Simultaneous Global Warming on Neptune which has been measurably warming since 1980, is more evidenc

May 8, 2007

Simultaneous Global Warming on Neptune which has been measurably warming

since 1980, is more evidence that shows Earth's Global Warming is also not

manmade, it is caused by extra Solar Activity, and extra Geothermic

Activity caused by the sun's effect on the planets, just like it is doing on

Neptune and the other planets!

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2007/05/08/neptune-news/#more-241

Foreign Corporations on US Soil like British Petroleum and the multitude of

Foreign owned Pharmacies and other Foreign Corporations on US Soil, have

broken an all time high of draining the US Society of it's money, causing

millions of Americans to default on Business Loans, Home Loans, Auto Loans,

Educational Loans, and the alliance of British Communist China and

Australian Corporations on the US Stock Market, look like they are going to

keep fooling American investors into bankrupting Americans for the extreme

left alliance of British Communist China and Australian Corporations. All

the profits American investors put into these Foreign Corporations on US

Soil, the profits do not go back into the US Society, they go to the British

Communist China and Australian Societies, so Americans end up on the short

end of the stick for every dollar they spend in these Foreign Corporations

on US Soil.

Tony Blair and George Bush whishing to expand British Petroleum, needed an

excuse to invade Iran and get back from Iran British Petroleum holdings

that they lost in recent years. So even though the US and Israel were

against Fata in Palestine, Tony Blair and George Bush acted like they were

liberating Palestine, betrayed Israel, and started supporting Fata so that

the Palestinians would back HAMAS, an Iranian supported terrorist group,

Tony Blair and George Bush did this intentionally hoping Iran would use

HAMAS and cause such a disastrous attack on Israel, that it would justify

them in the world's eyes for attacking Iran and taking back the lost

holdings of British Petroleum.

Reunification of Great Britain and the US is under way, in a joint effort

with Communist China, Britain gave China Hong Kong, and agreed to get George

Bush to make the US Constitution a political issue, so that they could trick

Americans into doing away with it and reunifying Great Britain and the US

under Communist China's such overwhelming influence that they were able to

take Hong Kong and make it apart of their Communist block with little

objections from Britain or the US.

Prior to the Iraq War all the Oil Companies were not sexy stock on the stock

market.British Petroleum and other Oil Companies want Americans to pay $6 a

gallon like France pays. BP and TotalFinaElf are the primary promoters of

the lie that Global Warming is manmade, so they can say they need $6 dollars

a gallon to prevent gas guzzling too. Our current gas price surge is being

caused by BP in Illinois, US Companies need to buy out everything they have

on our soil, fast, they are taking over our US Oil! (See 1998 FTC letter on

this post) Britain has betrayed us to the Communists and helped them draw

the US into the Iraq War with false Intelligence on WMD, so Britain can

drive up Oil Stocks and help a Global Communist organization destroy our

Economy.

Prior to Iraq War, look who had oil deals with Iraq,

"And lastly they looked at French oil giant, TotalFinaElf. It has a

sweetheart deal to develop Iraqi oil fields. But if Saddam Hussein is

removed from power, TotalFina will almost certainly lose the deal. Toby

thinks that if France backs the war, this stock is a buy. However if France

does not support the war, TotalFina will be hurt badly. Rob said the stock

has a great dividend. Also, oil's not sexy and not sexy is working very well

on Wall Street right now. Scott does not like any of the major oil

companies'

stocks. However, if he had to buy an oil company, he wouldn't buy TotalFina,

but would rather buy British Petroleum (BP) or ExxonMobil (XOM)."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,79421,00.html

"Type: Public

On the web: http://www.bp.com

Employees: 96,200

Employee growth: (6.5%)

BP is also BO (Big Oil). It is the world's second largest integrated oil

concern, behind Exxon Mobil. The company, which was formed in 1998 from the

merger of British Petroleum and Amoco, grew by buying Atlantic Richfield

Company. BP has proved reserves of 18.3 billion barrels of oil equivalent,

including large holdings in Alaska. BP is the largest oil and gas producer

in the US and also a top refiner, processing 2.8 million barrels of crude

oil per day. BP operates about 28,500 gas stations worldwide, including

15,900 in the US. With the success of its BP Solar International subsidiary,

BP has created BP Alternative Energy (hydrogen, solar, and wind power

generation) with an initial investment of $1.8 billion."

http://www.answers.com/topic/bp-p-l-c-adr

http://www.new-enlightenment.com/impintro1.htm

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=80090

The Media is deliberately trying to brainwash the public to keep Britain in

good favor by promoting the Queen's visit, but when someone is just getting

close enough to stab you in the back, they are no friend.

Sensitive US technology is now a part of Communist China.

When I was examining parts of road side bombs and weapons in Iraq and Iran,I

found some stuff in Iran that look like it was made in the USA, but it was

made in Communist China, I now know how they got our Sensitive US

technology!

Do you people have any suggestions for the President or our Politicians or

our Media?

If those who favor mitigation of Advancing Global Warming, (AGW,) don't wake

up to the truth that the Communists are using a lie fitted to use their

greed and paranoia to lead them by their noses to economic destruction, we

had better all get prepared to live in caves. The Communists are planning on

using so called mitigation of AGW to destroy US Industrial Production so

that they can out produce us with the State owned Sweat Shops, (SSS,) as

they pollute the Planet unregulated!

Hong Kong now part of Communist China since 1997, has allowed China's SSS

to gain a great influence over the FDA.

Even pressing for legalizing the sales of Medical Drugs and Medical

Instruments made in the sweat shops by the Communist State Medical Systems,

which are also buying out many US Medical and Educational Systems.

The sensitive technology that the US and Great Britain and Australia sold to

Corporations in Hong Kong prior to 1997, Great Britain has allowed it to

become part of the State owned Communist Sweat Shops that are using a lie

that AGW is manmade, so that they can destroy our economy.

In service of God and Country

Joseph

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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

BEFORE FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION

In the Matter of

The British Petroleum Company p.l.c., a corporation, and Amoco Corporation,

a corporation.

Docket No. C-

COMPLAINT

Pursuant to the provisions of the Federal Trade Commission Act and the

Clayton Act, and by virtue of the authority vested in it by said Acts, the

Federal Trade Commission ("FTC" or "Commission"), having reason to believe

that respondents The British Petroleum Company p.l.c. ("BP"), a corporation,

and Amoco Corporation ("Amoco"), a corporation, have entered into an

agreement and plan of merger whereby BP proposes to acquire all of the

outstanding common stock of Amoco, that such agreement and plan of merger

violates Section 5 of the Federal Trade Commission Act, as amended, 15

U.S.C.

May 8, 2007

<Joseph> wrote in message

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> Simultaneous Global Warming on Neptune which has been measurably warming

> since 1980, is more evidence that shows Earth's Global Warming is also not

> manmade,

Nope, sorry.

May 8, 2007

On May 8, 4:15 pm, "Server 13" <i...@casual.com> wrote:

> <Joseph> wrote in message

> news:raadnXr71aW_Rd3bnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@comcast.com...

> > Simultaneous Global Warming on Neptune which has been measurably warming

> > since 1980, is more evidence that shows Earth's Global Warming is also not

> > manmade,

>

> Nope, sorry.

Any reason we should take your word (both of them) over published

research from Geophysical Research Letters?

May 8, 2007

"Server 13" <its@casual.com> wrote in message

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>

> <Joseph> wrote in message

> news:raadnXr71aW_Rd3bnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@comcast.com...

>> Simultaneous Global Warming on Neptune which has been measurably warming

>> since 1980, is more evidence that shows Earth's Global Warming is also

>> not

>> manmade,

>

> Nope, sorry.

>

Show any scientific data that would prove otherwise than the accurately

recorded scientific data from many different sources, from many different

fields of science, that all conclude Global Warming is not manmade! Why

can't anyone do that?

In service of God and Country

Joseph

May 8, 2007

On Tue, 8 May 2007 16:15:43 -0500, "Server 13" <its@casual.com> wrote:

>

><Joseph> wrote in message

>news:raadnXr71aW_Rd3bnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@comcast.com...

>> Simultaneous Global Warming on Neptune which has been measurably warming

>> since 1980, is more evidence that shows Earth's Global Warming is also not

>> manmade,

>

> Nope, sorry.

>

That's your rebuttal? Nope, sorry? Damn, you sure are a

helluva debater.

May 8, 2007

On May 8, 2:39 pm, JimPgh <iwantnom...@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 8 May 2007 16:15:43 -0500, "Server 13" <i...@casual.com> wrote:

>

> ><Joseph> wrote in message

> >news:raadnXr71aW_Rd3bnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@comcast.com...

> >> Simultaneous Global Warming on Neptune which has been measurably warming

> >> since 1980, is more evidence that shows Earth's Global Warming is also not

> >> manmade,

>

> > Nope, sorry.

>

> That's your rebuttal? Nope, sorry? Damn, you sure are a

> helluva debater.

Ass.

May 8, 2007

On May 8, 4:22 pm, <Joseph> wrote:

> "Server 13" <i...@casual.com> wrote in message

>

> Show any scientific data that would prove otherwise than the accurately

> recorded scientific data from many different sources, from many different

> fields of science, that all conclude Global Warming is not manmade! Why

> can't anyone do that?

>

This is an absolute fabrication. There are no such studies that show

global warming is man made. There is only consensus of theoretical

thinkers who use invalid theoretical science.

If your statment were true, the IPCC would not have given themselves

only a 90% rating for this conclusion. No other science gives such a

rating for a scientific conclusion. This is because it is not based

upon direct science, or even laboratory or theoretical science. The

IPCC knows they cannot get away with making the statement you have

made.

Is this a new AGW propaganda slogan? Like usual, making unsupported

statements of facts in promotion of the agenda and enjoyment of

believing in the fabrication of AGW.

Deatherage

CO2Phobia is a psychological disease. Seek professional help and buy

an air conditioner.

May 8, 2007

Death-Rag said...

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/a7859e420ae5e0a9

Death-Rag said: recieving quantitive analyses hahahahahahahahahahahaha

daym calculatet hahahahahahahahahahahaah

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/58a4d69ec69d19e5

Death-Rag said: Somtimes I talk neccessary analyses psuedo

evalutation

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/086634847d9203b3

Death-Rag said: resposibility SKEPTISM wern't grenhouse gases recieved

analyses intitial grenhouse gases.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/cb3146cdcedd19dd

Death-Rag said: awfull funny grenhouse sevaral quantiies per secind

grenhouse theory, appication mathmatics laboratoy

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/3840a64f8bf17935

Death-Rag said: apptitude parasitc validilty repitition.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.environment/msg/aa4c1b9fc293bd82

Death-Rag said: continous specta oscilator oscilator intenstiy

intenstity continulally abiltity Moderen particuilate

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/15926ce35b797481

Death-Rag said: analyses horsehit analyses guilability criticise

disgard raditation Phobiacs transfering ofthe analyses conhesive

grenhouse 'grenhouse gases' analyse pervasivness 'grenhouse theory'.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/5597a473e27cacb8

Death-Rag said: vapoer anlyses transfering dissapated recieving

equivelent inabliltty continully transfering recieved grenhouse

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.environment/msg/4a38a6c8e3b292b3

Death-rag said: notalbly medieavel deliberatly discusion brillliant

hypothessis' electromagntic GRENHOUSE equipartion deleoped raditation

quanlification popstulate YOu analyses temperture occuring recieving

falsly

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/6abb9edf7934e28d

Death-Rag said: continully eluciadated arrises grenhouse fuctuations.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/442155a915794499

Death-Rag said: fulctuation 'science communtiy' aggrees

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/663a6c3e99db32e7

Death-Rag said: Crankpot grenhouse Farenheit bouyant continous

equivelent radition transfering dissapated habital grenhouse grenhouse

gase empircal arguement acutal

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/04221b76dbe700f5

Death-Rag said: continous radition radites frauduent scientifc

analyses restricition My limited education in physics grenhouse

genertation continous mokecules grenhouse freqeucnies radition fouth

power equivelent recieving discription dissapates phyisicists.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/2281f2fbe1a4ec80

Death-Rag said: Grenhouse theory religous fanatics analyses arguements

analyses discusion instead of insultive characterzations Alvagadros

number insultive.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/5673cdd6199a93b0

Death-Rag said: A true analyses grenhouse gases neccasary to adjuct

occuring culmulative.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/0b561a597665319e

Death-Rag said: vegitation Grenhouse gase theory grenhouse gases,

grenhouse gases rule cocentrations.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/953c4c4f50d37db0

Death-Rag said: transfering recieve dumbnest recieved grenhouse

dildo.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/db1dd2300c052d7d

Death-Rag said: Grenhouse theory transfering composium themelses

grenhouse

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/227b4dd47714bfe8

Death-Rag said: This is a vey serious matter, severly uneccasarilly

grenhouse theory. 'grenhouse' gases anlyses recieved fouth power

recieving recievese grenhouse establishement.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/5f7cf0a57c32ba35

Death-Rag said: neccesities grenhouse gases intitial theory of

grenhouse gases

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/91115ba9958bbb82

Death-Rag said: enough phyics Actuall applicaton recieving radition

recieving equivelent recieves You inablility metthod Particulary

recieved raditation.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/3b1987f4ba6567a6

Death-Rag said: The analyses evaportation, inductrialization occured.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/msg/161b7a7d02ffb63c

Death-Rag said: inagurated succedded nobel favoratism committiess

benifited widespead modifing.

May 9, 2007

On May 8, 5:22 pm, <Joseph> wrote:

> "Server 13" <i...@casual.com> wrote in message

>

> news:f1qpa0$qfm$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu...

>

> > <Joseph> wrote in message

> >news:raadnXr71aW_Rd3bnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@comcast.com...

> >> Simultaneous Global Warming on Neptune which has been measurably warming

> >> since 1980, is more evidence that shows Earth's Global Warming is also

> >> not

> >> manmade,

>

> > Nope, sorry.

>

> Show any scientific data that would prove otherwise than the accurately

> recorded scientific data from many different sources, from many different

> fields of science, that all conclude Global Warming is not manmade! Why

> can't anyone do that?

>

> In service of God and Country

>

> Joseph

This round of climate change is attributed to both. To what degree or

proportion is subject to much conjecture and debate. However, the

excessive CO2 being dumped into our environment is doing more damage

to our oceans than it is to our weather. An estimated 1/3 of all the

anthropogenic CO2 emitted into our environment since the industrial

revolution is now in our oceans as carbonic acid--slowly killing small

marine life which produce calcium carbonate to form protective shells

to protect themselves from their surroundings--which coincidentally

are at or near the bottom of the food chain.

May 9, 2007

On May 8, 1:06 pm, <Joseph> wrote:

> Simultaneous Global Warming on Neptune which has been measurably warming

> since 1980, is more evidence that shows Earth's Global Warming is also not

> manmade, it is caused by extra Solar Activity, [ . . . ]

This obvious lie from the fossil fools has a life of its own.

The industry lie factories have produced many lies, this is

one of the dumber ones, yet it persists. There are so many

ways to debunk this space cadet's tall tale that I am amazed

that anyone ever asks about it. Anyone with an above room

temperature IQ should see through it themselves, before asking.

Astronomers know of at least 146 worlds, 9 planets and 137 moons,

in this solar system. Please see:

http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/our_solar_system/moons_table.html

You say that only of them are/is warming, big deal. You

then

go on to say that this ~3% sample of worlds is enough indirect

proxy data to indicate that the sun is warming. However, direct

observation of the sun over the same period shows no long

term warming trend, only an 11-year cycle of 0.1% amplitude.

Please see:

http://www.pmodwrc.ch/pmod.php?topic=tsi/composite/SolarConstant

May 9, 2007

"Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in message

news:1178669513.111774.125850@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

> On May 8, 5:22 pm, <Joseph> wrote:

>> "Server 13" <i...@casual.com> wrote in message

>>

>> news:f1qpa0$qfm$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu...

>>

>> > <Joseph> wrote in message

>> >news:raadnXr71aW_Rd3bnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@comcast.com...

>> >> Simultaneous Global Warming on Neptune which has been measurably

>> >> warming

>> >> since 1980, is more evidence that shows Earth's Global Warming is also

>> >> not

>> >> manmade,

>>

>> > Nope, sorry.

>>

>> Show any scientific data that would prove otherwise than the accurately

>> recorded scientific data from many different sources, from many different

>> fields of science, that all conclude Global Warming is not manmade! Why

>> can't anyone do that?

>>

>> In service of God and Country

>>

>> Joseph

>

> This round of climate change is attributed to both. To what degree or

> proportion is subject to much conjecture and debate. However, the

> excessive CO2 being dumped into our environment is doing more damage

> to our oceans than it is to our weather. An estimated 1/3 of all the

> anthropogenic CO2 emitted into our environment since the industrial

> revolution is now in our oceans as carbonic acid--slowly killing small

> marine life which produce calcium carbonate to form protective shells

> to protect themselves from their surroundings--which coincidentally

> are at or near the bottom of the food chain.

>

Man's so called contribution is so small and insignificant in most studies

that it barely registers. Past higher CO2 concentrations than the present on

Earth, produced large amounts of carbonic acids that combined with other

compounds that formed Lime Stones and Marbles, and even some of the salts

that are in our Oceans, and all gases that produce acid rain also end up

eventually producing stones of some sort or sea salts. The CO2 and all

gases that produce acid rains are all also naturally produced by Volcanoes

and Wildfires in a much greater abundance than man could ever dream of

doing. Nature itself consentrates some acids or some bases in such high

consentration that it kills life. The Salt Flats are an example, as well as

different acidity in soil that is good for some crops but not others, and

good for some life forms but not others. It is a totally natural phenomena

that has been going on since the Atmosphere and and Earth and Oceans began.

Pollution like this cannot break the law of gravity, especially heavy CFCs

which cannot rise up to the upper Ion Layer to act as a catalyst to break

down O3 to O2, the holes over our Poles the Magnetic Fields attracts

Positive charged Protons from Solar Flares that spiral down around the

Magnetic Field lines until it hits an area where it takes on electrons to

form Hydrogen Atoms, which is quit far down into the Atmosphere because that

Pole repels Negatively Charger Electrons, the exact opposite happens at the

other Pole, and the opposite pushes and pulls at the Poles makes the holes

in the Ion layers, and even in the lower layers as all gases that produce

acid rains ionize when dissolved in moisture which causes them to be pushed

or pulled out of the Magnetic Pole Zones too, this is what charges our

Atmosphere and Earth with opposite charges for producing lightning.. And

like I said, gases cannot violate gravity, like mustard gas stayed in the

bottom of the trenches, so that Soldier climbing out to get away from the

gas, were picked off in the open fields where there was no gas. All gases

that produce acid rain cannot ascend to the Ion layer, and the only reason

they need controlling, they stay so low because of gravity, you would not be

able to breath around factories if they had not built towering smoke stacks

to get them to climb high enough for people on the ground to breath. That

was the whole science and purpose of towering smoke stacks, and somebody

made a bundle off the CFC fraud. But like I said, the low pollutions should

be controlled but not on Mandatory Regulations forced because of a scare

falsely twisting the natural Global Warming events as being manmade.

Communist China and India will not make any such Mandatory Regulations

because they invented the lie about Global Warming being manmade, so that

they could use the Psychological Warfare Tactic of brainwashing the public

with fear and paranoia to pass useless Mandatory Regulations that will help

them target us Industries and destroy our economy as they out produce us,

polluting the planet unregulated because they invented the hoax!

In service of God and Country

Joseph

May 9, 2007

I fixed the typing errors and give you some links.

What they do not take into account here is what they call "Winter Anomaly"

which is caused only in the Northern Hemisphere by the opposite charged

particles from the sun which are effected exactly the opposite by the

Magnetic Field of the North Pole, than how they are effected by the opposite

charge of the Magnetic Field of the South Pole, this forms what they call

Anomalies in many of their studies of the Atmosphere. I know this because

the Soviets were also studying the Weather and the Earth, but they were

trying to find a way of controlling the Weather as a Weapon, and as a

Soldier it was my Job to stay ahead of their studies.

http://www.cnn.com/NATURE/9904/13/solar.enn/

Peak not expected until 2012

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/04/26/solar.cycle.ap/index.html?eref=rss_space

No one ever said the sun is warming, the Solar activity has increased due to

sun spot activity

affecting both the amount of cosmic rays Earth gets, and it effects Earth's

Magnetic Field. Energy equals Mass times the constant squared, as the Earth

and the planets absorbs Energy from the sun they naturally increase in Mass,

the more Mass the more Gravity, the more Gravity, the more Meteorites that

the planets attract, the more Meteorites, the more Mass and Gravity puts

more pressure on the molten core to produce more heat, that makes more

Volcanic Activity making more gasses that produce acid rains, the more

Volcanic activity in the bottom of our Oceans producing 800 to 1200 degree F

waters in the deep depths, the more the Oceans heat up and give off heat

over those areas that cause less clouds to form producing droughts in some

areas. As the water vapor too warm to form clouds in those areas travels to

colder areas, clouds form in such an abundance it produces Floods, does that

sound familiar to you? It has all been gradually increasing, but no one

noticed it until someone pointed it out, but bent the reason why it is

happening so they could make money off the lie! Like a Contractor pointing

out a crack in the wall of your new house that you had not noticed, and

instead of pointing to the fact that there was no header put above the door

that caused the crack. he wants to charge you for jacking up the house and

putting in a new foundation, sound foolish? I have investigated several

construction frauds that were exactly like that!

What? The acid rains are combining with so many bases it is producing so

many salts that the sea life is dying, so what do you want to do, stop all

man's labors and move into a cave, so that you can try to stop acid rains to

save the Dead Sea? Guess what, Show me, what did man contribute to it? His

contributions to producing the Dead Sea were so absolutely insignificant, it

would not have made a difference even if mankind never had existed, and all

you are doing is blowing a portion of what made the Dead Sea the Dead Sea,

out of proportion so someone can make money off the scam!

He says a Meteorite fell and hit him in the head, so chicken little wants us

all to run to his bank and borrow money and pay him interest, while we build

and hide in Meteorite Shelters! Ha, Ha, same scam!

In service of God and Country

Joseph

"Roger Coppock" <rcoppock@adnc.com> wrote in message

news:1178670683.859620.35960@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

> On May 8, 1:06 pm, <Joseph> wrote:

>> Simultaneous Global Warming on Neptune which has been measurably warming

>> since 1980, is more evidence that shows Earth's Global Warming is also

>> not

>> manmade, it is caused by extra Solar Activity, [ . . . ]

>

> This obvious lie from the fossil fools has a life of its own.

> The industry lie factories have produced many lies, this is

> one of the dumber ones, yet it persists. There are so many

> ways to debunk this space cadet's tall tale that I am amazed

> that anyone ever asks about it. Anyone with an above room

> temperature IQ should see through it themselves, before asking.

>

> Astronomers know of at least 146 worlds, 9 planets and 137 moons,

> in this solar system. Please see:

> http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/our_solar_system/moons_table.html

> You say that only of them are/is warming, big deal. You

> then

> go on to say that this ~3% sample of worlds is enough indirect

> proxy data to indicate that the sun is warming. However, direct

> observation of the sun over the same period shows no long

> term warming trend, only an 11-year cycle of 0.1% amplitude.

> Please see:

> http://www.pmodwrc.ch/pmod.php?topic=tsi/composite/SolarConstant

>

May 9, 2007

Here you so called scientist figure this out. In a Jet, it needs to be

pressurized and have Oxygen because the O2 molecule has an Atomic Mass of 16

plus 16 equals 32, a Chlorine Molecule is 17 plus 17 equals 34 and cannot

rise as high as O2 because of gravity, and not enough of O2 rises as high as

a jet can fly. The O3 molecule has an Atomic Mass of 48. So figure this, the

CO2 molecule is 16 plus 16 plus 12 equals an Atomic Mass of 48 too, and the

H20 molecule is 16 plus 1 or 2 plus 1 or 2 equals an Atomic Mass of 18 or

20. Since both O2 and H2O has less Mass than CO2, and O3 very little if any

CO2 or O3 rises to Cloud Level, let alone above the Clouds. All O2 that the

sun's cosmic rays turn O2 to O3 above the Clouds, is above the height that a

Chlorine Molecule can rise, and O3 becoming heavier than O2, and H2O in the

Clouds, O3 immediately begins to sink from above to below the Clouds, many

of the CFCs are heavier than CO2 or O3, so no CFC (with the exception of

CFCs weighing less than atomic Mass 48,) like CHClF3 Atomic Mass 57,

produced at ground level can rise as high as the lower CO2 and O3 below the

Clouds because of Gravity, let alone rise to the Ozone Layer above the

Clouds where the sun turns O2 to O3, and any Chlorine Molecule released on

the way could not rise to the height where O2 is turned to O3 above the

clouds because O2 is lighter than Cl2. Now read this, how can CHClF3

Atomic Mass 57 defy gravity long enough to reach the stratosphere? Carbon

and Florien Molecules do not destroy O3, Chlorine Molecules do, but they

even try to outlaw the Molecules that would do no damage at all even if they

could reach that high, Why?

"Because ozone-depleting substances undergo minimal chemical changes, they

reach the stratosphere nearly intact. Once they reach the stratosphere,

these chemical substances are converted by ultraviolet radiation from the

Sun and release ozone-destroying chlorine atoms. When the ozone layer is

depleted, the number of harmful ultraviolet rays reaching the Earth

increases. This can result in potentially severe effects on the ecosystem as

well as increased cases of skin cancer and cataracts."

"CFC substitutes such as HFC, PFC and SF6 that do not deplete the ozone

layer in any way have been developed and disseminated as substitutes for

specific CFCs from the viewpoint of ozone layer protection. However, it has

been recognized that CFC substitutes are greenhouse gases that cause global

warming. It has also become apparent that specific CFCs and HCFCs become

greenhouse gases."

Like I said before, one Volcanic eruption causes more gases that produce

acid rains than man could ever produce, and these people call every gas in

nature a greenhouse gas too. It is a rip off fraud.

In service of God and Country

Joseph

<Joseph> wrote in message

news:hfKdnQ8ZjdQkotzbnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@comcast.com...

>I fixed the typing errors and give you some links.

>

> What they do not take into account here is what they call "Winter Anomaly"

> which is caused only in the Northern Hemisphere by the opposite charged

> particles from the sun which are effected exactly the opposite by the

> Magnetic Field of the North Pole, than how they are effected by the

> opposite charge of the Magnetic Field of the South Pole, this forms what

> they call Anomalies in many of their studies of the Atmosphere. I know

> this because the Soviets were also studying the Weather and the Earth, but

> they were trying to find a way of controlling the Weather as a Weapon, and

> as a Soldier it was my Job to stay ahead of their studies.

>

> http://www.cnn.com/NATURE/9904/13/solar.enn/

>

> Peak not expected until 2012

>

> http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/04/26/solar.cycle.ap/index.html?eref=rss_space

>

> No one ever said the sun is warming, the Solar activity has increased due

> to sun spot activity

> affecting both the amount of cosmic rays Earth gets, and it effects

> Earth's

> Magnetic Field. Energy equals Mass times the constant squared, as the

> Earth

> and the planets absorbs Energy from the sun they naturally increase in

> Mass,

> the more Mass the more Gravity, the more Gravity, the more Meteorites

> that

> the planets attract, the more Meteorites, the more Mass and Gravity puts

> more pressure on the molten core to produce more heat, that makes more

> Volcanic Activity making more gasses that produce acid rains, the more

> Volcanic activity in the bottom of our Oceans producing 800 to 1200 degree

> F

> waters in the deep depths, the more the Oceans heat up and give off heat

> over those areas that cause less clouds to form producing droughts in some

> areas. As the water vapor too warm to form clouds in those areas travels

> to

> colder areas, clouds form in such an abundance it produces Floods, does

> that

> sound familiar to you? It has all been gradually increasing, but no one

> noticed it until someone pointed it out, but bent the reason why it is

> happening so they could make money off the lie! Like a Contractor pointing

> out a crack in the wall of your new house that you had not noticed, and

> instead of pointing to the fact that there was no header put above the

> door

> that caused the crack. he wants to charge you for jacking up the house and

> putting in a new foundation, sound foolish? I have investigated several

> construction frauds that were exactly like that!

>

> What? The acid rains are combining with so many bases it is producing so

> many salts that the sea life is dying, so what do you want to do, stop all

> man's labors and move into a cave, so that you can try to stop acid rains

> to

> save the Dead Sea? Guess what, Show me, what did man contribute to it? His

> contributions to producing the Dead Sea were so absolutely insignificant,

> it

> would not have made a difference even if mankind never had existed, and

> all

> you are doing is blowing a portion of what made the Dead Sea the Dead Sea,

> out of proportion so someone can make money off the scam!

>

> He says a Meteorite fell and hit him in the head, so chicken little wants

> us

> all to run to his bank and borrow money and pay him interest, while we

> build

> and hide in Meteorite Shelters! Ha, Ha, same scam!

>

> In service of God and Country

>

> Joseph

>

> "Roger Coppock" <rcoppock@adnc.com> wrote in message

> news:1178670683.859620.35960@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

>> On May 8, 1:06 pm, <Joseph> wrote:

>>> Simultaneous Global Warming on Neptune which has been measurably warming

>>> since 1980, is more evidence that shows Earth's Global Warming is also

>>> not

>>> manmade, it is caused by extra Solar Activity, [ . . . ]

>>

>> This obvious lie from the fossil fools has a life of its own.

>> The industry lie factories have produced many lies, this is

>> one of the dumber ones, yet it persists. There are so many

>> ways to debunk this space cadet's tall tale that I am amazed

>> that anyone ever asks about it. Anyone with an above room

>> temperature IQ should see through it themselves, before asking.

>>

>> Astronomers know of at least 146 worlds, 9 planets and 137 moons,

>> in this solar system. Please see:

>> http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/our_solar_system/moons_table.html

>> You say that only of them are/is warming, big deal. You

>> then

>> go on to say that this ~3% sample of worlds is enough indirect

>> proxy data to indicate that the sun is warming. However, direct

>> observation of the sun over the same period shows no long

>> term warming trend, only an 11-year cycle of 0.1% amplitude.

>> Please see:

>> http://www.pmodwrc.ch/pmod.php?topic=tsi/composite/SolarConstant

>>

>

May 9, 2007

I got my numbers wrong on clorine I forgot it is 35 and or 37 atomic Mass, I

used the atomic number, and florine is almost 19, I used the atomic number 9

so it just strengthens the point that Clorine and CFC cannot rise as high as

the clouds, I fixed it here.

<Joseph> wrote in message

news:Z9qdnehSQeRxydzbnZ2dnUVZ_qOpnZ2d@comcast.com...

> Here you so called scientist figure this out. In a Jet, it needs to be

> pressurized and have Oxygen because the O2 molecule has an Atomic Mass of

> 16 plus 16 equals 32, a Chlorine Molecule is 35 plus 35 equals 70 and

> cannot rise as high as O2 because of gravity, and not enough of O2 rises

> as high as a jet can fly. The O3 molecule has an Atomic Mass of 48. So

> figure this, the CO2 molecule is 16 plus 16 plus 12 equals an Atomic Mass

> of 48 too, and the H20 molecule is 16 plus 1 or 2 plus 1 or 2 equals an

> Atomic Mass of 18 or 20. Since both O2 and H2O has less Mass than CO2, and

> O3 very little if any CO2 or O3 rises to Cloud Level, let alone above the

> Clouds. All O2 that the sun's cosmic rays turn O2 to O3 above the Clouds,

> is above the height that a Chlorine Molecule can rise, and O3 becoming

> heavier than O2, and H2O in the Clouds, O3 immediately begins to sink from

> above to below the Clouds, many of the CFCs are heavier than CO2 or O3, so

> no CFC (with the exception of CFCs weighing less than atomic Mass 48, one

> Clorine molocule is at least 70 to 74) like CHClF3 Atomic Mass 137,

> produced at ground level can rise as high as the lower CO2 and O3 below

> the Clouds because of Gravity, let alone rise to the Ozone Layer above the

> Clouds where the sun turns O2 to O3, and any Chlorine Molecule released on

> the way could not rise to the height where O2 is turned to O3 above the

> clouds because O2 is lighter than Cl2. Now read this, how can CHClF3

> Atomic Mass 137 defy gravity long enough to reach the stratosphere? Carbon

> and Florien Molecules do not destroy O3, Chlorine Molecules do, but they

> even try to outlaw the Molecules that would do no damage at all even if

> they could reach that high, Why?

>

> "Because ozone-depleting substances undergo minimal chemical changes, they

> reach the stratosphere nearly intact. Once they reach the stratosphere,

> these chemical substances are converted by ultraviolet radiation from the

> Sun and release ozone-destroying chlorine atoms. When the ozone layer is

> depleted, the number of harmful ultraviolet rays reaching the Earth

> increases. This can result in potentially severe effects on the ecosystem

> as well as increased cases of skin cancer and cataracts."

>

> "CFC substitutes such as HFC, PFC and SF6 that do not deplete the ozone

> layer in any way have been developed and disseminated as substitutes for

> specific CFCs from the viewpoint of ozone layer protection. However, it

> has been recognized that CFC substitutes are greenhouse gases that cause

> global warming. It has also become apparent that specific CFCs and HCFCs

> become greenhouse gases."

>

> Like I said before, one Volcanic eruption causes more gases that produce

> acid rains than man could ever produce, and these people call every gas in

> nature a greenhouse gas too. It is a rip off fraud.

>

> In service of God and Country

>

> Joseph

>

> <Joseph> wrote in message

> news:hfKdnQ8ZjdQkotzbnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@comcast.com...

>>I fixed the typing errors and give you some links.

>>

>> What they do not take into account here is what they call "Winter

>> Anomaly" which is caused only in the Northern Hemisphere by the opposite

>> charged particles from the sun which are effected exactly the opposite by

>> the Magnetic Field of the North Pole, than how they are effected by the

>> opposite charge of the Magnetic Field of the South Pole, this forms what

>> they call Anomalies in many of their studies of the Atmosphere. I know

>> this because the Soviets were also studying the Weather and the Earth,

>> but they were trying to find a way of controlling the Weather as a

>> Weapon, and as a Soldier it was my Job to stay ahead of their studies.

>>

>> http://www.cnn.com/NATURE/9904/13/solar.enn/

>>

>> Peak not expected until 2012

>>

>> http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/04/26/solar.cycle.ap/index.html?eref=rss_space

>>

>> No one ever said the sun is warming, the Solar activity has increased due

>> to sun spot activity

>> affecting both the amount of cosmic rays Earth gets, and it effects

>> Earth's

>> Magnetic Field. Energy equals Mass times the constant squared, as the

>> Earth

>> and the planets absorbs Energy from the sun they naturally increase in

>> Mass,

>> the more Mass the more Gravity, the more Gravity, the more Meteorites

>> that

>> the planets attract, the more Meteorites, the more Mass and Gravity puts

>> more pressure on the molten core to produce more heat, that makes more

>> Volcanic Activity making more gasses that produce acid rains, the more

>> Volcanic activity in the bottom of our Oceans producing 800 to 1200

>> degree F

>> waters in the deep depths, the more the Oceans heat up and give off heat

>> over those areas that cause less clouds to form producing droughts in

>> some

>> areas. As the water vapor too warm to form clouds in those areas travels

>> to

>> colder areas, clouds form in such an abundance it produces Floods, does

>> that

>> sound familiar to you? It has all been gradually increasing, but no one

>> noticed it until someone pointed it out, but bent the reason why it is

>> happening so they could make money off the lie! Like a Contractor

>> pointing

>> out a crack in the wall of your new house that you had not noticed, and

>> instead of pointing to the fact that there was no header put above the

>> door

>> that caused the crack. he wants to charge you for jacking up the house

>> and

>> putting in a new foundation, sound foolish? I have investigated several

>> construction frauds that were exactly like that!

>>

>> What? The acid rains are combining with so many bases it is producing so

>> many salts that the sea life is dying, so what do you want to do, stop

>> all

>> man's labors and move into a cave, so that you can try to stop acid rains

>> to

>> save the Dead Sea? Guess what, Show me, what did man contribute to it?

>> His

>> contributions to producing the Dead Sea were so absolutely insignificant,

>> it

>> would not have made a difference even if mankind never had existed, and

>> all

>> you are doing is blowing a portion of what made the Dead Sea the Dead

>> Sea,

>> out of proportion so someone can make money off the scam!

>>

>> He says a Meteorite fell and hit him in the head, so chicken little wants

>> us

>> all to run to his bank and borrow money and pay him interest, while we

>> build

>> and hide in Meteorite Shelters! Ha, Ha, same scam!

>>

>> In service of God and Country

>>

>> Joseph

>>

>> "Roger Coppock" <rcoppock@adnc.com> wrote in message

>> news:1178670683.859620.35960@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

>>> On May 8, 1:06 pm, <Joseph> wrote:

>>>> Simultaneous Global Warming on Neptune which has been measurably

>>>> warming

>>>> since 1980, is more evidence that shows Earth's Global Warming is also

>>>> not

>>>> manmade, it is caused by extra Solar Activity, [ . . . ]

>>>

>>> This obvious lie from the fossil fools has a life of its own.

>>> The industry lie factories have produced many lies, this is

>>> one of the dumber ones, yet it persists. There are so many

>>> ways to debunk this space cadet's tall tale that I am amazed

>>> that anyone ever asks about it. Anyone with an above room

>>> temperature IQ should see through it themselves, before asking.

>>>

>>> Astronomers know of at least 146 worlds, 9 planets and 137 moons,

>>> in this solar system. Please see:

>>> http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/our_solar_system/moons_table.html

>>> You say that only of them are/is warming, big deal. You

>>> then

>>> go on to say that this ~3% sample of worlds is enough indirect

>>> proxy data to indicate that the sun is warming. However, direct

>>> observation of the sun over the same period shows no long

>>> term warming trend, only an 11-year cycle of 0.1% amplitude.

>>> Please see:

>>> http://www.pmodwrc.ch/pmod.php?topic=tsi/composite/SolarConstant

>>>

>>

>

May 9, 2007

On May 8, 8:55 pm, <Joseph> wrote:

> "Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terri...@mad.scientist.com> wrote in messagenews:1178669513.111774.125850@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

>

> > On May 8, 5:22 pm, <Joseph> wrote:

> >> "Server 13" <i...@casual.com> wrote in message

>

> >>news:f1qpa0$qfm$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu...

>

> >> > <Joseph> wrote in message

> >> >news:raadnXr71aW_Rd3bnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@comcast.com...

> >> >> Simultaneous Global Warming on Neptune which has been measurably

> >> >> warming

> >> >> since 1980, is more evidence that shows Earth's Global Warming is also

> >> >> not

> >> >> manmade,

>

> >> > Nope, sorry.

>

> >> Show any scientific data that would prove otherwise than the accurately

> >> recorded scientific data from many different sources, from many different

> >> fields of science, that all conclude Global Warming is not manmade! Why

> >> can't anyone do that?

>

> >> In service of God and Country

>

> >> Joseph

>

> > This round of climate change is attributed to both. To what degree or

> > proportion is subject to much conjecture and debate. However, the

> > excessive CO2 being dumped into our environment is doing more damage

> > to our oceans than it is to our weather. An estimated 1/3 of all the

> > anthropogenic CO2 emitted into our environment since the industrial

> > revolution is now in our oceans as carbonic acid--slowly killing small

> > marine life which produce calcium carbonate to form protective shells

> > to protect themselves from their surroundings--which coincidentally

> > are at or near the bottom of the food chain.

>

> Man's so called contribution is so small and insignificant in most studies

> that it barely registers.

Joseph is lying again.

>Past higher CO2 concentrations than the present on

> Earth,

Not in the last 600,000 years.

>produced large amounts of carbonic acids that combined with other

> compounds that formed Lime Stones and Marbles, and even some of the salts

> that are in our Oceans, and all gases that produce acid rain also end up

> eventually producing stones of some sort or sea salts. The CO2 and all

> gases that produce acid rains are all also naturally produced by Volcanoes

> and Wildfires in a much greater abundance than man could ever dream of

> doing.

You are lying again.

>Nature itself consentrates some acids or some bases in such high

> consentration that it kills life. The Salt Flats are an example, as well as

> different acidity in soil that is good for some crops but not others, and

> good for some life forms but not others. It is a totally natural phenomena

> that has been going on since the Atmosphere and and Earth and Oceans began.

>

> Pollution like this cannot break the law of gravity, especially heavy CFCs

> which cannot rise up to the upper Ion Layer to act as a catalyst to break

> down O3 to O2,

Bzzzt. Totally wrong. (Perhaps you believe all the CO2 is at ground

level, since it's heavier than O2 and N2.)

>the holes over our Poles the Magnetic Fields attracts

> Positive charged Protons from Solar Flares that spiral down around the

> Magnetic Field lines until it hits an area where it takes on electrons to

> form Hydrogen Atoms, which is quit far down into the Atmosphere because that

> Pole repels Negatively Charger Electrons, the exact opposite happens at the

> other Pole, and the opposite pushes and pulls at the Poles makes the holes

> in the Ion layers, and even in the lower layers as all gases that produce

> acid rains ionize when dissolved in moisture which causes them to be pushed

> or pulled out of the Magnetic Pole Zones too, this is what charges our

> Atmosphere and Earth with opposite charges for producing lightning.. And

> like I said, gases cannot violate gravity,

We find CFCs at all levels of the atmosphere, so a little digging

would tell you that you're wrong.

>like mustard gas stayed in the

> bottom of the trenches, so that Soldier climbing out to get away from the

> gas, were picked off in the open fields where there was no gas. All gases

> that produce acid rain cannot ascend to the Ion layer,

Lying again.

>and the only reason

> they need controlling, they stay so low because of gravity, you would not be

> able to breath around factories if they had not built towering smoke stacks

> to get them to climb high enough for people on the ground to breath. That

> was the whole science and purpose of towering smoke stacks, and somebody

> made a bundle off the CFC fraud.

Yep, Nobel prizes are handed out for fraud.

>But like I said, the low pollutions should

> be controlled but not on Mandatory Regulations forced because of a scare

> falsely twisting the natural Global Warming events as being manmade.

> Communist China and India will not make any such Mandatory Regulations

> because they invented the lie about Global Warming being manmade, so that

> they could use the Psychological Warfare Tactic of brainwashing the public

> with fear and paranoia to pass useless Mandatory Regulations that will help

> them target us Industries and destroy our economy as they out produce us,

> polluting the planet unregulated because they invented the hoax!

>

> In service of God and Country

>

> Joseph

You need help, serious help. Get it voluntarily before you are

committed.

May 9, 2007

On Wed, 09 May 2007 08:00:52 -0700, Lloyd wrote:

<snip>

>

> Yep, Nobel prizes are handed out for fraud.

You must be thinking of Arafat and Clinton.

May 9, 2007

On Tue, 8 May 2007 18:55:29 -0600, <Joseph> wrote:

>Man's so called contribution is so small and insignificant in most studies

>that it barely registers. Past higher CO2 concentrations than the present on

>Earth, produced large amounts of carbonic acids that combined with other

>compounds that formed Lime Stones and Marbles, and even some of the salts

>that are in our Oceans, and all gases that produce acid rain also end up

>eventually producing stones of some sort or sea salts. The CO2 and all

>gases that produce acid rains are all also naturally produced by Volcanoes

>and Wildfires in a much greater abundance than man could ever dream of

>doing. Nature itself consentrates some acids or some bases in such high

>consentration that it kills life. The Salt Flats are an example, as well as

>different acidity in soil that is good for some crops but not others, and

>good for some life forms but not others. It is a totally natural phenomena

>that has been going on since the Atmosphere and and Earth and Oceans began.

>In service of God and Country

>

>Joseph

Imagine a natural balance that is so fragile that any little nudge can

throw everything out of whack. This has happened throughout the

earth's history as it naturally warmed and cooled in natural and/or

cataclysmic cycles. Now throw the only species into the mix who is

capable of changing its environment for both the better or worse. It's

man who has made both the water undrinkable and the air virtually

unbreatheable in many spots. What makes you think that man isn't

capable of wrecking the planet for every other species thru his

reckless use of fuels that change the environment?

WB Yeats

Nobody should equate the end of man and the end of the world.

May 9, 2007

<wbyeats@ireland.com> wrote in message

news:6tu343pf9kqe4uiq1ksrn5chd9u386pko3@4ax.com...

> On Tue, 8 May 2007 18:55:29 -0600, <Joseph> wrote:

>

>>Man's so called contribution is so small and insignificant in most studies

>>that it barely registers. Past higher CO2 concentrations than the present

>>on

>>Earth, produced large amounts of carbonic acids that combined with other

>>compounds that formed Lime Stones and Marbles, and even some of the salts

>>that are in our Oceans, and all gases that produce acid rain also end up

>>eventually producing stones of some sort or sea salts. The CO2 and all

>>gases that produce acid rains are all also naturally produced by Volcanoes

>>and Wildfires in a much greater abundance than man could ever dream of

>>doing. Nature itself consentrates some acids or some bases in such high

>>consentration that it kills life. The Salt Flats are an example, as well

>>as

>>different acidity in soil that is good for some crops but not others, and

>>good for some life forms but not others. It is a totally natural phenomena

>>that has been going on since the Atmosphere and and Earth and Oceans

>>began.

>>In service of God and Country

>>

>>Joseph

>

> Imagine a natural balance that is so fragile that any little nudge can

> throw everything out of whack. This has happened throughout the

> earth's history as it naturally warmed and cooled in natural and/or

> cataclysmic cycles. Now throw the only species into the mix who is

> capable of changing its environment for both the better or worse. It's

> man who has made both the water undrinkable and the air virtually

> unbreatheable in many spots. What makes you think that man isn't

> capable of wrecking the planet for every other species thru his

> reckless use of fuels that change the environment?

>

> WB Yeats

>

> Nobody should equate the end of man and the end of the world.

The natural balance of Earth is not fragile, but is dynamically resilient.

Mount Saint Helen blew her top, and devastated the land and Forrest all

about her, and what these scientific people said would have taken nature

millions of years to do, happened in a blink of an eye, both in the

devastation about her, and her resilience in reproducing entire forests that

now are thriving and growing anew.

Indonesia the same way, the Ocean depth about her broke up, and part sank

and volcanic magma began gushing our upon the Oceans floor, and billions of

gallons of water shifted position, and rose up across the land, and though

salt water kill plants, and what these scientific people said would have

taken nature millions of years to do, the salt drains from the land with

every rain, and new plant life grows everywhere there.

A mountain blew her top and Pompeii was instantly buried, and later when the

ground shook another city called Venice sank filling the streets with water

that could not recede, which both things that were done these scientific

people said would have taken nature millions of years to do, but it only

took a blink of an eye to do, as Pompeii bury a slave girl holding her

master's child, and held them in that position until they were recently

found.

Less than seven thousands of years ago, in the blink of an eye,

continentally with the ocean floors, they all rose up out of the waters, and

came crashing back down upon all plant and animal life, flattening them and

driveing all the plant and animal and manlike below sea level, where without

atmosphere many of the plants and animals and manlike formed Oil Fields, and

new plants not related to the former were brought forth, and new animals not

related to the former were brought forth, and new man not related to the was

brought forth, all in six days, less than seven thousands of years ago, and

as these scientific people stand next to sea shells among the highest layers

of the mountains looking for missing links to the life that once was but

perished, they drill for Oil made from their remains, and they claim it

would have taken nature millions of years to do that. But these greedy fools

don't realize it is recorded history, but they refuse to accept that, just

because of where it is recorded.

"Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers,

walking after their own lusts,And saying, Where is the promise of his

coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were

from the beginning of the creation.For this they willingly are ignorant of,

that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out

of the water and in the water:Whereby the world that then was, being

overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are

now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day

of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. But, beloved, be not ignorant of

this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a

thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as

some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that

any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. But the day of

the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall

pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat,

the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing

then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought

ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting

unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall

be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless

we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein

dwelleth righteousness."

2 Peter 3:3-13

In service of God and Country

Joseph

May 9, 2007

"Lloyd" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message

news:1178722852.157247.312520@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

> On May 8, 8:55 pm, <Joseph> wrote:

>> "Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terri...@mad.scientist.com> wrote in

>> messagenews:1178669513.111774.125850@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

>>

>> > On May 8, 5:22 pm, <Joseph> wrote:

>> >> "Server 13" <i...@casual.com> wrote in message

>>

>> >>news:f1qpa0$qfm$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu...

>>

>> >> > <Joseph> wrote in message

>> >> >news:raadnXr71aW_Rd3bnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@comcast.com...

>> >> >> Simultaneous Global Warming on Neptune which has been measurably

>> >> >> warming

>> >> >> since 1980, is more evidence that shows Earth's Global Warming is

>> >> >> also

>> >> >> not

>> >> >> manmade,

>>

>> >> > Nope, sorry.

>>

>> >> Show any scientific data that would prove otherwise than the

>> >> accurately

>> >> recorded scientific data from many different sources, from many

>> >> different

>> >> fields of science, that all conclude Global Warming is not manmade!

>> >> Why

>> >> can't anyone do that?

>>

>> >> In service of God and Country

>>

>> >> Joseph

>>

>> > This round of climate change is attributed to both. To what degree or

>> > proportion is subject to much conjecture and debate. However, the

>> > excessive CO2 being dumped into our environment is doing more damage

>> > to our oceans than it is to our weather. An estimated 1/3 of all the

>> > anthropogenic CO2 emitted into our environment since the industrial

>> > revolution is now in our oceans as carbonic acid--slowly killing small

>> > marine life which produce calcium carbonate to form protective shells

>> > to protect themselves from their surroundings--which coincidentally

>> > are at or near the bottom of the food chain.

>>

>> Man's so called contribution is so small and insignificant in most

>> studies

>> that it barely registers.

>

> Joseph is lying again.

Have not lied on bit maybe we should throw that back in the accusers face.

British Petrolium sided with some of the Communists in Asia, and is

manufacture a lie about Nature so that the can charge us all $6 and buy

their expensive so called polution devices at the end of a gun. But nayure's

natural process that they are bending about gasses, make the Dead Sea the

Dead Sea, and even if man had never exisited the Dead Sea would still be the

Dead Sea, because all the gasses that produce acid rains that combine with

bases to produce salts in our seas and oceans, happenens steadily and

Naturally, ever since earth began.

>

>>Past higher CO2 concentrations than the present on

>> Earth,

>

> Not in the last 600,000 years.

Why do they always need to change their guesses to tell their lies, show me

the actural scientific data that allows you to claim that age period!

Here you go, that is a lie, some of these nuts got on television and even

claimed CO2 was the lowest in the past 600 million years, and said they were

able to determine that by drilling the ice at the South Pole and measuring

the CO2 Concentration in the Ice Layers 600 million years old. But wait how

could they do that? Although many different scientist disagree as to when it

happened, the Poles have shifted place at least four times within the past

500 million years. So where what is the South Pole now, had no ice

whatsoever, at least four different times in history, so there was no 600

million year old ice for them to test. And when I pointed out a chart on one

of their own dictionaries on the internet that showed in the past 7 to 10

thousand years, CO2 was at it Lowest Point in the past 520 million years,

and that when CO2 was higher in our Atmosphere, there were great glaciers in

some places, and extremely abundant life growing jungles off the CO2, then

they realized it contradicted their lie, and removed it from the internet.

But then they went on the news, and said allergy suffers are going to suffer

more, because the increased CO2 causes more plants, and more pollen. But

they did not say, that has been Nature's Way of balancing out CO2 in the Air

for millions of years, like was on their chart, and they falsely blamed man

as the problem of extra CO2, and tried using it to sell medication at the

same time.

>

>>produced large amounts of carbonic acids that combined with other

>> compounds that formed Lime Stones and Marbles, and even some of the salts

>> that are in our Oceans, and all gases that produce acid rain also end up

>> eventually producing stones of some sort or sea salts. The CO2 and all

>> gases that produce acid rains are all also naturally produced by

>> Volcanoes

>> and Wildfires in a much greater abundance than man could ever dream of

>> doing.

>

> You are lying again.

>

>>Nature itself consentrates some acids or some bases in such high

>> consentration that it kills life. The Salt Flats are an example, as well

>> as

>> different acidity in soil that is good for some crops but not others, and

>> good for some life forms but not others. It is a totally natural

>> phenomena

>> that has been going on since the Atmosphere and and Earth and Oceans

>> began.

>>

>> Pollution like this cannot break the law of gravity, especially heavy

>> CFCs

>> which cannot rise up to the upper Ion Layer to act as a catalyst to break

>> down O3 to O2,

>

> Bzzzt. Totally wrong. (Perhaps you believe all the CO2 is at ground

> level, since it's heavier than O2 and N2.)

>

>>the holes over our Poles the Magnetic Fields attracts

>> Positive charged Protons from Solar Flares that spiral down around the

>> Magnetic Field lines until it hits an area where it takes on electrons to

>> form Hydrogen Atoms, which is quit far down into the Atmosphere because

>> that

>> Pole repels Negatively Charger Electrons, the exact opposite happens at

>> the

>> other Pole, and the opposite pushes and pulls at the Poles makes the

>> holes

>> in the Ion layers, and even in the lower layers as all gases that produce

>> acid rains ionize when dissolved in moisture which causes them to be

>> pushed

>> or pulled out of the Magnetic Pole Zones too, this is what charges our

>> Atmosphere and Earth with opposite charges for producing lightning.. And

>> like I said, gases cannot violate gravity,

>

> We find CFCs at all levels of the atmosphere, so a little digging

> would tell you that you're wrong.

>

>>like mustard gas stayed in the

>> bottom of the trenches, so that Soldier climbing out to get away from the

>> gas, were picked off in the open fields where there was no gas. All gases

>> that produce acid rain cannot ascend to the Ion layer,

>

> Lying again.

>

>>and the only reason

>> they need controlling, they stay so low because of gravity, you would not

>> be

>> able to breath around factories if they had not built towering smoke

>> stacks

>> to get them to climb high enough for people on the ground to breath. That

>> was the whole science and purpose of towering smoke stacks, and somebody

>> made a bundle off the CFC fraud.

>

> Yep, Nobel prizes are handed out for fraud.

>

>>But like I said, the low pollutions should

>> be controlled but not on Mandatory Regulations forced because of a scare

>> falsely twisting the natural Global Warming events as being manmade.

>> Communist China and India will not make any such Mandatory Regulations

>> because they invented the lie about Global Warming being manmade, so that

>> they could use the Psychological Warfare Tactic of brainwashing the

>> public

>> with fear and paranoia to pass useless Mandatory Regulations that will

>> help

>> them target us Industries and destroy our economy as they out produce us,

>> polluting the planet unregulated because they invented the hoax!

>>

>> In service of God and Country

>>

>> Joseph

>

> You need help, serious help. Get it voluntarily before you are

> committed.

>

May 9, 2007

Her I fixed the typing errors and added some stuff to show who it is my

accuser who is lying through his teeth, and pointed it out, in a frustraited

fit because he can't bend reality to fit his way, he will probably become as

dangerous as an abortion clinic bomber, like some of the other eco

terrorists I have met.

----- Original Message -----

From: <Joseph>

Newsgroups:

alt.global-warming,alt.politics,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republican,alt.rush-limbaugh

Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 2:44 PM

Subject: Re: Simultaneous Global Warming on Neptune which has been

measurably warming since 1980, is more evidence that shows Earths Global

Warming is also not manmade!