Suspension of Firewall

Zygy · May 2, 2008

It has been recommended that I suspend the Firewall during the download of a

very sensitive software.

I found the Firewall, but how do I suspend it?

What risks are there if the suspension lasts say for 1hr?

Straight Talk · May 2, 2008

On Fri, 2 May 2008 08:55:16 +0100, "Zygy" <zygy@microsoft.com> wrote:



>It has been recommended that I suspend the Firewall during the download of a

>very sensitive software.

Why?



>I found the Firewall, but how do I suspend it?

Are you talking about the Vista one? - I see no reason to suspend that

for any download purposes.



>What risks are there if the suspension lasts say for 1hr? 

Depends on your environment. If your machine is directly connected to

the net (has a public IP) I wouldn't risk it.

Zygy · May 2, 2008

Thank you for posting, but you do not give me the answer I asked for. Since

I posted my question on a Vista Newsgroup, I must have been referring to a

Vista Firewall.

If you can give me the answer maybe you could also advise me how to restore

the Firewall to a full operating procedure after the suspension.

For your information the owners of the download advise the suspension of the

Antivirus and Firewall.

"Straight Talk" <b__nice@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> On Fri, 2 May 2008 08:55:16 +0100, "Zygy" <zygy@microsoft.com> wrote:

>

>>It has been recommended that I suspend the Firewall during the download of

>>a

>>very sensitive software.

>

> Why?

>

>>I found the Firewall, but how do I suspend it?

>

> Are you talking about the Vista one? - I see no reason to suspend that

> for any download purposes.

>

>>What risks are there if the suspension lasts say for 1hr?

>

> Depends on your environment. If your machine is directly connected to

> the net (has a public IP) I wouldn't risk it.

Straight Talk · May 2, 2008

On Fri, 2 May 2008 12:33:39 +0100, "Zygy" <zygy@microsoft.com> wrote:



>Thank you for posting, but you do not give me the answer I asked for. 

Maybe it wasn't my intention to give you the answer you wanted.

Thought about that?



>Since I posted my question on a Vista Newsgroup, I must have been referring to a

>Vista Firewall.

Well, not necessarily, smart ***. Many mislead people run all kinds of

firewalls on Vista. Did you give it a thought that my question might

have impact on whether you actually need to suspend that or not?



>If you can give me the answer maybe you could also advise me how to restore

>the Firewall to a full operating procedure after the suspension.

I'm not going to do that until you give me a solid reason for

suspending your vista firewall in the first place.



>For your information the owners of the download advise the suspension of the

>Antivirus and Firewall.

That's common - because lot's of so called "security" stuff is too

crappy to deal with even legitimate stuff in a meaningful way - e.g.

by implementing all kinds of foolish pseudo-security functions.

Ask them if they have a concern with the Vista firewall specifically,

because if so you should maybe reconsider dealing with these "owners

of the download".



>"Straight Talk" <b__nice@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>news:94ul14lcppba82rkjqnb1kn3mi9nv6ogaj@4ax.com...

>> On Fri, 2 May 2008 08:55:16 +0100, "Zygy" <zygy@microsoft.com> wrote:

>>

>>>It has been recommended that I suspend the Firewall during the download of

>>>a

>>>very sensitive software.

>>

>> Why?

>>

>>>I found the Firewall, but how do I suspend it?

>>

>> Are you talking about the Vista one? - I see no reason to suspend that

>> for any download purposes.

>>

>>>What risks are there if the suspension lasts say for 1hr?

>>

>> Depends on your environment. If your machine is directly connected to

>> the net (has a public IP) I wouldn't risk it.

Zygy · May 2, 2008

You do not give the answer because you do not know it! Time waster!

"Straight Talk" <b__nice@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> On Fri, 2 May 2008 12:33:39 +0100, "Zygy" <zygy@microsoft.com> wrote:

>

>>Thank you for posting, but you do not give me the answer I asked for.

>

> Maybe it wasn't my intention to give you the answer you wanted.

> Thought about that?

>

>>Since I posted my question on a Vista Newsgroup, I must have been

>>referring to a

>>Vista Firewall.

>

> Well, not necessarily, smart ***. Many mislead people run all kinds of

> firewalls on Vista. Did you give it a thought that my question might

> have impact on whether you actually need to suspend that or not?

>

>>If you can give me the answer maybe you could also advise me how to

>>restore

>>the Firewall to a full operating procedure after the suspension.

>

> I'm not going to do that until you give me a solid reason for

> suspending your vista firewall in the first place.

>

>>For your information the owners of the download advise the suspension of

>>the

>>Antivirus and Firewall.

>

> That's common - because lot's of so called "security" stuff is too

> crappy to deal with even legitimate stuff in a meaningful way - e.g.

> by implementing all kinds of foolish pseudo-security functions.

>

> Ask them if they have a concern with the Vista firewall specifically,

> because if so you should maybe reconsider dealing with these "owners

> of the download".

>

>>"Straight Talk" <b__nice@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>news:94ul14lcppba82rkjqnb1kn3mi9nv6ogaj@4ax.com...

>>> On Fri, 2 May 2008 08:55:16 +0100, "Zygy" <zygy@microsoft.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>>It has been recommended that I suspend the Firewall during the download

>>>>of

>>>>a

>>>>very sensitive software.

>>>

>>> Why?

>>>

>>>>I found the Firewall, but how do I suspend it?

>>>

>>> Are you talking about the Vista one? - I see no reason to suspend that

>>> for any download purposes.

>>>

>>>>What risks are there if the suspension lasts say for 1hr?

>>>

>>> Depends on your environment. If your machine is directly connected to

>>> the net (has a public IP) I wouldn't risk it.

Straight Talk · May 2, 2008

On Fri, 2 May 2008 15:00:23 +0100, "Zygy" <zygy@microsoft.com> wrote:



>You do not give the answer because you do not know it! Time waster!

You respond like that because you're clueless.

thread plonk

t-4-2 · May 2, 2008

Zygy;700385 Wrote: 

> It has been recommended that I suspend the Firewall during the download

> of a

> very sensitive software.

>

> I found the Firewall, but how do I suspend it?

>

> What risks are there if the suspension lasts say for 1hr?

Hello Zygy,

1. Terminology correction : It's called Windows Firewall, not vista

firewall.

" -- suspend the firewall--" is not exactly the right way to say

it. Windows Firewall can be either enabled (turned on), or disabled

(turned off).

2. " What risks are there if suspension lasts say for 1 hr?" --- It's

like bank manager opens the bank, opens the vault, unlock all doors,

sends everyone home, leaves the bank totally unattended. What risks do

you think ?

3. Have you tried downloading WITHOUT the owners' " recommendations " ?

Please try that first, if it fails and you REALLY want to risk it, let

me know. It's Not recommended.

--

t-4-2

FromTheRafters · May 2, 2008

Start orb, help and support, type the word

firewall in the search box, then click on enter,

then click on turn Windows firewall on or off,

then read the help file.

If you get lost, come back for a walk through.

By the way, there is no good reason I can think

of for needing to do this merely to download a file.

"Zygy" <zygy@microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> It has been recommended that I suspend the Firewall during the download of

> a very sensitive software.

>

> I found the Firewall, but how do I suspend it?

>

> What risks are there if the suspension lasts say for 1hr?

Ken Blake, MVP · May 2, 2008

On Fri, 2 May 2008 08:55:16 +0100, "Zygy" <zygy@microsoft.com> wrote:



> It has been recommended that I suspend the Firewall during the download of a

> very sensitive software.

Who recommended it and why? Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're

doing, that makes no sense to me.

Exactly what do you mean by "very sensitive software"?



> I found the Firewall, but how do I suspend it?

>

> What risks are there if the suspension lasts say for 1hr? 

--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

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Bruce Chambers · May 2, 2008

Zygy wrote:

> It has been recommended that I suspend the Firewall during the download

> of a very sensitive software.

> 

Never, ever take any computer or network related advice from that

source again.



> I found the Firewall, but how do I suspend it?

> 

Until you tell us what specific firewall you're using, no one can

answer, even if they were so inclined.



> What risks are there if the suspension lasts say for 1hr?

Almost immediately infestation of several nasty types of malware. it'd

takes minutes, at most, before you start seeing pop-ups, etc.

--

Bruce Chambers

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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary

safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has

killed a great many philosophers.

~ Denis Diderot

SG · May 2, 2008

Hi Zygy,

Click Start and click Control Panel.

Click Security Center and then select Windows Firewall on the left side of

the window.

Click Change Settings and from there you can turn it off.

Other posters have told you the dangers of doing this so I won't repeat it.

Just remember to turn it back on as soon as you get your download.

--

All the best,

SG

Is your computer system ready for Vista?

https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/

"Zygy" <zygy@microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> It has been recommended that I suspend the Firewall during the download of

> a very sensitive software.

>

> I found the Firewall, but how do I suspend it?

>

> What risks are there if the suspension lasts say for 1hr?

Bruce Chambers · May 2, 2008

Zygy wrote:

> Thank you for posting, but you do not give me the answer I asked for.

> Since I posted my question on a Vista Newsgroup, I must have been

> referring to a Vista Firewall.

> 

Not necessarily. There are several 3rd party fiewalls tghat work with

Vista.



> If you can give me the answer maybe you could also advise me how to

> restore the Firewall to a full operating procedure after the suspension.

>

> For your information the owners of the download advise the suspension of

> the Antivirus and Firewall.

They're idiots. Don't use their software.

I know I certainly wouldn't install any software being offered by

someone who unnecessarily wants me to ignore the most basic elements of

computer security. I'd have to wonder just what sort of mischief

they're up to.

--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary

safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has

killed a great many philosophers.

~ Denis Diderot

C.B. · May 2, 2008

"Zygy" <zygy@microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> It has been recommended that I suspend the Firewall during the download of

> a very sensitive software.

>

> I found the Firewall, but how do I suspend it?

>

> What risks are there if the suspension lasts say for 1hr?

Zygy,

Although some people will recommend disabling antivirus during the

download and installation of software I see no need whatsoever to disable

your firewall. It is not a wise thing to do. You are asking for trouble if

you do so. I always leave my firewall and AV on when I download and install

software and I have never had a problem.

You would be doing everyone a favor if you would let us know what

software you are referring to and/or the name of the vendor so we can avoid

their products.

C.B.

--

It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged

and unfortunate among us.

Kayman · May 3, 2008

On Fri, 2 May 2008 08:55:16 +0100, Zygy wrote:



> It has been recommended that I suspend the Firewall during the download of a

> very sensitive software.

<snip>

Come on Zygy,

you received quality advice, now return the favor and tell us about the

'highly sensitive software', please.

Zygy · May 3, 2008

Thank you all for the very informative advice.

I found a way of disabling the Firewall by myself and must add that I the

owners who made the recommendation to Disable the Firewall owned up to a

mistake when I queried it after reading the postings! The corrected advice

was to Disable the Firewall during installation and not the download.

I am still glad that I made the posting. It is never too late to learn!

"Kayman" <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote in message

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> On Fri, 2 May 2008 08:55:16 +0100, Zygy wrote:

>

>> It has been recommended that I suspend the Firewall during the download

>> of a

>> very sensitive software.

>

> <snip>

>

> Come on Zygy,

> you received quality advice, now return the favor and tell us about the

> 'highly sensitive software', please.

Straight Talk · May 3, 2008

On Sat, 3 May 2008 11:55:11 +0100, "Zygy" <zygy@microsoft.com> wrote:



>Thank you all for the very informative advice.

You're welcome!

No - wait - that one probably wasn't for me.....



>I found a way of disabling the Firewall by myself and must add that I the

>owners who made the recommendation to Disable the Firewall owned up to a

>mistake when I queried it after reading the postings! 

Well......



>The corrected advice was to Disable the Firewall during installation and

>not the download.

Not to disappoint you - but that also is a very questionable

advice.....



>I am still glad that I made the posting. 

Whatever makes you happy....



>It is never too late to learn!

For once, you're right....



>"Kayman" <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote in message

>news:exxqXJOrIHA.3456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> On Fri, 2 May 2008 08:55:16 +0100, Zygy wrote:

>>

>>> It has been recommended that I suspend the Firewall during the download

>>> of a

>>> very sensitive software.

>>

>> <snip>

>>

>> Come on Zygy,

>> you received quality advice, now return the favor and tell us about the

>> 'highly sensitive software', please.

Ken Blake, MVP · May 3, 2008

On Sat, 3 May 2008 11:55:11 +0100, "Zygy" <zygy@microsoft.com> wrote:



> Thank you all for the very informative advice.

>

> I found a way of disabling the Firewall by myself and must add that I the

> owners who made the recommendation to Disable the Firewall owned up to a

> mistake when I queried it after reading the postings! The corrected advice

> was to Disable the Firewall during installation and not the download.

Sorry, but that "corrected" advice still makes no sense.



>

> I am still glad that I made the posting. It is never too late to learn!

> "Kayman" <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote in message

> news:exxqXJOrIHA.3456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > On Fri, 2 May 2008 08:55:16 +0100, Zygy wrote:

> >

> >> It has been recommended that I suspend the Firewall during the download

> >> of a

> >> very sensitive software.

> >

> > <snip>

> >

> > Come on Zygy,

> > you received quality advice, now return the favor and tell us about the

> > 'highly sensitive software', please. 

--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

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Kayman · May 3, 2008

On Sat, 03 May 2008 09:06:36 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:



> On Sat, 3 May 2008 11:55:11 +0100, "Zygy" <zygy@microsoft.com> wrote:

> 

>> Thank you all for the very informative advice.

>>

>> I found a way of disabling the Firewall by myself and must add that I the

>> owners who made the recommendation to Disable the Firewall owned up to a

>> mistake when I queried it after reading the postings! The corrected advice

>> was to Disable the Firewall during installation and not the download.

>

> Sorry, but that "corrected" advice still makes no sense.

He probably meant 'to disable the software firewall' or allow the 'very

sensitive software' to go through the fw and to allow it to download

related files.

Straight Talk · May 4, 2008

On Sun, 4 May 2008 07:46:23 +0700, Kayman

<kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote:



>On Sat, 03 May 2008 09:06:36 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>

>> On Sat, 3 May 2008 11:55:11 +0100, "Zygy" <zygy@microsoft.com> wrote:

>> 

>>> Thank you all for the very informative advice.

>>>

>>> I found a way of disabling the Firewall by myself and must add that I the

>>> owners who made the recommendation to Disable the Firewall owned up to a

>>> mistake when I queried it after reading the postings! The corrected advice

>>> was to Disable the Firewall during installation and not the download.

>>

>> Sorry, but that "corrected" advice still makes no sense.

>

>He probably meant 'to disable the software firewall' or allow the 'very

>sensitive software' to go through the fw and to allow it to download

>related files.

Yes. That's how malware often works.

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