The same old AIG argument, Christianity!!!

Hey MRIH;)

I wanna continue debating with you. I have alot to ask you about your ''perfect'' religion. Lets try to keep it clean this time. I aint gonna insult your religion,as usual.Will you find it in you to talk sensibly?

Since you obviously view my religion as evil, wrong etc. I wanna do a little comparing.Bible vs Quran. This will perhaps show you the wisdom of the Holy Quran.(I know I'm definately pushing my luck)

God Attributes in Bible and Quran

Does God Forget ?

Bible :

Why do you forget us forever, why do you so long forsake us? [Lam. 5:20]

How long O Lord ? will you forget me forever. [Psalm 13:1]

Quran :

(The angels say:"We descend not but by command of thy Lord: to Him belongeth what is before us and what is behind us, and what is between: and thy Lord never doth forget " [Quran 19:64]

Does God Sleep ?

Bible :

Awake, why do you sleep, O Lord? [Psalm. 4:23]

Then the Lord awaked as one out of sleep, and like a mighty man that shouts by reason of wine. [Psalm. 4:23]

Quran :

Allah! There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory). [Quran 2:255]

Can anyone in this life see God face to face ?!

Bible :

Jacob wrestled God who said to him, "Let me go; for the day is breaking" But Jacob said, "I will not let you go unless you bless me. And he said to him,"What is your name? And he said "Jacob" Then the Lord said, "Your name shall be no more called Jacob but Israel, for you have striven with God and with men, and have prevailed. Then Jacob asked him, "Tell me, I pray your name. But he said, "Why is it that youask my name?

And there he blessed him. So Jacob called the name of the place "Pen'el" saying: For I have seen God face to face." [Gen. 32:22]

Quran :

No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision: He is above all comprehension, yet is acquainted with all things. [Quran 6:103]

When Moses came to the place appointed by Us, and his Lord addressed him, He said: "O my Lord! show (Thyself) to me, that I may look upon thee." Allah said: "By no means canst thou see Me (direct); But look upon the mount; if it abide in its place, then shalt thou see Me." When his Lord manifested His glory on the Mount, He made it as dust. And Moses fell down in a swoon. When he recovered his senses he said: "Glory be to Thee! to Thee I turn in repentance, and I am the first to believe." [Quran 7:143]

Does God Need to Refresh ?!

Bible :

For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. [Exo. 31:17]

Quran :

We created the heavens and the earth and all between them in Six Days, nor did any sense of weariness touch Us. [Quran 50:38]

Does God Know everything happening ?

Bible :

And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden. And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where are thou? [Gen. 3:8,9]

Quran :

With Him are the keys of the unseen, the treasures that none knoweth but He. He knoweth whatever there is on the earth and in the sea. Not a leaf doth fall but with His knowledge: there is not a grain in the darkness (or depths) of the earth, nor anything fresh or dry (green or withered), but is (inscribed) in a record clear (to those who can read). [Quran 6:59]

Does God regret ?

Bible :

And the Lord was sorry that he made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart. [he said]: "For I am sorry that I have made them." [Gen 6:6,7]

Quran :

The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfilment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all. [Quran 6:115]

But no change wilt thou find in Allah's way (of dealing): no turning off wilt thou find in Allah's way (of dealing). [Quran 35:39]

Does God order people to commit sins ?

Bible :

When the Lord first spoke to Hose'a he said to him, "GO TAKE TO YOURSELF A WIFE OF HARLOTRY and have children of harlotry, for the land has committed great harlotry by forsaking the Lord." [Hos. 1:2]

God said to the children of Israel, "Every woman shall BORROW of her neighbour jewels of silver and gold, and remaint, and you shall put them upon your sons, and upon your daughters and you shall spoil the Egyptians. [Exo. 3:22]

So they borrowed of the Egyptians jewels and remaint: And the Lord gave the people favour in the sight of the Egyptians, so that they lent them such things as they required. And they spoiled the Egyptians. [Exo.12:35]

Quran :

When they do aught that is shameful, they say: "We found our fathers doing so"; and "Allah commanded us thus": Say: "Nay, Allah never commands what is shameful: do ye say of Allah what ye know not?" [Quran 7:28]

Say: "Nay, Allah never commands what is indecent: Do you say of Allah what you know not? " [Quran 7:28]

Is it Justice to accuse the children of their fathers' sins ?

Bible :

I am the Lord, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generations. [Deut. 5:7]

Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers. [isiah 14:21]

And the Lord said, "Go through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have you pity. Slay utterly old and young both maids and little children, and woman. [Ezek. 9:5]

Quran :

Every soul draws the meed of its acts on none but itself: no bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another. [Quran 6:164]

The Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) said to his army before going to a fight "Depart in the name of Allah, and by his help. And kill not any old man nor young boy nor child, nor woman, But be good doers for Allah loves those who do good."

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There are so many things in the bible that show that it is definately no longer a book from God,but a fabrication by man.I will post some more.

AIG, where were you? Rioting over a cartoon, I presume. ... as far as your questions go, answer them yourself, if your not to busy striking the neck of the infidel.

hahahahaha. same old MRIH, an insult to cover up how pathetic and feeble you are.The bible has become a book of porn and blasphemy against God Almighty. How the hell can you people actually still believe that it is a book from God???????? And it is us muslims who are brainwashed??????????

And no,I didnt strike the neck of an infidel,my energy has far better use than that.

ps: what happened to my welcome back hug darling?

Well I suppose if you ask a christian why they think the bible is the word of god, they will give you the same reasons and rationalisations as a muslim. HHHMMM could it possibly all be in the HUMAN perspective?

What a concept.

BTW LOVERLY to read you again AIG. And I must applaud your continued accuracy in your MRIH comentaries

All religious texts and so called "Holy" books are nothing more than the fabrications of men.

Only mankind is so stupid and arrogant as to convince itself that somehow a diety would favor part of its creation over another.

i just take joy in knowing that every day US soldiers are doing their duty to eradicate the muslims. my best friends brother has served 2 tours of duty and has 13 kills

American civilization is doomed...just look at this kid.

i just take joy in knowing that every day US soldiers are doing their duty to eradicate the muslims. my best friends

They sure ain't eradicating them very quickly. If we wanted to eradicate them WMD's would be a better option.

Anyone Can Cherry Pick Quotes From Both Books Of Fables To Show The Superiority Of One Book Over The Other.

Which is exactly why I don't answer her, hugo.

My question is, AIG, (by the way, I was fascinated with your comparisons) where is the evidence that the Muslim book is fact? I mean, what makes the Bible suddenly a "fabrication of man", and the Qu'ran still a holy book? How do we know that it's not fiction, also, like the Bible, as you claim? You could say that about both books.

--Ruse

My greatest beef with this is the stuff(everything) taken out of context to prove the superiority of one book over another. Ex. "And the Lord was sorry that he made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart. [he said]: "For I am sorry that I have made them." [Gen 6:6,7]"

Total bullshit. You know as well as I do that was right before Noah's Ark. So, he actually didn't say he was sorry he made them...try reading the Official GF interpritation of the bible... http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__P8.HTM He never said that he is sorry he made them. He wanted to start anew by killing them because they were evil. It shows that he is a smart God, for he just said fuck it, and hit the delete key.

oh really we're doomed? doesnt look like it to me

I guess that would depend on what you call doomed? By the world coming to an end? Well ,yes that is going to happen sooner or later. Or by death? Are we all going to die? Well ,yes . As far as Doomed ... I'm going with glass half full. We are fuct........ LOL

Now someone is going to come in with God or something........

Hey MRIH;)

 

I wanna continue debating with you. I have alot to ask you about your ''perfect'' religion. Lets try to keep it clean this time. I aint gonna insult your religion,as usual.Will you find it in you to talk sensibly?

 

Since you obviously view my religion as evil, wrong etc. I wanna do a little comparing.Bible vs Quran. This will perhaps show you the wisdom of the Holy Quran.(I know I'm definately pushing my luck)

 

God Attributes in Bible and Quran

 

Does God Forget ?

 

Bible :

 

Why do you forget us forever, why do you so long forsake us? [Lam. 5:20]

 

How long O Lord ? will you forget me forever. [Psalm 13:1]

 

Quran :

 

(The angels say:"We descend not but by command of thy Lord: to Him belongeth what is before us and what is behind us, and what is between: and thy Lord never doth forget " [Quran 19:64]

 

Does God Sleep ?

 

Bible :

 

Awake, why do you sleep, O Lord? [Psalm. 4:23]

 

Then the Lord awaked as one out of sleep, and like a mighty man that shouts by reason of wine. [Psalm. 4:23]

 

 

AIG you didn

Hey MRIH;)

 

God Attributes in Bible and Quran

 

Does God Forget ?

 

Bible :

 

Why do you forget us forever, why do you so long forsake us? [Lam. 5:20]

 

How long O Lord ? will you forget me forever. [Psalm 13:1]

 

Quran :

 

(The angels say:"We descend not but by command of thy Lord: to Him belongeth what is before us and what is behind us, and what is between: and thy Lord never doth forget " [Quran 19:64]

 

Does God Sleep ?

 

Bible :

 

Awake, why do you sleep, O Lord? [Psalm. 4:23]

 

Then the Lord awaked as one out of sleep, and like a mighty man that shouts by reason of wine. [Psalm. 4:23]

 

AIG you didn’t even take time to understand what the first two said in the bible. I didn’t even read the rest of this shit because that was a long winded post. And well I don’t read the bible that much anyway.

Does God forget: Thats someone asking God a question.

Does God Sleep: The second was a metaphor.

Same old AIG..

Can't you make a thread with another theme. Something else you now about. Maybe you could give us a rundown on bomb making!

All religious texts and so called "Holy" books are nothing more than the fabrications of men.

 

Only mankind is so stupid and arrogant as to convince itself that somehow a diety would favor part of its creation over another.

Actually you're completely wrong about that. Muhammad(pbuh) was sent as a guide to the whole of mankind. The Quran addresses the whole of mankind.It doesnt say, ''O christians/ O jews/O muslims'', it says ''O mankind,O you who believe''. It is up to us if we choose to believe.There is no compulsion in religion.

i just take joy in knowing that every day US soldiers are doing their duty to eradicate the muslims. my best friends brother has served 2 tours of duty and has 13 kills

His judgement is with God.

Awww isnt that the reaction you were hoping for?

ps: and americans are suprised that they are hated??? Look at this moron

Which is exactly why I don't answer her, hugo.

No actually, you just cant debate. You shout so much about muslims this Islam that but never can you bring proof to back your accusations. I can proove that the bible is no longer the book of God.And how stupid can people get and still claim it to be so??

Your loud voice doesn't show the depth of your knowledge,MRIH,an empty vessel makes more noise than a full one,darling.

Dont you just hate me being back.he he

My question is, AIG, (by the way, I was fascinated with your comparisons) where is the evidence that the Muslim book is fact? I mean, what makes the Bible suddenly a "fabrication of man", and the Qu'ran still a holy book? How do we know that it's not fiction, also, like the Bible, as you claim? You could say that about both books.

 

 

--Ruse

Good question. The evidence is in your belief, to be honest. And have you seen the Quran being changed into several hundred books? And no one on earth can produce anything similar to it(if they dont copy it word for word that is).There is so much wisdom in it and it is a guide to mankind. If everyone followed and practiced what it says,this world would be a better place. It doesnt condone Slavery,in fact slavery was stopped when it was send down.The killing of female infants was stopped when it was sent down.

It doesnt have disgusting,pornographic language that only man could produce.

I mean,look at the bible, God is protrayed as a weakling/perv.

And God talks directly to us in the Quran,not through men(paul,john blah blah).

There is not one place in the bible that it says:''Jesus said''.And Jesus never claimed to be God at all in the bible,which hugely confuses me.

So Ruso,maybe this isnt enough for you,but it is certainly enough for me.

The Quran has changed many people's lives and mine and still is.Just look at the number of Americans who converted to Islam in the past few years. We are not brainwashed. It makes far more sense for the people who believe that God condoned slavery and harlotry while being Gracious at the same time,to be called brainwashed lunatics.

AIG you didn’t even take time to understand what the first two said in the bible. I didn’t even read the rest of this shit because that was a long winded post. And well I don’t read the bible that much anyway.

 

Does God forget: Thats someone asking God a question.

Does God Sleep: The second was a metaphor.

 

Same old AIG..

 

Can't you make a thread with another theme. Something else you now about. Maybe you could give us a rundown on bomb making!

Ofcourse,my bad,the bible is certainly nothing but a metaphor!

Unlike MRIH, Iam not gonna put some commentary to go with the verses I produce just to try and get people to think like me. I'll just produce the verses,let the people read and decide for themselves.

YOUR BIBLE-''the book of god''

[Gen. 19:30]

Lot went up out of Zo'ar and dwelt in the hills with his two daughters.

And the first-born said to the younger, "Our father is old, and there is

not a man on earth to come to us after the manner of all the earth.

COME LET US MAKE OUR FATHER DRINK WINE AND WE WILL LIE WITH HIM, that we

may preserve offspring through our father. So they made their father drink

wine that night; AND THE FIRST BORN WENT IN AND LAY WITH HER FATHER; HE

DID NOT KNOW WHEN SHE LAY DOWN OR WHEN SHE AROSE.

And on the next day, the first-born said to the younger "Behold, I lay

last night with my father, let us make him drink wine tonight also; then

you go in and lie with him that we may preserve offspring through our

father.

So they made their father drink wine that night also, and the younger

arose, and LAY WITH HIM; and he did not know when she lay down or when

she arose. THUS BOTH THE DAUGHTERS OF LOT WERE WITH CHILD BY THEIR FATHER.

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[2.Sam. 13:1] Amnon the son of David fell in love with his sister Ta'-mar.

"Amnon was so tormented that he made himself ill because of his sister

Ta'-mar; for she was a virgin, and it seemed impossible to Amnon to do

anything to her.

Amnon had a friend who said to him, "Lie down on your bed and pretend to

be ill, and when [your father] the king comes to see you, you say to him:

let my sister Ta'-mar come and give bread to eat from her hand. David sent

Ta'-mar to her brother and ordered her to feed her brother by her hand.

Ta'-mar took the cakes she had made, and brought them into the chamber to

Amnon, but when she brought them near him to eat, he took hold of her,

and said to her, "Come, lie with me, my sister", she said, "No my brother,

do not force me." But he would not listen to her; and being stronger than

she, he forced her, and lay with her."

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GF Welcomes Back AIG(pbuh), it's unofficial Ambassador of The Religion of Peace!

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AIG - Mohammed says "you better be wearing your bhurkha or I'll kill you!"

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Gee...Islamic suicide bombers believing in virgins for themselves... Yes, the truth is very insulting to the Muslims of the world. Damn truth, always gets in the way.

Mankind will only be free when all religion and superstitious belief has been eradicated from the world. - CES