ridingred Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 After reading some posts about 2 seperate machines having metal shavings after running Rotella, i wanted to see if others are noticing the same thing. I've been running this stuff in lots of machines over the past few years and have never seen a problem, but i have heard just about every reason not to run it. My local buddies say not to run it because it's not designed for high revving motors, or wet clutches, etc.....this is all talk since these guys don't have any first hand experience, they are just assuming since it's labeled as a diesel oil and it's cheap, that it's crap. I personally love this oil and have not seen metal shavings due to running it. Does anybody else have EXPERIENCE with this oil and if so what are you results? If you have never ran rotella, please don't comment, but if you've been running it for awhile or if you recently quit running it, i'd love to hear the results! Quote 05, 13:1 JE, 02 crf cam, full hmf, razr tt tires, rath sway bar, lowering link in the rear, triple rate rebuilds on front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckinfuts Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 So far it's caused my rod to snap, blowing out cases, broken cylinder, bent intake valves, wobbly crank, kinked starter and a bent fuel screw but never has it had shavings in the filter. Quote http://450rhq.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/450c01f25139ab7ef7d638c0209599ef.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoppes27 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 So far it's caused my rod to snap, blowing out cases, broken cylinder, bent intake valves, wobbly crank, kinked starter and a bent fuel screw but never has it had shavings in the filter. I'm sure it's the oil and has nothing to do with the power output of your 450 I run it in both my 450's with no bad results. Quote Racers Edge Powered 2006 trx450 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phantom Z Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I've seen it cause a lot of seats to crack and increased tire wear. :gr_jest: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridingred Posted May 8, 2012 Author Share Posted May 8, 2012 haha nuckin yours doesn't count, lol. Quote 05, 13:1 JE, 02 crf cam, full hmf, razr tt tires, rath sway bar, lowering link in the rear, triple rate rebuilds on front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
450Riot Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 It also causes alot of orguments. On topic - I've never used the stuff in my quad. But I can still give my opinion right? I'd never use it. Quote 2004 Honda Trx450Riot Kicker Dasa K&N Motul Kenda Pro Taper Motion Pro Streamline Blingstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phantom Z Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 RR honestly this debate could go on and on, go over to any car site and I promise you oil vs oil is being discussed. I think it was mentioned in the other thread that use what works for you. If you use it and find no shavings then keep on keepin on. And I don't recall anyone saying the the Rotella itself caused the shavings, but I am what's known as a skimmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridingred Posted May 8, 2012 Author Share Posted May 8, 2012 this is not an oil vs oil thread and i did not start it to debate. I'm asking if anybody that has real world experience with rotella has ever had an issue that was due to running this oil. I run this oil and i'm looking for information from other guys that also run it. Rotella works for me but if it messes up somebody elses motor or 2 motors i'll certainly stop using it asap! I don't know what was said, i'm not sure if anybody said "Rotella itself caused the shavings", i believe the poster said that they do not run it because they found shavings in 2 motors after using it, then they switched to a different oil and did not have shavings, so......you can make the call on that one. again, just to be clear i'm looking for real world opinions on this oil, if nobody else has had problems then we can most definitely rule out the Rotella as causing the shavings, that's my concern if it's harmful i don't want to run it, if lots of other guys don't have issues with it, i will keep running it. i personally have not seen shavings, but maybe i'm getting lucky, maybe there's something i can avoid if this stuff truly is crappy. Quote 05, 13:1 JE, 02 crf cam, full hmf, razr tt tires, rath sway bar, lowering link in the rear, triple rate rebuilds on front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grtrat1 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Now that I think about it... My tranny side the oil comes out kinda grayish... Neighbor said it was normal.. He uses Honda oil (06 450r)and it comes out grayish also(so he says) Quote http://www.offtopic.forum/images/sig.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridingred Posted May 8, 2012 Author Share Posted May 8, 2012 yeah that's normal, just clutch fibers, i see that with all the oil even the honda red will show it. i'm more concerned about people finding metal shavings similar to what was mentioned like the basket getting tore up, or tranny getting messed up, or even on the motor side if people are seeing shavings with rotella on the motor side, i'm interested to know about it. Quote 05, 13:1 JE, 02 crf cam, full hmf, razr tt tires, rath sway bar, lowering link in the rear, triple rate rebuilds on front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
450Riot Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 For what it's worth since we're on the topic I had gray tranny oil when it came to dump the honda gn4 out. Now that I run motul it goes in green and comes out the same green. So real world testing, motul shears less. Quote 2004 Honda Trx450Riot Kicker Dasa K&N Motul Kenda Pro Taper Motion Pro Streamline Blingstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPCones Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Oil, Oil, Oil, hmmmmm. Quote http://450rhq.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/508e07386c71becab2bf881014f51ad6.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvet4dog Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I run rotella oil and have used it since my 2nd oil change. I had this bike for two years and i have not seen any metal shavings. Quote 07 trx450r http://450rhq.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/cd3b5c0a9ec786930d0a92290fd034b5.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadnut Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I`ve run Rotella T6 for 3 years in my 05 No issues yet !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadnut Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I've seen it cause a lot of seats to crack and increased tire wear. :gr_jest: Mixed with Jack Daniels it makes you grow hair !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxMurdocxX Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 i dont even use oil just run it without you will be fine!!!!!!!! lol Quote *06 trx450er Bone Stock = Blank Canvas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KansasTRX450R-Rider Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 personally, the oil from the factory is the best stuff. Just leave it in. :gr_wink: Quote 2004 TRX450R- Wiseco 11.5:1, Stage 2 Hotcam Velocity Intake, K&N Filter, Nmotion Shorty Pipe Sikk MX Grab Bar, Shaved Fenders, HID Lights, ASV Clutch Lever Duncan Seat, IMS Pegs, G-Force Hubs Sand- 8 Paddle Haulers on Polished .125 DWT Blue Labels 21X11X8 Dirt- Rear-Holeshots -- Front- Maxxis Razr 2's Tusk Clutch Kit W/ HD Springs Blingstar Iron Cross Bumper (2) +10 HP Stickers Stock Bore, Stock Stroke, Mixed Pump Gas, And Still Kickin' Ass!!! :lhdevil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
450Riot Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Is the chatbox not working? Quote 2004 Honda Trx450Riot Kicker Dasa K&N Motul Kenda Pro Taper Motion Pro Streamline Blingstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idahoduner Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 i ran it in my ltr all last year and this year also...no problems. i run the honda oil in the trx though Quote 2005 Trx450r- Built by HANSEN PERFORMANCE, It moves:gr_grin: 2007 ltr450-13.5-1 wisco, stg 1 hotcams, PCIV, Ron Woods exhaust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey726 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I've been running it in my motor side for about two years and haven't seen any problems. I tried it in the tranny side, but the clutch would screech when i took off, so I switched back to the honda red bottle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridingred Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 sounds like it's causing some issues for people on the tranny side. I think i'll switch over to red bottle to possibly avoid some of these issues in the future. Quote 05, 13:1 JE, 02 crf cam, full hmf, razr tt tires, rath sway bar, lowering link in the rear, triple rate rebuilds on front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckinfuts Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I ran the factory clutch in mine up until January. Sure the oil was gray but the fibers still looked new and are still within spec. That's been years of hammer down dunes, lots of trails and everything in between. Now its a back up clutch in my bag. Trans gears have always looked perfect upon every teardown I've have. I actually made a switch from the red bottle after seeing excessive wear on the gear teeth. Two years+ at 80hp+ and still great. I see no issues directly caused by running rotella in the transmission side. Quote http://450rhq.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/450c01f25139ab7ef7d638c0209599ef.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridingred Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 Is the chatbox not working? in the future send this to an admin, don't come into my thread and post some stupid question like that. You've posted several times in this thread without the basic criteria that i asked for. "EXPERIENCE with Rotella". You would never run it, that's fine, we don't care.....again i'm wanting real world experience, don't need you beefing up your post count at my expense, lol. with love, ~Ryan Quote 05, 13:1 JE, 02 crf cam, full hmf, razr tt tires, rath sway bar, lowering link in the rear, triple rate rebuilds on front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
450Riot Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Whoa whoa whoa. I'll admit I put an opinion where an opinion doesn't need to be. Misunderstood the thread/thought I was in another post. If anything I was trying to keep your thread clean and on point with the chatbox comment.. Quote 2004 Honda Trx450Riot Kicker Dasa K&N Motul Kenda Pro Taper Motion Pro Streamline Blingstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridingred Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 forgive me, i misunderstood your comment. i can see now that you were asking if the chatbox was working because of the few comments previous that were trolling comments, you were basically saying, take that stuff to the chat box. I get it now, sorry for snapping. Quote 05, 13:1 JE, 02 crf cam, full hmf, razr tt tires, rath sway bar, lowering link in the rear, triple rate rebuilds on front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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