Guest Wide Eyed in Wonder Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 Jesus said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father but by me." (John 14:6) There is not a part of this verse that isn't under attack today. The portion I want to focus on, today, is "the truth." We hear the word "fundamentalist" today as if it were a dirty word. It is applied to the terrorists, even though in most of the world they are known as "extremists." How can one be both fundamental and extreme? So, there must be an agenda behind the use of the term fundamentalist. Do you want to know what that agenda is? Christian fundamentalists believe God's word is true. God meant what He said there. However, liberals of the day don't want to believe anything is absolute. So, they must try to discredit any who disagree (even though in doing so they proclaim their own view of pluralism absolute). Their end goal is the pluralist society of Babylon, which Daniel and others stood against. The problem? God is a jealous God, and Jesus is the way (see another post on this later) to the Father. So, pluralism ends in many that miss the truth and salvation. And, that is the real tragedy, here. Ken Clifton christiansuperhero.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 On 19 Apr 2007, Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote: >Jesus said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes >to the Father but by me." (John 14:6) There is not a part of this >verse that isn't under attack today. >The portion I want to focus on, today, is "the truth." >We hear the word "fundamentalist" today as if it were a dirty word. >It is applied to the terrorists, even though in most of the world they >are known as "extremists." How can one be both fundamental and >extreme? So, there must be an agenda behind the use of the term >fundamentalist. Do you want to know what that agenda is? >Christian fundamentalists believe God's word is true. God meant what >He said there. However, liberals of the day don't want to believe >anything is absolute. So, they must try to discredit any who disagree >(even though in doing so they proclaim their own view of pluralism >absolute). Their end goal is the pluralist society of Babylon, which >Daniel and others stood against. The problem? God is a jealous God, >and Jesus is the way (see another post on this later) to the Father. >So, pluralism ends in many that miss the truth and salvation. >And, that is the real tragedy, here. >Ken Clifton >christiansuperhero.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Not that Voltaire might've actually said this, or written this, but one of my favorite (in this case, undocumented) quotations is loosely attributed to the world-famous philosopher Voltaire: "Monsieur l'abbe, je deteste ce que vous ecrivez, My sire of the abbot, I detest that which you write, mais je donnerai ma vie pour que vous puissiez but I would give my life for that you have the puissance continuer a ecrire." to continue to write. --alleged by Norbert Guterman, editor of 'A Book of French Quotations', to be from an original Voltaire letter dated 6 Feurier 1771, to M. le Riche. This quote is unconfirmed. Whether the witty French philosopher ever wrote this or not, it is an excellent point, that religious, scientific, intellectual, philosophical, political, etc. disagreement promotes discussion and understanding--among those who practice freedom of religion and freedom of speech responsibly in the public forum. As it stands today, Atheists strictly control the curriculum of America's public schools, the courts, and generally control the government. But "fundamentalists" like you are no better, since you want your own particular view on Christianity to be imposed as the law of the land. You leave no room for other Christians, or Atheists, or Jews, or Muslims, or Hindus, or Buddhists, etc., who don't necessarily share (all of) your particular religious beliefs, or convictions, interpretations and misinterpretations, much less agree on how you're defining terms in the first place. That's why we have the Universal Ten Commandments & Golden Rule, which is the cornerstone of civilization. Civilized humans tend to agree with these paramount Commandments, whereas uncivilized humans tend to be uncivilized, and hold His Sermons in contempt. Ex-Republican, Daniel Joseph Min http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQA/AwUBRiggBZljD7YrHM/nEQINRACcCgycGHTQmaXPH0WtI1WNK7KxxLgAnjxq WymrZLF/oRakYuDPqwTokaQk =4+x5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybacaT Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Fundamentalist shouldn't be a dirty word - it's what the person is practising the fundamentals of. If one is following the teachings of a man who taught about love, forgiveness, world peace, self sacrifice, looking after the poor, sick, needy, and lived a peaceful life as an example...then I'd welcome anyone who wanted to live in that way. The world would be a much better place with fundamentalists like this! If however, as we're seeing today - there are people who fundamentally follow the teachings of a man who believed in solving problems with violence, with killing those who spoke against him, with the enslavement of women and children, the subjugation of women, and who himself participated in killing just to set an example. Then...we start to see fundamentalists of this belief system making the world a less friendly, more hostile and dangerous place. Fundamentalism can be a great thing - just comes down to what the inspiration is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nomen Nescio Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 On 19 Apr 2007, Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote: >Jesus said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes >to the Father but by me." (John 14:6) There is not a part of this >verse that isn't under attack today. >The portion I want to focus on, today, is "the truth." >We hear the word "fundamentalist" today as if it were a dirty word. >It is applied to the terrorists, even though in most of the world they >are known as "extremists." How can one be both fundamental and >extreme? So, there must be an agenda behind the use of the term >fundamentalist. Do you want to know what that agenda is? >Christian fundamentalists believe God's word is true. God meant what >He said there. However, liberals of the day don't want to believe >anything is absolute. So, they must try to discredit any who disagree >(even though in doing so they proclaim their own view of pluralism >absolute). Their end goal is the pluralist society of Babylon, which >Daniel and others stood against. The problem? God is a jealous God, >and Jesus is the way (see another post on this later) to the Father. >So, pluralism ends in many that miss the truth and salvation. >And, that is the real tragedy, here. >Ken Clifton >christiansuperhero.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Not that Voltaire might've actually said this, or written this, but one of my favorite (in this case, undocumented) quotations is loosely attributed to the world-famous philosopher Voltaire: "Monsieur l'abbe, je deteste ce que vous ecrivez, My sire of the abbot, I detest that which you write, mais je donnerai ma vie pour que vous puissiez but I would give my life for that you have the puissance continuer a ecrire." to continue to write. --alleged by Norbert Guterman, editor of 'A Book of French Quotations', to be from an original Voltaire letter dated 6 Feurier 1771, to M. le Riche. This quote is unconfirmed. Whether the witty French philosopher ever wrote this or not, it is an excellent point, that religious, scientific, intellectual, philosophical, political, etc. disagreement promotes discussion and understanding--among those who practice freedom of religion and freedom of speech responsibly in the public forum. As it stands today, Atheists strictly control the curriculum of America's public schools, the courts, and generally control the government. But "fundamentalists" like you are no better, since you want your own particular view on Christianity to be imposed as the law of the land. You leave no room for other Christians, or Atheists, or Jews, or Muslims, or Hindus, or Buddhists, etc., who don't necessarily share (all of) your particular religious beliefs, or convictions, interpretations and misinterpretations, much less agree on how you're defining terms in the first place. That's why we have the Universal Ten Commandments & Golden Rule, which is the cornerstone of civilization. Civilized humans tend to agree with these paramount Commandments, whereas uncivilized humans tend to be uncivilized, and hold His Sermons in contempt. Ex-Republican, Daniel Joseph Min http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQA/AwUBRigz45ljD7YrHM/nEQJTxwCfRX5vXdMu4CPiznCHFELmQB96imAAn1Kq hYZX1KFMTJwQEIy7M9Uw7mLR =pxUF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ghamph Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1176989706.387758.60450@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > Jesus said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes > to the Father but by me." (John 14:6) There is not a part of this > verse that isn't under attack today. > > The portion I want to focus on, today, is "the truth." > > We hear the word "fundamentalist" today as if it were a dirty word. > It is applied to the terrorists, even though in most of the world they > are known as "extremists." How can one be both fundamental and > extreme? So, there must be an agenda behind the use of the term > fundamentalist. Do you want to know what that agenda is? > > Christian fundamentalists believe God's word is true. God meant what > He said there. However, liberals of the day don't want to believe > anything is absolute. So, they must try to discredit any who disagree > (even though in doing so they proclaim their own view of pluralism > absolute). Their end goal is the pluralist society of Babylon, which > Daniel and others stood against. The problem? God is a jealous God, > and Jesus is the way (see another post on this later) to the Father. > So, pluralism ends in many that miss the truth and salvation. > > And, that is the real tragedy, here. > > Ken Clifton > christiansuperhero.com > Let's focus on the real problem. ("No one comes to the Father but by me".) This accretion by the author has excluded all of the billions that are of other faiths. Other faiths have similar exclusions that forever cause death and destruction. The Christians are no better than the Mohammedans when they call others infidels. Have a nice argumentative forever. Jamffer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ZenIsWhen Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1176989706.387758.60450@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > Jesus said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes > to the Father but by me." (John 14:6) There is not a part of this > verse that isn't under attack today. OK .... just because your imaginary hero, in a work of fiction which supports your unsupportable religion, states it ... we're supposed to accept it as fact? Go awy, and buy a vrain somewhere! > > The portion I want to focus on, today, is "the truth." Why? You have totally ignored it most of your life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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