Guest Smart American Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 As New York mayor, Rudy Giuliani billed obscure city agencies for tens of thousands of dollars in security expenses amassed during the time when he was beginning an extramarital relationship with future wife Judith Nathan in the Hamptons, according to previously undisclosed government records. The documents, obtained by Politico under New York's Freedom of Information Law, show that the mayoral costs had nothing to do with the functions of the little-known city offices that defrayed his tabs, including agencies responsible for regulating loft apartments, aiding the disabled and providing lawyers for indigent defendants. At the time, the mayor's office refused to explain the accounting to city auditors, citing "security." The Hamptons visits resulted in hotel, gas and other costs for Giuliani's New York Police Department security detail. Giuliani's relationship with Nathan is old news now, and Giuliani regularly asks voters on the campaign trail to forgive his "mistakes." DNC cancels L.A. debate Post-Lott GOP leadership comes into focus Are the Republicans ready for YouTube? It's also impossible to know whether the purpose of all the Hamptons trips was to see Nathan. A Giuliani spokeswoman declined to discuss any aspect of this story, which was explained in detail to her earlier this week. But the practice of transferring the travel expenses of Giuliani's security detail to the accounts of obscure mayoral offices has never been brought to light, despite behind-the-scenes criticism from the city comptroller weeks after Giuliani left office. The expenses first surfaced as Giuliani's two terms as mayor of New York drew to a close in 2001, when a city auditor stumbled across something unusual: $34,000 worth of travel expenses buried in the accounts of the New York City Loft Board. When the city's fiscal monitor asked for an explanation, Giuliani's aides refused, citing "security," said Jeff Simmons, a spokesman for the city comptroller. But American Express bills and travel documents obtained by Politico suggest another reason City Hall may have considered the documents sensitive: They detail three summers of visits to Southampton, the Long Island town where Nathan had an apartment. Auditors "were unable to verify that these expenses were for legitimate or necessary purposes," City Comptroller William Thompson wrote of the expenses from fiscal year 2000, which covers parts of 1999 and 2000. The letter, whose existence has not been previously reported, was also obtained under the Freedom of Information Law. Long Island bills The receipts tally the costs of hotel and gas bills for the police detectives who traveled everywhere with the mayor, according to cover sheets that label them "PD expenses" and travel authorizations that describe the trips. New York's mayor receives round-the-clock police protection, and there's no suggestion that Giuliani used his detail improperly on these trips. Many of the receipts are from hotels and gas stations on Long Island, where Giuliani reportedly began visiting Nathan's Southampton condominium in the summer of 1999, though Giuliani and Nathan have never discussed the beginning of their relationship. Nathan would go on to become Giuliani's third wife, but his second marriage was officially intact until the spring of 2000, and City Hall officials at the time responded to questions about his absences by saying he was spending time with his son and playing golf. The receipts have languished in city files since Giuliani left office, apparently in part because of City Hall's decision to bill police expenses to a range of little-known city offices. "There is no really good reason to do this except to have nobody know about it," Carol O'Cleireacain, a Brookings Institution senior fellow who was budget director under Giuliani's predecessor, David Dinkins, said of the unusual billing practices. A Giuliani spokeswoman, Sunny Mindel, declined to comment on any aspect of the travel documents or the billing arrangements. A Giuliani aide who would speak only on the condition of anonymity denied that the unorthodox billing practices were aimed at hiding the expenses, citing "accounting" and noting that they were billed to units of the mayor's office, not to outside city agencies. The aide declined to discuss Giuliani's visits to Long Island. Continue reading our story >> Page: 1 2 3 Join The Conversation (read all 185 comments) POSTReplies: 185 Viewed: 1039 gaglbert Location: pittsford, usa Party: Republican Reply #: 1 Date: Nov. 28, 2007 - 2:53 PM EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Of course, since the press lets Hillary get away with NEVER giving access to any of her important records, we don't know anything about her time as the president's wife and the expenses that went along with that, do we?? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Albert Reply Quote Report Abuse Tatem Location: Fountain Hills, AZ Party: Conservative Reply #: 2 Date: Nov. 28, 2007 - 2:54 PM EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thats ridiculous. Giuliani's fiscal policies may be great, but how he uses government funds in his personal life is disgusting. Huckabee would never do this sort of thing. Giuliani is going to continue downhill in the Iowa and New Hampshire polls, and he can forget about South Carolina. Reply Quote Report Abuse Harry Oz Location: NA Party: Independent Reply #: 3 Date: Nov. 28, 2007 - 2:55 PM EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is also the headline on drudge. You also will have Kerik in the middle of a trial in the general election. Why would republicans commit political suicide by nominating this guy? Rudy will be a disaster if he's the nominee. Reply Quote Report Abuse kwc57 Location: NA Party: Independent Reply #: 4 Date: Nov. 28, 2007 - 2:56 PM EST updated -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Boy, I wan't to see how Sean Hannity is going to spin this one. Bit to be fair to Hannity, this will in no way compare to his Stop Hillary Express where he talks about how she shouldn't be president because of her laugh and because she is mean. How could misuse of funds even begin to compare to something as evil as a laugh? Reply Quote Report Abuse Harry Oz Location: NA Party: Independent Reply #: 5 Date: Nov. 28, 2007 - 2:56 PM EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tatem Huckabee has huge ethics problems as well. It's also funny how Huckabee admires everything about Rudy. Reply Quote Report Abuse Harry Oz Location: NA Party: Independent Reply #: 6 Date: Nov. 28, 2007 - 2:57 PM EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- KW Sean and others will spin it because they are blinded by fear of Hillary . Reply Quote Report Abuse Tatem Location: Fountain Hills, AZ Party: Conservative Reply #: 7 Date: Nov. 28, 2007 - 2:58 PM EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thats true gaglbert. Hillary's and Bill's papers are still sealed in the government archives and although scheduled to be released in 2009 some say they will get pushed back to '11. Yet nobody questions her credentials or personal life, and its still unknown that she was put in charge by Ol' Bill of the papers back when he left office. She could release them if she wanted to, but of course won't. Reply Quote Report Abuse Iowa Location: NA Party: NA Reply #: 8 Date: Nov. 28, 2007 - 3:00 PM EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudy is a great man, and most importantly, he got results. I love how 36 days before the Iowa Caucus, we are talking about something that happend 8 years ago... Reply Quote Report Abuse Harry Oz Location: NA Party: Independent Reply #: 9 Date: Nov. 28, 2007 - 3:00 PM EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does that matter gaglbert? So just because Hillary is rotten, we have to accept a rotten Rudy? What has happened to the G.O.P.? Reply Quote Report Abuse Harry Oz Location: NA Party: Independent Reply #: 10 Date: Nov. 28, 2007 - 3:02 PM EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Get used to it Iowa. If Rudy is the nominee we will get constant Rudy baggage from the MSM. Rudy will be the biggest mistake in G.O.P. history if he's the nominee. Reply Quote Report Abuse elbeau Location: NA Party: NA Reply #: 11 Date: Nov. 28, 2007 - 3:02 PM EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wow...this is big. Goodbye Gules. Reply Quote Report Abuse freespeak Location: NA Party: NA Reply #: 12 Date: Nov. 28, 2007 - 3:03 PM EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is huge. I always wondered how in the world Rudy and Bush got kudos for 9/11. They FAILED on 9/11, right? Now we're finding out that Rudy was spending his time on Long Island having an affair in the days and weeks leading up to 9/11 -- and charging it to his police dept!! How can this be good for someone running for POTUS? And will the (gag) "values voters" continue to be complete hypocrites, or will they actually stand up against this kind of public and private deceit? Great journalism. I personally don't care about the private affair. But I certainly care, if the hotel bills were being paid for with public tax dollars. Reply Quote Report Abuse Tuco_bad Location: NA Party: Independent Reply #: 13 Date: Nov. 28, 2007 - 3:03 PM EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A better story is how Giuliani managed to spent $17 million when he ran for the Senate in 2000. Reply Quote Report Abuse Harry Oz Location: NA Party: Independent Reply #: 14 Date: Nov. 28, 2007 - 3:04 PM EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudy is: Pro Choice, Pro gun control, pro sanctuary city and he has more baggage than Imelda Marcos leaving a shoe store. Reply Quote Report Abuse Clifford J Replogle Location: Santa Barbara, CA Party: Independent Reply #: 15 Date: Nov. 28, 2007 - 3:05 PM EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What a life! Become a Public Servant and then bilk them for hundreds of thousands of dollars in a get your rocks off lifestyle. Wish I had the money to go to Law School. No not really - I enjoy sleeping at night with a clean conscience. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There is no spoon. Reply Quote Report Abuse elbeau Location: NA Party: NA Reply #: 16 Date: Nov. 28, 2007 - 3:06 PM EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This should make for a VERY fun debate tonight....if the other candidates have the guts to bring it up. Reply Quote Report Abuse Right-minded Frank Location: Salem, OR Party: Conservative Reply #: 17 Date: Nov. 28, 2007 - 3:06 PM EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What a leader does in his personal life should not reflect on his ability to be an executive no matter who pays for t. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Spock that's what Carvelle said about Bill. I guess things have changed. Reply Quote Report Abuse Daniel Millstone Location: New York, NY Party: NA Reply #: 18 Date: Nov. 28, 2007 - 3:07 PM EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wow! What great reporting! Thanks for putting this together. This fits well with the Giuliani-Kerik story. For Rudy G and his friends everything goes. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Millstone Reply Quote Report Abuse DMOnline Location: Grand Rapids, MI Party: Republican Reply #: 19 Date: Nov. 28, 2007 - 3:08 PM EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm not certain what the point of this alleged "scandal" story is. Giuliani wasn't to take security with him when he left NYC? Giuliani should've never left NYC? Giuliani should've paid for his own security out of his own pocket? Where's the scandal? If only the same standard were held to the Clintons. Mrs. Clinton's missing Rose Law Firm billing records would've kept her out of the Senate - not to mention the Presidency... dm http://both-right.blogspot.com...http://both-right.blogspot.com... align=left class=signaturehr_forum>DMOnline http://both-right.blogspot.com/ Reply Quote Report Abuse Harry Oz Location: NA Party: Independent Reply #: 20 Date: Nov. 28, 2007 - 3:08 PM EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sad!! Sad!! Some in the G.O.P. say support Rudy so we can have a chance to win a purple state, we will not win a red state when Rudy's baggage is laid out by the MSM. Romney is the only candidate with enough money to stop Rudy. Reply Quote Report Abuse Join The Conversation (read all 185 comments) YOU NEED TO LOG IN TO USE THIS SYSTEM! Login | Check Login Before you start composing please note that you will need to be a registered user of Politico.com to "join the conversation". 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