Guest Pookie Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 Reversal of 'Eavesdropping' Ruling Ignored After Bush Loss Touted Last August, when one federal judge ruled unconstitutional the monitoring of overseas phone calls with suspected terrorists, the ABC, CBS and NBC evening newscasts all highlighted the defeat for the Bush administration. But on Friday, after an appeals court overturned the earlier decision, ABC and CBS were silent while NBC again distorted the policy as "domestic spying." Last August 17, ABC's World News anchor Charles Gibson teased: "A federal judge tells the Bush administration one of its main terror-fighting tools violates the Constitution." Gibson introduced the story of the "major legal defeat" for the Bush administration and correspondent Martha Raddatz filed a full report in which she described the ruling as a "significant blow" to the administration. While the words "Domestic Surveillance" were displayed on screen, NBC anchor Campbell Brown relayed that the judge "harshly condemned" the program. Yet, eleven months later, though Gibson anchored Friday night during the holiday week, ABC's World News skipped the reversal from the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals as ABC led with the problem of people defrauding the government of Hurricane Katrina relief money. Neither ABC or CBS caught up on Saturday night. With "Domestic Spying" on screen, fill-in anchor Lester Holt read this short item on the July 6 NBC Nightly News: "A victory for the Bush administration today in the ongoing dispute over its warrantless wiretapping program. A federal appeals court dismissed a lawsuit challenging the program, saying the plaintiffs, which included the American Civil Liberties Union, had no standing to sue. The decision overturned a lower court ruling that the program violated privacy and free speech rights. The appeals court ruled 2 to 1 that the plaintiffs couldn't prove they were spied upon." MSNBC's Keith Olbermann also ignored Friday's ruling on his Countdown show, while last August he had trumpeted that day's anti-Bush court decision by interviewing liberal law professor Jonathan Turley, who maintained that Bush "could well have committed a federal crime not once, but 30 times." Olbermann had hailed the August ruling as a "judicial smackdown" and a "stunning ruling" against the program, and had repeatedly referred to the NSA program as monitoring "our" phone calls or "our" e-mails. But the Countdown host did introduce Friday's show by trumpeting comments by former Reagan administration NSA director William Odom about the possibility of impeaching President Bush: "The top National Security officer from the Reagan administration insisting that the only way to protect the troops in Iraq is to get the Bush administration to bring them home, and the only way to do that may be to threaten the President directly with impeachment." (Transcript at end of this article) [This item is based on a Saturday posting, by Brad Wilmouth, on the MRC's NewsBusters blog: newsbusters.org ] While a Carter-nominated judge issued the 2006 ruling, the two judges in the majority on Friday were named by Presidents George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush. July 7 Boston Globe story, "Court gives Bush win on surveillance," online at: http://www.boston.com The networks are interested in some terrorism-related federal appeals court rulings, at least those in which the Bush administration is on the losing side. The Tuesday, June 12 CyberAlert, "Lead with 'Rebuke' of Bush on Terror Suspect; Skip Clinton Role," documented: ABC and CBS on Monday night led by celebrating a 2-to-1 federal appeals court ruling against the Bush administration's policy of holding a sleeper cell suspect at a military brig without redress in civilian courts, but in eagerly quoting from the ruling neither bothered to mention that the two judges in the majority were Clinton appointees. "Tonight," Charles Gibson teased at the top of World News, "a stinging rejection for the President." Gibson set up his lead story by marveling at how "it is not often you will see a federal court call a policy of the President's 'disastrous.'" Gibson recited how the appeals court "says the President 'claims power that far exceeds that granted him by the Constitution,' a strong rebuke of the administration," a characterization soon repeated by ABC legal reporter Jan Crawford Greenburg: "The language in this decision is almost indignant, it's a sharp rebuke to these policies of President Bush..." ABC also featured the suspect's attorney, who asserted: "The court is warning is that if they can do that to Mr. Al Marri, they can do it to you, they can do it to your mother." With "Bush Setback" on screen, CBS anchor Katie Couric trumpeted "a big defeat for President Bush." Reporter Wyatt Andrews relayed how "the ruling bluntly tells President Bush he has gone too far arresting civilians as enemy combatants," but he at least quoted a clause from the dissenting judge before concluding by describing the ideology of the court circuit without regard for who nominated the two judges who issued the ruling: "This is a case the White House lost in the appeals court in Richmond, Virginia, perhaps the nation's most conservative. And while the President is still arguing he has unquestioned authority to detain terror suspects, the courts are now firmly saying he does not."... For the entire CyberAlert: http://www.mrc.org Last year, the networks pounced on the rebuke of the Bush policy from the single federal judge. The Friday, August 18, 2006 CyberAlert, "Nets Skip Weaknesses in NSA Surveillance Ruling by Liberal Judge," recounted: All three broadcast network evening newscasts on Thursday covered the ruling by a federal judge against the Bush administration's controversial NSA spying program that involves warrantless monitoring of international phone calls when one participant is a terrorist suspect. Stemming from a case filed by the ACLU and other plaintiffs, Judge Ann Diggs Taylor, a Detroit-based Carter appointee, found the program to be unconstitutional. Unlike CNN and FNC, which conveyed that the ruling would likely be overturned, none of the network evening newscasts mentioned the liberal credentials of Judge Taylor or the debate over judicial activism and legal weaknesses in the ruling, such as the issue of whether the plaintiffs had standing to file the lawsuit, since the plaintiffs themselves were not found to be the subjects of surveillance. On ABC's World News with Charles Gibson, Gibson introduced the story of the "major legal defeat" for the Bush administration, and correspondent Martha Raddatz filed a full report on the ruling in which she described the ruling as a "significant blow" to the administration, showing a soundbite of plaintiff James Bamford arguing that the ruling means the President "isn't a king." While she did at least provide some balance by relaying that "many national security experts" argue the program is essential, followed by a supporting soundbite from James Garafano of the Heritage Foundation, Raddatz did not delve into any legal weaknesses of the ruling itself. The CBS Evening News and the NBC Nightly News only ran anchor-read stories, during which CBS's Bob Schieffer, uniquely among the networks, pointed out that those subjected to surveillance were "suspected of having ties to terrorists." And while ABC's Gibson did at least mention that the surveillance involved "overseas phone calls from this country," NBC's Campbell Brown did not even mention the international nature of the calls, while the words "Domestic Surveillance" were displayed on the screen next to her. Brown relayed that Judge Taylor "harshly condemned" the program. On FNC's Special Report with Brit Hume, correspondent Bret Baier mentioned that Judge Taylor was a Carter appointee, and the show also gave attention to the debate over whether the plaintiffs in the case had standing to file their lawsuit. During the "Fox All Stars" panel segment, Fortune magazine's Nina Easton talked about feedback she had received that the "legal reasoning on it was thin," and addressed the issue of standing: "And this question of the standing of these folks you're talking about, the scholars and the journalists and so on, and whether they actually had standing to bring this suit, well, she [Judge Taylor] wrestled with some of those questions, but then she dismissed the other concerns, saying, well, if they don't have standing, then who's going to keep the President, who's going to keep the President, hold his feet to the fire and who's going to let courts come in and hold him accountable? It's like, well, I gotta give him standing, and so I thought that was extremely telling."... For the August 18, 2006 CyberAlert in full: http://www.mrc.org The Monday, August 21, 2006 CyberAlert item, "Olbermann Bolsters 'Smackdown' of Spying on 'Our' Phone Calls," reported: On Thursday's Countdown, MSNBC's Keith Olbermann bolstered the ruling by federal Judge Ann Diggs Taylor against the Bush administration's controversial NSA spying program that involves warrantless monitoring of international phone calls when one participant is a terrorist suspect. Referring to the ruling as a "judicial smackdown" and a "stunning ruling" against the program, Olbermann repeatedly referred to the NSA program as monitoring "our" phone calls or "our" emails. The MSNBC host further contended that since the program was revealed, "anybody who had actually read the Constitution" believed it would eventually be ruled as "patently illegal." Olbermann's guest discussing the topic was liberal law professor Jonathan Turley, who labeled Judge Taylor's ruling as a "very thoughtful opinion," called efforts by conservatives to discredit her as a liberal Carter appointee as "distasteful" and maintained President Bush "could well have committed a federal crime not once, but 30 times." For the August 21, 2006 CyberAlert in full: http://www.mrc.org But, as noted above, last Friday Keith Olbermann wasn't interested in the overturning of that ruling. Instead, he hyped a call to impeach Bush. From the Friday, July 6 Countdown: Olbermann, in opening teaser: "The Odom plan: The director of the National Security Agency, the NSA, under Ronald Reagan, General William Odom, says the best way to support the troops in Iraq is to get them home from Iraq, and that the administration is so out of control, that the only way to make that happen is to threaten the President with impeachment if he does not agree." Olbermann, introducing his lead story: "Good evening from New York. It has been thus on every sinking ship from Titanic to the SS Minnow of Gilligan's Island. A few far-thinking visionaries try to get off first to get others to leave with them, then others begin to file off one by one, and after them, the deluge. And so it is for the Bush administration's policy in Iraq. Our fifth story on the Countdown, conservative Republican Senator Pete Domenici yesterday, conservative Republican Congressman John Doolittle today. Hope you can swim, boys. "This while the top National Security officer from the Reagan administration insisting that the only way to protect the troops in Iraq is to get the Bush administration to bring them home, and the only way to do that may be to threaten the President directly with impeachment. The Commander-in-Chief having now supported the troops to a death toll of 3,592 with no end in sight. Conservative Congressman Doolittle of California, one-time Mormon missionary, today joining the others in his party in questioning whether the conflict is worth the loss of any more American lives. His remarks, though, making the Congressman sound less like a great humanitarian or patriot, and rather more like a huge xenophobe. 'I am increasingly convinced,' said Mr. Doolittle, 'that we are never going to succeed in actually ending people dying in Iraq. I think it's going to be a constant conflict...and if that is going to happen...it needs to be the Iraqis dying and not the Americans.' "The White House saying today it views any sort of precipitous withdrawal from Iraq as dangerous, the Pentagon that leaving early would leave that country a mess, but Lieutenant General William Odom, the director of National Security for President Reagan, the Bush administration says that, he says that the Bush administration, rather, should no longer be allowed to determine the vocabulary for the debate. General Odom's contention that supporting the troops actually means bringing them home, and now. Mr. Odom pointing out that Congress clearly and indisputably has two powers over the executive: the power of the purse and power to impeach. Should the first option fail, Mr. Odom saying lawmakers should not be afraid to threaten the second, having ample justification to do so. 'An attempt to extort Congress into providing funds by keeping U.S. forces in peril...surely would constitute the 'high crime' of squandering the lives of soldiers and Marines for his,' the President's, 'own personal interest.'" http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2007/cyb20070709.asp#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Impeachment Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote in message news:vxtki.5$p77.0@newsfe12.lga... I'm glad you hate Amurkah. It gives Amerkins reason to execute traitors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Joe S. Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote in message news:vxtki.5$p77.0@newsfe12.lga... > Reversal of 'Eavesdropping' Ruling Ignored > After Bush Loss Touted Where are the WMD translations??? Did the Russian Spetznaz make off with them?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Amanda Williams Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> allegedly said in news:vxtki.5$p77.0@newsfe12.lga: > Reversal of 'Eavesdropping' Ruling Ignored > After Bush Loss Touted > Last August, when one federal judge ruled unconstitutional the > monitoring of overseas phone calls with suspected terrorists, the ABC, > CBS and NBC evening newscasts all highlighted the defeat for the Bush > administration. >But on Friday, after an appeals court overturned the earlier decision, ABC > and CBS were silent while NBC again distorted the policy as "domestic > spying." Well I guess for the very same reason that FUX "news" ignored it except in passing and that's because it wasn't a reversal of the ruling that it was UNCONSTITUTIONAL (which WOULD have been news) you drooling fucking moron, all it was was the dismissal of an UNRELATED CIVIL LAWSUIT because the judges (well 2 bush morons actually) decided the ACLU and the others didn't have standing. What sort of lunatic drivel are you cutting and pasting these days Pukie??? > > http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2007/cyb20070709.asp#1 Ahhh... MRC... now it all becomes clear... rotfl.. FFS Pukie, get a grip, try reading some of the drivel you cut and paste... Gonzo Funeral Watch: 119 days 15 hours 35 minutes and counting -- AW <small but dangerous> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pookie Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 "Joe S." <noname@nosuch.net> wrote in message news:f6u099028bj@news1.newsguy.com... > > "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote in message > news:vxtki.5$p77.0@newsfe12.lga... >> Reversal of 'Eavesdropping' Ruling Ignored >> After Bush Loss Touted > > > Where are the WMD translations??? Did the Russian Spetznaz make off with > them?? http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/20556/2005871809057513959_rs.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kevin Cunningham Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote in message news:vxtki.5$p77.0@newsfe12.lga... > Reversal of 'Eavesdropping' Ruling Ignored > After Bush Loss Touted > Last August, when one federal judge ruled unconstitutional the > monitoring of overseas phone calls with suspected terrorists, Ok, idiot, how was the ruling unconstitutional. Were waiting..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pookie Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 "Kevin Cunningham" <smskjv@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:g9oli.6833$Od7.4252@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... > > "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote in message > news:vxtki.5$p77.0@newsfe12.lga... >> Reversal of 'Eavesdropping' Ruling Ignored >> After Bush Loss Touted >> Last August, when one federal judge ruled unconstitutional the >> monitoring of overseas phone calls with suspected terrorists, > > Ok, idiot, how was the ruling unconstitutional. Were waiting..... Look it up yourself, you useless lazy sack of shit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Amanda Williams Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> allegedly said in news:Iowli.34$Ri7.12 @newsfe12.lga: > > "Kevin Cunningham" <smskjv@mindspring.com> wrote in message > news:g9oli.6833$Od7.4252@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> >> "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote in message >> news:vxtki.5$p77.0@newsfe12.lga... >>> Reversal of 'Eavesdropping' Ruling Ignored >>> After Bush Loss Touted >>> Last August, when one federal judge ruled unconstitutional the >>> monitoring of overseas phone calls with suspected terrorists, >> >> Ok, idiot, how was the ruling unconstitutional. Were waiting..... > > Look it up yourself, you useless lazy sack of shit... Translation: I pulled it out of my ass.... No need to thank me, I just LIVE to clarify things... <snicker> Gonzo Funeral Watch: 122 days 19 hours 21 minutes and counting -- AW <small but dangerous> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pookie Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 "Amanda Williams" <pms@fu.com> wrote in message news:Xns996BC4F2AC525fubar@63.218.45.254... > "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> allegedly said in > news:Iowli.34$Ri7.12 > @newsfe12.lga: > >> >> "Kevin Cunningham" <smskjv@mindspring.com> wrote in message >> news:g9oli.6833$Od7.4252@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... >>> >>> "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote in message >>> news:vxtki.5$p77.0@newsfe12.lga... >>>> Reversal of 'Eavesdropping' Ruling Ignored >>>> After Bush Loss Touted >>>> Last August, when one federal judge ruled unconstitutional the >>>> monitoring of overseas phone calls with suspected terrorists, >>> >>> Ok, idiot, how was the ruling unconstitutional. Were waiting..... >> >> Look it up yourself, you useless lazy sack of shit... > > Translation: > > I pulled it out of my ass.... > > No need to thank me, I just LIVE to clarify things... > > <snicker> Another lazy libloon...look it up...it's not like you have a job or anything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Amanda Williams Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> allegedly said in news:G_Gli.186 $yg3.143@newsfe12.lga: > > "Amanda Williams" <pms@fu.com> wrote in message > news:Xns996BC4F2AC525fubar@63.218.45.254... >> "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> allegedly said in >> news:Iowli.34$Ri7.12 >> @newsfe12.lga: >> >>> >>> "Kevin Cunningham" <smskjv@mindspring.com> wrote in message >>> news:g9oli.6833$Od7.4252@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... >>>> >>>> "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote in message >>>> news:vxtki.5$p77.0@newsfe12.lga... >>>>> Reversal of 'Eavesdropping' Ruling Ignored >>>>> After Bush Loss Touted >>>>> Last August, when one federal judge ruled unconstitutional the >>>>> monitoring of overseas phone calls with suspected terrorists, >>>> >>>> Ok, idiot, how was the ruling unconstitutional. Were waiting..... >>> >>> Look it up yourself, you useless lazy sack of shit... >> >> Translation: >> >> I pulled it out of my ass.... >> >> No need to thank me, I just LIVE to clarify things... >> >> <snicker> > > Another lazy libloon...look it up...it's not like you have a job or > anything... Translation: Damn I got caught... nothing left to do but keep babbling and hope everybody goes away... Gonzo Funeral Watch: 123 days 6 hours 24 minutes and counting -- AW <small but dangerous> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pookie Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 "Amanda Williams" <pms@fu.com> wrote in message news:Xns996C4147F385Ffubar@63.218.45.254... > "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> allegedly said in news:G_Gli.186 > $yg3.143@newsfe12.lga: > >> >> "Amanda Williams" <pms@fu.com> wrote in message >> news:Xns996BC4F2AC525fubar@63.218.45.254... >>> "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> allegedly said in >>> news:Iowli.34$Ri7.12 >>> @newsfe12.lga: >>> >>>> >>>> "Kevin Cunningham" <smskjv@mindspring.com> wrote in message >>>> news:g9oli.6833$Od7.4252@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... >>>>> >>>>> "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:vxtki.5$p77.0@newsfe12.lga... >>>>>> Reversal of 'Eavesdropping' Ruling Ignored >>>>>> After Bush Loss Touted >>>>>> Last August, when one federal judge ruled unconstitutional the >>>>>> monitoring of overseas phone calls with suspected terrorists, >>>>> >>>>> Ok, idiot, how was the ruling unconstitutional. Were waiting..... >>>> >>>> Look it up yourself, you useless lazy sack of shit... >>> >>> Translation: >>> >>> I pulled it out of my ass.... >>> >>> No need to thank me, I just LIVE to clarify things... >>> >>> <snicker> >> >> Another lazy libloon...look it up...it's not like you have a job or >> anything... > > Translation: > > Damn I got caught... nothing left to do but keep babbling and hope > everybody goes away... Translation: I'm a lazy libloon & don't have time to look it up, but spend my time instead posting continual inanities... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pookie Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 "." <.@.com> wrote in message news:4697776d$1@nntp.zianet.com... > Pookie wrote: >> "Amanda Williams" <pms@fu.com> wrote in message >> news:Xns996BC4F2AC525fubar@63.218.45.254... >>> "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> allegedly said in >>> news:Iowli.34$Ri7.12 >>> @newsfe12.lga: >>> >>>> "Kevin Cunningham" <smskjv@mindspring.com> wrote in message >>>> news:g9oli.6833$Od7.4252@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... >>>>> "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:vxtki.5$p77.0@newsfe12.lga... >>>>>> Reversal of 'Eavesdropping' Ruling Ignored >>>>>> After Bush Loss Touted >>>>>> Last August, when one federal judge ruled unconstitutional the >>>>>> monitoring of overseas phone calls with suspected terrorists, >>>>> Ok, idiot, how was the ruling unconstitutional. Were waiting..... >>>> Look it up yourself, you useless lazy sack of shit... >>> Translation: >>> >>> I pulled it out of my ass.... >>> >>> No need to thank me, I just LIVE to clarify things... >>> >>> <snicker> >> >> Another lazy libloon...look it up...it's not like you have a job or >> anything... > Translation: Poopie got his fat white Republican ass handed to him - > AGAIN.. > > LOOK IT UP, Poopie! > > You stupid asshole. Here ya go you sack of shit: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-09,GGLD:en&q=Eavesdropping+program+ruled+unconstitutional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pookie Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 "Amanda Williams" <pms@fu.com> wrote in message news:Xns996C4147F385Ffubar@63.218.45.254... > "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> allegedly said in news:G_Gli.186 > $yg3.143@newsfe12.lga: > >> >> "Amanda Williams" <pms@fu.com> wrote in message >> news:Xns996BC4F2AC525fubar@63.218.45.254... >>> "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> allegedly said in >>> news:Iowli.34$Ri7.12 >>> @newsfe12.lga: >>> >>>> >>>> "Kevin Cunningham" <smskjv@mindspring.com> wrote in message >>>> news:g9oli.6833$Od7.4252@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... >>>>> >>>>> "Pookie" <pookie18323@optonline.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:vxtki.5$p77.0@newsfe12.lga... >>>>>> Reversal of 'Eavesdropping' Ruling Ignored >>>>>> After Bush Loss Touted >>>>>> Last August, when one federal judge ruled unconstitutional the >>>>>> monitoring of overseas phone calls with suspected terrorists, >>>>> >>>>> Ok, idiot, how was the ruling unconstitutional. Were waiting..... >>>> >>>> Look it up yourself, you useless lazy sack of shit... >>> >>> Translation: >>> >>> I pulled it out of my ass.... >>> >>> No need to thank me, I just LIVE to clarify things... >>> >>> <snicker> >> >> Another lazy libloon...look it up...it's not like you have a job or >> anything... > > Translation: > > Damn I got caught... nothing left to do but keep babbling and hope > everybody goes away... http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-09,GGLD:en&q=Eavesdropping+program+ruled+unconstitutional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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