Happy Feller Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 i dont think they should but if they wanna have a kid with the oposite sex to have one it would be ok Quote I am not Phreakwars you fucking idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullauto Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 I don't have any problem with what gay people do... As long as they are not criminals, they should be able to marrie, adopt, and all other things that we take as liberties as humans... What is the big deal? I'll tell ya, I would rather a familly with Two men, or Two females adopt a child rather than, an inner city mother plunk out her fifth child when there is no sign of ANY of there fathers around... Quote Liberals... Saving the world one semester at a time "I'm not a racist... I'm a realist! And if you don't know the difference, You're an Idiot!" -- Fullauto Present - 1. (Noun) The point that divides disappointment from hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tizz Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 With so many children without homes today, I don't see a problem with anyone adopting them as long as they can provide the love, support and guidance they cannot recieve through a publoc system. Love is love and every child needs it in order to develope into a productive adult. (without proper compassion and human contact as an infant a child can grow up without proper language skills and will always suffer for it. That's all it takes) Quote "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlIgHtLyOpInIoNaTeD Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 I'm with tizz. There are so many kids that do not have parents, that it doesn't matter to me who adopts them, as long as they get a chance at a normal life. Even if they are being raised by guys who use too much hair product and like designing living rooms more than watching football, at least the kid would have some guidance and love it their life. Quote Free speech is meant to protect unpopular speech. Popular speech, by definition, needs no protection. -Neal Boortz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spleefman Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 I know alot of heterosexuals that shouldn't raise, have , or think of kids. What's to say a couple of fags couldn't do better? Quote http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/8bc962002bac637c66784161e5fa6d15.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParasiteGod Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 I'm gonna have to disagree with you, Happy Feller. So what's your reasoning? Quote I want to report a double murder. If you go one mile east on Columbus Parkway to the public park, you will find kids in a brown car. They were shot with a 9mm Luger. I also killed those kids last year. Good bye Brooks, I like you. Now get out of here. Go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynthiaa89 Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 It's okay and it's not okay at the same time. On one hand, there are so many children that need homes as long as the parents are going to raise them right it doesn't matter. On the other hand the children might get a messed up view on how things should be. Not saying that being gay is wrong, it's just that it could have negative effects on the child later on in life. Maybe not. Who knows. Quote "Life's tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tizz Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Well, so far there are no negative effects to tbe seen except in teh eyes of outsiders Quote "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 It's okay and it's not okay at the same time. On one hand, there are so many children that need homes as long as the parents are going to raise them right it doesn't matter. On the other hand the children might get a messed up view on how things should be. Not saying that being gay is wrong, it's just that it could have negative effects on the child later on in life. Maybe not. Who knows. If anything it will have social negative effects, caused only by the cruelty that only young piers can inflict so calliously and effortlessly as we all know they can....later in life i would see things as different..... But i woulndt know, i dont want children... infact, when i look at children, i feel nothing....well maybe annoyance...but thats more directed at idiot parents than anything. And happy, if you start threads it would be nice to back what you say, why you say it, and give some sort of reasoning behind anything you say....or am i the only one who noticed a wave of these types of threads? Quote -I don't know about you...but I am SICK and tired of being nice and understanding!!! -The Liver is evil and must be punished! -The Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. How can your opinion be the correct one....if, infact, its only an opinion?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullauto Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 FUCK THAT ! ! ! ALL FAGS MUST DIE... Ich morge fag tote! HEIL...HEIL... HEIL ! Just kidding... I know two kids that are being raised by two mommies/daddies... These children are fine! as a matter of fact, they are better behaved and adjusted than some normal familly children... I don't see how that is different from a mom and a dad... I mean, let's face it... Most famillies are fucked up and dilluted anyways... What difference is gender gonna make... most famillies arew depraved anyways.... Quote Liberals... Saving the world one semester at a time "I'm not a racist... I'm a realist! And if you don't know the difference, You're an Idiot!" -- Fullauto Present - 1. (Noun) The point that divides disappointment from hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrayGal Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 i dont think they should but if they wanna have a kid with the oposite sex to have one it would be ok i think they should be able to adopt just like a straight person. They still will have the compassion and love that a "straight" parent would have.They gotta go through the same shit too. I think they are entitled to a child just like any other. Quote http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/bf579d790688a5b6ce4acac92ae0b3e3.jpg Gray~Gal ..... You can only be young once. But you can always be immature. ~Dave Barry "I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equally." WC Fields. Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege. Unknown There is nothing more frightening than active ignorance. ~Goethe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvesslasher Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 It should be allowed under one condition, they adopt a child of the opposite sex. The guys have to adopt a girl and the women have to adopt a boy. There are too many cases of gay guys molesting boys, and gay women molesting girls. If they have a child of the opposite sex then they'll have no desire to molest the child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tizz Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 Do you have any proof that it is gay men (living in healthy relationship required to adopt) or women are more ikely to abuse or molest than anyone else? And what of opposite sex molestation (which I believe occirs in even higher amounts than same sex abuse) Quote "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJenn88 Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 I know alot of heterosexuals that shouldn't raise, have , or think of kids. What's to say a couple of fags couldn't do better? haha, you're awesome. I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angie Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 It should be allowed under one condition, they adopt a child of the opposite sex. The guys have to adopt a girl and the women have to adopt a boy. There are too many cases of gay guys molesting boys, and gay women molesting girls. If they have a child of the opposite sex then they'll have no desire to molest the child. What are you talking about? Almost EVERY case of child molestation I have EVER heard about has always been a 'straight' man molesting a boy. http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html The distinction between gender of victim and sexual orientation of perpetrator is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. They're not gay. But they're not really straight, either. They have their own catergory. Other researchers have taken different approaches, but have similarly failed to find a connection between homosexuality and child molestation. Dr. Carole Jenny reviewed 352 medical charts, representing all of the sexually abused children seen in the emergency room or child abuse clinic of a Denver children's hospital during a one-year period (from July 1, 1991 to June 30, 1992). The molester was a gay or lesbian adult in only 2 of the 269 cases in which an adult molester could be identified Quote http://www.darwinawards.com/ http://www.snopes.com http://www.breakthechain.org STOP THE SPAM!! Click Me You Know You Want To Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builder Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 What are you talking about? EVERY case of child molestation I have EVER heard about has always been a 'straight' man molesting a boy. http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html I beg to differ, Angie. You've not heard of the case of Mary Kay, the 34 year old teacher, and her 13 year old student, Villi Fallou? I doubt that this is an isolated case. The difference is, she was exposed. A few days later, 34-year-old Mary Kay Letourneau and 13-year-old Vili Fualaau first had sexual intercourse. Vili would later claim they had sex some 300 to 400 times. The scandal would shock much of the country. No one would be more stunned than Mary Kay's friends and family. They had always seen her as a kind of "All American Girl" (a phrase that would become part of the title of a made-for-TV movie about the case). What they didn't know was Mary Kay was in some ways repeating a sordid chapter in her family history. http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/psychology/marykay_letourneau/1.html They're not gay. But they're not really straight, either. They have their own catergory. I have no problem with same-sex couples adopting. So a homosexual is NO MORE LIKELY to molest a child than a heterosexual. I agree. I disagree that the only cases of child molestation come from "straight" men molesting boys. That is so wrong, it's almost laughable, but considering the topic, there is no humour in that at all. Quote Persevere, it pisses people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angie Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 Yea so I forgot about the stupid teacher. I didn't say women DON'T do it. Just not nearly as frequently ( I forgot to add ALMOST in there. My bad.) Besides, the point is moot and not what the argument is about in the first place. I fixed it. Okay? Quote http://www.darwinawards.com/ http://www.snopes.com http://www.breakthechain.org STOP THE SPAM!! Click Me You Know You Want To Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builder Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 Cool Angie. As a hetero male, I must stick up for my own kind. 'Kay? (Not mary kay. lol) Quote Persevere, it pisses people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 It should be allowed under one condition, they adopt a child of the opposite sex. The guys have to adopt a girl and the women have to adopt a boy. There are too many cases of gay guys molesting boys, and gay women molesting girls. If they have a child of the opposite sex then they'll have no desire to molest the child. The problem is that the pediophiles that molest children of the same sex is they get HUGE media coverage because of the whole gay issue. Straight people, or messed up ones, are just as likely to be a pediophile as gay people....the point is pretty moot..... And remember most molesters molest other peoples children as well.... If a gay person wants to adopt i dont see anything wrong with it, obviously, but they should go through the same background checks as anyone and the gay thing shouldnt matter. A stable person is a stable persion period! Quote -I don't know about you...but I am SICK and tired of being nice and understanding!!! -The Liver is evil and must be punished! -The Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. How can your opinion be the correct one....if, infact, its only an opinion?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazywumbat Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 The problem is that the pediophiles that molest children of the same sex is they get HUGE media coverage because of the whole gay issue. Straight people, or messed up ones, are just as likely to be a pediophile as gay people....the point is pretty moot..... And remember most molesters molest other peoples children as well.... If a gay person wants to adopt i dont see anything wrong with it, obviously, but they should go through the same background checks as anyone and the gay thing shouldnt matter. A stable person is a stable persion period! Sorry Vortex, buddy, but you're just wrong on this one..... http://faculty.ncwc.edu/toconnor/psy/psylect09.htm There is an 11:1 ratio of heterosexual pedophiles to homosexual ones. So as you can see, heterosexuals are about 11 times as likely to be a pedophile as homosexuals. As for homosexuals adopting children, I'm all for it. Knowing what sort of hell these homosexual parents expierenced growing up with their sexual orientation, I would stand to reason that they would be a hellova lot more loving and accepting of their child than your average heterosexual parents. 1 Quote I promise to afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted. That I will never just accept what I am told. That I will never fall in love with safety and forget liberty. I promise that I will look for the lie in every pretty story and the bribe in every convenience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 Well that doesnt change the fact that someone is messed in the head and would do that to anyone.... just let them push further into a homosexuals background then.....If the chances are higher...then they/we need to set the bar higher on the individual Quote -I don't know about you...but I am SICK and tired of being nice and understanding!!! -The Liver is evil and must be punished! -The Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. How can your opinion be the correct one....if, infact, its only an opinion?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tizz Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 Well that doesnt change the fact that someone is messed in the head and would do that to anyone.... just let them push further into a homosexuals background then.....If the chances are higher...then they/we need to set the bar higher on the individual So we should look further into the background of a homosexual than a hetero? I kind of thought people are people and so far we have only seen proof that we should look further into the backgrounds of heteros if anything. scratches head Quote "An intelligence that is not humane is the most dangerous thing in the world" Ashley Montague "No one should have to walk alone" Phuong Du "An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" Ghandi "If I were asked to define an American in a single phrase, I would say 'An American is a person who has the right to be different' and I think that right is growing" William Manchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 So we should look further into the background of a homosexual than a hetero? I kind of thought people are people and so far we have only seen proof that we should look further into the backgrounds of heteros if anything. scratches head shrug who knows...adoption doesnt hit home for me...nor do i honestly care that much... kids drive me nuts and the further away they are from me the better..... ...then again i have always wanted to own a machete Quote -I don't know about you...but I am SICK and tired of being nice and understanding!!! -The Liver is evil and must be punished! -The Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. How can your opinion be the correct one....if, infact, its only an opinion?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komrade Vostok Hazard Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 I fully support it. It will not make the kid turn gay. Gay kids born from straight parents are obviously not straight, so how their parents sexuality affects them is beyond me Gay people are NOT nessicarly pedophiles. Get your heads out of your asses if you think that The only problem is that people aren't ready for this sort of thing and kids with gay parents will probably be subject to ridicule from peers. Maybe wait until there is more tolerance. Quote All bullshit, No Business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Maybe wait until there is more tolerance. wont happen in our lifetime im sure Quote -I don't know about you...but I am SICK and tired of being nice and understanding!!! -The Liver is evil and must be punished! -The Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. How can your opinion be the correct one....if, infact, its only an opinion?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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