
> scientifically, quite apart from socially and politically."
>
> Anti-racism campaigners called for Dr Watson's remarks to be looked at in
> the context of racial hatred laws. A spokesman for the 1990 Trust, a black
> human rights group, said: "It is astonishing that a man of such distinction
> should make comments that seem to perpetuate racism in this way. It amounts
> to fuelling bigotry and we would like it to be looked at for grounds of
> legal complaint."
>
> ----------------------
>
> Exactly what did Dr. Watson say that is supposedly racist? He simply spoke
> the truth. Any intelligent person who interacts with Black people at any
> level can anecdotally confirm that his research findings and comments
> validate what they observe about Blacks on a daily basis. Every metric in
> existence confirms that Blacks are of far lower intelligence and reasoning
> ability than Whites. Their behaviors, decisions, and the outcomes in their
> lives are a direct function of their lower intelligence. No amount of money,
> goodwill, or patronizing egalitarian attitudes will change that. Blacks
> belong in Africa, not civilized western countries where they do not fit in
> and never will be able to conform to societal norms.
>
> Black people are simply what they are. I do not mean that in a mean-spirited
> or hateful way. In truth, I bear them no malice or ill-will. They are simply
> what they are, and in western countries, that means they are in permanent
> custodial care, which further means that responsible people have to pay for
> their presence, both financially and in many other tangible and intangible
> ways.
>
> In summary, Dr. Watson is not a racist. Rather, his critics and detractors
> are egalitarian imbeciles.
>
> --
> Jolly Rogers
>
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If you accept the logic and evidence that suggests to some that whites
are smarter than blacks then you must also accept that Asians are
smarter than whites.

Is anyone willing to do this, or will you only believe the part that
makes you better and not the part that makes you worse?
 
Patriot Games wrote:
> "zzpat" <zzpatrick@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>> "zzpat" <zzpatrick@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ff5gbk3s93@enews4.newsguy.com...
>>>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>>>> "zzpat" <zzpatrick@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ff55ct1nc0@enews4.newsguy.com...
>>>>>> Jolly Rogers wrote:
>>>>>>> http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3067222.ece
>>>>>>> excerpt:
>>>>>>> Africans are less intelligent than Westerners, says DNA pioneer
>>>>>> And gay fetuses should be aborted
>>>>> At the decision of the parents.
>>>>>> and women should be genetically altered so they're all pretty.
>>>>> Not such a bad idea....
>>>>>> The man may be brilliant, but he's also a fool.
>>>>> He's thinking ahead, you're not.
>>>> Note how he doesn't say men should have their genes changed to make
>>>> them more handsome or strong.
>>> That's fantasy, not science.
>>>> In his eyes a woman must be petty or she's defective.
>>> Your opinion.

>> As I wrote previously he also thinks women would want to abort a gay
>> fetus because women want grandchildren. In a sort of sick way he's
>> kinda right about grandchildren but few mothers if any would abort
>> because their fetus might be gay.

>
> You're wrong. Most parents if given the choice would abort a homo fetus.
>
>> On pretty women, here's his exact quote; "People say it would be
>> terrible if we made all girls pretty. I think it would great." Stress
>> the words "we made all girls pretty."
>> So, he thinks women should be made pretty, gays should be killed
>> before they're born and blacks are dumb etc. The only group of people
>> not worthy of his disdain are racist homophobic bigots like himself.

>
> He's thinking ahead, you're not.
>
> We're already very close to being able to tell expectant parents the
> liklihood of the child being gay. You can't put the genie back in the
> bottle.
>
> We're going to have 'designer' babies and there's nothing to stop
> it........
>
> He's correct about Negro genetics. But he's not a sociologist so he
> neglects to mention that the inferior negro genetics is more likely a
> result of it behind in evolutionary development than it being
> permanently inferior.
>


I haven't seen any evidence suggesting most intelligent people think gay
is wrong much less something that should be eliminated with abortion. I
doubt you can supply any references supporting your silly statements.

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"zzpat" <zzpatrick@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Patriot Games wrote:
>> "zzpat" <zzpatrick@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ff5qsv616in@enews4.newsguy.com...
>>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>>> "zzpat" <zzpatrick@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ff5gbk3s93@enews4.newsguy.com...
>>>>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>>>>> "zzpat" <zzpatrick@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:ff55ct1nc0@enews4.newsguy.com...
>>>>>>> Jolly Rogers wrote:
>>>>>>>> http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3067222.ece
>>>>>>>> excerpt:
>>>>>>>> Africans are less intelligent than Westerners, says DNA pioneer
>>>>>>> And gay fetuses should be aborted
>>>>>> At the decision of the parents.
>>>>>>> and women should be genetically altered so they're all pretty.
>>>>>> Not such a bad idea....
>>>>>>> The man may be brilliant, but he's also a fool.
>>>>>> He's thinking ahead, you're not.
>>>>> Note how he doesn't say men should have their genes changed to make
>>>>> them more handsome or strong.
>>>> That's fantasy, not science.
>>>>> In his eyes a woman must be petty or she's defective.
>>>> Your opinion.
>>> As I wrote previously he also thinks women would want to abort a gay
>>> fetus because women want grandchildren. In a sort of sick way he's kinda
>>> right about grandchildren but few mothers if any would abort because
>>> their fetus might be gay.

>> You're wrong. Most parents if given the choice would abort a homo fetus.
>>> On pretty women, here's his exact quote; "People say it would be
>>> terrible if we made all girls pretty. I think it would great." Stress
>>> the words "we made all girls pretty."
>>> So, he thinks women should be made pretty, gays should be killed before
>>> they're born and blacks are dumb etc. The only group of people not
>>> worthy of his disdain are racist homophobic bigots like himself.

>> He's thinking ahead, you're not.
>> We're already very close to being able to tell expectant parents the
>> liklihood of the child being gay. You can't put the genie back in the
>> bottle.
>> We're going to have 'designer' babies and there's nothing to stop
>> it........
>> He's correct about Negro genetics. But he's not a sociologist so he
>> neglects to mention that the inferior negro genetics is more likely a
>> result of it behind in evolutionary development than it being permanently
>> inferior.

> I haven't seen any evidence suggesting most intelligent people think gay
> is wrong much less something that should be eliminated with abortion.


That's entirerly irelevant. Women get pregnant, intelligent or not,
intentionally or not.

"Wrong" also has nothing to do with it.

80% of America is against gay marriage. That suggests that given a choice
most parents would not choose to have a gay child.

> I doubt you can supply any references supporting your silly statements.


Its common sense.
 
On Oct 17, 6:34 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:
> "zzpat" <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ff5qsv616in@enews4.newsguy.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Patriot Games wrote:
> >> "zzpat" <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:ff5gbk3s93@enews4.newsguy.com...
> >>> Patriot Games wrote:
> >>>> "zzpat" <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:ff55ct1nc0@enews4.newsguy.com...
> >>>>> Jolly Rogers wrote:
> >>>>>>http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3067222.ece
> >>>>>> excerpt:
> >>>>>> Africans are less intelligent than Westerners, says DNA pioneer
> >>>>> And gay fetuses should be aborted
> >>>> At the decision of the parents.
> >>>>> and women should be genetically altered so they're all pretty.
> >>>> Not such a bad idea....
> >>>>> The man may be brilliant, but he's also a fool.
> >>>> He's thinking ahead, you're not.
> >>> Note how he doesn't say men should have their genes changed to make them
> >>> more handsome or strong.
> >> That's fantasy, not science.
> >>> In his eyes a woman must be petty or she's defective.
> >> Your opinion.

> > As I wrote previously he also thinks women would want to abort a gay fetus
> > because women want grandchildren. In a sort of sick way he's kinda right
> > about grandchildren but few mothers if any would abort because their fetus
> > might be gay.

>
> You're wrong. Most parents if given the choice would abort a homo fetus.


If only your parents had felt that way, we'd be putting up with a hell
of a lot less sissy-braying around here.


>
> > On pretty women, here's his exact quote; "People say it would be terrible
> > if we made all girls pretty. I think it would great." Stress the words "we
> > made all girls pretty."
> > So, he thinks women should be made pretty, gays should be killed before
> > they're born and blacks are dumb etc. The only group of people not worthy
> > of his disdain are racist homophobic bigots like himself.

>
> He's thinking ahead, you're not.
>
> We're already very close to being able to tell expectant parents the
> liklihood of the child being gay. You can't put the genie back in the
> bottle.
>
> We're going to have 'designer' babies and there's nothing to stop it........
>
> He's correct about Negro genetics. But he's not a sociologist so he
> neglects to mention that the inferior negro genetics is more likely a result
> of it behind in evolutionary development than it being permanently inferior.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
 
<kyldltn@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> You're wrong. Most parents if given the choice would abort a homo fetus.

>
> If only your parents had felt that way, we'd be putting up with a hell
> of a lot less sissy-braying around here.


You were reared to refer to factual statements as "sissy-braying"? Judging
by your other uncouth language, one may easily surmise your family's social
status.

--
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On Oct 17, 6:41 pm, american.male.1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> If you accept the logic and evidence that suggests to some that whites
> are smarter than blacks then you must also accept that Asians are
> smarter than whites.
>
> Is anyone willing to do this, or will you only believe the part that
> makes you better and not the part that makes you worse?


<crickets.wav>

Heads in the sand, just as I predicted.

Pathetic.
 
On Oct 18, 8:04 pm, american.male.1...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Oct 17, 6:41 pm, american.male.1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > If you accept the logic and evidence that suggests to some that whites
> > are smarter than blacks then you must also accept that Asians are
> > smarter than whites.

>
> > Is anyone willing to do this, or will you only believe the part that
> > makes you better and not the part that makes you worse?

>
> <crickets.wav>
>
> Heads in the sand, just as I predicted.


Well, since the way the moron Washingtoon
intelligence goes, is always:
"Heads in the ass of a monkey who **** on a dead horse".
It really makes no difference with the morons,
since they are MORONS.







>
> Pathetic.
 
<kyldltn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Oct 17, 6:34 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:
>> "zzpat" <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ff5qsv616in@enews4.newsguy.com...
>> > Patriot Games wrote:
>> >> "zzpat" <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:ff5gbk3s93@enews4.newsguy.com...
>> >>> Patriot Games wrote:
>> >>>> "zzpat" <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:ff55ct1nc0@enews4.newsguy.com...
>> >>>>> Jolly Rogers wrote:
>> >>>>>>http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3067222.ece
>> >>>>>> excerpt:
>> >>>>>> Africans are less intelligent than Westerners, says DNA pioneer
>> >>>>> And gay fetuses should be aborted
>> >>>> At the decision of the parents.
>> >>>>> and women should be genetically altered so they're all pretty.
>> >>>> Not such a bad idea....
>> >>>>> The man may be brilliant, but he's also a fool.
>> >>>> He's thinking ahead, you're not.
>> >>> Note how he doesn't say men should have their genes changed to make
>> >>> them
>> >>> more handsome or strong.
>> >> That's fantasy, not science.
>> >>> In his eyes a woman must be petty or she's defective.
>> >> Your opinion.
>> > As I wrote previously he also thinks women would want to abort a gay
>> > fetus
>> > because women want grandchildren. In a sort of sick way he's kinda
>> > right
>> > about grandchildren but few mothers if any would abort because their
>> > fetus
>> > might be gay.

>> You're wrong. Most parents if given the choice would abort a homo fetus.

> If only your parents had felt that way, we'd be putting up with a hell
> of a lot less sissy-braying around here.


You've got a good point. My parents had just one child - Me.

Had they had 5 kids like me, well-hung, full-on hetero, maybe the braying
fags would seem less in number.
 
On Oct 19, 12:16 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:
> <kyld...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1192729754.749228.275590@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 17, 6:34 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:
> >> "zzpat" <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:ff5qsv616in@enews4.newsguy.com...
> >> > Patriot Games wrote:
> >> >> "zzpat" <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >>news:ff5gbk3s93@enews4.newsguy.com...
> >> >>> Patriot Games wrote:
> >> >>>> "zzpat" <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>news:ff55ct1nc0@enews4.newsguy.com...
> >> >>>>> Jolly Rogers wrote:
> >> >>>>>>http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3067222.ece
> >> >>>>>> excerpt:
> >> >>>>>> Africans are less intelligent than Westerners, says DNA pioneer
> >> >>>>> And gay fetuses should be aborted
> >> >>>> At the decision of the parents.
> >> >>>>> and women should be genetically altered so they're all pretty.
> >> >>>> Not such a bad idea....
> >> >>>>> The man may be brilliant, but he's also a fool.
> >> >>>> He's thinking ahead, you're not.
> >> >>> Note how he doesn't say men should have their genes changed to make
> >> >>> them
> >> >>> more handsome or strong.
> >> >> That's fantasy, not science.
> >> >>> In his eyes a woman must be petty or she's defective.
> >> >> Your opinion.
> >> > As I wrote previously he also thinks women would want to abort a gay
> >> > fetus
> >> > because women want grandchildren. In a sort of sick way he's kinda
> >> > right
> >> > about grandchildren but few mothers if any would abort because their
> >> > fetus
> >> > might be gay.
> >> You're wrong. Most parents if given the choice would abort a homo fetus.

> > If only your parents had felt that way, we'd be putting up with a hell
> > of a lot less sissy-braying around here.

>
> You've got a good point. My parents had just one child - Me.


Why on Earth would they risk getting another POS like you, sissy?


>
> Had they had 5 kids like me, well-hung, full-on hetero, maybe the braying
> fags would seem less in number.


Your insistence on both counts is a pretty good indication that you
are neither, tiny! LOL!
 
<kyldltn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Oct 19, 12:16 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:
>> <kyld...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1192729754.749228.275590@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> > On Oct 17, 6:34 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:
>> >> "zzpat" <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:ff5qsv616in@enews4.newsguy.com...
>> >> > Patriot Games wrote:
>> >> >> "zzpat" <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>news:ff5gbk3s93@enews4.newsguy.com...
>> >> >>> Patriot Games wrote:
>> >> >>>> "zzpat" <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>>>news:ff55ct1nc0@enews4.newsguy.com...
>> >> >>>>> Jolly Rogers wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3067222.ece
>> >> >>>>>> excerpt:
>> >> >>>>>> Africans are less intelligent than Westerners, says DNA pioneer
>> >> >>>>> And gay fetuses should be aborted
>> >> >>>> At the decision of the parents.
>> >> >>>>> and women should be genetically altered so they're all pretty.
>> >> >>>> Not such a bad idea....
>> >> >>>>> The man may be brilliant, but he's also a fool.
>> >> >>>> He's thinking ahead, you're not.
>> >> >>> Note how he doesn't say men should have their genes changed to
>> >> >>> make
>> >> >>> them
>> >> >>> more handsome or strong.
>> >> >> That's fantasy, not science.
>> >> >>> In his eyes a woman must be petty or she's defective.
>> >> >> Your opinion.
>> >> > As I wrote previously he also thinks women would want to abort a gay
>> >> > fetus
>> >> > because women want grandchildren. In a sort of sick way he's kinda
>> >> > right
>> >> > about grandchildren but few mothers if any would abort because their
>> >> > fetus
>> >> > might be gay.
>> >> You're wrong. Most parents if given the choice would abort a homo
>> >> fetus.
>> > If only your parents had felt that way, we'd be putting up with a hell
>> > of a lot less sissy-braying around here.

>> You've got a good point. My parents had just one child - Me.

> Why on Earth would they risk getting another POS like you, sissy?


Your jealousy has no limits I see.

>> Had they had 5 kids like me, well-hung, full-on hetero, maybe the braying
>> fags would seem less in number.

> Your insistence on both counts is a pretty good indication that you
> are neither, tiny! LOL!


Jealousy is a monster....
 
On Oct 25, 12:10 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:
> <kyld...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1193312927.520927.119010@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 19, 12:16 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:
> >> <kyld...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>news:1192729754.749228.275590@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> >> > On Oct 17, 6:34 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:
> >> >> "zzpat" <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >>news:ff5qsv616in@enews4.newsguy.com...
> >> >> > Patriot Games wrote:
> >> >> >> "zzpat" <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >>news:ff5gbk3s93@enews4.newsguy.com...
> >> >> >>> Patriot Games wrote:
> >> >> >>>> "zzpat" <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >>>>news:ff55ct1nc0@enews4.newsguy.com...
> >> >> >>>>> Jolly Rogers wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3067222.ece
> >> >> >>>>>> excerpt:
> >> >> >>>>>> Africans are less intelligent than Westerners, says DNA pioneer
> >> >> >>>>> And gay fetuses should be aborted
> >> >> >>>> At the decision of the parents.
> >> >> >>>>> and women should be genetically altered so they're all pretty.
> >> >> >>>> Not such a bad idea....
> >> >> >>>>> The man may be brilliant, but he's also a fool.
> >> >> >>>> He's thinking ahead, you're not.
> >> >> >>> Note how he doesn't say men should have their genes changed to
> >> >> >>> make
> >> >> >>> them
> >> >> >>> more handsome or strong.
> >> >> >> That's fantasy, not science.
> >> >> >>> In his eyes a woman must be petty or she's defective.
> >> >> >> Your opinion.
> >> >> > As I wrote previously he also thinks women would want to abort a gay
> >> >> > fetus
> >> >> > because women want grandchildren. In a sort of sick way he's kinda
> >> >> > right
> >> >> > about grandchildren but few mothers if any would abort because their
> >> >> > fetus
> >> >> > might be gay.
> >> >> You're wrong. Most parents if given the choice would abort a homo
> >> >> fetus.
> >> > If only your parents had felt that way, we'd be putting up with a hell
> >> > of a lot less sissy-braying around here.
> >> You've got a good point. My parents had just one child - Me.

> > Why on Earth would they risk getting another POS like you, sissy?

>
> Your jealousy has no limits I see.
>
> >> Had they had 5 kids like me, well-hung, full-on hetero, maybe the braying
> >> fags would seem less in number.

> > Your insistence on both counts is a pretty good indication that you
> > are neither, tiny! LOL!

>
> Jealousy is a monster....


Yeah, I'm so jealous that I'm not a closetted, cowardly, ignorant
racist with a tiny endowment like you, sissy! LOL!
 
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