Schools pushing their PC agenda

[timesjoke]

Here we see another "judgement call" by school officials to try and manipulate young minds to be socialist:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/07/tensions-high-california-high-school-following-flag-flap/

Put short a couple kids wore American flag t-shirts, the school thought the sight of American flag shirts could cause problems and sent the kids home when they refused to take the shirts off and hide the American flag images.

At the same time 200 students skipped school, and demonstrated flying Mexican flags and not one student was punnished for skipping school.

I just can't believe such obvious double standards are allowed to exist in America. When we have to hide the American flag image just to make people happy in our schools, we have taken the PC thing way, way too far.

If people are so offended by the American flag, and so proud of their Mexican flag, why are they here? I don't want to kick them out for this but I don't understand the hostility against the place you "choose" to live. Almost every American has his roots from other Countries but America was called the "melting pot" because people came here to begin a new life, not to insult their Country of origin but to embrace something new and be respectful of their choice to be an American now.

In my opinion, people should be proud of their origins, but they should also be proud of their "choice" to be an American.

 

[mercury]

It's messed up, for sure. If the flag that represents the country you are residing in offends you, go back to where you or your people come from and wear or fly your own. And stop expecting what that flag stands for to benefit you. I don't understand how an American student (or even a group of them), wearing an American flag t-shirt, in an American school, on American soil would be offensive to anyone.

I shared a story on another site about an annual "culture clash" I used to witness:

My family comes from Irish stock. When I was a kid, we celebrated St Paddy's Day by dressing in green (of course), going to the parade downtown, then hitting a bar or 2 in Cork Town and finally heading to the AHO (Ancient Order of Hibernians) to party until they kicked us all out. My uncles family came from Poland, but he was always there for St. Paddy's - sometimes wearing a Polish flag shirt, sometimes with a little Polish flag on a stick in his shirt pocket, and sometimes just wearing Polish colors. He never wore green (except for the beer in his hand), or any of the silly hats or even a simple shamrock pin. The only thing I ever heard anyone say to him was "Hey, Sidorowicz! Can I buy ya a beer?"

 

[timesjoke]

http://toddstarnes.com/?p=559

Check that one out, again in California, art students all told to do their own projects, one student who is drawing an American Flag is told to do something else because what she is doing is offensive.

The girl and the parents want the teacher to say she is sorry, but the teacher refuses.

Why are our schools becomming so anit-American?

 

[emkay64]

She should be chastised for being unimaginative. The flag is not offensive at all...just boring

 

[timesjoke]

She should be chastised for being unimaginative. The flag is not offensive at all...just boring

I don't think imaginations are allowed in public schools anymore, consider in this case something that was considered great was a picture of Obama.

In the story it seems lioke everyone except the teacher is admitting this kind of thing was wrong, normally I would not say much should be done but if the teacher cannot see where her actions were wrong she should not be employed as a teacher. Consider that her paycheck comes from the same America she says it's flag is offensive. She has every right to her own opinions, but not to insert her political agenda into her classroom teachings. If this was a teacher pushing her chosen religion the ACLU would have already filed lawsuits about it, but becuase this is a teacher pushing a specific political agenda, that is no big deal to the ACLU.

I wonder what will be the result of all these young minds being manipulated into hating their Country and even hating themselves if they are white.

 

[emkay64]

"I wonder what will be the result of all these young minds being manipulated into hating their Country and even hating themselves if they are white. "

I think this statement is a little extreme. Bit of drama there

 

[timesjoke]

"I wonder what will be the result of all these young minds being manipulated into hating their Country and even hating themselves if they are white. "

I think this statement is a little extreme. Bit of drama there

Extreme?

All bad things happen over time, a gradual thing, not an overnight thing em.

One step at a time, first we allow one thing without comment, then another, then another because each one seems like a small thing but when we combine all the small things together we see a much larger harm on the horizon. Look at the Colorado school teacher who admits to infiltrating the tea party movement to try and rip it apart from the inside out, trying to steal social securtity numbers of members so he can use that information to mess with specific members. Did the school take steps to remove such a radical who is teaching students to even break the law (stealing and misusing social security numbers) and abusing his teaching possition to brainwashing students to his political beliefs?

Nope, they are very proud of their radical teacher.

Every day we see more and more stories of how teachers are getting more and more crazy, the women teachers molesting the boys is a pretty new big trend and they also get no or little punnishment for doing it. Do you think the school sending a child to get an abortion without telling the parents....actually encouraging the child to "NOT" tell her parents is a little extreme?

I would call that extreme.

How about this one:

http://www.news4jax.com/news/20603386/detail.html

Yes, the parent was making a point against the new policies of the school taking hours to release the kids from classes but the school decided to punnish the mother and child because nobody is allowed to question school policies. So they 'claimed' riding a horse was too dangerious and instead took the 8 year old to her home and left her all alone, what if something bad happened to this unsupervised child? Would the school take responsibility for it?

No.

While we are not all the way to the point I mentioned "yet" there is no doubt in my mind that we will get there if steps are not taken to stop the current trends.

 

[emkay64]

How does any of that relate to" hating their country or hating being white"? You're all over the map dude!

 

[timesjoke]

How does any of that relate to" hating their country or hating being white"? You're all over the map dude!

When teachers are going out of their way to put down the American flag. (hating America)

When teachers go out of their way to put down our rights to assemble and question establishment like attacking the tea parties.(hating America)

When teachers celebrate Multiculturalism and have special parties and assignments for every culture......except whites (hating whites)

When the teachers talk all about the evils of white people (Rodney King) and never mention anything they have done that is good. (hating whites)

When teachers even admit they are willing to break the law to sabotage political groups that tells children that only certain groups have the right to a voice, others (the liberals paint the tea parties as white racist movements).

When female teachers are given a slap on the wrist for molesting children and men are slammed, that teaches a double standard in America, not much to be proud of there. (hating America)

I am not all over the map, I am just able to see the bigger picture. There are more examples in my post but I will settle for these couple, this is enough to get the point made, you either will see it or not, but stop trying to put me down with comments like "your all over the place", if you wanted me to clarify you can just ask without the negative commentary, I don't do that to you.

 

[emkay64]

Yes TJ you are all encompassing...a real intellectual marvel. BTW you are the most single minded, narrow sighted, biased individual I have ever known...yup...I'm negative and I don't care. Bite me.

 

[timesjoke]

Yes TJ you are all encompassing...a real intellectual marvel. BTW you are the most single minded, narrow sighted, biased individual I have ever known...yup...I'm negative and I don't care. Bite me.

So because you do not agree with my assessment, I deserve to be called names? Could you just say you do not agree?

If I do not agree with you do I call you names?

I really have been working hard to be nicer to people and yet nobody else seems to be meeting me part way, why is that em?

Can't you figure out a way to not agree with me that does not include ripping me apart and calling me names? I don't want to bite you, I want to discuss things and if we do not agree on something, do so in a reasonable way that does not include either side tossing out insults and nasty accusations. In the past I would have joined you in the insult game and struck back in kind, today I am trying to learn from mistakes of the past and not create huge problems that everyone else has to endure.

 

[timesjoke]

Ten-year-old Leighann Adair came home in tears, terrified to tell her parents she'd been slapped with a week's worth of detention for possessing a contraband substance:

The forbidden fruit: a piece of Jolly Rancher candy.

A teacher at Brazos Elementary School in Wallis, Texas, took the unopened piece of candy away from the third-grader two weeks ago after a friend handed it to her.

Both Leighann and her friend were ordered to serve detention during lunch and recess, and they had to write an essay about what they did and why it was wrong.

"She came home crying," said her mother, Amber Brazda, explaining that Leighann "has never been in trouble before." "It’s an extreme punishment for something so small,� said Leighann’s stepfather Michael Brazda.

"What are they going to do, have candy sniffing dogs next?" her mother said.

But school officials are standing by the punishment. They say they have to be strict in order to enforce their no-gum, no-candy policy. Candy and gum, they say, can cause a mess.

Jack Ellis , superintendent for the Brazos Independent School District, says it's also a matter of following state guidelines to limit the amount of junk food in schools. "Whether or not I agree with the guidelines, we have to follow the rules," Ellis told KHOU-TV in Houston.

A piece of Jolly Ranchers candy has 23 calories and provides 2 percent of the daily value of carbohydrates. But there's nothing in the rules that compels a school to punish a student for possessing junk food, says Texas Department of Agriculture spokesman Bryan Black.

The department sent a letter to the school reminding staff that state policy doesn’t outline such punishments. "Our policy does not prohibit from sharing a Jolly Rancher with a friend," Black told FOXNews.com.

"If a parent wants to pack candy, it's their decision, not against school policy. A parent needs to decide what a student eats."

Though the state has dietary rules for schools -- mandating, for example, that food be baked, not fried -- disciplinary action is a local decision, Black told FOXNews.com. And Leighann's parents say the local decision routinely goes too far. "The school has a history of harsh punishments," Michael Brazda told FoxNews.com. "It's about time someone called them out on it."

He said students at the school are required to wear a belt, and a few months ago Leighann's brother was given in-house suspension for failing to wear one – even though the father said he called the school secretary to explain that their new puppy chewed up the boy's only belt that morning.

He said his son had to "sit in a room all day and stare at a wall."

Leighann’s family and members of the community plan to attend the next school board meeting to contest the school's stringent candy policy.

Though the family is trying to change the district's patterns, the parents say they plan to take their children out of the school district at the end of the year.

"I will put her in a private school if I have to," Amber Brazda said.

 

[RegisteredAndEducated]

Ten-year-old Leighann Adair came home in tears, terrified to tell her parents she'd been slapped with a week's worth of detention for possessing a contraband substance:

The forbidden fruit: a piece of Jolly Rancher candy.

A teacher at Brazos Elementary School in Wallis, Texas, took the unopened piece of candy away from the third-grader two weeks ago after a friend handed it to her.

Both Leighann and her friend were ordered to serve detention during lunch and recess, and they had to write an essay about what they did and why it was wrong.

"She came home crying," said her mother, Amber Brazda, explaining that Leighann "has never been in trouble before." "It’s an extreme punishment for something so small,� said Leighann’s stepfather Michael Brazda.

"What are they going to do, have candy sniffing dogs next?" her mother said.

But school officials are standing by the punishment. They say they have to be strict in order to enforce their no-gum, no-candy policy. Candy and gum, they say, can cause a mess.

Jack Ellis , superintendent for the Brazos Independent School District, says it's also a matter of following state guidelines to limit the amount of junk food in schools. "Whether or not I agree with the guidelines, we have to follow the rules," Ellis told KHOU-TV in Houston.

A piece of Jolly Ranchers candy has 23 calories and provides 2 percent of the daily value of carbohydrates. But there's nothing in the rules that compels a school to punish a student for possessing junk food, says Texas Department of Agriculture spokesman Bryan Black.

The department sent a letter to the school reminding staff that state policy doesn’t outline such punishments. "Our policy does not prohibit from sharing a Jolly Rancher with a friend," Black told FOXNews.com.

"If a parent wants to pack candy, it's their decision, not against school policy. A parent needs to decide what a student eats."

Though the state has dietary rules for schools -- mandating, for example, that food be baked, not fried -- disciplinary action is a local decision, Black told FOXNews.com. And Leighann's parents say the local decision routinely goes too far. "The school has a history of harsh punishments," Michael Brazda told FoxNews.com. "It's about time someone called them out on it."

He said students at the school are required to wear a belt, and a few months ago Leighann's brother was given in-house suspension for failing to wear one – even though the father said he called the school secretary to explain that their new puppy chewed up the boy's only belt that morning.

He said his son had to "sit in a room all day and stare at a wall."

Leighann’s family and members of the community plan to attend the next school board meeting to contest the school's stringent candy policy.

Though the family is trying to change the district's patterns, the parents say they plan to take their children out of the school district at the end of the year.

"I will put her in a private school if I have to," Amber Brazda said.

We need vouchers

 

[timesjoke]

We need vouchers

I like vouchers in some ways, but it does not fix all the problems, there are only so many private schools for example.......

I would really like to see all public schools put out of business sometime in the future, we pour more money down the drain just maintaining the various buracracy for schools than we do teaching basic skills like reading and math. Imagine a school system more concerned with teaching kids skills than politics.....now that would be a great dream to see become reality.

 

[RegisteredAndEducated]

I like vouchers in some ways, but it does not fix all the problems, there are only so many private schools for example.......

I would really like to see all public schools put out of business sometime in the future, we pour more money down the drain just maintaining the various buracracy for schools than we do teaching basic skills like reading and math. Imagine a school system more concerned with teaching kids skills than politics.....now that would be a great dream to see become reality.

When public schools start closing, and more kids have vouchers, more Private schools will start opening.

 

[timesjoke]

When public schools start closing, and more kids have vouchers, more Private schools will start opening.

Oh, I agree, but the transition will be difficult, and the last few kids still stuck in the public schools will be truly miserable creatures as the government *** entitlement crowd start imploding.

It would be easier if entire school districts would just be given to private companies and not waste the buildings, of course most of the school board buildings/people that account for 25% of each County's budgets can be closed because most of them do absolutely nothing but gobble up tax money so there would be a huge savings without any change in education at all.

 

[ImWithStupid]

When public schools start closing, and more kids have vouchers, more Private schools will start opening.

Vouchers can also be used so that instead of .gov telling you, that your kid has to go to the closest school to them, if it's a crappy public school they could try to get into another, better, public school across town, because you take your school money with you. This comes in play because many private schools cost more than the govm't voucher is, and people who can't afford to pay the difference would still have a choice in schools, even if that choice is a different public school.

 

[timesjoke]

Vouchers can also be used so that instead of .gov telling you, that your kid has to go to the closest school to them, if it's a crappy public school they could try to get into another, better, public school across town, because you take your school money with you. This comes in play because many private schools cost more than the govm't voucher is, and people who can't afford to pay the difference would still have a choice in schools, even if that choice is a different public school.

This is true, but you can bet that if private schools became popular and public schools started shutting down because of low attendence, they would start letting some teachers go......how much do you want to bet the school will go of the best teachers first?

Of course those will go to the private schoools so no real harm, other then to the kids still in the public system.

It is no surprise to anyone I am sure that I don't love the public school system but at the same time kids can get some balance if the parents are strong examples at home, my kids go to public schools but I question pretty much everything they do, I spend time in the schools and the teachers all know me while I know them. I go to the school board meetings and I am active in the PTO, our schools are not as bad as some because we have a lot of very vocal parents who keep our eye on the ball.

But, more and more communities are less and less involved, they let the schools and sities do whatever they want to do without complaint, and that is how we get stopries like the one above about the Texas school harshly punnishing a 8 year old because she had a jolly rancher..........