Guest 911review.org Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 http://911review.org/Wiki/HijackersAliveAndWell.shtml See URL for links... Hijackers Alive And Well Shortly after the events of 9/11, the FBI released a list of the 19 hijackers. The FBI press release of September 27th, 2001 contained names, photographs, aliases and other information. places of birth, date of birth and other personal details were presented in news media throughout the world. Officials said they reached that conclusion after assembling information from the flights' passenger lists; pay telephone records; phoned reports from passengers aboard the hijacked flights and evidence taken from the rental car found at Logan Airport.-NYT However as soon as the list of "hijackers" was published, doubts began to arise. Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal told the Arabic Press after meeting with President George W. Bush on Sept. 20th, "It was proved that five of the names included in the FBI list had nothing to do with what happened." Despite this, the FBI subsequently were adamant that they were clear on hijackers' identities: ( AP,11/03/2001) FBI Director Robert Mueller said Friday investigators have established the true identities of all 19 of the Sept. 11 hijackers and have found places outside the United States where the plot was hatched. ... We at this point definitely know the 19 hijackers who were responsible, Mueller said. The FBI has confirmed that the hijackers' names released in late September are the true identities of all 19 men, said a law enforcement source, speaking on condition of anonymity. The names were those listed on the planes' passenger manifests and investigators were certain that those were the names the hijackers used when they entered the United States. But questions remained about whether they were the hijackers' true identities, partly because some of their names are common in the Arab world and some of the hijackers fraudulently obtained state identification cards before the hijackings. Investigators now believe the names released on Sept. 28 are the hijackers' real names. Subsequently at least seven or eight of the WTC Hijackers have been found alive to be alive, including at least 2 of the alleged Flight77 hijackers. [seven of the WTC Hijackers found alive! ( [WWW]Cached) Alleged hijackers - Alive and Well BBC, Hijack 'suspects' alive and well. September 23, 2001. Reports as alive: Waleed Al-Shehri, Abdulaziz Al-Omari, Saeed Alghamdi, Khalid Al-Midhar Hundreds dying as US missiles and bombs hit Afghan cities and villages Adnan Zakaria Bukhari, Captain Saeed al-Ghamdi, Captain Abdalrahman al- Omari, Amer Kamfar, Marwan al-Shehhi, Amer Abbas Bukhari ( died a year previously when the small plane he was flying crashed in Florida). World Messenger. [WWW] Alleged Hijackers Alive and Well Saeed Al-Ghamdi, Mohand Al-Shehri, Abdul Aziz Al-Omari and Salem Al- Hazmi. Khalid Al-Mihdhar, Walid al-Shehri, Marwan al-Shehhi. Islam Online, saudi hijack susptects ID passport victim stolen identitySaudi Suspects in U.S. Attacks Were Not in the U.S. September 17, 2001. Abdul Rahman Said al-Omari, Ahmad Ibrahim al-Ghamdi, Fayez Mohammad al-Shehri, Amir Bokhari (deceased) [WWW] Dead Saudi Hijack Suspect Resurfaces, Denies Involvement Waleed Al-Shehri Robert Mueller, Director of the FBI, has twice been forced to admit on CNN that there is "no legal proof to prove the identities of the suicidal hijackers". identities of the hijackers LATimes The Director of the FBI FBI MUELLER identify hijacker said on September 20 in response to the question: Do you still have a high level of confidence that you can accurately identify the hijackers? MR. MUELLER: I know I said at the outset that I had a high level of confidence on the identities of the hijackers. We have several hijackers whose identities were those of the names on the manifests. We have several others that are still in question. So it's ... the investigation is ongoing, and I am not certain as to several of the others. We get the feeling that the FBI haven't a clue as to who the hijackers are. Curiously, that didn't stop the military pathologists from hijacker identification Pentagon remains identifying them as dead: (November 21, 2001) The remains of five people killed in the terrorist attack on the Pentagon were damaged beyond identification in the massive explosion and fire after a hijacked airliner crashed into the building's west side, officials said. Investigators have identified remains of 184 people who were aboard American Airlines Flight 77 or inside the Pentagon, including those of the five hijackers, but they say it is impossible to match what is left with the five missing people. Brenda Lynch, of Manassas, learned that investigators had determined there are no identifiable remains of her husband, James T. Lynch, a civilian electronics technician who worked in the Navy's command center, an office that lost 26 workers. No remains were recovered from two other victims who were working at the Pentagon: Ronald John Hemenway, a Navy electronics technician who was a native of Kansas City, Kan., and Rhonda Rasmussen, of Woodbridge, an Army civilian budget analyst. The fifth unidentified victim was a passenger on the hijacked plane. A spokesman for the FBI declined to disclose the name of the victim. For Golinski, it was a long wait. She had been staying close to home for two months, hoping for word on her son. "It took them an inordinately long period of time to come to this conclusion," she said. "All we heard was that he was missing. That's all we heard until Friday." The remains of the five hijackers have been identified through a process of exclusion, as they did not match DNA samples contributed by family members of all 183 victims who died at the site. The hijackers' remains will be turned over to the FBI and held as evidence, FBI spokesman Chris Murray said. After the investigation is concluded, the State Department will decide what is to be done with the remains. The military says that the un-dead hijackers Dover Air Force Base morticians five hijackers were identified by a process of elimination: (December 15 2001) Dover Air Force Base morticians have isolated the remains they think are the five hijackers in the Pentagon attack and will keep them as evidence for the FBI, a base spokesman said Friday. Genetic information from the five does not match any DNA samples on file at the Pentagon or obtained from family members of the crash victims, he said. Unlike those victims, the institute has no DNA samples from the hijackers' relatives to compare with DNA drawn from the remains. This has prohibited them from putting names to the remains. The remains were flown to Dover from the crash scene in the days following the attack. Maj. Jon Anderson said the hijackers' remains were identified through a process of elimination. We suspect that the un-dead hijackers are keeping a very low profile, hoping to avoid a process of elimination: The FBI never corrected its list of "hijackers" since September 27 2001, and never added dates or places of birth, this despite all of the hijackers having had INS visas. It's as if the FBI doesn't really care, or have been told not to care, which is disconcerting for those who want to believe in the "official" story. From Paul Thompson's five hijackers INS visas Al mihdhar essay on Khalid and Nawaf: By connecting the dots left by previous media reports, it becomes clear that there is much more to these two than has been officially acknowledged. The truth is that the case of Alhazmi and Almihdhar has been a tremendous embarrassment to the Bush Administration - and it could prove even more embarrassing if the media starts asking real questions. And from Al-mihdhar Saeed Al-ghamdi, Mohald Al-shehri, Abdulaziz Alomari Paul Thompson's timeline: Saeed Alghamdi, Mohald Alshehri, Abdulaziz Alomari, Waleed Alshehri and Ahmed Alnami have either been exempted from involvement in these attacks or their identities are being seriously questioned. As for others such as Amer Kamfar and Adnan and Amer Bukhari, their names have ceased being mentioned as possible suspects, one of whom had died approximately two years ago. Even more fascinating is the analysis by Dr. Thoman Olmstead Olmstead DNA FOIA Bukhari 9/11 Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77. Under the Freedom of Information Act, he applied for an pentagon autopsy report no hijackers on the list obtained the autopsy report from the US military Armed Forces Institute of Pathology: there are no hijackers on the list. If the FBI are mistaken as to the identity of the hijackers, then the entire Osama Bin Asset legend begins to unravel. 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Guest Seon Ferguson Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 "spammer" <serebel1@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ec4effcc-528c-4541-b37a-e52eb2fa529a@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com... > Long post, but it's full of crap. For once I agree with you. The names were released before the pictures. They were probably several Muhammad Abdul whatever's who thought the FBI were talking about them. When the posters were released I didn't hear any more talk about the hijackers being alive. or am I way of? shills and kooks are encouraged to tell me if I am or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest What Me Worry? Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message news:479d2014$0$9766$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... > > "spammer" <serebel1@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:ec4effcc-528c-4541-b37a-e52eb2fa529a@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >> Long post, but it's full of crap. You enjoy being wrong, don't you? Keep reading, if your ADD can hold out that long. > For once I agree with you. The names were released before the pictures. > They were probably several Muhammad Abdul whatever's who thought the FBI > were talking about them. Why do Americans assume that Arabs are idiots? Here's the relevant quote that you missed: "Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal told the Arabic Press after meeting with President George W. Bush on Sept. 20th, "It was proved that five of the names included in the FBI list had nothing to do with what happened."" Got it? The Saudis flat out told George W. Bush that he had the wrong guys. These Arab men saw their photos on television and went to the local authorities to clear their names. > When the posters were released I didn't hear any more talk about the > hijackers being alive. "Didn't hear any more talk" = media censorship in the US. Didn't you get the memo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Simpson Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 What Me Worry? wrote: > "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:479d2014$0$9766$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >> "spammer" <serebel1@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:ec4effcc-528c-4541-b37a-e52eb2fa529a@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >>> Long post, but it's full of crap. > > You enjoy being wrong, don't you? Keep reading, if your ADD can hold out > that long. > >> For once I agree with you. The names were released before the pictures. >> They were probably several Muhammad Abdul whatever's who thought the FBI >> were talking about them. > > Why do Americans assume that Arabs are idiots? Here's the relevant quote > that you missed: > > "Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal told > the Arabic Press after meeting with President George W. Bush on Sept. > 20th, "It was proved that five of the names included in the FBI list > had nothing to do with what happened."" > > Got it? The Saudis flat out told George W. Bush that he had the wrong guys. How in the freaking FUCK do the Saudis know? Are you one of those dyed-in-the-wool wackos who ascribe special powers to "the Saudis"? There just a bunch of camel-fucking perverts. > > These Arab men saw their photos on television and went to the local > authorities to clear their names. > >> When the posters were released I didn't hear any more talk about the >> hijackers being alive. > > "Didn't hear any more talk" = media censorship in the US. Didn't you get > the memo? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest What Me Worry? Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 "Simpson" <2--part@epoxy.com> wrote in message news:6A9nj.2732$so6.1219@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net... > What Me Worry? wrote: >> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:479d2014$0$9766$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >>> "spammer" <serebel1@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:ec4effcc-528c-4541-b37a-e52eb2fa529a@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >>>> Long post, but it's full of crap. >> >> You enjoy being wrong, don't you? Keep reading, if your ADD can hold out >> that long. >> >>> For once I agree with you. The names were released before the pictures. >>> They were probably several Muhammad Abdul whatever's who thought the FBI >>> were talking about them. >> >> Why do Americans assume that Arabs are idiots? Here's the relevant quote >> that you missed: >> >> "Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal told >> the Arabic Press after meeting with President George W. Bush on Sept. >> 20th, "It was proved that five of the names included in the FBI list >> had nothing to do with what happened."" >> >> Got it? The Saudis flat out told George W. Bush that he had the wrong >> guys. > > How in the freaking FUCK do the Saudis know? Because the "suspects" are Saudis. And they're alive. And they went to the authorities to clear their names. Did you really not know that 15 of the 19 suspects were from Saudi Arabia? Does that answer your question? > Are you one of those dyed-in-the-wool wackos who ascribe special powers to > "the Saudis"? Are you one of those dyed-in-the-wool bigots who assume that Saudis are incapable of basic criminal investigation? Apparently so. > There just a bunch of camel-fucking perverts. I think you just answered my next question: Are you a brainwashed bigot. >> These Arab men saw their photos on television and went to the local >> authorities to clear their names. >> >>> When the posters were released I didn't hear any more talk about the >>> hijackers being alive. >> >> "Didn't hear any more talk" = media censorship in the US. Didn't you get >> the memo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Simpson Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 What Me Worry? wrote: > "Simpson" <2--part@epoxy.com> wrote in message > news:6A9nj.2732$so6.1219@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net... >> What Me Worry? wrote: >>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:479d2014$0$9766$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >>>> "spammer" <serebel1@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> news:ec4effcc-528c-4541-b37a-e52eb2fa529a@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >>>>> Long post, but it's full of crap. >>> You enjoy being wrong, don't you? Keep reading, if your ADD can hold out >>> that long. >>> >>>> For once I agree with you. The names were released before the pictures. >>>> They were probably several Muhammad Abdul whatever's who thought the FBI >>>> were talking about them. >>> Why do Americans assume that Arabs are idiots? Here's the relevant quote >>> that you missed: >>> >>> "Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal told >>> the Arabic Press after meeting with President George W. Bush on Sept. >>> 20th, "It was proved that five of the names included in the FBI list >>> had nothing to do with what happened."" >>> >>> Got it? The Saudis flat out told George W. Bush that he had the wrong >>> guys. >> How in the freaking FUCK do the Saudis know? > > Because the "suspects" are Saudis. By that logic Americans should know who killed Stacey Peterson because the suspect is American. Grow a freaking brain and quit parading your gullible stupidity. And they're alive. And they went to the > authorities to clear their names. Did you really not know that 15 of the 19 > suspects were from Saudi Arabia? > > Does that answer your question? > >> Are you one of those dyed-in-the-wool wackos who ascribe special powers to >> "the Saudis"? > > Are you one of those dyed-in-the-wool bigots who assume that Saudis are > incapable of basic criminal investigation? Apparently so. > >> There just a bunch of camel-fucking perverts. > > I think you just answered my next question: Are you a brainwashed bigot. > >>> These Arab men saw their photos on television and went to the local >>> authorities to clear their names. >>> >>>> When the posters were released I didn't hear any more talk about the >>>> hijackers being alive. >>> "Didn't hear any more talk" = media censorship in the US. Didn't you get >>> the memo? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spammer Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Oops, I forgot how stupid simpson is. I think it's a tie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnoneill Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 "spammer" <serebel1@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:542cdc6d-6082-4761-979a-aba8fa79ef8e@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com... On Jan 27, 7:38 pm, "What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote: > > > You enjoy being wrong, don't you? Keep reading, if your ADD can hold out > that long. > >> > Why do Americans assume that Arabs are idiots? Here's the relevant quote > that you missed: > > "Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal told > the Arabic Press after meeting with President George W. Bush on Sept. > 20th, "It was proved that five of the names included in the FBI list > had nothing to do with what happened."" > > Got it? The Saudis flat out told George W. Bush that he had the wrong guys. > > These Arab men saw their photos on television and went to the local > authorities to clear their names. > > > When the posters were released I didn't hear any more talk about the > > hijackers being alive. > > "Didn't hear any more talk" = media censorship in the US. Didn't you get > the memo? The Saudis will make up anything. If you choose to believe them, you're the biggest idiot on the net. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, having in mind that Saudis are no different thatn your precious NSA, FBI or CIA... are you saying that those agencies also should not be trusted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest What Me Worry? Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 "Simpson" <2--part@epoxy.com> wrote in message news:II9nj.2734$so6.1315@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net... > What Me Worry? wrote: >> "Simpson" <2--part@epoxy.com> wrote in message >> news:6A9nj.2732$so6.1219@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net... >>> What Me Worry? wrote: >>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:479d2014$0$9766$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >>>>> "spammer" <serebel1@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:ec4effcc-528c-4541-b37a-e52eb2fa529a@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >>>>>> Long post, but it's full of crap. >>>> You enjoy being wrong, don't you? Keep reading, if your ADD can hold >>>> out that long. >>>> >>>>> For once I agree with you. The names were released before the >>>>> pictures. They were probably several Muhammad Abdul whatever's who >>>>> thought the FBI were talking about them. >>>> Why do Americans assume that Arabs are idiots? Here's the relevant >>>> quote that you missed: >>>> >>>> "Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal told >>>> the Arabic Press after meeting with President George W. Bush on Sept. >>>> 20th, "It was proved that five of the names included in the FBI list >>>> had nothing to do with what happened."" >>>> >>>> Got it? The Saudis flat out told George W. Bush that he had the wrong >>>> guys. >>> How in the freaking FUCK do the Saudis know? >> >> Because the "suspects" are Saudis... ....and they contacted the authorities, in/from SAUDI ARABIA, where they have citizenship. Do you get it now? Is that too difficult to understand? > By that logic Americans should know who killed Stacey Peterson because the > suspect is American. It's nothing at all like that. Did the suspect voluntarily go to the authorities? Do you see the difference? > Grow a freaking brain and quit parading your gullible stupidity. Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Or do you lack the ability for logic? Or both? Which part of "some of the Arab men saw their photos on the FBI suspect list, and went to the local authorities to clear their names" don't you understand? > And they're alive. And they went to the >> authorities to clear their names. Did you really not know that 15 of the >> 19 suspects were from Saudi Arabia? >> >> Does that answer your question? >> >>> Are you one of those dyed-in-the-wool wackos who ascribe special powers >>> to "the Saudis"? >> >> Are you one of those dyed-in-the-wool bigots who assume that Saudis are >> incapable of basic criminal investigation? Apparently so. >> >>> There just a bunch of camel-fucking perverts. >> >> I think you just answered my next question: Are you a brainwashed bigot. >> >>>> These Arab men saw their photos on television and went to the local >>>> authorities to clear their names. >>>> >>>>> When the posters were released I didn't hear any more talk about the >>>>> hijackers being alive. >>>> "Didn't hear any more talk" = media censorship in the US. Didn't you >>>> get the memo? >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest What Me Worry? Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 "spammer" <serebel1@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:b910bdfd-6c26-4280-bbd4-f554786ef8c7@c23g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... > Oops, I forgot how stupid simpson is. I think it's a tie. It's plonk time, spam boy. You get to take a bit nap in /dev/null. buh bye-ee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Simpson Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 What Me Worry? wrote: > "Simpson" <2--part@epoxy.com> wrote in message > news:II9nj.2734$so6.1315@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net... >> What Me Worry? wrote: >>> "Simpson" <2--part@epoxy.com> wrote in message >>> news:6A9nj.2732$so6.1219@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net... >>>> What Me Worry? wrote: >>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:479d2014$0$9766$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >>>>>> "spammer" <serebel1@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:ec4effcc-528c-4541-b37a-e52eb2fa529a@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>> Long post, but it's full of crap. >>>>> You enjoy being wrong, don't you? Keep reading, if your ADD can hold >>>>> out that long. >>>>> >>>>>> For once I agree with you. The names were released before the >>>>>> pictures. They were probably several Muhammad Abdul whatever's who >>>>>> thought the FBI were talking about them. >>>>> Why do Americans assume that Arabs are idiots? Here's the relevant >>>>> quote that you missed: >>>>> >>>>> "Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal told >>>>> the Arabic Press after meeting with President George W. Bush on Sept. >>>>> 20th, "It was proved that five of the names included in the FBI list >>>>> had nothing to do with what happened."" >>>>> >>>>> Got it? The Saudis flat out told George W. Bush that he had the wrong >>>>> guys. >>>> How in the freaking FUCK do the Saudis know? >>> Because the "suspects" are Saudis... > > ...and they contacted the authorities, in/from SAUDI ARABIA, where they have > citizenship. And how do you know that , Miss Cleo? Your crystal ball tell you? > > Do you get it now? Is that too difficult to understand? > >> By that logic Americans should know who killed Stacey Peterson because the >> suspect is American. > > It's nothing at all like that. Did the suspect voluntarily go to the > authorities? Do you see the difference? > >> Grow a freaking brain and quit parading your gullible stupidity. > > Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Or do you lack the ability for > logic? Or both? > > Which part of "some of the Arab men saw their photos on the FBI suspect > list, and went to the local authorities to clear their names" don't you > understand? > >> And they're alive. And they went to the >>> authorities to clear their names. Did you really not know that 15 of the >>> 19 suspects were from Saudi Arabia? >>> >>> Does that answer your question? >>> >>>> Are you one of those dyed-in-the-wool wackos who ascribe special powers >>>> to "the Saudis"? >>> Are you one of those dyed-in-the-wool bigots who assume that Saudis are >>> incapable of basic criminal investigation? Apparently so. >>> >>>> There just a bunch of camel-fucking perverts. >>> I think you just answered my next question: Are you a brainwashed bigot. >>> >>>>> These Arab men saw their photos on television and went to the local >>>>> authorities to clear their names. >>>>> >>>>>> When the posters were released I didn't hear any more talk about the >>>>>> hijackers being alive. >>>>> "Didn't hear any more talk" = media censorship in the US. Didn't you >>>>> get the memo? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest John P. Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 "911review.org" <brad.team8@gmail.com> wrote in a message > Hijackers Alive And Well All of the 19 hijackers in the Osama Bin Ladin video "The 19 Martyrs" are dead. That's how they became martyrs. In the 6+ years since 9/11, none of the dead hijackers has been seen alive. There have been no new photographs taken of the dead hijackers. There is no evidence any of the dead hijackers are anything but dead. The very old 9/11 kook myth that some of the dead hijackers are still alive was based on a single, erroneous BBC story, which indicated some people with the same names as some of the dead hijackers were still alive. It's true. Those people are, in fact, still alive, but none of them were the dead hijackers from 9/11. The story was based on the FBI's preliminary release of the hijackers names, which did not include pictures. When the FBI released photographs of the actual, dead hijackers, it became clear these were not the same men. One of the key indicators was that these men were alive, whereas the dead hijackers were dead - a clear and obvious difference. Only someone with an extremely low IQ would not be able to tell the difference between a living person, and a dead person with the same name. Likewise, although Jim Smith died in 1964, the other thousands of Jim Smith's are, miraculously to some, still alive. Additionally, there is a Jim Smith Lake, which is also not dead, nor is it a living human - it's a lake. Obviously, to some of the 9/11 chowderheads, every Jim Smith is a lake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest What Me Worry? Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 "Simpson" <2--part@epoxy.com> wrote in message news:K9anj.2748$so6.163@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net... > What Me Worry? wrote: >> "Simpson" <2--part@epoxy.com> wrote in message >> news:II9nj.2734$so6.1315@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net... >>> What Me Worry? wrote: >>>> "Simpson" <2--part@epoxy.com> wrote in message >>>> news:6A9nj.2732$so6.1219@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net... >>>>> What Me Worry? wrote: >>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:479d2014$0$9766$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >>>>>>> "spammer" <serebel1@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:ec4effcc-528c-4541-b37a-e52eb2fa529a@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>> Long post, but it's full of crap. >>>>>> You enjoy being wrong, don't you? Keep reading, if your ADD can hold >>>>>> out that long. >>>>>> >>>>>>> For once I agree with you. The names were released before the >>>>>>> pictures. They were probably several Muhammad Abdul whatever's who >>>>>>> thought the FBI were talking about them. >>>>>> Why do Americans assume that Arabs are idiots? Here's the relevant >>>>>> quote that you missed: >>>>>> >>>>>> "Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal told >>>>>> the Arabic Press after meeting with President George W. Bush on Sept. >>>>>> 20th, "It was proved that five of the names included in the FBI list >>>>>> had nothing to do with what happened."" >>>>>> >>>>>> Got it? The Saudis flat out told George W. Bush that he had the >>>>>> wrong guys. >>>>> How in the freaking FUCK do the Saudis know? >>>> Because the "suspects" are Saudis... >> >> ...and they contacted the authorities, in/from SAUDI ARABIA, where they >> have citizenship. > > And how do you know that , Miss Cleo? > > Your crystal ball tell you? A mystical oracle by the name of "Google." 'Tis pow'rful majik, it is! "[Waleed Al Shehri] has contacted both the Saudi and American authorities, according to Saudi press reports. He acknowledges that he attended flight training school at Daytona Beach in the United States, and is indeed the same Waleed Al Shehri to whom the FBI has been referring." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm "Wail Alshehri, a name used by one of the suspected hijackers on American Airlines Flight 11. A man by the same name is a pilot whose father is a Saudi diplomat in Bombay. "I personally talked to both father and son today," [said Gaafar Allagany, head of the Saudi Embassy's information center.] [LA Times]" http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hijackers_flt_11.html "According to The Orlando Sentinel, the Saudi Arabian embassy confirmed that four of the five mentioned by Al-Faisal - Saeed Alghamdi, Mohand Alshehri, Abdulaziz Alomari and Salem Alhazmi - are not dead and had nothing to do with the heinous terror attacks in New York and Washington." http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hijackers_flt_175.html >> Do you get it now? Is that too difficult to understand? >> >>> By that logic Americans should know who killed Stacey Peterson because >>> the suspect is American. >> >> It's nothing at all like that. Did the suspect voluntarily go to the >> authorities? Do you see the difference? >> >>> Grow a freaking brain and quit parading your gullible stupidity. >> >> Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Or do you lack the ability >> for logic? Or both? >> >> Which part of "some of the Arab men saw their photos on the FBI suspect >> list, and went to the local authorities to clear their names" don't you >> understand? >> >>> And they're alive. And they went to the >>>> authorities to clear their names. Did you really not know that 15 of >>>> the 19 suspects were from Saudi Arabia? >>>> >>>> Does that answer your question? >>>> >>>>> Are you one of those dyed-in-the-wool wackos who ascribe special >>>>> powers to "the Saudis"? >>>> Are you one of those dyed-in-the-wool bigots who assume that Saudis are >>>> incapable of basic criminal investigation? Apparently so. >>>> >>>>> There just a bunch of camel-fucking perverts. >>>> I think you just answered my next question: Are you a brainwashed >>>> bigot. >>>> >>>>>> These Arab men saw their photos on television and went to the >>>>>> local authorities to clear their names. >>>>>> >>>>>>> When the posters were released I didn't hear any more talk about the >>>>>>> hijackers being alive. >>>>>> "Didn't hear any more talk" = media censorship in the US. Didn't you >>>>>> get the memo? >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Simpson Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 What Me Worry? wrote: > "Simpson" <2--part@epoxy.com> wrote in message > news:K9anj.2748$so6.163@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net... >> What Me Worry? wrote: >>> "Simpson" <2--part@epoxy.com> wrote in message >>> news:II9nj.2734$so6.1315@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net... >>>> What Me Worry? wrote: >>>>> "Simpson" <2--part@epoxy.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:6A9nj.2732$so6.1219@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net... >>>>>> What Me Worry? wrote: >>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:479d2014$0$9766$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >>>>>>>> "spammer" <serebel1@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:ec4effcc-528c-4541-b37a-e52eb2fa529a@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>> Long post, but it's full of crap. >>>>>>> You enjoy being wrong, don't you? Keep reading, if your ADD can hold >>>>>>> out that long. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For once I agree with you. The names were released before the >>>>>>>> pictures. They were probably several Muhammad Abdul whatever's who >>>>>>>> thought the FBI were talking about them. >>>>>>> Why do Americans assume that Arabs are idiots? Here's the relevant >>>>>>> quote that you missed: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal told >>>>>>> the Arabic Press after meeting with President George W. Bush on Sept. >>>>>>> 20th, "It was proved that five of the names included in the FBI list >>>>>>> had nothing to do with what happened."" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Got it? The Saudis flat out told George W. Bush that he had the >>>>>>> wrong guys. >>>>>> How in the freaking FUCK do the Saudis know? >>>>> Because the "suspects" are Saudis... >>> ...and they contacted the authorities, in/from SAUDI ARABIA, where they >>> have citizenship. >> And how do you know that , Miss Cleo? >> >> Your crystal ball tell you? > > A mystical oracle by the name of "Google." 'Tis pow'rful majik, it is! > > "[Waleed Al Shehri] has contacted both the Saudi and American authorities, > according to Saudi press reports. He acknowledges that he attended flight > training school at Daytona Beach in the United States, and is indeed the > same Waleed Al Shehri to whom the FBI has been referring." > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm > > "Wail Alshehri, a name used by one of the suspected hijackers on American > Airlines Flight 11. A man by the same name is a pilot whose father is a > Saudi diplomat in Bombay. "I personally talked to both father and son > today," [said Gaafar Allagany, head of the Saudi Embassy's information > center.] [LA Times]" > > http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hijackers_flt_11.html > > "According to The Orlando Sentinel, the Saudi Arabian embassy confirmed that > four of the five mentioned by Al-Faisal - Saeed Alghamdi, Mohand Alshehri, > Abdulaziz Alomari and Salem Alhazmi - are not dead and had nothing to do > with the heinous terror attacks in New York and Washington." > > http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hijackers_flt_175.html So you're saying that the FBI got 14 out 19 right? Not bad for two weeks after the event in which no identifiable bodies were yet recovered. > > > > >>> Do you get it now? Is that too difficult to understand? >>> >>>> By that logic Americans should know who killed Stacey Peterson because >>>> the suspect is American. >>> It's nothing at all like that. Did the suspect voluntarily go to the >>> authorities? Do you see the difference? >>> >>>> Grow a freaking brain and quit parading your gullible stupidity. >>> Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Or do you lack the ability >>> for logic? Or both? >>> >>> Which part of "some of the Arab men saw their photos on the FBI suspect >>> list, and went to the local authorities to clear their names" don't you >>> understand? >>> >>>> And they're alive. And they went to the >>>>> authorities to clear their names. Did you really not know that 15 of >>>>> the 19 suspects were from Saudi Arabia? >>>>> >>>>> Does that answer your question? >>>>> >>>>>> Are you one of those dyed-in-the-wool wackos who ascribe special >>>>>> powers to "the Saudis"? >>>>> Are you one of those dyed-in-the-wool bigots who assume that Saudis are >>>>> incapable of basic criminal investigation? Apparently so. >>>>> >>>>>> There just a bunch of camel-fucking perverts. >>>>> I think you just answered my next question: Are you a brainwashed >>>>> bigot. >>>>> >>>>>>> These Arab men saw their photos on television and went to the >>>>>>> local authorities to clear their names. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When the posters were released I didn't hear any more talk about the >>>>>>>> hijackers being alive. >>>>>>> "Didn't hear any more talk" = media censorship in the US. Didn't you >>>>>>> get the memo? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest What Me Worry? Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 "Simpson" <2--part@epoxy.com> wrote in message news:PYanj.1744$0w.1740@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > What Me Worry? wrote: >> "Simpson" <2--part@epoxy.com> wrote in message >> news:K9anj.2748$so6.163@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net... >>> What Me Worry? wrote: >>>> "Simpson" <2--part@epoxy.com> wrote in message >>>> news:II9nj.2734$so6.1315@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net... >>>>> What Me Worry? wrote: >>>>>> "Simpson" <2--part@epoxy.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:6A9nj.2732$so6.1219@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net... >>>>>>> What Me Worry? wrote: >>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:479d2014$0$9766$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >>>>>>>>> "spammer" <serebel1@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:ec4effcc-528c-4541-b37a-e52eb2fa529a@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>>> Long post, but it's full of crap. >>>>>>>> You enjoy being wrong, don't you? Keep reading, if your ADD can >>>>>>>> hold out that long. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For once I agree with you. The names were released before the >>>>>>>>> pictures. They were probably several Muhammad Abdul whatever's who >>>>>>>>> thought the FBI were talking about them. >>>>>>>> Why do Americans assume that Arabs are idiots? Here's the relevant >>>>>>>> quote that you missed: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal told >>>>>>>> the Arabic Press after meeting with President George W. Bush on >>>>>>>> Sept. >>>>>>>> 20th, "It was proved that five of the names included in the FBI >>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>> had nothing to do with what happened."" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Got it? The Saudis flat out told George W. Bush that he had the >>>>>>>> wrong guys. >>>>>>> How in the freaking FUCK do the Saudis know? >>>>>> Because the "suspects" are Saudis... >>>> ...and they contacted the authorities, in/from SAUDI ARABIA, where they >>>> have citizenship. >>> And how do you know that , Miss Cleo? >>> >>> Your crystal ball tell you? >> >> A mystical oracle by the name of "Google." 'Tis pow'rful majik, it is! >> >> "[Waleed Al Shehri] has contacted both the Saudi and American >> authorities, according to Saudi press reports. He acknowledges that he >> attended flight training school at Daytona Beach in the United States, >> and is indeed the same Waleed Al Shehri to whom the FBI has been >> referring." >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm >> >> "Wail Alshehri, a name used by one of the suspected hijackers on American >> Airlines Flight 11. A man by the same name is a pilot whose father is a >> Saudi diplomat in Bombay. "I personally talked to both father and son >> today," [said Gaafar Allagany, head of the Saudi Embassy's information >> center.] [LA Times]" >> >> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hijackers_flt_11.html >> >> "According to The Orlando Sentinel, the Saudi Arabian embassy confirmed >> that four of the five mentioned by Al-Faisal - Saeed Alghamdi, Mohand >> Alshehri, Abdulaziz Alomari and Salem Alhazmi - are not dead and had >> nothing to do with the heinous terror attacks in New York and >> Washington." >> >> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hijackers_flt_175.html > > > So you're saying that the FBI got 14 out 19 right? No. I'm saying that at least 6 innocent Arab men are being used as scapegoats, to bludgeon the American people into hating and fearing Muslim Arabs enough to declare war on multiple Arab nations. > Not bad for two weeks after the event in which no identifiable bodies were > yet recovered. And you wonder why independent 9/11 scholars are calling for a new investigation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Simpson Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 What Me Worry? wrote: > "Simpson" <2--part@epoxy.com> wrote in message > news:PYanj.1744$0w.1740@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... >> What Me Worry? wrote: >>> "Simpson" <2--part@epoxy.com> wrote in message >>> news:K9anj.2748$so6.163@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net... >>>> What Me Worry? wrote: >>>>> "Simpson" <2--part@epoxy.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:II9nj.2734$so6.1315@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net... >>>>>> What Me Worry? wrote: >>>>>>> "Simpson" <2--part@epoxy.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:6A9nj.2732$so6.1219@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net... >>>>>>>> What Me Worry? wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:479d2014$0$9766$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >>>>>>>>>> "spammer" <serebel1@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:ec4effcc-528c-4541-b37a-e52eb2fa529a@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>>>> Long post, but it's full of crap. >>>>>>>>> You enjoy being wrong, don't you? Keep reading, if your ADD can >>>>>>>>> hold out that long. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For once I agree with you. The names were released before the >>>>>>>>>> pictures. They were probably several Muhammad Abdul whatever's who >>>>>>>>>> thought the FBI were talking about them. >>>>>>>>> Why do Americans assume that Arabs are idiots? Here's the relevant >>>>>>>>> quote that you missed: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal told >>>>>>>>> the Arabic Press after meeting with President George W. Bush on >>>>>>>>> Sept. >>>>>>>>> 20th, "It was proved that five of the names included in the FBI >>>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>>> had nothing to do with what happened."" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Got it? The Saudis flat out told George W. Bush that he had the >>>>>>>>> wrong guys. >>>>>>>> How in the freaking FUCK do the Saudis know? >>>>>>> Because the "suspects" are Saudis... >>>>> ...and they contacted the authorities, in/from SAUDI ARABIA, where they >>>>> have citizenship. >>>> And how do you know that , Miss Cleo? >>>> >>>> Your crystal ball tell you? >>> A mystical oracle by the name of "Google." 'Tis pow'rful majik, it is! >>> >>> "[Waleed Al Shehri] has contacted both the Saudi and American >>> authorities, according to Saudi press reports. He acknowledges that he >>> attended flight training school at Daytona Beach in the United States, >>> and is indeed the same Waleed Al Shehri to whom the FBI has been >>> referring." >>> >>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm >>> >>> "Wail Alshehri, a name used by one of the suspected hijackers on American >>> Airlines Flight 11. A man by the same name is a pilot whose father is a >>> Saudi diplomat in Bombay. "I personally talked to both father and son >>> today," [said Gaafar Allagany, head of the Saudi Embassy's information >>> center.] [LA Times]" >>> >>> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hijackers_flt_11.html >>> >>> "According to The Orlando Sentinel, the Saudi Arabian embassy confirmed >>> that four of the five mentioned by Al-Faisal - Saeed Alghamdi, Mohand >>> Alshehri, Abdulaziz Alomari and Salem Alhazmi - are not dead and had >>> nothing to do with the heinous terror attacks in New York and >>> Washington." >>> >>> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hijackers_flt_175.html >> >> So you're saying that the FBI got 14 out 19 right? > > No. I'm saying that at least 6 innocent Arab men are being used as > scapegoats, Still? To this day? Is the FBI still claiming that people who have been documented to be alive were on the hijacked plane? to bludgeon the American people into hating and fearing Muslim > Arabs enough to declare war on multiple Arab nations. > >> Not bad for two weeks after the event in which no identifiable bodies were >> yet recovered. > > And you wonder why independent 9/11 scholars are calling for a new > investigation? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Simpson Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 spammer wrote: > On Jan 27, 9:19 pm, Simpson <2--p...@epoxy.com> wrote: >> So you're saying that the FBI got 14 out 19 right? >> >> Not bad for two weeks after the event in which no identifiable bodies >> were yet recovered. >> >> >> >> > > Why not? They have access to flight manifests and security > cameras, etc. You don't. I said it wasn't bad, didn't I, Moron? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest What Me Worry? Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 "johnoneill" <johnoneill@dmail.com> wrote in message news:fnjfn1$1up$1@aioe.org... > > "spammer" <serebel1@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:542cdc6d-6082-4761-979a-aba8fa79ef8e@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com... > On Jan 27, 7:38 pm, "What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote: >> > >> You enjoy being wrong, don't you? Keep reading, if your ADD can hold out >> that long. >> >>> >> Why do Americans assume that Arabs are idiots? Here's the relevant quote >> that you missed: >> >> "Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal told >> the Arabic Press after meeting with President George W. Bush on Sept. >> 20th, "It was proved that five of the names included in the FBI list >> had nothing to do with what happened."" >> >> Got it? The Saudis flat out told George W. Bush that he had the wrong >> guys. >> >> These Arab men saw their photos on television and went to the local >> authorities to clear their names. >> >> > When the posters were released I didn't hear any more talk about the >> > hijackers being alive. >> >> "Didn't hear any more talk" = media censorship in the US. Didn't you get >> the memo? > > > > > > The Saudis will make up anything. If you choose to believe them, > you're the biggest idiot on the net. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Well, having in mind that Saudis are no different thatn your precious > NSA, FBI or CIA... are you saying that those agencies also should > not be trusted? He's just another brainwashed Bush apologist who drank the koolaid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnoneill Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 "John P." <JohnP@nospam.com> wrote in message news:joCdnXl7SegUqgDanZ2dnUVZ_uKpnZ2d@comcast.com... > "911review.org" <brad.team8@gmail.com> wrote in a message > >> Hijackers Alive And Well > > All of the 19 hijackers in the Osama Bin Ladin video "The 19 Martyrs" are dead. That's how they became martyrs. > > In the 6+ years since 9/11, none of the dead hijackers has been seen alive. There have been no new photographs taken > of the dead hijackers. There is no evidence any of the dead hijackers are anything but dead. > > The very old 9/11 kook myth that some of the dead hijackers are still alive was based on a single, erroneous BBC > story, Interesting how John Pindelski finds that particular BBC story to be 'erronous', but the BBC story in which a BBC reporter reported WTC7 collapse 20 minutes before it actually did... That does not catch the attention of our 'sane' John Pindelski. which indicated some people with > the same names as some of the dead hijackers were still alive. It's true. Those people are, in fact, still alive, but > none of them were the dead hijackers from 9/11. > > The story was based on the FBI's preliminary release of the hijackers names, which did not include pictures. When the > FBI released photographs of the actual, dead hijackers, it became clear these were not the same men. One of the key > indicators was that these men were alive, whereas the dead hijackers were dead - a clear and obvious difference. Only > someone with an extremely low IQ would not be able to tell the difference between a living person, and a dead person > with the same name. > > Likewise, although Jim Smith died in 1964, the other thousands of Jim Smith's are, miraculously to some, still alive. > Additionally, there is a Jim Smith Lake, which is also not dead, nor is it a living human - it's a lake. Obviously, to > some of the 9/11 chowderheads, every Jim Smith is a lake. John Pindelski is telling the truth? He should be trusted? Yeah, only if you were braindead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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