Rewarding bad bahavior?

[timesjoke]

Pregnant mother-of-13 says 'I will keep having babies until I have twins' | Mail Online

To put the story short, this is a woman living mostly on public assistence who is having her 14th child and says she will keep on having more children until she has twins.

"She said: 'All I've ever wanted is twins or triplets. It's my biggest wish, and I'm going to keep trying until I do it.


'It would be fantastic. In fact, I won't stop trying until I've done it. I love having babies - it's the most wonderful thing in the world.' "

My question is why is the Government still rewarding this woman's bad behavior? She knows she can't afford to support her own children but she still gets pregnant every year and admits she is going to keep going until she has twins so my question is two parts........

1- Should the Government take action to protect tax funds from people like this?

2- Is there any possible child welfare concerns with spitting out babies like a pezz dispenser when you don't even have bedrooms for the children you have?

 

[emkay64]

I believe in mandatory sterilization for this maroon. She's stunned.

 

[eddo]

I believe in mandatory sterilization for this maroon. She's stunned.

I completely agree- but only because she is on gov't aid.

if she could support them on her own, then have at it.

 

[RegisteredAndEducated]

I completely agree- but only because she is on gov't aid.

if she could support them on her own, then have at it.

I could not have said it better myself.

 

[timesjoke]

I believe in mandatory sterilization for this maroon. She's stunned.

There was a story I remember reading from Canda where a woman there had around 16 kids and they figued up the Canadian Government will pay her over a million dollars just for having babies.

I wonder at why our society is paying people to behave poorly? We had a discussion of a story where a small group was paying girls (that had to be used for higher education) to not get pregnant, if you ask me......my tax dollar, I would rather pay the girl to get an education.

In fact that is the only "welfare" I would agree with.

Eliminate all programs that reward sitting at home making babies and instead give every child who can handle it a 4 year college education for free.

Why?

Because a better educated person is more likely to be more motivated, have a higher self-respect, and earn more money. That higher earner is paying a lifetime of taxes all based on the education he/she received and will pay back what was given them in time.

 

[snafu]

Well I would asume the goverment would ask who the father or fathers are and collect child support from them. She would then have to remburse the goverment.. Right?

 

[hugo]

Maybe she will get her own reality show and get off the public dole.

 

[timesjoke]

Well I would asume the goverment would ask who the father or fathers are and collect child support from them. She would then have to remburse the goverment.. Right?

Assuming the father has a job.....or that the woman knows who the father is......even if she knows she could give false info knowing the support she will get from the Government will be better than what she will get from the piece of garbage she let get her pregnant.

Sort of on topic for rewarding bad behavior, did you know "most" states allow women to trap men with fraud to get them to pay child support for a child that is not their child?

Here is one popular scam:

Woman knows of man who travels a lot and is out of town, she gives his name and a false address for him when she files for paternity/child support order with the courts. If the man does not find out about the order and files a appeal within 1 year of the original order, he can "NEVER" get that order changed even with DNA evidence proving he is not the father.

This is possible in over 30 states including my own State of Florida.

You know Hugo, I have real issues with these mothers who exploit their children on these reality shows like that kate plus 8 (not sure of the name, never watched it) where a woman basically ended her marriage on the reality show and had 8 children all mixed up with it. I can't imagine how many issues could spring up with kids in school and dealing with their train wreck lives exposed to everyone.....

 

[eddo]

the article suggested that her live in "significant other" was the father of all the kids- the second one is named after him.

 

[hugo]

I wonder at why our society is paying people to behave poorly? We had a discussion of a story where a small group was paying girls (that had to be used for higher education) to not get pregnant, if you ask me......my tax dollar, I would rather pay the girl to get an education.



In fact that is the only "welfare" I would agree with.

Eliminate all programs that reward sitting at home making babies and instead give every child who can handle it a 4 year college education for free.

Because a better educated person is more likely to be more motivated, have a higher self-respect, and earn more money. That higher earner is paying a lifetime of taxes all based on the education he/she received and will pay back what was given them in time.

US Government: 71% percent of college graduates can't read proficiently nces.ed.gov ? The National Center for Education Statistics just released their latest survey of adult English literacy in the United States. According to the study, 95.4% of high school graduates and 71% of college graduates cannot read proficiently. This means they can't compute the cost per once of food or compare and contrast two op-eds, among other things

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Got enough idiots with college educations already.

 

[RegisteredAndEducated]

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Got enough idiots with college educations already.

US Government: 71% percent of college graduates can't read proficientlynces.ed.gov ? The National Center for Education Statistics just released their latest survey of adult English literacy in the United States. According to the study, 95.4% of high school graduates and 71% of college graduates cannot read proficiently. This means they can't compute the cost per once of food or compare and contrast two op-eds, among other things

I hope that wasn't supposed to be ounce...

 

[eddo]

I hope that wasn't supposed to be ounce...

LMAO!!!!

oops! That's like something I would do!

 

[hugo]

I hope that wasn't supposed to be ounce...

The author probably one of dem college graduates.

 

[timesjoke]

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Got enough idiots with college educations already.

Sounds more like a problem with horrible teachers and a lack of standards in our locations of learning then anything else. How could a school pass someone who can't read?

But let me put it this way, an education could not hurt someone's chances either. certainly that is better than cutting checks for people to sit at home smoking pot and eating cheesy poofs?

 

[atlantic]

My ? is why? I truly cannot understand people's selfishness.

I also feel the government should not support such women. In every case I've known (and I mean every) the welfare mom was a ty mother, who not only did not provide food for their children or protection. They could care less about the kids. It seemed to me they were looking for a free ride. Now I'm sure this is not the case in every situation, unfortunately all the cases I've seen however.

Also, if you cannot afford the kids, THEN STOP POPPING THEM OUT FOR F CKS SAKE. It is not fair to the children either. My mom was on welfare when I was a child. I was so embarrased I refused to eat free lunch. To me it was always a stigma and an embarrassment. Her parenting skills sucked *** too - but didn't stop her from getting her check every month - not that I ever saw any of it.

NO the government should force these women to get a college education and deny any additional birth support and make sure the women know this will happen upon first enrolling. Otherwise, you simply have a reward system for bad parents.

 

[timesjoke]

It stands to reason if you tell people that they can make more money if they have more children, that "some" women will do exactly that.

At the very least there should only be one payout amount, it is not fair to people who apply restraint to get paid less money then women who have no self control at all over their reproductive system. I hate welfare as it is anyway, but we should not be rewarding people who on purpose make their situation worse.

I also believe anyone on public assistence should have to submit to drug testing so we can prove no tax funds are going to drug dealers. If you have plenty of money for drugs then you do not need welfare.

 

[hugo]

I think merc said it best; "Kill all the welfare bums. Kill them all!"