Guest MioMyo Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 Now this Craig idiot, guilty or not, did plead guilty, yet the point being he is a fine example and excellent argument why term limits are so desperately needed to clean house in Washington. Further, it's not whether or not Craig is gay- no one cares, nor it's not that his seat will change parties- this is unlikely. What it is, this fool has been in Washington so long, he wants to argue what "WAS" should have been- something he should have thought of when accepting his guilty status. In reality, Craig's lust to remain in power is his overwhelming concern, not his word, nor not that he's changed his word on this topic many times over- thereby Clintonized himself. And now Craig is both an embarrassment to himself -his family too and also to the institutions of congress. As if Larry Craig isn't a great example why term limits time has come, I believe if the majority of congress were exposed, there'd be overwhelming similar examples why this country would be better off if these decision makers were essentially a product of American society, not American society a product of career politicians. Just look at teddy Chappiquiddick kennedy as another fine example what career politicians morph into! http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20071005/cm_uc_crsesx/op_394013 He didn't even flush the toilet. When he exited the bathroom stall, Senator Larry Craig never flushed the toilet. As my kids would say when they were little, that certainly suggests he didn't have to go. So what was he doing peering into someone else's stall for long enough that the officer was able to see he had blue eyes? Why did he wait for the adjoining stall to be empty when there were plenty of others available? What was he doing tapping his foot and waving his hand underneath the divider between the stalls? Certainly not going to the bathroom. Larry Craig must think the people of Idaho are fools. He certainly has no problem lying to them, and the rest of us. Maybe it's all those years in Congress that have left him thinking he can get away with anything he wants. After the media - Roll Call in particular - disclosed that Craig had pleaded guilty to cruising for sex in a men's room at the Minneapolis airport, the distinguished gentleman from Idaho announced he would resign as of September 30. Then he changed his mind and said he was going to try to withdraw his guilty plea and would hold off on resigning until the judge reached a decision on that issue. On Thursday, the judge reached a decision. To the surprise of no one who knows anything about criminal law, Judge Porter of the Minneapolis Superior Court concluded there was absolutely no basis for Senator Craig to withdraw his plea, no new evidence of anything, no showing that he'd been coerced by the prosecutors or police to plead guilty, nothing approaching the proof of a "manifest injustice" that would allow the plea to be withdrawn. So now Craig has changed his mind again. Now, he's decided that even though he lost in court and has as much chance of winning on appeal as I do of winning the lottery (I don't even buy tickets) he's going to serve out his term for the good of the people of Idaho. Liar, liar, pants on fire. The best thing he could do for the people of Idaho, and the rest of us, is spare us the embarrassment of what's to come next. Just what we need is an ethics hearing on the mechanics of bathroom pickups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Click@Knicklas.com Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 05:41:27 -0700, "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote: >Now this Craig idiot, guilty or not, did plead guilty, yet the point being >he is a fine example and excellent argument why term limits are so >desperately needed to clean house in Washington What the fuck is wrong with you. Why any thinking person believes that replacing one politician with another politician solves anything is mind-boggling. The purpose of having a "politician" in the first place---is to DO "political things"----among which is represent a constituency. Why in fuck would you send "another green politician" to try and leverage YOUR intrests in a system that cannot be altered to any degree? You're really describing an irrational argument that wants YOUR politician to be "okay"----but get rid of ALL those politicians YOU don't agree with-----IOW "someone else's" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Miles Long Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 MioMyo wrote: > Now this Craig idiot, guilty or not, did plead guilty, yet the point being > he is a fine example and excellent argument why term limits are so > desperately needed to clean house in Washington. Further, it's not whether > or not Craig is gay- no one cares, nor it's not that his seat will change > parties- this is unlikely. What it is, this fool has been in Washington so > long, he wants to argue what "WAS" should have been- something he should > have thought of when accepting his guilty status. Actually, Zippy the Clown, it's the hypocrisy of an anti-gay stance by a man who smokes cock. Do try and keep up... <laughing> Miles "Grasp of the Obvious" Long > In reality, Craig's lust > to remain in power is his overwhelming concern, not his word, nor not that > he's changed his word on this topic many times over- thereby Clintonized > himself. And now Craig is both an embarrassment to himself -his family too > and also to the institutions of congress. > > As if Larry Craig isn't a great example why term limits time has come, I > believe if the majority of congress were exposed, there'd be overwhelming > similar examples why this country would be better off if these decision > makers were essentially a product of American society, not American society > a product of career politicians. Just look at teddy Chappiquiddick kennedy > as another fine example what career politicians morph into! > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20071005/cm_uc_crsesx/op_394013 > > He didn't even flush the toilet. > > When he exited the bathroom stall, Senator Larry Craig never flushed the > toilet. As my kids would say when they were little, that certainly suggests > he didn't have to go. > > So what was he doing peering into someone else's stall for long enough that > the officer was able to see he had blue eyes? Why did he wait for the > adjoining stall to be empty when there were plenty of others available? What > was he doing tapping his foot and waving his hand underneath the divider > between the stalls? Certainly not going to the bathroom. > > Larry Craig must think the people of Idaho are fools. He certainly has no > problem lying to them, and the rest of us. Maybe it's all those years in > Congress that have left him thinking he can get away with anything he wants. > > After the media - Roll Call in particular - disclosed that Craig had pleaded > guilty to cruising for sex in a men's room at the Minneapolis airport, the > distinguished gentleman from Idaho announced he would resign as of September > 30. > > Then he changed his mind and said he was going to try to withdraw his guilty > plea and would hold off on resigning until the judge reached a decision on > that issue. > > On Thursday, the judge reached a decision. To the surprise of no one who > knows anything about criminal law, Judge Porter of the Minneapolis Superior > Court concluded there was absolutely no basis for Senator Craig to withdraw > his plea, no new evidence of anything, no showing that he'd been coerced by > the prosecutors or police to plead guilty, nothing approaching the proof of > a "manifest injustice" that would allow the plea to be withdrawn. > > So now Craig has changed his mind again. Now, he's decided that even though > he lost in court and has as much chance of winning on appeal as I do of > winning the lottery (I don't even buy tickets) he's going to serve out his > term for the good of the people of Idaho. > > Liar, liar, pants on fire. > > The best thing he could do for the people of Idaho, and the rest of us, is > spare us the embarrassment of what's to come next. Just what we need is an > ethics hearing on the mechanics of bathroom pickups. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MioMyo Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20071005/cm_uc_crsesx/op_394013 He didn't even flush the toilet. When he exited the bathroom stall, Senator Larry Craig never flushed the toilet. As my kids would say when they were little, that certainly suggests he didn't have to go. So what was he doing peering into someone else's stall for long enough that the officer was able to see he had blue eyes? Why did he wait for the adjoining stall to be empty when there were plenty of others available? What was he doing tapping his foot and waving his hand underneath the divider between the stalls? Certainly not going to the bathroom. Larry Craig must think the people of Idaho are fools. He certainly has no problem lying to them, and the rest of us. Maybe it's all those years in Congress that have left him thinking he can get away with anything he wants. After the media - Roll Call in particular - disclosed that Craig had pleaded guilty to cruising for sex in a men's room at the Minneapolis airport, the distinguished gentleman from Idaho announced he would resign as of September 30. Then he changed his mind and said he was going to try to withdraw his guilty plea and would hold off on resigning until the judge reached a decision on that issue. On Thursday, the judge reached a decision. To the surprise of no one who knows anything about criminal law, Judge Porter of the Minneapolis Superior Court concluded there was absolutely no basis for Senator Craig to withdraw his plea, no new evidence of anything, no showing that he'd been coerced by the prosecutors or police to plead guilty, nothing approaching the proof of a "manifest injustice" that would allow the plea to be withdrawn. So now Craig has changed his mind again. Now, he's decided that even though he lost in court and has as much chance of winning on appeal as I do of winning the lottery (I don't even buy tickets) he's going to serve out his term for the good of the people of Idaho. Liar, liar, pants on fire. The best thing he could do for the people of Idaho, and the rest of us, is spare us the embarrassment of what's to come next. Just what we need is an ethics hearing on the mechanics of bathroom pickups. <Click@Knicklas.com> wrote in message news:vi3fg35sug419dqt9ehb2phhjm28qf41pp@4ax.com... > On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 05:41:27 -0700, "MioMyo" > <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote: > >>Now this Craig idiot, guilty or not, did plead guilty, yet the point being >>he is a fine example and excellent argument why term limits are so >>desperately needed to clean house in Washington > > > What the fuck is wrong with you. > > Why any thinking person believes that replacing one > politician with another politician solves anything is > mind-boggling. I don't expect someone like you knickers to understand what it is to stand by your word, just as you have demonstrated time & again you don't understand the meaning of noble concepts like "honor," "dignity," and "integrity." > The purpose of having a "politician" in the first > place---is to DO "political things"----among which is > represent a constituency. > > Why in fuck would you send "another green politician" > to try and leverage YOUR intrests in a system that > cannot be altered to any degree? > > You're really describing an irrational argument that > wants YOUR politician to be "okay"----but get rid of > ALL those politicians YOU don't agree with-----IOW > "someone else's" > Thanks for explaining the liberal platform which is, "LIE," "CHEAT" and/or do the political thing because "The Ends Justify The Means"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tartarus Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 On Oct 6, 6:41 am, "MioMyo" <USA_Patr...@Somewhere.com> wrote: > Now this Craig idiot, guilty or not, did plead guilty, yet the point being > he is a fine example and excellent argument why term limits are so > desperately needed to clean house in Washington. Further, it's not whether > or not Craig is gay- no one cares, Wrong. You care. That is why you are writing this nonsense. Tartarus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MioMyo Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 "Miles Long" <Miles@Home.net> wrote in message news:o_qdnS8tL4EcDpranZ2dnUVZ_vbinZ2d@giganews.com... > MioMyo wrote: >> Now this Craig idiot, guilty or not, did plead guilty, yet the point >> being he is a fine example and excellent argument why term limits are so >> desperately needed to clean house in Washington. Further, it's not >> whether or not Craig is gay- no one cares, nor it's not that his seat >> will change parties- this is unlikely. What it is, this fool has been in >> Washington so long, he wants to argue what "WAS" should have been- >> something he should have thought of when accepting his guilty status. > > Actually, Zippy the Clown, it's the hypocrisy of an anti-gay stance > by a man who smokes cock. Do try and keep up... <laughing> > > Miles "Grasp of the Obvious" Long So according to your logic, all dems are out of the closet eh? or they don't have any dirty little secrets like $90,000 of illegal campaign cash in the freezer (but one example) they're hiding? Do go on telling us, though, how sanctimoniously clean you think your politicians are Wrong, while I'll continue arguing politicians should do the right thing and pass term limits in order to inject a bit of reality into our failing political system! > > In reality, Craig's lust >> to remain in power is his overwhelming concern, not his word, nor not >> that he's changed his word on this topic many times over- thereby >> Clintonized himself. And now Craig is both an embarrassment to >> himself -his family too and also to the institutions of congress. >> >> As if Larry Craig isn't a great example why term limits time has come, I >> believe if the majority of congress were exposed, there'd be overwhelming >> similar examples why this country would be better off if these decision >> makers were essentially a product of American society, not American >> society a product of career politicians. Just look at teddy >> Chappiquiddick kennedy as another fine example what career politicians >> morph into! >> >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20071005/cm_uc_crsesx/op_394013 >> >> He didn't even flush the toilet. >> >> When he exited the bathroom stall, Senator Larry Craig never flushed the >> toilet. As my kids would say when they were little, that certainly >> suggests he didn't have to go. >> >> So what was he doing peering into someone else's stall for long enough >> that the officer was able to see he had blue eyes? Why did he wait for >> the adjoining stall to be empty when there were plenty of others >> available? What was he doing tapping his foot and waving his hand >> underneath the divider between the stalls? Certainly not going to the >> bathroom. >> >> Larry Craig must think the people of Idaho are fools. He certainly has no >> problem lying to them, and the rest of us. Maybe it's all those years in >> Congress that have left him thinking he can get away with anything he >> wants. >> >> After the media - Roll Call in particular - disclosed that Craig had >> pleaded guilty to cruising for sex in a men's room at the Minneapolis >> airport, the distinguished gentleman from Idaho announced he would resign >> as of September 30. >> >> Then he changed his mind and said he was going to try to withdraw his >> guilty plea and would hold off on resigning until the judge reached a >> decision on that issue. >> >> On Thursday, the judge reached a decision. To the surprise of no one who >> knows anything about criminal law, Judge Porter of the Minneapolis >> Superior Court concluded there was absolutely no basis for Senator Craig >> to withdraw his plea, no new evidence of anything, no showing that he'd >> been coerced by the prosecutors or police to plead guilty, nothing >> approaching the proof of a "manifest injustice" that would allow the plea >> to be withdrawn. >> >> So now Craig has changed his mind again. Now, he's decided that even >> though he lost in court and has as much chance of winning on appeal as I >> do of winning the lottery (I don't even buy tickets) he's going to serve >> out his term for the good of the people of Idaho. >> >> Liar, liar, pants on fire. >> >> The best thing he could do for the people of Idaho, and the rest of us, >> is spare us the embarrassment of what's to come next. Just what we need >> is an ethics hearing on the mechanics of bathroom pickups. >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lorad474@cs.com Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 On Oct 6, 5:41 am, "MioMyo" <USA_Patr...@Somewhere.com> wrote: > Tappy Toes Larry Craig Aren't you proud of your republican icons? (even though you appear to be some canuckian loon) Get out there and thank your idol properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dan Kimmel Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message news:WnLNi.416$LD2.315@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net... > Now this Craig idiot, guilty or not, did plead guilty, yet the point being > he is a fine example and excellent argument why term limits are so > desperately needed to clean house in Washington. Nonsense. First, Craig has already announced he's not running for re-election. And if that turns out to be a lie too he'll be taken out in the primary or the general election. Term limits are a terrible idea foisted by Repubic wingnuts when they don't think they can win elections any way else. The real term limit is in the voting booth. America had no trouble limiting the term of the Republic-controlled Congress last election, and we'll clip their wings even more next year, now that it's likely we'll pick up seats in Virginia, Nebraska and now New Mexico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MioMyo Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message news:TO6dnQR9mf32W5ranZ2dnUVZ_vvinZ2d@rcn.net... > > "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message > news:WnLNi.416$LD2.315@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net... >> Now this Craig idiot, guilty or not, did plead guilty, yet the point >> being >> he is a fine example and excellent argument why term limits are so >> desperately needed to clean house in Washington. > > Nonsense. First, Craig has already announced he's not running for > re-election. But he's pulling a clinton or another typical democrat bait and switch you dumb-ass. Plus, I don't believe he's up for election next year. > And if that turns out to be a lie too he'll be taken out in > the primary or the general election. > > Term limits are a terrible idea foisted by Repubic wingnuts when they > don't > think they can win elections any way else. That's an opinion which may not be held by a majority of Americans and should be brought up by referendum since career politicians will only continue sucking off the government tit while dishing out favors to their constituents to keep them in power! Plus, if it's good enough for the president (not required by the original framers, but later passed), then the same arguments can be applied to the congress too. > The real term limit is in the > voting booth. America had no trouble limiting the term of the > Republic-controlled Congress last election, and we'll clip their wings > even > more next year, now that it's likely we'll pick up seats in Virginia, > Nebraska and now New Mexico. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dan Kimmel Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message news:_PPNi.6868$6p6.4303@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net... > > "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message > news:TO6dnQR9mf32W5ranZ2dnUVZ_vvinZ2d@rcn.net... > > > > "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message > > news:WnLNi.416$LD2.315@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net... > >> Now this Craig idiot, guilty or not, did plead guilty, yet the point > >> being > >> he is a fine example and excellent argument why term limits are so > >> desperately needed to clean house in Washington. > > > > Nonsense. First, Craig has already announced he's not running for > > re-election. > > But he's pulling a clinton or another typical democrat bait and switch you > dumb-ass. No, moron, he's pulling a Bush: lie until the lie become untentable, then igorne it and come up with a new lie. > Plus, I don't believe he's up for election next year. As with most things you "believe," you're wrong. His, you should excuse the expression, seat is up for grabs next year. > > > And if that turns out to be a lie too he'll be taken out in > > the primary or the general election. > > > > Term limits are a terrible idea foisted by Repubic wingnuts when they > > don't > > think they can win elections any way else. > > That's an opinion which may not be held by a majority of Americans and > should be brought up by referendum since career politicians will only > continue sucking off the government tit while dishing out favors to their > constituents to keep them in power! You're a Republic wingnut all right. You learn nothing from history. Presidential term limits were foisted on us by the Republics after FDR won four elections. So who was the first president it affected? Eisenhower. Reagan might have won a third term as well (unless the Alzheimer's already affecting him in the White House became public). So all you're doing is peventing people from exercising their free choice because YOU don't like their choices. Notice how term limits was a Republic cry until1994, then disappeared. Now that it looks like the Republics have screwed themselves (as they screwed America) for years to come, suddenly up pops the Republc wingnuts bleating about "term limits." > Plus, if it's good enough for the president (not required by the original > framers, but later passed), then the same arguments can be applied to the > congress too. Good point. Let's repeal presidential term limits, a bad idea that never should have been enacted. Then we can re-elect Bill Clinton, who would win in a cakewalk. > > The real term limit is in the > > voting booth. America had no trouble limiting the term of the > > Republic-controlled Congress last election, and we'll clip their wings > > even > > more next year, now that it's likely we'll pick up seats in Virginia, > > Nebraska and now New Mexico. Why do you hate Americans so much that you don't trust them in the voting booth? One way or another, Republic wingnuts prefer rigged elections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MioMyo Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message news:QNGdnQdhj_JER5ranZ2dnUVZ_hzinZ2d@rcn.net... > > "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message > news:_PPNi.6868$6p6.4303@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net... >> >> "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message >> news:TO6dnQR9mf32W5ranZ2dnUVZ_vvinZ2d@rcn.net... >> > >> > "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message >> > news:WnLNi.416$LD2.315@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net... >> >> Now this Craig idiot, guilty or not, did plead guilty, yet the point >> >> being >> >> he is a fine example and excellent argument why term limits are so >> >> desperately needed to clean house in Washington. >> > >> > Nonsense. First, Craig has already announced he's not running for >> > re-election. >> >> But he's pulling a clinton or another typical democrat bait and switch >> you >> dumb-ass. > > No, moron, he's pulling a Bush: lie until the lie become untentable, then > igorne it and come up with a new lie. Your partisan, hate-contrived opinion is duly noted you idiot. >> Plus, I don't believe he's up for election next year. > > As with most things you "believe," you're wrong. His, you should excuse > the > expression, seat is up for grabs next year. Bring it. Idaho is as patriotically red as it gets! >> > And if that turns out to be a lie too he'll be taken out in >> > the primary or the general election. >> > >> > Term limits are a terrible idea foisted by Repubic wingnuts when they >> > don't >> > think they can win elections any way else. >> >> That's an opinion which may not be held by a majority of Americans and >> should be brought up by referendum since career politicians will only >> continue sucking off the government tit while dishing out favors to their >> constituents to keep them in power! > > You're a Republic wingnut all right. You learn nothing from history. > Presidential term limits were foisted on us by the Republics after FDR won > four elections. So who was the first president it affected? Eisenhower. > Reagan might have won a third term as well (unless the Alzheimer's already > affecting him in the White House became public). So all you're doing is > peventing people from exercising their free choice because YOU don't like > their choices. Notice how term limits was a Republic cry until1994, then > disappeared. Now that it looks like the Republics have screwed themselves > (as they screwed America) for years to come, suddenly up pops the Republc > wingnuts bleating about "term limits." > > >> Plus, if it's good enough for the president (not required by the original >> framers, but later passed), then the same arguments can be applied to the >> congress too. > > Good point. Let's repeal presidential term limits, a bad idea that never > should have been enacted. Then we can re-elect Bill Clinton, who would > win > in a cakewalk. > > > >> > The real term limit is in the >> > voting booth. America had no trouble limiting the term of the >> > Republic-controlled Congress last election, and we'll clip their wings >> > even >> > more next year, now that it's likely we'll pick up seats in Virginia, >> > Nebraska and now New Mexico. > > Why do you hate Americans so much that you don't trust them in the voting > booth? One way or another, Republic wingnuts prefer rigged elections. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dan Kimmel Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message news:LBSNi.884$R95.801@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com... > > "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message > news:QNGdnQdhj_JER5ranZ2dnUVZ_hzinZ2d@rcn.net... > > > > "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message > > news:_PPNi.6868$6p6.4303@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net... > >> > >> "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message > >> news:TO6dnQR9mf32W5ranZ2dnUVZ_vvinZ2d@rcn.net... > >> > > >> > "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message > >> > news:WnLNi.416$LD2.315@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net... > >> >> Now this Craig idiot, guilty or not, did plead guilty, yet the point > >> >> being > >> >> he is a fine example and excellent argument why term limits are so > >> >> desperately needed to clean house in Washington. > >> > > >> > Nonsense. First, Craig has already announced he's not running for > >> > re-election. > >> > >> But he's pulling a clinton or another typical democrat bait and switch > >> you > >> dumb-ass. > > > > No, moron, he's pulling a Bush: lie until the lie become untentable, then > > igorne it and come up with a new lie. > > Your partisan, hate-contrived opinion is duly noted you idiot. Your partisan, hate-contrived opinion is duly noted you idiot. > > >> Plus, I don't believe he's up for election next year. > > > > As with most things you "believe," you're wrong. His, you should excuse > > the > > expression, seat is up for grabs next year. > > Bring it. Idaho is as patriotically red as it gets! Thanks for conceding that Virginia, New Mexico and Nebraska will vote American rather than for continuing the failures of the Republic Party. Who knows, if patriots in Idaho REALLY comes out and vote, maybe the Republic candidate will be defeated there as well. > > > >> > And if that turns out to be a lie too he'll be taken out in > >> > the primary or the general election. > >> > > >> > Term limits are a terrible idea foisted by Repubic wingnuts when they > >> > don't > >> > think they can win elections any way else. > >> > >> That's an opinion which may not be held by a majority of Americans and > >> should be brought up by referendum since career politicians will only > >> continue sucking off the government tit while dishing out favors to their > >> constituents to keep them in power! > > > > You're a Republic wingnut all right. You learn nothing from history. > > Presidential term limits were foisted on us by the Republics after FDR won > > four elections. So who was the first president it affected? Eisenhower. > > Reagan might have won a third term as well (unless the Alzheimer's already > > affecting him in the White House became public). So all you're doing is > > peventing people from exercising their free choice because YOU don't like > > their choices. Notice how term limits was a Republic cry until1994, then > > disappeared. Now that it looks like the Republics have screwed themselves > > (as they screwed America) for years to come, suddenly up pops the Republc > > wingnuts bleating about "term limits." > > > > > >> Plus, if it's good enough for the president (not required by the original > >> framers, but later passed), then the same arguments can be applied to the > >> congress too. > > > > Good point. Let's repeal presidential term limits, a bad idea that never > > should have been enacted. Then we can re-elect Bill Clinton, who would > > win > > in a cakewalk. > > > > > > > >> > The real term limit is in the > >> > voting booth. America had no trouble limiting the term of the > >> > Republic-controlled Congress last election, and we'll clip their wings > >> > even > >> > more next year, now that it's likely we'll pick up seats in Virginia, > >> > Nebraska and now New Mexico. > > > > Why do you hate Americans so much that you don't trust them in the voting > > booth? One way or another, Republic wingnuts prefer rigged elections. > > I accept your concession (by your non-response) that Republic wingnuts prefer rigged elections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Miles Long Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 MioMyo wrote: > "Miles Long" <Miles@Home.net> wrote in message > news:o_qdnS8tL4EcDpranZ2dnUVZ_vbinZ2d@giganews.com... >> MioMyo wrote: >>> Now this Craig idiot, guilty or not, did plead guilty, yet the point >>> being he is a fine example and excellent argument why term limits are so >>> desperately needed to clean house in Washington. Further, it's not >>> whether or not Craig is gay- no one cares, nor it's not that his seat >>> will change parties- this is unlikely. What it is, this fool has been in >>> Washington so long, he wants to argue what "WAS" should have been- >>> something he should have thought of when accepting his guilty status. >> Actually, Zippy the Clown, it's the hypocrisy of an anti-gay stance >> by a man who smokes cock. Do try and keep up... <laughing> >> >> Miles "Grasp of the Obvious" Long > > So according to your logic, all dems are out of the closet eh? or they don't > have any dirty little secrets like $90,000 of illegal campaign cash in the > freezer (but one example) they're hiding? > > Do go on telling us, though, how sanctimoniously clean you think your > politicians are Wrong, while I'll continue arguing politicians should do the > right thing and pass term limits in order to inject a bit of reality into > our failing political system! > What are you, six years old? <laughing> Although, even six year olds display better reading skills and retention than pitiful you... Miles "Again, Over His/Her Head" Long > >>> In reality, Craig's lust >>> to remain in power is his overwhelming concern, not his word, nor not >>> that he's changed his word on this topic many times over- thereby >>> Clintonized himself. And now Craig is both an embarrassment to >>> himself -his family too and also to the institutions of congress. >>> >>> As if Larry Craig isn't a great example why term limits time has come, I >>> believe if the majority of congress were exposed, there'd be overwhelming >>> similar examples why this country would be better off if these decision >>> makers were essentially a product of American society, not American >>> society a product of career politicians. Just look at teddy >>> Chappiquiddick kennedy as another fine example what career politicians >>> morph into! >>> >>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20071005/cm_uc_crsesx/op_394013 >>> >>> He didn't even flush the toilet. >>> >>> When he exited the bathroom stall, Senator Larry Craig never flushed the >>> toilet. As my kids would say when they were little, that certainly >>> suggests he didn't have to go. >>> >>> So what was he doing peering into someone else's stall for long enough >>> that the officer was able to see he had blue eyes? Why did he wait for >>> the adjoining stall to be empty when there were plenty of others >>> available? What was he doing tapping his foot and waving his hand >>> underneath the divider between the stalls? Certainly not going to the >>> bathroom. >>> >>> Larry Craig must think the people of Idaho are fools. He certainly has no >>> problem lying to them, and the rest of us. Maybe it's all those years in >>> Congress that have left him thinking he can get away with anything he >>> wants. >>> >>> After the media - Roll Call in particular - disclosed that Craig had >>> pleaded guilty to cruising for sex in a men's room at the Minneapolis >>> airport, the distinguished gentleman from Idaho announced he would resign >>> as of September 30. >>> >>> Then he changed his mind and said he was going to try to withdraw his >>> guilty plea and would hold off on resigning until the judge reached a >>> decision on that issue. >>> >>> On Thursday, the judge reached a decision. To the surprise of no one who >>> knows anything about criminal law, Judge Porter of the Minneapolis >>> Superior Court concluded there was absolutely no basis for Senator Craig >>> to withdraw his plea, no new evidence of anything, no showing that he'd >>> been coerced by the prosecutors or police to plead guilty, nothing >>> approaching the proof of a "manifest injustice" that would allow the plea >>> to be withdrawn. >>> >>> So now Craig has changed his mind again. Now, he's decided that even >>> though he lost in court and has as much chance of winning on appeal as I >>> do of winning the lottery (I don't even buy tickets) he's going to serve >>> out his term for the good of the people of Idaho. >>> >>> Liar, liar, pants on fire. >>> >>> The best thing he could do for the people of Idaho, and the rest of us, >>> is spare us the embarrassment of what's to come next. Just what we need >>> is an ethics hearing on the mechanics of bathroom pickups. >>> >>> >>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MioMyo Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message news:TJGdndgm18E5iZXanZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@rcn.net... > > "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message > news:LBSNi.884$R95.801@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com... >> >> "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message >> news:QNGdnQdhj_JER5ranZ2dnUVZ_hzinZ2d@rcn.net... >> > >> > "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message >> > news:_PPNi.6868$6p6.4303@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net... >> >> >> >> "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message >> >> news:TO6dnQR9mf32W5ranZ2dnUVZ_vvinZ2d@rcn.net... >> >> > >> >> > "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message >> >> > news:WnLNi.416$LD2.315@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net... >> >> >> Now this Craig idiot, guilty or not, did plead guilty, yet the >> >> >> point >> >> >> being >> >> >> he is a fine example and excellent argument why term limits are so >> >> >> desperately needed to clean house in Washington. >> >> > >> >> > Nonsense. First, Craig has already announced he's not running for >> >> > re-election. >> >> >> >> But he's pulling a clinton or another typical democrat bait and switch >> >> you >> >> dumb-ass. >> > >> > No, moron, he's pulling a Bush: lie until the lie become untentable, > then >> > igorne it and come up with a new lie. >> >> Your partisan, hate-contrived opinion is duly noted you idiot. > > > Your partisan, hate-contrived opinion is duly noted you idiot. > > >> >> >> Plus, I don't believe he's up for election next year. >> > >> > As with most things you "believe," you're wrong. His, you should >> > excuse >> > the >> > expression, seat is up for grabs next year. >> >> Bring it. Idaho is as patriotically red as it gets! > > Thanks for conceding that Virginia, New Mexico and Nebraska will vote Where did I concede anything bitch? Answer: didn't and you know it which makes you a scum liar, > Who knows, if patriots in Idaho REALLY comes out and vote, maybe the > Republic candidate will be defeated there as well. So according to kimmey if they don't vote democrat, the election must have been stolen! Come on bitch let's have it on the record right now. >> >> > And if that turns out to be a lie too he'll be taken out in >> >> > the primary or the general election. >> >> > >> >> > Term limits are a terrible idea foisted by Repubic wingnuts when >> >> > they >> >> > don't >> >> > think they can win elections any way else. >> >> >> >> That's an opinion which may not be held by a majority of Americans and >> >> should be brought up by referendum since career politicians will only >> >> continue sucking off the government tit while dishing out favors to > their >> >> constituents to keep them in power! >> > >> > You're a Republic wingnut all right. You learn nothing from history. >> > Presidential term limits were foisted on us by the Republics after FDR > won >> > four elections. So who was the first president it affected? > Eisenhower. >> > Reagan might have won a third term as well (unless the Alzheimer's > already >> > affecting him in the White House became public). So all you're doing >> > is >> > peventing people from exercising their free choice because YOU don't > like >> > their choices. Notice how term limits was a Republic cry until1994, > then >> > disappeared. Now that it looks like the Republics have screwed > themselves >> > (as they screwed America) for years to come, suddenly up pops the > Republc >> > wingnuts bleating about "term limits." >> > >> > >> >> Plus, if it's good enough for the president (not required by the > original >> >> framers, but later passed), then the same arguments can be applied to > the >> >> congress too. >> > >> > Good point. Let's repeal presidential term limits, a bad idea that > never >> > should have been enacted. Then we can re-elect Bill Clinton, who would >> > win >> > in a cakewalk. >> > >> > >> > >> >> > The real term limit is in the >> >> > voting booth. America had no trouble limiting the term of the >> >> > Republic-controlled Congress last election, and we'll clip their > wings >> >> > even >> >> > more next year, now that it's likely we'll pick up seats in >> >> > Virginia, >> >> > Nebraska and now New Mexico. >> > >> > Why do you hate Americans so much that you don't trust them in the > voting >> > booth? One way or another, Republic wingnuts prefer rigged elections. >> > > > > I accept your concession (by your non-response) that Republic wingnuts > prefer rigged elections. Wrong, democrat have made crooked elections an art form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 9 Trillion Dollar Republican Natio Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 On Oct 6, 4:54 pm, "MioMyo" <USA_Patr...@Somewhere.com> wrote: > "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kim...@rcn.com> wrote in message > > news:QNGdnQdhj_JER5ranZ2dnUVZ_hzinZ2d@rcn.net... > > > > > > > "MioMyo" <USA_Patr...@Somewhere.com> wrote in message > >news:_PPNi.6868$6p6.4303@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net... > > >> "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kim...@rcn.com> wrote in message > >>news:TO6dnQR9mf32W5ranZ2dnUVZ_vvinZ2d@rcn.net... > > >> > "MioMyo" <USA_Patr...@Somewhere.com> wrote in message > >> >news:WnLNi.416$LD2.315@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net... > >> >> Now this Craig idiot, guilty or not, did plead guilty, yet the point > >> >> being > >> >> he is a fine example and excellent argument why term limits are so > >> >> desperately needed to clean house in Washington. > > >> > Nonsense. First, Craig has already announced he's not running for > >> > re-election. > > >> But he's pulling a clinton or another typical democrat bait and switch > >> you > >> dumb-ass. > > > No, moron, he's pulling a Bush: lie until the lie become untentable, then > > igorne it and come up with a new lie. > > Your partisan, hate-contrived opinion is duly noted you idiot. > > >> Plus, I don't believe he's up for election next year. > > > As with most things you "believe," you're wrong. His, you should excuse > > the > > expression, seat is up for grabs next year. = Bring it. Idaho is as patriotically red as it gets! yeah and so is Larry the Fairy Craig's sore throat from all those blow jobs! > >> > And if that turns out to be a lie too he'll be taken out in > >> > the primary or the general election. > > >> > Term limits are a terrible idea foisted by Repubic wingnuts when they > >> > don't > >> > think they can win elections any way else. > > >> That's an opinion which may not be held by a majority of Americans and > >> should be brought up by referendum since career politicians will only > >> continue sucking off the government tit while dishing out favors to their > >> constituents to keep them in power! > > > You're a Republic wingnut all right. You learn nothing from history. > > Presidential term limits were foisted on us by the Republics after FDR won > > four elections. So who was the first president it affected? Eisenhower. > > Reagan might have won a third term as well (unless the Alzheimer's already > > affecting him in the White House became public). So all you're doing is > > peventing people from exercising their free choice because YOU don't like > > their choices. Notice how term limits was a Republic cry until1994, then > > disappeared. Now that it looks like the Republics have screwed themselves > > (as they screwed America) for years to come, suddenly up pops the Republc > > wingnuts bleating about "term limits." > > >> Plus, if it's good enough for the president (not required by the original > >> framers, but later passed), then the same arguments can be applied to the > >> congress too. > > > Good point. Let's repeal presidential term limits, a bad idea that never > > should have been enacted. Then we can re-elect Bill Clinton, who would > > win > > in a cakewalk. > > >> > The real term limit is in the > >> > voting booth. America had no trouble limiting the term of the > >> > Republic-controlled Congress last election, and we'll clip their wings > >> > even > >> > more next year, now that it's likely we'll pick up seats in Virginia, > >> > Nebraska and now New Mexico. > > > Why do you hate Americans so much that you don't trust them in the voting > > booth? One way or another, Republic wingnuts prefer rigged elections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Click@Knicklas.com Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:01:55 GMT, "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote: >> What the fuck is wrong with you. >> >> Why any thinking person believes that replacing one >> politician with another politician solves anything is >> mind-boggling. > >I don't expect someone like you knickers to understand what it is to stand >by your word, just as you have demonstrated time & again you don't >understand the meaning of noble concepts like "honor," "dignity," and >"integrity." So YOU stand by YOUR conservative "principles" of Slavery, Jim Crow, lynching, whipping, abuse, child labor, "states rights", White Supremacy, hatred of aliens, immigrants, the eldery, the poor, women, children and using government to fuck the majority for the good of a FEW? Was it "dignified" for a cabal of conservatives to take out full page ads against Kennedy the month he was assasinated, or ads calling for the impeachment of Earl Warren because he (a LIBERAL) expanded Civil Rights, Civil Liberties, and curtailed police power over citizens? Was it "honorable" for your favorite drooling turnip to LIE to congress, LIE to the American people about selling our SWORN enemies weapon? Was it "honorable" for William Bennett to suggest that if they could find a "question of character" to use against Clinton in 1995, they might be able to help themselves politically----thus ushering in the $4 Million given CPAC (policy making arm of the GOP/RNC) to conduct a smear against a president that was killing them politically? Was it honorable for nearly every conservative to vote against regulating Child labor, providing a "safety net" for the elderly, expanding womens rights, workers rights, or helping the homeless and hungry Just what the fuck DID conservatism EVER do for the good of America---that wasn't first considered good for the wealthiest and most powerful, you goddamn uneducated moron. >> You're really describing an irrational argument that >> wants YOUR politician to be "okay"----but get rid of >> ALL those politicians YOU don't agree with-----IOW >> "someone else's" >> > >Thanks for explaining the liberal platform which is, "LIE," "CHEAT" and/or >do the political thing because "The Ends Justify The Means"! Exactly what was the fundamental basis for the millions spent by CPAC "finding" paula Jones, you stupid fuck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest robw Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 When? "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message news:xuWNi.2536$y21.1380@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net... > > "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message > news:TJGdndgm18E5iZXanZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@rcn.net... > > > > "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message > > news:LBSNi.884$R95.801@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com... > >> > >> "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message > >> news:QNGdnQdhj_JER5ranZ2dnUVZ_hzinZ2d@rcn.net... > >> > > >> > "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message > >> > news:_PPNi.6868$6p6.4303@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net... > >> >> > >> >> "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:TO6dnQR9mf32W5ranZ2dnUVZ_vvinZ2d@rcn.net... > >> >> > > >> >> > "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message > >> >> > news:WnLNi.416$LD2.315@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net... > >> >> >> Now this Craig idiot, guilty or not, did plead guilty, yet the > >> >> >> point > >> >> >> being > >> >> >> he is a fine example and excellent argument why term limits are so > >> >> >> desperately needed to clean house in Washington. > >> >> > > >> >> > Nonsense. First, Craig has already announced he's not running for > >> >> > re-election. > >> >> > >> >> But he's pulling a clinton or another typical democrat bait and switch > >> >> you > >> >> dumb-ass. > >> > > >> > No, moron, he's pulling a Bush: lie until the lie become untentable, > > then > >> > igorne it and come up with a new lie. > >> > >> Your partisan, hate-contrived opinion is duly noted you idiot. > > > > > > Your partisan, hate-contrived opinion is duly noted you idiot. > > > > > >> > >> >> Plus, I don't believe he's up for election next year. > >> > > >> > As with most things you "believe," you're wrong. His, you should > >> > excuse > >> > the > >> > expression, seat is up for grabs next year. > >> > >> Bring it. Idaho is as patriotically red as it gets! > > > > Thanks for conceding that Virginia, New Mexico and Nebraska will vote > > Where did I concede anything bitch? Answer: didn't and you know it which > makes you a scum liar, > > > Who knows, if patriots in Idaho REALLY comes out and vote, maybe the > > Republic candidate will be defeated there as well. > > So according to kimmey if they don't vote democrat, the election must have > been stolen! > > Come on bitch let's have it on the record right now. > > >> >> > And if that turns out to be a lie too he'll be taken out in > >> >> > the primary or the general election. > >> >> > > >> >> > Term limits are a terrible idea foisted by Repubic wingnuts when > >> >> > they > >> >> > don't > >> >> > think they can win elections any way else. > >> >> > >> >> That's an opinion which may not be held by a majority of Americans and > >> >> should be brought up by referendum since career politicians will only > >> >> continue sucking off the government tit while dishing out favors to > > their > >> >> constituents to keep them in power! > >> > > >> > You're a Republic wingnut all right. You learn nothing from history. > >> > Presidential term limits were foisted on us by the Republics after FDR > > won > >> > four elections. So who was the first president it affected? > > Eisenhower. > >> > Reagan might have won a third term as well (unless the Alzheimer's > > already > >> > affecting him in the White House became public). So all you're doing > >> > is > >> > peventing people from exercising their free choice because YOU don't > > like > >> > their choices. Notice how term limits was a Republic cry until1994, > > then > >> > disappeared. Now that it looks like the Republics have screwed > > themselves > >> > (as they screwed America) for years to come, suddenly up pops the > > Republc > >> > wingnuts bleating about "term limits." > >> > > >> > > >> >> Plus, if it's good enough for the president (not required by the > > original > >> >> framers, but later passed), then the same arguments can be applied to > > the > >> >> congress too. > >> > > >> > Good point. Let's repeal presidential term limits, a bad idea that > > never > >> > should have been enacted. Then we can re-elect Bill Clinton, who would > >> > win > >> > in a cakewalk. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> > The real term limit is in the > >> >> > voting booth. America had no trouble limiting the term of the > >> >> > Republic-controlled Congress last election, and we'll clip their > > wings > >> >> > even > >> >> > more next year, now that it's likely we'll pick up seats in > >> >> > Virginia, > >> >> > Nebraska and now New Mexico. > >> > > >> > Why do you hate Americans so much that you don't trust them in the > > voting > >> > booth? One way or another, Republic wingnuts prefer rigged elections. > >> > > > > > > > I accept your concession (by your non-response) that Republic wingnuts > > prefer rigged elections. > > Wrong, democrat have made crooked elections an art form. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dan Kimmel Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message news:xuWNi.2536$y21.1380@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net... > > "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message > news:TJGdndgm18E5iZXanZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@rcn.net... > > > > "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message > > news:LBSNi.884$R95.801@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com... > >> > >> "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message > >> news:QNGdnQdhj_JER5ranZ2dnUVZ_hzinZ2d@rcn.net... > >> > > >> > "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message > >> > news:_PPNi.6868$6p6.4303@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net... > >> >> > >> >> "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:TO6dnQR9mf32W5ranZ2dnUVZ_vvinZ2d@rcn.net... > >> >> > > >> >> > "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message > >> >> > news:WnLNi.416$LD2.315@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net... > >> >> >> Now this Craig idiot, guilty or not, did plead guilty, yet the > >> >> >> point > >> >> >> being > >> >> >> he is a fine example and excellent argument why term limits are so > >> >> >> desperately needed to clean house in Washington. > >> >> > > >> >> > Nonsense. First, Craig has already announced he's not running for > >> >> > re-election. > >> >> > >> >> But he's pulling a clinton or another typical democrat bait and switch > >> >> you > >> >> dumb-ass. > >> > > >> > No, moron, he's pulling a Bush: lie until the lie become untentable, > > then > >> > igorne it and come up with a new lie. > >> > >> Your partisan, hate-contrived opinion is duly noted you idiot. > > > > > > Your partisan, hate-contrived opinion is duly noted you idiot. > > > > > >> > >> >> Plus, I don't believe he's up for election next year. > >> > > >> > As with most things you "believe," you're wrong. His, you should > >> > excuse > >> > the > >> > expression, seat is up for grabs next year. > >> > >> Bring it. Idaho is as patriotically red as it gets! > > > > Thanks for conceding that Virginia, New Mexico and Nebraska will vote > > Where did I concede anything bitch? Answer: didn't and you know it which > makes you a scum liar, > > > Who knows, if patriots in Idaho REALLY comes out and vote, maybe the > > Republic candidate will be defeated there as well. > > So according to kimmey if they don't vote democrat, the election must have > been stolen! > > Come on bitch let's have it on the record right now. No, virgin, I'm noting that real patriots don't vote for Republic wingnuts. Some of the red states are in the most anti-American parts of the country -- where they hate the bedrock values of this great nation -- like the Deep South. The anti-American Republic party is shrinking to a fringe regional party. That's why so many incumbents are jumping ship now, before they're kicked out of office next year. > > >> >> > And if that turns out to be a lie too he'll be taken out in > >> >> > the primary or the general election. > >> >> > > >> >> > Term limits are a terrible idea foisted by Repubic wingnuts when > >> >> > they > >> >> > don't > >> >> > think they can win elections any way else. > >> >> > >> >> That's an opinion which may not be held by a majority of Americans and > >> >> should be brought up by referendum since career politicians will only > >> >> continue sucking off the government tit while dishing out favors to > > their > >> >> constituents to keep them in power! > >> > > >> > You're a Republic wingnut all right. You learn nothing from history. > >> > Presidential term limits were foisted on us by the Republics after FDR > > won > >> > four elections. So who was the first president it affected? > > Eisenhower. > >> > Reagan might have won a third term as well (unless the Alzheimer's > > already > >> > affecting him in the White House became public). So all you're doing > >> > is > >> > peventing people from exercising their free choice because YOU don't > > like > >> > their choices. Notice how term limits was a Republic cry until1994, > > then > >> > disappeared. Now that it looks like the Republics have screwed > > themselves > >> > (as they screwed America) for years to come, suddenly up pops the > > Republc > >> > wingnuts bleating about "term limits." > >> > > >> > > >> >> Plus, if it's good enough for the president (not required by the > > original > >> >> framers, but later passed), then the same arguments can be applied to > > the > >> >> congress too. > >> > > >> > Good point. Let's repeal presidential term limits, a bad idea that > > never > >> > should have been enacted. Then we can re-elect Bill Clinton, who would > >> > win > >> > in a cakewalk. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> > The real term limit is in the > >> >> > voting booth. America had no trouble limiting the term of the > >> >> > Republic-controlled Congress last election, and we'll clip their > > wings > >> >> > even > >> >> > more next year, now that it's likely we'll pick up seats in > >> >> > Virginia, > >> >> > Nebraska and now New Mexico. > >> > > >> > Why do you hate Americans so much that you don't trust them in the > > voting > >> > booth? One way or another, Republic wingnuts prefer rigged elections. > >> > > > > > > > I accept your concession (by your non-response) that Republic wingnuts > > prefer rigged elections. > > Wrong, democrat have made crooked elections an art form. That is indeed "wrong." It is the Republic party that has been caught repeatedly rigging elections. Bush couldn't win otherwise. That's a matter of historical record which only the dwindling number of America-hating wingnuts, such as yourself, foolsihly deny. If you hate this country so much why don't you leave and find some place more in keeping with your totalitarian views, like North Korea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MioMyo Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 <Click@Knicklas.com> wrote in message news:j3egg3povellsqf7i9u81rcfvqnormkt6n@4ax.com... > On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:01:55 GMT, "MioMyo" > <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote: > >>> What the fuck is wrong with you. >>> >>> Why any thinking person believes that replacing one >>> politician with another politician solves anything is >>> mind-boggling. >> >>I don't expect someone like you knickers to understand what it is to stand >>by your word, just as you have demonstrated time & again you don't >>understand the meaning of noble concepts like "honor," "dignity," and >>"integrity." Notwithstanding your drooling babbling lies below knickers, do go seek professional help for your deranged mental condition. > So YOU stand by YOUR conservative "principles" of > Slavery, Jim Crow, lynching, whipping, abuse, child > labor, "states rights", White Supremacy, hatred of > aliens, immigrants, the eldery, the poor, women, > children and using government to fuck the majority for > the good of a FEW? > > Was it "dignified" for a cabal of conservatives to take > out full page ads against Kennedy the month he was > assasinated, or ads calling for the impeachment of Earl > Warren because he (a LIBERAL) expanded Civil Rights, > Civil Liberties, and curtailed police power over > citizens? > > Was it "honorable" for your favorite drooling turnip to > LIE to congress, LIE to the American people about > selling our SWORN enemies weapon? > > Was it "honorable" for William Bennett to suggest that > if they could find a "question of character" to use > against Clinton in 1995, they might be able to help > themselves politically----thus ushering in the $4 > Million given CPAC (policy making arm of the GOP/RNC) > to conduct a smear against a president that was killing > them politically? > > Was it honorable for nearly every conservative to vote > against regulating Child labor, providing a "safety > net" for the elderly, expanding womens rights, workers > rights, or helping the homeless and hungry > > Just what the fuck DID conservatism EVER do for the > good of America---that wasn't first considered good for > the wealthiest and most powerful, you goddamn > uneducated moron. > >>> You're really describing an irrational argument that >>> wants YOUR politician to be "okay"----but get rid of >>> ALL those politicians YOU don't agree with-----IOW >>> "someone else's" >>> >> >>Thanks for explaining the liberal platform which is, "LIE," "CHEAT" and/or >>do the political thing because "The Ends Justify The Means"! > > Exactly what was the fundamental basis for the millions > spent by CPAC "finding" paula Jones, you stupid fuck? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MioMyo Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Miles arguing insults and personal attacks again because nothing else is left in his bag of dirty dem tricks! "Miles Long" <Miles@Home.net> wrote in message news:p-adnY9XevxQr5XanZ2dnUVZ_ozinZ2d@giganews.com... > MioMyo wrote: >> "Miles Long" <Miles@Home.net> wrote in message >> news:o_qdnS8tL4EcDpranZ2dnUVZ_vbinZ2d@giganews.com... >>> MioMyo wrote: >>>> Now this Craig idiot, guilty or not, did plead guilty, yet the point >>>> being he is a fine example and excellent argument why term limits are >>>> so desperately needed to clean house in Washington. Further, it's not >>>> whether or not Craig is gay- no one cares, nor it's not that his seat >>>> will change parties- this is unlikely. What it is, this fool has been >>>> in Washington so long, he wants to argue what "WAS" should have been- >>>> something he should have thought of when accepting his guilty status. >>> Actually, Zippy the Clown, it's the hypocrisy of an anti-gay stance >>> by a man who smokes cock. Do try and keep up... <laughing> >>> >>> Miles "Grasp of the Obvious" Long >> >> So according to your logic, all dems are out of the closet eh? or they >> don't have any dirty little secrets like $90,000 of illegal campaign cash >> in the freezer (but one example) they're hiding? >> >> Do go on telling us, though, how sanctimoniously clean you think your >> politicians are Wrong, while I'll continue arguing politicians should do >> the right thing and pass term limits in order to inject a bit of reality >> into our failing political system! >> > > What are you, six years old? <laughing> Although, even six year olds > display better reading skills and retention than pitiful you... > > Miles "Again, Over His/Her Head" Long > > >> >>>> In reality, Craig's lust >>>> to remain in power is his overwhelming concern, not his word, nor not >>>> that he's changed his word on this topic many times over- thereby >>>> Clintonized himself. And now Craig is both an embarrassment to >>>> himself -his family too and also to the institutions of congress. >>>> >>>> As if Larry Craig isn't a great example why term limits time has come, >>>> I believe if the majority of congress were exposed, there'd be >>>> overwhelming similar examples why this country would be better off if >>>> these decision makers were essentially a product of American society, >>>> not American society a product of career politicians. Just look at >>>> teddy Chappiquiddick kennedy as another fine example what career >>>> politicians morph into! >>>> >>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20071005/cm_uc_crsesx/op_394013 >>>> >>>> He didn't even flush the toilet. >>>> >>>> When he exited the bathroom stall, Senator Larry Craig never flushed >>>> the toilet. As my kids would say when they were little, that certainly >>>> suggests he didn't have to go. >>>> >>>> So what was he doing peering into someone else's stall for long enough >>>> that the officer was able to see he had blue eyes? Why did he wait for >>>> the adjoining stall to be empty when there were plenty of others >>>> available? What was he doing tapping his foot and waving his hand >>>> underneath the divider between the stalls? Certainly not going to the >>>> bathroom. >>>> >>>> Larry Craig must think the people of Idaho are fools. He certainly has >>>> no problem lying to them, and the rest of us. Maybe it's all those >>>> years in Congress that have left him thinking he can get away with >>>> anything he wants. >>>> >>>> After the media - Roll Call in particular - disclosed that Craig had >>>> pleaded guilty to cruising for sex in a men's room at the Minneapolis >>>> airport, the distinguished gentleman from Idaho announced he would >>>> resign as of September 30. >>>> >>>> Then he changed his mind and said he was going to try to withdraw his >>>> guilty plea and would hold off on resigning until the judge reached a >>>> decision on that issue. >>>> >>>> On Thursday, the judge reached a decision. To the surprise of no one >>>> who knows anything about criminal law, Judge Porter of the Minneapolis >>>> Superior Court concluded there was absolutely no basis for Senator >>>> Craig to withdraw his plea, no new evidence of anything, no showing >>>> that he'd been coerced by the prosecutors or police to plead guilty, >>>> nothing approaching the proof of a "manifest injustice" that would >>>> allow the plea to be withdrawn. >>>> >>>> So now Craig has changed his mind again. Now, he's decided that even >>>> though he lost in court and has as much chance of winning on appeal as >>>> I do of winning the lottery (I don't even buy tickets) he's going to >>>> serve out his term for the good of the people of Idaho. >>>> >>>> Liar, liar, pants on fire. >>>> >>>> The best thing he could do for the people of Idaho, and the rest of us, >>>> is spare us the embarrassment of what's to come next. Just what we need >>>> is an ethics hearing on the mechanics of bathroom pickups. >>>> >>>> >>>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MioMyo Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Translation: kimmey's definition of anti-American is anyone who doesn't agree with his political ideology. Thanks for conceding that mentally deranged point kimmey! "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message news:p4adnRAp5PgpN5XanZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@rcn.net... > > "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message > news:xuWNi.2536$y21.1380@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net... >> >> "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message >> news:TJGdndgm18E5iZXanZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@rcn.net... >> > >> > "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message >> > news:LBSNi.884$R95.801@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com... >> >> >> >> "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message >> >> news:QNGdnQdhj_JER5ranZ2dnUVZ_hzinZ2d@rcn.net... >> >> > >> >> > "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message >> >> > news:_PPNi.6868$6p6.4303@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net... >> >> >> >> >> >> "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:TO6dnQR9mf32W5ranZ2dnUVZ_vvinZ2d@rcn.net... >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message >> >> >> > news:WnLNi.416$LD2.315@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net... >> >> >> >> Now this Craig idiot, guilty or not, did plead guilty, yet the >> >> >> >> point >> >> >> >> being >> >> >> >> he is a fine example and excellent argument why term limits are > so >> >> >> >> desperately needed to clean house in Washington. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Nonsense. First, Craig has already announced he's not running >> >> >> > for >> >> >> > re-election. >> >> >> >> >> >> But he's pulling a clinton or another typical democrat bait and > switch >> >> >> you >> >> >> dumb-ass. >> >> > >> >> > No, moron, he's pulling a Bush: lie until the lie become untentable, >> > then >> >> > igorne it and come up with a new lie. >> >> >> >> Your partisan, hate-contrived opinion is duly noted you idiot. >> > >> > >> > Your partisan, hate-contrived opinion is duly noted you idiot. >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> Plus, I don't believe he's up for election next year. >> >> > >> >> > As with most things you "believe," you're wrong. His, you should >> >> > excuse >> >> > the >> >> > expression, seat is up for grabs next year. >> >> >> >> Bring it. Idaho is as patriotically red as it gets! >> > >> > Thanks for conceding that Virginia, New Mexico and Nebraska will vote >> >> Where did I concede anything bitch? Answer: didn't and you know it which >> makes you a scum liar, >> >> > Who knows, if patriots in Idaho REALLY comes out and vote, maybe the >> > Republic candidate will be defeated there as well. >> >> So according to kimmey if they don't vote democrat, the election must >> have >> been stolen! >> >> Come on bitch let's have it on the record right now. > > No, virgin, I'm noting that real patriots don't vote for Republic > wingnuts. > Some of the red states are in the most anti-American parts of the > country -- > where they hate the bedrock values of this great nation -- like the Deep > South. The anti-American Republic party is shrinking to a fringe regional > party. That's why so many incumbents are jumping ship now, before they're > kicked out of office next year. > > > >> >> >> >> > And if that turns out to be a lie too he'll be taken out in >> >> >> > the primary or the general election. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Term limits are a terrible idea foisted by Repubic wingnuts when >> >> >> > they >> >> >> > don't >> >> >> > think they can win elections any way else. >> >> >> >> >> >> That's an opinion which may not be held by a majority of Americans > and >> >> >> should be brought up by referendum since career politicians will > only >> >> >> continue sucking off the government tit while dishing out favors to >> > their >> >> >> constituents to keep them in power! >> >> > >> >> > You're a Republic wingnut all right. You learn nothing from >> >> > history. >> >> > Presidential term limits were foisted on us by the Republics after > FDR >> > won >> >> > four elections. So who was the first president it affected? >> > Eisenhower. >> >> > Reagan might have won a third term as well (unless the Alzheimer's >> > already >> >> > affecting him in the White House became public). So all you're >> >> > doing >> >> > is >> >> > peventing people from exercising their free choice because YOU don't >> > like >> >> > their choices. Notice how term limits was a Republic cry until1994, >> > then >> >> > disappeared. Now that it looks like the Republics have screwed >> > themselves >> >> > (as they screwed America) for years to come, suddenly up pops the >> > Republc >> >> > wingnuts bleating about "term limits." >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Plus, if it's good enough for the president (not required by the >> > original >> >> >> framers, but later passed), then the same arguments can be applied > to >> > the >> >> >> congress too. >> >> > >> >> > Good point. Let's repeal presidential term limits, a bad idea that >> > never >> >> > should have been enacted. Then we can re-elect Bill Clinton, who > would >> >> > win >> >> > in a cakewalk. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > The real term limit is in the >> >> >> > voting booth. America had no trouble limiting the term of the >> >> >> > Republic-controlled Congress last election, and we'll clip their >> > wings >> >> >> > even >> >> >> > more next year, now that it's likely we'll pick up seats in >> >> >> > Virginia, >> >> >> > Nebraska and now New Mexico. >> >> > >> >> > Why do you hate Americans so much that you don't trust them in the >> > voting >> >> > booth? One way or another, Republic wingnuts prefer rigged > elections. >> >> > >> > >> > >> > I accept your concession (by your non-response) that Republic wingnuts >> > prefer rigged elections. >> >> Wrong, democrat have made crooked elections an art form. > > > That is indeed "wrong." It is the Republic party that has been caught > repeatedly rigging elections. That doesn't explain why in the liberal bastion of San Francisco they find ballot boxes floating in the bay the day after an election, or in Chicago liberals win and they discover dead people have helped voted for them or in Milwaukee where democrats motorcade votes for cigarettes! > Bush couldn't win otherwise. That's a matter > of historical record which only the dwindling number of America-hating > wingnuts, such as yourself, foolsihly deny. > > If you hate this country so much why don't you leave and find some place > more in keeping with your totalitarian views, like North Korea? kimmey your litany of vile accusations of hate are always nothing more than opinion from someone who cannot back up such nonsense, Please keep the hate coming because it really helps expose what kind of dialog your party engages in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dan Kimmel Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message news:%C4Oi.31867$eY.27677@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net... > > "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message > news:p4adnRAp5PgpN5XanZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@rcn.net... > >> > I accept your concession (by your non-response) that Republic wingnuts > >> > prefer rigged elections. > >> > >> Wrong, democrat have made crooked elections an art form. > > > > > > That is indeed "wrong." It is the Republic party that has been caught > > repeatedly rigging elections. > > That doesn't explain why in the liberal bastion of San Francisco they find > ballot boxes floating in the bay the day after an election, or in Chicago > liberals win and they discover dead people have helped voted for them or in > Milwaukee where democrats motorcade votes for cigarettes! Sources for any of these? No, I didn't think you had them either. > > Bush couldn't win otherwise. That's a matter > > of historical record which only the dwindling number of America-hating > > wingnuts, such as yourself, foolsihly deny. > > > > If you hate this country so much why don't you leave and find some place > > more in keeping with your totalitarian views, like North Korea? > > kimmey your litany of vile accusations of hate are always nothing more than > opinion from someone who cannot back up such nonsense, Please keep the hate > coming because it really helps expose what kind of dialog your party engages > in. There you go again, projecting your own tactics onto others so that you can condemn them instead of confessing that it is what YOU do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MioMyo Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 I don't blame you for always in denial kimmey. Maybe someday you'll see the truth: http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2000/cyb20001111_wknd.asp http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a35afc35a3e.htm http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2000/12/10/loc_bronson_marlboros.html http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/005810.html Here's a bonus link for ya kimmey: http://sweetness-light.com/archive/more-democrat-vote-fraud-convictions "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message news:JrydnT-3aK8HmZTanZ2dnUVZ_qGknZ2d@rcn.net... > > "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message > news:%C4Oi.31867$eY.27677@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net... >> >> "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message >> news:p4adnRAp5PgpN5XanZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@rcn.net... >> >> > I accept your concession (by your non-response) that Republic > wingnuts >> >> > prefer rigged elections. >> >> >> >> Wrong, democrat have made crooked elections an art form. >> > >> > >> > That is indeed "wrong." It is the Republic party that has been caught >> > repeatedly rigging elections. >> >> That doesn't explain why in the liberal bastion of San Francisco they >> find >> ballot boxes floating in the bay the day after an election, or in Chicago >> liberals win and they discover dead people have helped voted for them or > in >> Milwaukee where democrats motorcade votes for cigarettes! > > Sources for any of these? No, I didn't think you had them either. > > >> > Bush couldn't win otherwise. That's a matter >> > of historical record which only the dwindling number of America-hating >> > wingnuts, such as yourself, foolsihly deny. >> > >> > If you hate this country so much why don't you leave and find some >> > place >> > more in keeping with your totalitarian views, like North Korea? >> >> kimmey your litany of vile accusations of hate are always nothing more > than >> opinion from someone who cannot back up such nonsense, Please keep the > hate >> coming because it really helps expose what kind of dialog your party > engages >> in. > > There you go again, projecting your own tactics onto others so that you > can > condemn them instead of confessing that it is what YOU do. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dan Kimmel Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message news:wU7Oi.7059$6p6.496@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net... > I don't blame you for always in denial kimmey. Maybe someday you'll see the > truth: > > http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2000/cyb20001111_wknd.asp > http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a35afc35a3e.htm > http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2000/12/10/loc_bronson_marlboros.html > http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/005810.html > > Here's a bonus link for ya kimmey: > > http://sweetness-light.com/archive/more-democrat-vote-fraud-convictions Do you have any credible sources besides rightwing blogs, columnists and websites? I mean, really, what sort of idiot cites ANYTHING on Free Republic and expects to be believed? > > > "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message > news:JrydnT-3aK8HmZTanZ2dnUVZ_qGknZ2d@rcn.net... > > > > "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message > > news:%C4Oi.31867$eY.27677@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net... > >> > >> "Dan Kimmel" <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote in message > >> news:p4adnRAp5PgpN5XanZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@rcn.net... > >> >> > I accept your concession (by your non-response) that Republic > > wingnuts > >> >> > prefer rigged elections. > >> >> > >> >> Wrong, democrat have made crooked elections an art form. > >> > > >> > > >> > That is indeed "wrong." It is the Republic party that has been caught > >> > repeatedly rigging elections. > >> > >> That doesn't explain why in the liberal bastion of San Francisco they > >> find > >> ballot boxes floating in the bay the day after an election, or in Chicago > >> liberals win and they discover dead people have helped voted for them or > > in > >> Milwaukee where democrats motorcade votes for cigarettes! > > > > Sources for any of these? No, I didn't think you had them either. > > > > > >> > Bush couldn't win otherwise. That's a matter > >> > of historical record which only the dwindling number of America-hating > >> > wingnuts, such as yourself, foolsihly deny. > >> > > >> > If you hate this country so much why don't you leave and find some > >> > place > >> > more in keeping with your totalitarian views, like North Korea? > >> > >> kimmey your litany of vile accusations of hate are always nothing more > > than > >> opinion from someone who cannot back up such nonsense, Please keep the > > hate > >> coming because it really helps expose what kind of dialog your party > > engages > >> in. > > > > There you go again, projecting your own tactics onto others so that you > > can > > condemn them instead of confessing that it is what YOU do. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theloneranger100@aol.com Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Term Limits! A blast from the past! Pugs have shut up about them for the past few years (as well as a "balanced budget"), but in light of the recent power-shift, you idiots will be dusting them off. What a useless party you belong to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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