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The alt.flame Who's Who - A user's guide to the flora, fauna, and

fuckheada of alt.flame. Copyright 1995© Castle Anthrax Productions.

All rights reserved. All factual errors at least gotten wrong with

feeling ( Stephen King, 1985). Last updated 12/8/07.

 

Submissions welcome but not necessarily used. Credit will be given to

anyone whose material is used, but will be made anonymous should the

submitter so desire.

 

This is a biased report. ( Harlan Ellison)

 

-> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk - "What a pathetic bunch of

driftwood these prozac-popping net.knobs are. Perhaps the shortest

war in the history of the Usenet. To summarize, we went and stated

something along the lines of: All right kids, saddle up and move out

because we are officially claiming this swamp as alt.flame territory.

The response was an unequivocally unified 'Take it! It's yours!'

"As Sun-tzu said 'The true art of war is to subdue the enemy without

fighting.' Well Sun, what if the enemy is subdued and doesn't want to

fight? What the hell is someone supposed to do when the opposing army

collectively throws like a girl and cries to mama? Keep the tanks

rolling I suppose." -- Joel A. Sutherland

 

-> alt.flamenet - "Sometime home of one crew or another of lamers and

wannabees who aspire to be the next alt.bigfoot but lack even the dim

flicker of sentience needed to qualify as fuckheads. At least a half

dozen such crews have come and gone over the years. The current batch,

at least, isn't making or threatening trouble in the more sedate parts

of Usenet -- then again, given their inability to rise above the level

of faggot this and nancy-boy that, the rest of Usenet probably needn't

fear them anyway." -- Lee Jackson Beauregard.

 

-> alt.nuke.the.USA - The Not Ready For alt.flame Players. A group of

nitwits and halfwits who specialize in nationality flames, a genre of

flaming which was old when Usenet was still netnews. . Besides the

obvious quality control problems, there's something very wrong when a

group of people dedicate themselves to a force that has been screwing

up life for all human beings since Day One -- nationalism. Pathetic.

Regulars can usually be found posting such time-honored (to put it

nicely) ripostes as "We saved your booties in WW2" and "Americans are a

bunch of sods", and talking about how vawstly superiah they are to

alt.flame.

 

-> alt.peeves - Only known newsgroup with which alt.flame has gone to

war that honestly held its own (in no small way because everyone on

a.f. except for Marek, Dave Williams, and myself ran in the other

direction when they showed they could put a noun and a verb together

worth a damn). Higher standards of literacy than a.f., but too normal

to be as much fun. The unquestioned Elite of the Net... except for the

577,948 other clubs and cliques who also consider themselves the Elite

of the Net. Individually and collectively, they bear an uncomfortably

close resemblance to the deads in Robert Silverberg's short story

"Born with the Dead"... not to mention the "elite" in Roberta Lannes's

short story "I Walk Alone".

 

-> alt.usenet.kooks - "Filtering out any article crossposted to

alt.usenet.kooks specifically is actually rather appealing, but I probably

won't do that either except in my own newsreader.

"I don't think it was always as ugly, although I think you have to

go back even before Boursy. But in the days of the net.legends FAQ,

it really wasn't quite as bad, and even around the time of Freedom

Knights, there was a lot of playing on both sides. I think Usenet would

probably still have been better off without the entire concept, but it didn't

used to be quite as obviously horrible. There was still some stuff that verged

on torturing the mentally ill, though." -- Russ Allbery

 

-> Asikainen, Ari. "Once every while a newbie comes along who genuinely

adds something to alt.flame. Ari gave us atrociously running rhymes.

Thanks, Ari." -- FJ.

"Finland is famous for nothing and Ari proves why. He is netscum pure

and simpkle. He mocks me and the news and envies my exclusives." -- Sabu424

"Lord Ari has been helping to bring forth not only Divine Truth and

Freedom to this planet but also NESARA for the past 25 yrs. He is both

a High level Wh-te Knight and a Commander Acting in the present

position of Senior Navigator/Tactical Officer on the Bridge aboard the

Starship New Jerusalem. He is also in training to sit in the Captain's

Chair!!" -- John F. Winston

 

-> aus.flame - "The Brits collect $200 from each player and advance

to Boardwalk for banishing this trash to their own insignificant rock

on the wrong side of the planet." -- Don Lloyd.

 

-> Bait, Flame - The second kind of denizen of alt.flame (the first, of

course, being "flamer"). As Andrew "Ducksworth" Hart put it:

 

...alt.flame is loaded to the gills with senseless tackling

dummies who think it's the greatest sort of compliment when you pay

any attention to them at all, whether you best them or not. They

eat it up.

 

Flamers and Flame Bait. It's a symbiotic relationship.

 

Most such folks are good practice for up and coming flamers (most of

whom wind up being flame bait themselves). There are a precious few,

however, (Michele Dall'Agata and Jeff Witty, f'r instance) who make a

tremendous contribution to the wit quotient of this forum... not

because they can write to save their miserable lives, of course, but

because they so cry out to be made fun of that they inspire truly

hilarious parodies. As such, however indirectly, one can be flame bait

and still be of great value; indeed, Messrs. Dall'Agata and Witty may

be considered true masters of the form (R.I.P). (Obvious pun deleted

in the interest of good taste.)

 

-> Boyd, Jeff A. - aka The 2-Belo, 2-Blows, Jeffery, 2-Blows-Chunks,

Geisha-Boy. "This idiot came out of nowhere in late 1996 posting from

Japan, following up every cascade in existence, until he was deemed

irritating enough to reply to. Quickly jumped on the Meow bandwagon,

hiding in alt.fan.karl-malden.nose." --flamefaq@feedME.

"Sad little dog (er...cat) who begs to be led around by a leash. Has had

about the same amount of free thought this decade as Ronald Reagan. Needs

someone to lead him and tell him what to do (also not unlike Ronald Reagan)."

--The Cypher

"The 2-Belo always has something to say; to anyone, about anything. Very

rarely will it make sense. Almost never will it be worth reading. On the odd

occasion, when the planets align, it may provide the odd chuckle. Otherwise,

I wish the 2-Belo did get fired. Would finally shut-up. Would at last leave

a cascade without molesting it. Would, well, be gone." -- Strawberry.

"A balding, vicious little bastard pissed off at the world due to his

enslavement in the land of the Rising Sun. Has made it his mission to punish

a dot f because he has to pay $75.00 US for a single fucking grape in Japan.

His one saving grace is his sense of humour. He _knows_ he's a short,

balding fuckhead. But the dwarf can flame." -- Scott Campbell.

"The guy from Japan" -- James Kirk.

"Skittish and awkward like a colt on coke, this autistic child prostitute

hides behind the sympathy generated by the gastrointestinal disease that

bears his name. Boyd's Disease, characterized by the projectile expulsion

of a curdlike, smelly discharge, forces him to leave the keyboard every ten

minutes for an enema. This explains his sporadic and halfhearted proof-

reading." -- Blub.

 

-> Brawl-Hall.com - aka Bawl Hall, The Bawlers. "Soldiers would regularly

have sex with Brawl Hallers as young as 13 in rundown shelters, in the bush

near the military camps and on the bare ground behind buildings usually just

after dark, a report from the ALT.FLAME Office of Internal Oversight (OIOS)

said Friday." -- Jason Gortician

"Sorry. The administrator has banned your IP address. To contact the

administrator click here" -- Brawl-Hall.com (<-- Of course, I don't usually

permit self-penned Who's Who entries, but this is (a) not intended as such

and (b) too good to resist. I am willing to bend even my own rules in the

promotion of a good hint. -- Ed.]

 

-> Campbell, Scott. "[2001] has been Scott's year, as far as I'm concerned. A

well educated and eloquent gentleman underneath, provoke his wrath at your

own risk. An elegant use of language spiced up with a myriad of original

derogatory novelties is the vessel for well constructed arguments and points,

with which he can devastate any opponent. Well done, Scott." - FJ

"Texan Scott treats alt.flame as a testing ground: a place where he can

iron out the chinks in his stand-up routine. The trouble is that he doesn't

appear to have a stand-up routine. Many forgive him because of the contagious

joy he exudes while abusing stupid people." -- Ari Asikainen.

 

-> Chason, Ray - aka The Master of Oblivion, Lee Jackson Beauregard, George

W. Bushwa. "A bot and a very dull one at that." -- Don Lloyd.

"Another oldbie who should retire. Living in a time warp from another

dimension, Beauregard believes himself to be a reincarnation of a fanatic

Confederate soldier with an Internet connection. Accuses anyone he

dislikes of being a 'Yankee'. Is known to post huge ASCII art of the

Confederate flag. Never posts more than two or three-line posts. His one

saving grace is his anti-racist stance; it is offset, however, with

extreme right-wing nationalism/regionalism." --flamefaq@feedME.

"He who greases the arse of squeeling pot bellied pigs." -- James Kirk.

"A teenage prankster taped a handwritten sign to his car that read 'Lose

waight (sic) fast with the cheap ass whiskie (sic) diet!!' Ray's been trying

to fix his dadgum busted bathroom scale ever dang since. Incoherent and

sloppy, he wavers in and out of consciousness while composing his responses

and more often than not retracts them in full when he awakens the next day."

-- Blub.

"Has fine cascading skills, which are -- unfortunately -- not complemented

by flaming skills. Must subconsciously know this, for he has taken it upon

himself to bore Wiseman to death. I'd forgive him, were it not for the

collateral damage to -my- boredom threshold." -- FJ.

"Fun fact of the day: This Southerner last posted an article which

didn't contain a reference to Roger Wiseman over ten months ago. At

this point Ray's tireless toiling only serves as a cautionary example

for newbies. Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be Chasons." -- Ari

Asikainen.

 

-> Christie, Jason Z. - aka Jason Gortician, High-C, and a host of other

nicks. "i'M WAITING FOR THE STALKER jASON z. cHRISTIE OF

ALT.ALIEN.VAMPIRE.FLONK.FLONK.FLONK TO CHIME IN. hE IS AFTER ALL A HALF

BREED WHO MARRIED A FAT BLACK PIG. sOMETIMES WHEN YOU MIX RACES YOU GET

A RETARD DEFECTIVE MISTAKE INSTEAD OF HYBRID VIGOR. tHAT jASON cHRISTIE

IS A GENETIC MISTAKE, THANK gOD IT CAN'T BREED!!!!! wHAT JOO GOT TO SAY

zEBRA cHRISTIE??? bWAAAAAAAA HAHA AHAAAA HA HA HA HA HA AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

HA HA HA HA AHA AHA AHAHAHAHAHAHAH HA HOOO HEE HEEE <SNORT>" -- marsrules

 

-> Ekran, Paal Ditlefsen - aka The Last Viking, The Large Vomit.

"Newbie supreme from Norway." -- Par Svensson. Joined alt.bigfoot in

the hopes of appearing less lame by comparison. It didn't work.

"LuteFisk!" -- Wotan.

 

-> Humphries, Dean. "Dean's raison d'etre is advancing the cause of 'snuh'. A

snuh cascade is a virtual grooming ritual in which the participants grunt

meaningless monosyllabic words at each other. Think about that for a moment.

1... 2... 3... OK, you can stop now. To be fair, grooming is needed when Dean

is around: His flame tactics consist of attaching himself to the roots of your

hair and laying eggs." -- Ari Asikainen

 

-> jet. "Refresh, you need more help than the people of Usenet are able to

give you. Go to the light! Go to the light! OMG, it's the Sun! Run away Jet!

Run fast....." -- spooge

"Years ago someone coined the idea of having an apprenticeship program in

alt.flame. Being the benevolent deity of flame that I am, I freely offered my

services. Jet is my padawan learner. I ask for so little in life; and boy,

do I get it". -- FJ

 

-> Kerro - aka Kerrens, John. "The Army can neither confirm nor deny the

existence of a lobotomized human minesweeper program in the 1950s." -- Blub.

"Self proclaimed 'flame-stud'. Posts while under the influence of

'drinkies' (Australians have a habit of making up diminutives for the

things they love and hold dear), consequently behaves like a complete

tit, sobers up, apologizes. Repeat." -- FJ.

"NOBODY tells him to knock anything off. He is a flame-stud; trust

him... And then he got back to his senses, such as they are, and

agreed to knock it off. Despite his legless antics and general

uselessness, John has an unshakeable belief in his own talents. I

guess someone has to." -- Ari Asikainen.

 

-> Knapp, Mike - aka Stu Copeland, Archie Leach. "The official alt.flame

webtv BuFfoOn" -- James Kirk.

"The only alt.flamer who really understands the halfcourt triangle

offense. Uses WebTV because ... well, god knows why. Reviled for dragging

college football dullards into alt.flame" -- Roger Williams.

"About as entertaining as a child's inflatable punching toy. You bop

it, it springs back, you bop it again and you forget it ever existed. It

slowly deflates in an unused corner, then one day you throw it away."

-- Blub.

 

-> Koput, James - aka Fester the Rat, Locust Abortion Technician,

Independent Worm Saloon, Peter Crippen, Filter, and a host of other

nicks. "Just plain sucks. About the most amusement you'll get out of

Koput consists of trying to figure out what drug he was one when he

selected his new nickname." -- Chris Viens.

"A complete nobody since his net.destruction at the hands of certain

unnamed British/Finnish operatives. He insists upon posting regardless."

-- Don Lloyd.

"The trickster of alt.flame, this garbage compactor has no flame

ability and therefore must netcop, forge, and otherwise circumvent the

system to save face. Claims to be a cartoonist from Canada. Has a

penchant for calling people 'pedophile' in non-flame groups in hopes

that they are booted and leave him alone in his self-inflicted misery."

--flamefaq@feedME.

"The brain of a microcephalic lemur, transplanted into the rotting

carcass of a common swine. Rolls around in the puke of dogs, masturbating

furiously." -- Blub.

"Spends most of his time either defending Keegan or whimpering about

his imagined net notoriety. Harmless really." -- FJ

Moreover, let us not forget that this is the fuckwheirt who claimed to

have fucked 1000 women in his lifetime.

 

-> Newbies, Clueless - Everyone who's been posting for less than three

months... and half the others. The most vital resource of alt.flame,

despite poor reputation; after all, imagine an oldbie-only moderated

flame group...

 

Blob: Fuck you, you racist bigot!

Carmelo: No, fuck you , Hassholeter!

ying: How about those Blue Jays, eh?

Keegan: you forged this article, didn't you? chuckle

Darcy: I did not!

Keegan: did

Darcy: Didn't!

Keegan: did

Darcy: Didn't!

Stain: Oh, Wendy! sigh

Wendy: Oh, Pookie! smewch

Dave Williams: 'Ere, stop that!

Stain: Fuckhead.

PNB: Fuckhead.

Dobbs: Fuckhead.

PNB: Fuckhead.

'73 Chevy Pickup: [ slaps Willy in the head ] Now you've done it!

Stain: Fuckhead.

Dobbs: Fuckhead.

Stain: Lutefisk.

 

Horrifying, isn't it? Only through more newbies will this group avoid

paralysis... if only via having fresh targets.

 

-> Saeger, Eric W. - aka The Phantom Menace. "Reinvented slurping as a

'style'. Best known for his fine polishing of Stain's lower intestine, and

bragging about collecting toys. The boy from New Hampshire's attempts to

reinvent himself as a bonafide flamer were quickly dashed when pictures of

his Motley Crue cover bands surfaced on the web, providing an ammunition

gap too big for even Saeger to slurp his way out of." -- Roger Williams.

 

-> The Stainless Steel Moviegoer - aka Jack Maxfield, Pookie, Stain, ANS,

Avoid normal situations. Yours truly. Software engineer and five-year

-plus veteran of alt.flame. Official "weenie" according to the increasingly

unavailable (heh, heh) alt.bigfoot FAQ. (Did I mention that I dig the

flicks?) Also screenwriter, actor, and filmmaker with an international cult

following; only two people agreed to read all five of the screenplays that

I offered on alt.flame, and, since the word "cult" implies a minority, you

can't get much more cult than that.

"Aka, Stoneless, Strapless, Squealy, Brainless, Jerk Minyield, Obloid

abnormal deformations, He Who Brays Like a Mindless Ass, Mr. Annoying, etc.

"The Stainless Steel Rectal Thermometer first arrived in alt.flame about

two years ago on a rail, covered with tar and feathers, when he was

driven forth from alt.tasteless.jokes. Taken into the alt.flame Mother

of Mercy Hospital with third degree burns covering most of his plush

posterior, Strain repaid the readers of alt.flame by contributing his

services as a clay pigeon and devising much of the insipid tripe

that still waters a.f. down to this day. See also Fuckhead Cascades,

Giggling Grabass Goofiness, and Annoying One-Line Non-Sequiturs." -- Andrew

"Naql" Hart.

Rebuttal: Actually, I was quite well liked on a.t.j. I got flamed

a lot for posting intensely bad puns, but since I was getting so bright

a spotlight, I issued a CFV on whether I should continue posting my

usual material there... which I won. 'Twas there that I acquired a

taste for flaming... and the rest, as they say, is history.

"Mistakes brevity for biting wit. Real name Jack Maxfield, has been

around a while and general likes referencing movie quotes. Is generally

not funny and is prone to net copping. (so say the bigfooters)."

-- Anonymous.

"A flamer wanna be. A FAQ meister wanna be. Flame him with either

style or crudeness, and he'll killfile you in a heartbeat. His FAQ and

Who's Who are barely related to the actual alt.flame readership." -- Wotan.

"Tactical leader of the alt.flame Special Forces group to Banish Overt

Reckless Ingenuity from New Groups or BORING." -- Don Lloyd.

"One of the ancients that actually still exists. Posts sporadically, doesn't

have a lot to say when he does post, and is generally as clueless as

his former compatriots imply. This is a nod to the old-timers who seem

to think they own the group. Also the author of the 'official' FAQ, or

who's who, or whatever the hell it is." --flamefaq@feedME.

"Old, old, old, old, old, senile, old, old, old, old, old man. Darwin would

NOT be pleased to see how unefficiently evolution works on alt.flame. Since

Viagra became in vogue, I've noticed more plonks , 'Read the FAQ', and

'(x newsgroup) sucks compared to alt.flame. Coincidence? I think not."

--The Cypher.

"This slumbering dotard occasionally belches out one line drivel in an

attempt to appear to be involved in af. It is, of course, a sham. Smilin'

Jack and his many nicknames. And his rebuttal! Thanks, Jack! Just what is

needed; a porcine, Roger Ebert look alike who manages to squeal the odd,

stale witticism in here between buckets of popcorn." -- Strawberry.

"The crustiest of the crusty. A throwback to a different era where

The Men Were Men.... and the sheep knew it. King of the bad pun. ie; Q.)

When did the Chinese guy know when it was time to visit the dentist? A.)

When his tooth-hurtee. [insert lone cricket sound effect] The trauma of

always being The Guy Who Was Picked Last as a kid, has caused Jack to hate

sports and spend way too much time in darkened theatres turning a whiter

shade of pale. All this bitterness and depression _has_ caused Stain to

become one of the better flamers in a dot f. He has a caustic, sarcastic

style that's capable of doing more damage to an opponent with a line or two,

than the usual long-winded, dry point-by-counter-point flame." -- Scott

Campbell.

"That fuckhead who quotes movies." -- James Kirk.

"The subject of the longest entry in the old, outmoded, FAQ which he (not

coincidentally) maintains." -- Raoul Xemblinosky.

"Have you ever been channel surfing really late at night, and come across

some musty black and white movie that drags on, and on, and on and wondered:

'Egads, what could POSSIBLY be more boring than THIS?'" -- Roger Williams.

"Is widely disliked, but never with any real intensity since he's so

easily ignored. His single brief moment of relative prominence happened

a long time ago, and is widely believed to have been dumb luck anyway. Has-

been, though it is the most common description of Stain, gives him too much

credit." -- Blub.

 

-> Smith, Adrian. "Ex Auntie, who went straight. On loan from alt.peeves,

Adrian has signed up as attendant in the alt.flame Texas Tom memorial museum.

Spends most of his time preventing a certain unnamed, fuckheaded scribbler of

scripts from applying obscene graffiti to the museum's various exhibits."

-- FJ.

"Big on quality control for others and reasonable discussion of serious

issues, Adrian nevertheless mingles with the commoners here on

alt.flame when he has an axe to grind. While there are rumors doing

the rounds that he once said something funny, possibly in 1998, no one

has been able to confirm such claims. Very British." -- Ari Asikainen.

 

-> Tanner, Kristian - aka Head Librarian. "Compulsive-obsessive weirdo

Finn who doggedly pursues his quarry (Koput, Bard) long past any

rational bounds and certainly far past any point of interest. Dull

is a compliment to this music-idiot." -- Don Lloyd.

"A once feared flamer who ranked among the upper crust in his day,

but has now been more or less reduced to sporadic little spasms of

faglames against Flaagg and Balloo." -- Raoul Xemblinosky.

 

-> Thorne, Tim - aka Doop, Dr. Doom, Dr. Dull. Member of HFW. "Relatively

new to the flame scene, and will probably always will be. Claims not to

have any ties to any flame organizations, but will constantly snuggle up

to HFW members whenever his ass is getting stomped. His repertiore consists

of not much more than homo lames and schoolyard insults. Fiercely anti-meow,

but can't even hold up to those lamers for more than a day or two."

--flamefaq@feedME.

"Fashions himself as a flame samurai. Unfortunately, is only capable of

one-line fag-lames, and monotonous retorts of 'IKYABWAI'. Once rumored to

be an alias of Gareth Slinn." -- Archie Leach.

"....... yawn . What, good ol' Timmy? Droning..... brk .....repetitious...

brrt, brrt ........robotic.......... chng ........obsessive......... grrkk

........dull........ chgachg a cunt?" -- Strawberry.

"That boring chap from England." -- James Kirk.

"Public urinals are treated better than this dimwit, and for good reason.

Tim is currently Menjy's catamite, offering his ass to Menjy in the form of

unwitting autoflames and various other blunders (see: "THREE FUCKING WEEKS!"

)" -- Roger Williams.

"Makes a living from the royalties generated by the use of his mistakes in

..sig files. At a penny per, he's doing pretty well." -- Blub.

 

-> van Kessel, Jeroen - aka FJ, Flame Jeroen, Lame Jeroen, Herts van Rental,

Lameroen, The 7th Fury. "Alt.flame's Salieri. This clogwit's sole claim to

fame has been his morbid obsession with all things 'Palmer'. Although he

maintains that Palmer is boring, he faithfully follows up to his every post.

Mistook himself for a flamer after boring Palmer off the net and took up

residence in alt.flame. Huge ego is complimented by lacking abilities. Seems

overjoyed when someone responds to him, yet runs for days at the first sign

of trouble." -- flamefaq@feedME.

"This cloghead's sole claim to fame is that he once fucked the ugliest woman

in Holland, and is the only person to have ever been seen pogo-dancing to

Mariah Carey. His screen name (which translates as "Jeremy from Kettle" is the

only real clue that he is utterly incapable of speaking any recognizable form

of English. Van Kessel should be seen, and not heard." -- Menjy

"One of the more consistently strong flamers. His work is almost always

sharp and well composed. Has a couple of the more memorable spanks." -- Scott

Campbell.

"Rumor has it he's almost incomprehensible in person (owing to his heavily

accented and alchohol-slurred speech) and this combined with his being dirt

poor and ugly makes him very uncomfortable with human interaction of any kind.

He has therefore moved himself far from the mainstream of human society,

thereby earning its eternal gratitude. Tolerated in alt.flame, and sometimes

even pitied." -- Blub.

 

-> ying - aka Marek, Bubbles. Real name Mark Brownell. Took up

chemistry to snicker "expand his mind". Also a produced playwright,

though I can't imagine why. Thinks of himself as some sort of

ladykiller, for which he should be forced to listen to Richard

Hell and the Voidoids' "Love Comes In Spurts" about 500 times

without a break.

"Aka, Ying the Yellow, Mawk Brownosell, Easy Mark, Mr. Bunny, and the

Dirty, Double-Dealing, Bet-Welcher, who plagiarized the hell of me, got

caught, and lied about it.

"Mark made his debut during the 'Mark Infestation of '93' as one of the

three Amigos: Mark, Mark, and Mark. Now known as 'Ying' in order to

circumvent the many killfiles in which he is recorded, Ying is a

deceptively amiable, glad-handing, backstabber. Don't trust him.

See also: Flambe' Lite." -- Andrew "Naql" Hart.

"Vainglorious Canuck who has an admitted sexual fetish for Jack

Maxfield." -- Don Lloyd.

"He who constantly reminds me of this joke.

Q: Did you use to blow bubbles when you were a kid??

A: yes

Q: Well he is back in town and wants your number."

-- James Kirk.

"Who?" -- Blub.

 

--

Afterword

--

 

French's Maxim: If you can't make the Who's Who, try for, "What the hell

was that?"

 

--

alt.flame Special Forces

"Above and beyond anything else, working as an artist means having a limitless

curiosity about human beings. I have no interest in films made by directors

who don't care about people." -- Shohei Imamura

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