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Supreme Court rules against abortion clinics, protests cannot be
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Posted on 12/09/2007 1:12:11 PM PST by Coleus


A 20-year-old legal fight over protests outside abortion clinics ended
Tuesday with the Supreme Court ruling that federal extortion and
racketeering laws cannot be used against demonstrators. The 8-0
decision was a setback for abortion clinics that were buoyed when the
7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals kept their case alive two years ago
despite the high court's 2003 ruling that had cleared the way for
lifting a nationwide injunction on anti-abortion leader Joseph
Scheidler and others.

Anti-abortion groups appealed to the justices after the lower court
sought to determine whether the injunction could be supported by
findings that protesters had made threats of violence. In Tuesday's
ruling, Justice Stephen Breyer said Congress did not create "a
freestanding physical violence offense" in the federal extortion law
known as the Hobbs Act.

'A great day for pro-lifers'

Instead, Breyer wrote, Congress addressed violence outside abortion
clinics in 1994 by passing the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances
Act, which allows for court injunctions to set limits for such
protests. "It's a great day for pro-lifers," said Troy Newman,
president of Operation Rescue. Kim Gandy, president of the National
Organization for Women, said the decision was disappointing because
the injunction had decreased violence outside clinics nationally. She
said the clinic access act is problematic because it requires abortion
providers to seek injunctions "city by city" and turns back the clock
to the late 1980s when NOW played cat and mouse with Operation Rescue
in trying to anticipate the cities and clinics that abortion
protesters planned to target next.

Newman said his group and others have set their sights on the clinic
access law, filing legal challenges they hope will lead courts --
possibly even the Supreme Court-- to overturn it.
Also Tuesday, the Missouri state Supreme Court upheld the state's 24-
hour waiting period for abortions, rejecting arguments that it was
overly vague and deprived people of liberty and privacy rights.

The law, enacted when legislators overrode a veto of then-Gov. Bob
Holden, requires physicians to wait 24 hours after conferring with
women before performing abortions. It requires that consultation to
cover such things as "the indicators and contraindicators" and the
"physical, psychological and situational" risk factors associated with
abortions.

Abortion opponents hope momentum is shifting in their favor: Last
week, the high court decided to consider reinstating a federal ban on
what opponents call partial-birth abortion, and the South Dakota
legislature's passed a bill that would make it a crime for doctors to
perform an abortion unless it was necessary to save the woman's life.

President Bush, asked about the South Dakota measure in an interview
with ABC News' Elizabeth Vargas, said Tuesday he hadn't "paid
attention to that, to this particular issue you're talking about" but
"I am not going to prejudge how the Supreme Court is going to judge a
particular issue."

However, he said, "My position has always been three exceptions: rape,
incests and the life of the mother." Asked if he would include the
broader category of health of the mother, Bush said: "No. I said life
of the mother, and health is a very vague term, but my position has
been clear on that ever since I started running for office."

In the abortion protest case, social activists and the AFL-CIO had
sided with the demonstrators out of concern that the federal extortion
law could be used to thwart their efforts to change public policy or
agitate for better wages and working conditions.

Twenty years of legal battles
The legal battle began in 1986, when NOW filed a class-action suit
challenging tactics used by the Pro-Life Action Network to block women
from entering abortion clinics.

NOW's legal strategy was novel at the time, relying on civil
provisions of the 1970 Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations
Act, which was used predominantly in criminal cases against organized
crime. The lawsuit also relied on the Hobbs Act, a 55-year-old law
banning extortion.

A federal judge issued a nationwide injunction against the anti-
abortion protesters after a Chicago jury found in 1998 that
demonstrators had engaged in a pattern of racketeering by interfering
with clinic operations, menacing doctors, assaulting patients and
damaging clinic property.

But the Supreme Court ruled in 2003 that the extortion law could not
be used against the protesters because they had not illegally
"obtained property" from women seeking to enter clinics to receive
abortions.

Justice Samuel Alito did not participate in the decision because he
was not a member of the court when the case was argued.

The cases are Scheidler v. NOW, 04-1244, and Operation Rescue v. NOW,
04-1352.
 
On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:31:08 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:

> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937072/posts
>
>
> Supreme Court rules against abortion clinics, protests cannot be banned
> using extortion laws


They were just afraid the pro-life bunch would go back to using bombs...

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EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
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it makes men good, but even if this were true it would
not be a proof that religion is true. That would be
an extension of pragmatism beyond endurance.
Santa Claus makes children good in precisely the same
way, and yet no one would argue seriously that the
fact proves his existence. The defense of religion is
full of such logical imbecilities.”

- H. L. Mencken
 
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937072/posts
>
>
> Supreme Court rules against abortion clinics, protests cannot be
> banned using extortion laws


So you ar now in the molotov biddness.
Fancy dat.
 
On Dec 9, 5:20 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:31:08 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:
> >http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937072/posts

>
> > Supreme Court rules against abortion clinics, protests cannot be banned
> > using extortion laws

>
> They were just afraid the pro-life bunch would go back to using bombs...

The pro-life bunch never used bombs.
 
> Well this is good news. Now we can demonstrate against everything!!!
> Bush, we can demonstrate against you.

If only we could abort every BDS loon that feels the need to turn
every conversation into a discussion about GB.
 
Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking head wrote:

> On Dec 9, 5:20 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:31:08 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937072/posts

>>
>>>Supreme Court rules against abortion clinics, protests cannot be banned
>>>using extortion laws

>>
>>They were just afraid the pro-life bunch would go back to using bombs...

>
> The pro-life bunch never used bombs.


An abortion clinic bombing sure isn't committed by the pro-choice bunch.
 
"Vandar" <vandar69@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:IJb7j.160$7d1.102@news01.roc.ny...
> Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking head wrote:
>
>> On Dec 9, 5:20 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:31:08 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:
>>>
>>>>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937072/posts
>>>
>>>>Supreme Court rules against abortion clinics, protests cannot be banned
>>>>using extortion laws
>>>
>>>They were just afraid the pro-life bunch would go back to using bombs...

>>
>> The pro-life bunch never used bombs.

>
> An abortion clinic bombing sure isn't committed by the pro-choice bunch.


Those who truly are "pro-life" and value the life of everyone will not be
out there bombing any clinic.
That isn't to say that there are not a few nut cases out there who claim to
be pro-life and would bomb clinics.

I have also seen those who are on the extreme side of the "pro-choice" camp,
and they too will resort to violence and vandalism.

There are extremist on both sides, and neither extremist helps in any way at
all.
 
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:26:04 -0800, Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political
talking head wrote:

> On Dec 9, 5:20 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
>> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:31:08 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:
>> >http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937072/posts

>>
>> > Supreme Court rules against abortion clinics, protests cannot be
>> > banned using extortion laws

>>
>> They were just afraid the pro-life bunch would go back to using
>> bombs...

>
> The pro-life bunch never used bombs.


Bullshit.

--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
“The larger the mob, the harder the test....when the
field is nationwide...then all the odds are on the man
who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre--
the man who can most easily adeptly disperse the
notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.

“The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men.
As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more
and more closely, the inner soul of the people.

“We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and
glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their
heart's desire at last, and the White House will be
adorned by a downright moron.”

- H. L. Mencken
 
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:10:25 -0500, Osprey wrote:


> "Vandar" <vandar69@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:IJb7j.160$7d1.102@news01.roc.ny...
>> Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking head wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 9, 5:20 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:31:08 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937072/posts
>>>>
>>>>>Supreme Court rules against abortion clinics, protests cannot be
>>>>>banned using extortion laws
>>>>
>>>>They were just afraid the pro-life bunch would go back to using
>>>>bombs...
>>>
>>> The pro-life bunch never used bombs.

>>
>> An abortion clinic bombing sure isn't committed by the pro-choice
>> bunch.

>
> Those who truly are "pro-life" and value the life of everyone will not
> be out there bombing any clinic.


I hear bagpipes...

--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
Once again, we come to the Holiday Season, a deeply religious
time that each of us observes, in his own way, by going to
the mall of his choice.
 
On Dec 10, 9:10 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
> "Vandar" <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:IJb7j.160$7d1.102@news01.roc.ny...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking head wrote:

>
> >> On Dec 9, 5:20 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

>
> >>>On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:31:08 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:

>
> >>>>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937072/posts

>
> >>>>Supreme Court rules against abortion clinics, protests cannot be banned
> >>>>using extortion laws

>
> >>>They were just afraid the pro-life bunch would go back to using bombs...

>
> >> The pro-life bunch never used bombs.

>
> > An abortion clinic bombing sure isn't committed by the pro-choice bunch.

>
> Those who truly are "pro-life" and value the life of everyone will not be
> out there bombing any clinic.
> That isn't to say that there are not a few nut cases out there who claim to
> be pro-life and would bomb clinics.
>
> I have also seen those who are on the extreme side of the "pro-choice" camp,
> and they too will resort to violence and vandalism.
>
> There are extremist on both sides, and neither extremist helps in any way at
> all.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Please refresh my memory. What actions by the extreme pro-choice
people are comparable to the killings and bombing by the extreme pro-
life people?

JohnN
 
On Dec 10, 5:49 am, snausages <goofin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 9, 3:31 pm, Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com>
> wrote:
>
> >http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937072/posts

>
> > Supreme Court rules against abortion clinics, protests cannot be
> > banned using extortion laws

>
> Well this is good news. Now we can demonstrate against everything!!!
> Bush, we can demonstrate against you.


Alas, no. Demonstrating against Pres Bush is restricted because of
security concerns. Any demonstration of rational thought around him
threatens his fantasy world.

JohnN
 
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

>> The pro-life bunch never used bombs.

>
> Bullshit.


It's the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. No true Scotsman puts sugar on his oatmeal.
But MacGregor puts sugar on his oatmeal. Then he's not a /true/ Scotsman.

Nobody who is "pro-life" uses bombs, because they kill, which is anti-thetical
to life.

Guess this includes our rabidly "pro-life" president, too.
 
"Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking head"
<messiah2999@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d0696e9d-3401-4958-afcd-9f4c6e29683c@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 9, 5:20 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
>> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:31:08 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:
>> >http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937072/posts


>> > Supreme Court rules against abortion clinics, protests cannot be banned
>> > using extortion laws


>> They were just afraid the pro-life bunch would go back to using bombs...


> The pro-life bunch never used bombs.


Oops!
Google is your friend:

Eric Rudolph sentenced to life in prison for bombings
"As part of a plea deal reached in April, Eric Rudolph was sentenced Monday
to life in prison without
parole for his role in the 1998 bombing of an abortion clinic in Birmingham,
Alabama. Rudolph has also pleaded guilty to three bombings in the Atlanta
area, including an attack at the 1996 Summer
Olympics. Victims of the Birmingham attack spoke out at Monday's
sentencing."
http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2005/07/eric-rudolph-sentenced-to-life-in.php
 
LC wrote:

>> The pro-life bunch never used bombs.

>
> Oops!
> Google is your friend:
>
> Eric Rudolph sentenced to life in prison for bombings
> "As part of a plea deal reached in April, Eric Rudolph was sentenced Monday
> to life in prison


That's a Google miss. This guy is just "pro-life-in-prison".
 
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:51:44 -0800, Phlip wrote:

> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>
>>> The pro-life bunch never used bombs.

>>
>> Bullshit.

>
> It's the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. No true Scotsman puts sugar on his
> oatmeal. But MacGregor puts sugar on his oatmeal. Then he's not a /true/
> Scotsman.
>
> Nobody who is "pro-life" uses bombs, because they kill, which is
> anti-thetical to life.
>
> Guess this includes our rabidly "pro-life" president, too.


Absolutely! The Frat Boy in Chief considers life so sacred, he uses only
the most expensive bombs to snuff it out...

--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
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"JohnN" <jnorris53@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 10, 9:10 am, "Osprey" <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
>> "Vandar" <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:IJb7j.160$7d1.102@news01.roc.ny...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking head wrote:

>>
>> >> On Dec 9, 5:20 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

>>
>> >>>On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:31:08 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:

>>
>> >>>>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937072/posts

>>
>> >>>>Supreme Court rules against abortion clinics, protests cannot be
>> >>>>banned
>> >>>>using extortion laws

>>
>> >>>They were just afraid the pro-life bunch would go back to using
>> >>>bombs...

>>
>> >> The pro-life bunch never used bombs.

>>
>> > An abortion clinic bombing sure isn't committed by the pro-choice
>> > bunch.

>>
>> Those who truly are "pro-life" and value the life of everyone will not be
>> out there bombing any clinic.
>> That isn't to say that there are not a few nut cases out there who claim
>> to
>> be pro-life and would bomb clinics.
>>
>> I have also seen those who are on the extreme side of the "pro-choice"
>> camp,
>> and they too will resort to violence and vandalism.
>>
>> There are extremist on both sides, and neither extremist helps in any way
>> at
>> all.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> Please refresh my memory. What actions by the extreme pro-choice
> people are comparable to the killings and bombing by the extreme pro-
> life people?


I work in a prison, I have seen people arrested for vandalizing other
peoples property who I identified themselves as pro-life, example:
vandalizing vehicles with pro-life stickers.

Also I didn't say "comparable", I said I have seen people who have taken
extreme actions and will resort to violence and vandalism.

I don't agree with the actions from EITHER side.
 
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:56:51 -0800, Phlip wrote:

> LC wrote:
>
>>> The pro-life bunch never used bombs.

>>
>> Oops!
>> Google is your friend:
>>
>> Eric Rudolph sentenced to life in prison for bombings "As part of a
>> plea deal reached in April, Eric Rudolph was sentenced Monday to life
>> in prison

>
> That's a Google miss. This guy is just "pro-life-in-prison".


Do I hear bagpipes?

--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
At a recent PTL convention, the hotel reported that over 80%
of the conventionites watched at least one x-rated movie on
the hotel's ppv cable...
 
On Dec 9, 3:31 pm, Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com>
wrote:

Hey ****head

Did they say that anti-aborts can kill the doctors and blow up
clinics? (Which is the proper Xtian thing to do, right?


BTW--you don't need to worry as much when you're selling crack this
weekend.
You won't get any more time that the powder sellers
 
On Dec 10, 9:33 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:51:44 -0800, Phlip wrote:
> > Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

>
> >>> The pro-life bunch never used bombs.

>
> >> Bullshit.

>
> > It's the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. No true Scotsman puts sugar on his
> > oatmeal. But MacGregor puts sugar on his oatmeal. Then he's not a /true/
> > Scotsman.

>
> > Nobody who is "pro-life" uses bombs, because they kill, which is
> > anti-thetical to life.

>
> > Guess this includes our rabidly "pro-life" president, too.

>
> Absolutely! The Frat Boy in Chief considers life so sacred, he uses only
> the most expensive bombs to snuff it out...


Bush doesn't have the brains to conduct a war
against Arabs. His jew neo-cons however do and did. Do the names
"Wolfowitz", "Perle" "Feith"
etal ring a bell and whatever happened to them -
Mission Accomplished?
>
> --
> Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
> EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Humanity's first sin was faith; the first virtue was doubt.
 
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