Guest Raymond Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Should the GOP consider a back-up for McCain ? Just in Case. Is a Vote For McCain Wise? He's running for a position of power that none of us (or our loved ones) will attain and that position has inordinate control over all of our lives. The NYT story (below) is relevant -you can certainly judge it for taste or not, but the fact is there are medical professionals who do know about his case (earlier records of which McCain himself released, suggesting he concurs the issue is relevant), and they are discussing the issue. NYT Article NYT reports on McCain's melanoma Posted by Pam Spaulding March 9, 2008 in Uncategorized, Republicans Election This is pretty explosive and relevant, as John McCain has been treated for four instances of skin cancer, melanoma, and while he released a huge file of full medical information in 1999 during his first run for the White House, he has not done so since then. New York Times reporter Lawrence K. Altman, a physician, has a fascinating piece that has interviews with various doctors who have been discussing with reporters the specific August 19, 2000 operation on the Arizona senator's face and neck (clearly visible today -- he has a long scar on his face and swelling in his left cheek) that they feel deserves more scrutiny. Since the 2008 campaign began, doctors not connected with Mr. McCain's case have expressed intense interest in the extent of the face and neck surgery that he underwent on Aug. 19, 2000, at the Mayo Clinic Scottsdale in Arizona. Some of these doctors have noted in e-mail messages and in comments to reporters that the surgery appeared to be so extensive that they were surprised his melanoma was not more serious -- perhaps Stage III, which would give him a bleaker prognosis. These doctors said they would be surprised to learn that such an operation would be performed without evidence that the melanoma had spread. More below the fold. But a number of melanoma experts said in interviews that such an operation was understandable according to the medical standards of 2000 and that the extensive surgery did not necessarily imply Stage III melanoma. "It was not out of line," said one of the experts, Dr. Richard L. Shapiro, a melanoma surgeon at New York University. Dr. Shapiro added that he would feel more comfortable in making a judgment if he saw a full pathology report. While McCain's age has been widely discussed (he would be 72 if he assumed office; that would make him the oldest president), but his physical health has not been widely reported on during the 2008 campaign until this piece. It's relevant because of questions about survival rates after a particular stage of melanoma. The melanoma on Mr. McCain's left temple was 2 centimeters in diameter and 0.22 centimeters deep, and was fully excised with wide margins, 2 centimeters in each direction, his campaign staff said. ....To determine whether the cancer had spread to lymph nodes in his neck, the Mayo doctors injected a radioactive dye into the melanoma in a procedure known as a sentinel node biopsy hours before surgery. The doctors waited for the dye to flow in the lymph fluid to the node in the neck to which the cancer is statistically most likely to spread first. Then they used a gamma counter -- an instrument like a Geiger counter -- to identify the node, and removed it. Pathologists quickly froze the tissue while Mr. McCain was on the operating table, looked at it through a microscope and did not detect cancerous cells. But this kind of biopsy is not 100 percent reliable for melanoma, partly because the chemical stains that help pathologists identify breast and other cancers in frozen sections do not work as well on melanomas. Also, the cancer could have spread to a nonsentinel node. http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/09/nyt-reports-on-mccains-melanoma/ His record in the Keating Episode will also be reinvestigated, as well as his possible affair with the lady lobbyist, and neither investigation will help his cause.. Then there is the Dark Side of John McCain and a look into his Skeleton closet. John McCain's Skeleton Closet http://www.realchange.org/mccain.htm John is one of those "Old Soldiers" , like General MacArthur, that should just fade away and may have to even before the GOP Convention. McCain is an old soldier who should just "Fade Away." He has done his duty as he saw it to be and deserves to be sent home (to Cindy's home in the desert) and enjoy the sunsets and the comforts of what most people never had and never will have because their father and father- in-law were not in a position to provide them with the kind of welfare that this political professional was guaranteed. MacArthur's career came to a close during the Korean War, but as recognition of his status as one of the nation's greatest living military leaders, Congress asked him to address a joint session. MacArthur closed his speech with a famous line from an old army ballad: "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away." Pray for John. He will need prayer before this election circus is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patriot Games Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 "Raymond" <Bluerhymer@aol.com> wrote in message news:ecfd040d-3f71-4dbc-8586-ef3af550e951@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > Should the GOP consider a back-up for McCain ? Just in Case. We got one. They're called Vice Presidents.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest g kay Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 In article <47f65b23$0$16660$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, "Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.com> wrote: > "Raymond" <Bluerhymer@aol.com> wrote in message > news:ecfd040d-3f71-4dbc-8586-ef3af550e951@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > > Should the GOP consider a back-up for McCain ? Just in Case. > > We got one. > > They're called Vice Presidents.... Condi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PerfectlyAble Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 On Apr 5, 8:22 am, g kay <georg...@humboldt1.com> wrote: > In article <47f65b23$0$16660$4c368...@roadrunner.com>, > "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote: > > > "Raymond" <Bluerhy...@aol.com> wrote in message > >news:ecfd040d-3f71-4dbc-8586-ef3af550e951@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > > > Should the GOP consider a back-up for McCain ? Just in Case. > > > We got one. > > > They're called Vice Presidents.... > > Condi? No. McCain has to distance himself from Bush to have a chance in November. McCain has to pick a running mate that has a good chance of being President given his age. If he were really really humble he'd pick a running mate after the Democrats have chosen their front runner, a women. Then when the Democrats finally are forced to accept Obama after pleadings by the mainstream media not to put that women in charge (Hillary Nov yippy!), McCain should step down. Obama would be up against another women but one he can't ignore and doesn't have the mainstream spew on his side against.her as with Hillary. McCain gets to define the Republican party direction for the next decade and doesn't have to be beating up for the next four years in office, he's not young you know. teehe (if she wins). You could suspect that Democrats need to play two step in order to keep the Republican party upwind, where they can smell them. McCain can't formulate a policy platform when he doesn't know who he will be up against, Democrats get to showoff their bickering siblings who have a good chance (even better if the media keep harping on about their supporters voting McCain rather thann the other Democrat) of coming together on one ticket. Obama playing the gentleman, maybe even winning a one term Clinton concession. Its all to play and reporters hate that, they don't know who to toddy up to for the next four years and Clinton is the last person they want to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Raymond Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 On Apr 4, 4:22�pm, g kay <georg...@humboldt1.com> wrote: > In article <47f65b23$0$16660$4c368...@roadrunner.com>, > �"Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote: > > > "Raymond" <Bluerhy...@aol.com> wrote in message > >news:ecfd040d-3f71-4dbc-8586-ef3af550e951@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > > > Should the GOP consider a back-up for McCain ? Just in Case. > > > We got one. > > > They're called Vice Presidents.... > > Condi? Condi, The Dragon Lady ???? Never. The odds makers don't think John will make it to the convention healthy enough to accept the party nomination. When they talk about a back-up, they mean a candidate to replace George McCain to run against the Dem candidate before the November Circus. Besides, McCain is not a true conservative, he may not win the nomination .... That being said, his health is failing. Nice guy, but the party plutocrats wants a healthier "nice guy." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patriot Games Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 "g kay" <georgewk@humboldt1.com> wrote in message news:georgewk-9B004F.12220104042008@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net... > In article <47f65b23$0$16660$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, > "Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.com> wrote: >> "Raymond" <Bluerhymer@aol.com> wrote in message >> news:ecfd040d-3f71-4dbc-8586-ef3af550e951@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... >> > Should the GOP consider a back-up for McCain ? Just in Case. >> We got one. >> They're called Vice Presidents.... > Condi? I doubt it. But who knows..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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