Guest M_P Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 http://www.projo.com/news/bobkerr/kerr_column_26_03-26-08_PU9GHR5_v12.33c2222.html Bob Kerr Wednesday, March 26, 2008 Marijuana can get silly. Sure, it can do damage when it becomes a constant alternative to reality. But in too many ways it has become a slapstick prop, causing people in uniform to run around and around until they fall down. Or run into each other. And that's without smoking it. The funniest movie about marijuana is Reefer Madness. It features an actor who sucks madly on a joint, then turns into a crazed killer. That image is decades old and comically out of touch. But it is one that some people cling to even today in trying to give marijuana a place in the war on drugs that is totally unjustified. The best thing about this product of the earth is that it makes people who feel lousy feel better. People with AIDS, multiple sclerosis, PTSD, all kinds of painful conditions, find relief in the smoke. There is no official medical explanation for why puffing makes the pain go away. It just works better than manufactured pharmaceuticals. In some enlightened corners, including Rhode Island, lawmakers have made medical marijuana legally available. It improves lives. It also gets people sent to the slammer. The very plant that brings relief for some can bring prison time for others. It is part of the schizoid place marijuana continues to hold. People in jump suits still jump from police vans in pursuit of it. And people in private corners still fire it up to get through the day. It is way past time for some common sense, for some balance between the brain-twisting devil weed and reality. Marijuana has drawn resources and consumed court time and cell space to an extent far beyond its threat to public well-being. People have suffered ridiculous penalties for possession of something with less mind- altering potential than a six-pack of beer. Which is why it is so good to see one of the brightest minds in Congress offer some sanity. Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts said in a statement yesterday that he will introduce legislation to remove federal penalties for the personal use of marijuana. "For highly trained federal law enforcement agents to spend time prosecuting people for smoking marijuana is a diversion of scarce resources from their job of protecting public safety," said Frank. Hallelujah! Frank is saying what a lot of people, including some police officers, have been saying for a long time -- to make a federal case out of smoking marijuana is "wholly disproportionate to the activity involved." "Criminalizing choices that adults make because we think they are unwise, when the choices involved have no effect on the rights of others, is not appropriate in a free society," said Frank. It sure isn't. To impose archaic drug laws on recreational, at-home marijuana smokers is a waste of all kinds of things, including time and money and gas for whatever urban assault vehicles are used to reach the designated drug den. One of the best things about what Frank is proposing is that it would lift the ridiculous threat of arrest from those who take their marijuana for pain. For even though Rhode Island and other places have had the compassion and good sense to approve the use of medical marijuana, federal laws do not allow for it. A multiple sclerosis sufferer could, for example, buy marijuana under the state law, then walk down the street and get busted by the feds. It's not likely to happen, but it is an example of what a silly muddle marijuana is in. Barney Frank is trying to make it a little less silly. © 2008, Published by The Providence Journal Co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WellDone Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 M_P <m_p@rocketmail.com> wrote in <28e343d5-ad00-486d-aaa7-3b619aa29228@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>: <snip> >Which is why it is so good to see one of the brightest minds in >Congress offer some sanity. >Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts said in a statement yesterday that >he will introduce legislation to remove federal penalties for the >personal use of marijuana. <snip> Barney Frank is NOT "one of the brightest minds in Congress". The man is a twit. Simply reprehensible. -- ): "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think" (: Off the monitor, through the modem, nothing but net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ChrisT Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:52:31 -0700 (PDT), M_P <m_p@rocketmail.com> wrote: >http://www.projo.com/news/bobkerr/kerr_column_26_03-26-08_PU9GHR5_v12.33c2222.html > >Bob Kerr >Wednesday, March 26, 2008 > >Marijuana can get silly. Sure, it can do damage when it becomes a >constant alternative to reality. But in too many ways it has become a >slapstick prop, causing people in uniform to run around and around >until they fall down. Or run into each other. And that's without >smoking it. > >The funniest movie about marijuana is Reefer Madness. It features an >actor who sucks madly on a joint, then turns into a crazed killer. > >That image is decades old and comically out of touch. But it is one >that some people cling to even today in trying to give marijuana a >place in the war on drugs that is totally unjustified. > >The best thing about this product of the earth is that it makes people >who feel lousy feel better. People with AIDS, multiple sclerosis, >PTSD, all kinds of painful conditions, find relief in the smoke. > >There is no official medical explanation for why puffing makes the >pain go away. It just works better than manufactured pharmaceuticals. >In some enlightened corners, including Rhode Island, lawmakers have >made medical marijuana legally available. It improves lives. > >It also gets people sent to the slammer. The very plant that brings >relief for some can bring prison time for others. > >It is part of the schizoid place marijuana continues to hold. People >in jump suits still jump from police vans in pursuit of it. And people >in private corners still fire it up to get through the day. > >It is way past time for some common sense, for some balance between >the brain-twisting devil weed and reality. Marijuana has drawn >resources and consumed court time and cell space to an extent far >beyond its threat to public well-being. People have suffered >ridiculous penalties for possession of something with less mind- >altering potential than a six-pack of beer. > >Which is why it is so good to see one of the brightest minds in >Congress offer some sanity. > >Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts said in a statement yesterday that >he will introduce legislation to remove federal penalties for the >personal use of marijuana. > >"For highly trained federal law enforcement agents to spend time >prosecuting people for smoking marijuana is a diversion of scarce >resources from their job of protecting public safety," said Frank. > >Hallelujah! > >Frank is saying what a lot of people, including some police officers, >have been saying for a long time -- to make a federal case out of >smoking marijuana is "wholly disproportionate to the activity >involved." > >"Criminalizing choices that adults make because we think they are >unwise, when the choices involved have no effect on the rights of >others, is not appropriate in a free society," said Frank. > >It sure isn't. To impose archaic drug laws on recreational, at-home >marijuana smokers is a waste of all kinds of things, including time >and money and gas for whatever urban assault vehicles are used to >reach the designated drug den. > >One of the best things about what Frank is proposing is that it would >lift the ridiculous threat of arrest from those who take their >marijuana for pain. For even though Rhode Island and other places have >had the compassion and good sense to approve the use of medical >marijuana, federal laws do not allow for it. > >A multiple sclerosis sufferer could, for example, buy marijuana under >the state law, then walk down the street and get busted by the feds. > >It's not likely to happen, but it is an example of what a silly muddle >marijuana is in. > >Barney Frank is trying to make it a little less silly. > >© 2008, Published by The Providence Journal Co. What is really stupid is allowing doctors to get you hooked on morphine and other narcotics but can't prescribe a harmless herb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bobbie sellers Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 WellDone wrote: > M_P <m_p@rocketmail.com> wrote in > <28e343d5-ad00-486d-aaa7-3b619aa29228@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>: > <snip> >> Which is why it is so good to see one of the brightest minds in >> Congress offer some sanity. >> Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts said in a statement yesterday that >> he will introduce legislation to remove federal penalties for the >> personal use of marijuana. > <snip> > Barney Frank is NOT "one of the brightest minds in Congress". > The man is a twit. Simply reprehensible. Whether or not Barney Frank is admirable depends not on your POV but on how well he looks after the interests of his constituency. His electorate probably is largely in agreement with his aims. And removing cannabis from the status of illegal drug is something that would save immense amounts of money for the American taxpayer which is good thing in this period of severe inflationary pressures. <http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/fed-data/costs/costs05.htm> > -- > ): "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think" > (: Off the monitor, through the modem, nothing but net ___________________ It's time to correct the mistake: truth:the Anti-drugwar <http://www.briancbennett.com> Cops say legalize drugs--find out why: <http://www.leap.cc> Stoners are people too: <http://www.cannabisconsumers.org> ___________________ later bliss -- C O C O A Powered... (at california dot com) -- bobbie sellers - a retired nurse in San Francisco "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of cocoa that the thoughts acquire speed, the thighs acquire girth, the girth become a warning. It is by theobromine alone I set my mind in motion." --from Someone else's Dune spoof ripped to my taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest M_P Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 On Mar 26, 10:37 pm, bobbie sellers <bl...@california.com> wrote: > WellDone wrote: > > M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote in > > <28e343d5-ad00-486d-aaa7-3b619aa29...@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>: > > <snip> > >> Which is why it is so good to see one of the brightest minds in > >> Congress offer some sanity. > >> Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts said in a statement yesterday that > >> he will introduce legislation to remove federal penalties for the > >> personal use of marijuana. > > <snip> > > Barney Frank is NOT "one of the brightest minds in Congress". > > The man is a twit. Simply reprehensible. > > Whether or not Barney Frank is admirable depends not on your > POV but on how well he looks after the interests of his constituency. > His electorate probably is largely in agreement with his aims. > > And removing cannabis from the status of illegal drug is something that > would save immense amounts of money for the American > taxpayer which is good thing in this period of severe inflationary > pressures. > > <http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/fed-data/costs/costs05.htm> You don't have to like Barney Frank (I don't) to realize he's on the right side of this issue. Marijuana criminalization, like Prohibition before it, does more harm than good and should be ended as Prohibition wisely was. > > -- > > ): "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think" > > (: Off the monitor, through the modem, nothing but net > > ___________________ > It's time to correct the mistake: > truth:the Anti-drugwar > <http://www.briancbennett.com> > > Cops say legalize drugs--find out why: > <http://www.leap.cc> > > Stoners are people too: > <http://www.cannabisconsumers.org> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OGExtremeOne Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 AND YOU LOVE THAT QUEER DON'T YOU LIBERAL FAG M_P wrote: > On Mar 26, 10:37 pm, bobbie sellers <bl...@california.com> wrote: >> WellDone wrote: >>> M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote in >>> <28e343d5-ad00-486d-aaa7-3b619aa29...@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>: >>> <snip> >>>> Which is why it is so good to see one of the brightest minds in >>>> Congress offer some sanity. >>>> Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts said in a statement yesterday that >>>> he will introduce legislation to remove federal penalties for the >>>> personal use of marijuana. >>> <snip> >>> Barney Frank is NOT "one of the brightest minds in Congress". >>> The man is a twit. Simply reprehensible. >> Whether or not Barney Frank is admirable depends not on your >> POV but on how well he looks after the interests of his constituency. >> His electorate probably is largely in agreement with his aims. >> >> And removing cannabis from the status of illegal drug is something that >> would save immense amounts of money for the American >> taxpayer which is good thing in this period of severe inflationary >> pressures. >> >> <http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/fed-data/costs/costs05.htm> > > You don't have to like Barney Frank (I don't) to realize he's on the > right side of this issue. Marijuana criminalization, like Prohibition > before it, does more harm than good and should be ended as Prohibition > wisely was. > >>> -- >>> ): "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think" >>> (: Off the monitor, through the modem, nothing but net >> ___________________ >> It's time to correct the mistake: >> truth:the Anti-drugwar >> <http://www.briancbennett.com> >> >> Cops say legalize drugs--find out why: >> <http://www.leap.cc> >> >> Stoners are people too: >> <http://www.cannabisconsumers.org> -- THE MORE YOU CAN GET COLOREDS TO READ, THE SOONER THEY FIND OUT THAT THEY ARE JUST CONSPICUOUSLY EXPLOITED COLOREDS WHICH ARE BLACK STUPID NIGGERS . ( JUMPIN BEAN EXTREME ) OGExtremeOne@dizum.com What Is a " black stupid Nigger " ? By Dre Z.(dogg) Turdd http://hnn.us/articles/1221.html OGExtremeOne@dizum.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bobbie sellers Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 OGExtremeOne wrote: > AND YOU LOVE THAT QUEER DON'T YOU LIBERAL FAG Commie pinko to you sweetie, with a loaded ..38 S&W handy for intruders into my personal space and a filter added for your foul mouth. I am glad your disgusting remarks were trimmed by the setup of the reply engine on Thunderbird. Reading the crap once was bad enough. >> M_P wrote: >> On Mar 26, 10:37 pm, bobbie sellers <bl...@california.com> wrote: >>> WellDone wrote: >>>> M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote in >>>> <28e343d5-ad00-486d-aaa7-3b619aa29...@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>: >>>> <snip> >>>>> Which is why it is so good to see one of the brightest minds in >>>>> Congress offer some sanity. >>>>> Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts said in a statement yesterday that >>>>> he will introduce legislation to remove federal penalties for the >>>>> personal use of marijuana. >>>> <snip> >>>> Barney Frank is NOT "one of the brightest minds in Congress". >>>> The man is a twit. Simply reprehensible. >>> Whether or not Barney Frank is admirable depends not on your >>> POV but on how well he looks after the interests of his constituency. >>> His electorate probably is largely in agreement with his aims. >>> >>> And removing cannabis from the status of illegal drug is >>> something that would save immense amounts of money for the American >>> taxpayer which is good thing in this period of severe inflationary >>> pressures. >>> >>> <http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/fed-data/costs/costs05.htm> >> >> You don't have to like Barney Frank (I don't) to realize he's on the >> right side of this issue. Marijuana criminalization, like Prohibition >> before it, does more harm than good and should be ended as Prohibition >> wisely was. Amen! >> >>>> -- >>>> ): "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think" >>>> (: Off the monitor, through the modem, nothing but net >>> ___________________ >>> It's time to correct the mistake: >>> truth:the Anti-drugwar >>> <http://www.briancbennett.com> >>> >>> Cops say legalize drugs--find out why: >>> <http://www.leap.cc> >>> >>> Stoners are people too: >>> <http://www.cannabisconsumers.org> >>> ___________________ Kill-filing a bigot is a healing act. later bliss -- C O C O A Powered... (at california dot com) -- bobbie sellers - a retired nurse in San Francisco "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of cocoa that the thoughts acquire speed, the thighs acquire girth, the girth become a warning. It is by theobromine alone I set my mind in motion." --from Someone else's Dune spoof ripped to my taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fran Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 On Mar 28, 3:40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest M_P Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 On Mar 27, 2:35 pm, Fran <Fran.B...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 28, 3:40 am, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote: > > On Mar 26, 10:37 pm, bobbie sellers <bl...@california.com> wrote: > > > WellDone wrote: > > > > M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote in > > > > <28e343d5-ad00-486d-aaa7-3b619aa29...@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>: > > > > <snip> > > > >> Which is why it is so good to see one of the brightest minds in > > > >> Congress offer some sanity. > > > >> Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts said in a statement yesterday that > > > >> he will introduce legislation to remove federal penalties for the > > > >> personal use of marijuana. > > > > <snip> > > > > > Barney Frank is NOT "one of the brightest minds in Congress". > > > > The man is a twit. Simply reprehensible. > > > > Whether or not Barney Frank is admirable depends not on your > > > POV but on how well he looks after the interests of his constituency. > > > His electorate probably is largely in agreement with his aims. > > > > > > And removing cannabis from the status of illegal drug is something that > > > would save immense amounts of money for the American > > > taxpayer which is good thing in this period of severe inflationary > > > pressures. > > > > > > <http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/fed-data/costs/costs05.htm> > > > You don't have to like Barney Frank (I don't) to realize he's on the > > right side of this issue. Marijuana criminalization, like Prohibition > > before it, does more harm than good and should be ended as Prohibition > > wisely was. > > Yes, although I'd go further, and allow controlled supply through > regulated suppliers, in ways that are similar to the regulatory > rubrics associated with the supply of alcohol. There should be proper > labelling based on analysis of actual samples of a batch, proper > weights etc. > > People ought to be able to grow at home too. Amen to all that! It's the only way to take the profits out of criminal hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OGExtremeOne Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 BUT YOU FAGS DON'T LIKE GUNS REMEMBER THEY KILL PEOPLE bobbie sellers wrote: > OGExtremeOne wrote: >> AND YOU LOVE THAT QUEER DON'T YOU LIBERAL FAG > > Commie pinko to you sweetie, with a loaded > .38 S&W handy for intruders into my personal space > and a filter added for your foul mouth. > > I am glad your disgusting remarks were trimmed > by the setup of the reply engine on Thunderbird. Reading > the crap once was bad enough. > >>> M_P wrote: >>> On Mar 26, 10:37 pm, bobbie sellers <bl...@california.com> wrote: >>>> WellDone wrote: >>>>> M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote in >>>>> <28e343d5-ad00-486d-aaa7-3b619aa29...@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>: >>>>> <snip> >>>>>> Which is why it is so good to see one of the brightest minds in >>>>>> Congress offer some sanity. >>>>>> Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts said in a statement yesterday that >>>>>> he will introduce legislation to remove federal penalties for the >>>>>> personal use of marijuana. >>>>> <snip> >>>>> Barney Frank is NOT "one of the brightest minds in Congress". >>>>> The man is a twit. Simply reprehensible. > >>>> Whether or not Barney Frank is admirable depends not on your >>>> POV but on how well he looks after the interests of his constituency. >>>> His electorate probably is largely in agreement with his aims. >>>> >>>> And removing cannabis from the status of illegal drug is >>>> something that would save immense amounts of money for the American >>>> taxpayer which is good thing in this period of severe inflationary >>>> pressures. >>>> >>>> <http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/fed-data/costs/costs05.htm> >>> You don't have to like Barney Frank (I don't) to realize he's on the >>> right side of this issue. Marijuana criminalization, like Prohibition >>> before it, does more harm than good and should be ended as Prohibition >>> wisely was. > > Amen! >>>>> -- >>>>> ): "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think" >>>>> (: Off the monitor, through the modem, nothing but net >>>> ___________________ >>>> It's time to correct the mistake: >>>> truth:the Anti-drugwar >>>> <http://www.briancbennett.com> >>>> >>>> Cops say legalize drugs--find out why: >>>> <http://www.leap.cc> >>>> >>>> Stoners are people too: >>>> <http://www.cannabisconsumers.org> >>>> ___________________ > > Kill-filing a bigot is a healing act. > > > later > bliss -- C O C O A Powered... (at california dot com) > > -- > bobbie sellers - a retired nurse in San Francisco > > "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. > It is by the beans of cocoa that the thoughts acquire speed, > the thighs acquire girth, the girth become a warning. > It is by theobromine alone I set my mind in motion." > --from Someone else's Dune spoof ripped to my taste. > -- THE MORE YOU CAN GET COLOREDS TO READ, THE SOONER THEY FIND OUT THAT THEY ARE JUST CONSPICUOUSLY EXPLOITED COLOREDS WHICH ARE BLACK STUPID NIGGERS . ( JUMPIN BEAN EXTREME ) OGExtremeOne@dizum.com What Is a " black stupid Nigger " ? By Dre Z.(dogg) Turdd http://hnn.us/articles/1221.html OGExtremeOne@dizum.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest M_P Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 On Mar 27, 12:49 pm, OGExtremeOne <kingextreme1h...@yahoo.com> wrote: > AND YOU LOVE THAT QUEER DON'T YOU LIBERAL FAG Which part of "I don't" didn't you understand, inbred retard? > M_P wrote: > > On Mar 26, 10:37 pm, bobbie sellers <bl...@california.com> wrote: > >> WellDone wrote: > >>> M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote in > >>> <28e343d5-ad00-486d-aaa7-3b619aa29...@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>: > >>> <snip> > >>>> Which is why it is so good to see one of the brightest minds in > >>>> Congress offer some sanity. > >>>> Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts said in a statement yesterday that > >>>> he will introduce legislation to remove federal penalties for the > >>>> personal use of marijuana. > >>> <snip> > >>> Barney Frank is NOT "one of the brightest minds in Congress". > >>> The man is a twit. Simply reprehensible. > >> Whether or not Barney Frank is admirable depends not on your > >> POV but on how well he looks after the interests of his constituency. > >> His electorate probably is largely in agreement with his aims. > > >> And removing cannabis from the status of illegal drug is something that > >> would save immense amounts of money for the American > >> taxpayer which is good thing in this period of severe inflationary > >> pressures. > > >> <http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/fed-data/costs/costs05.htm> > > > You don't have to like Barney Frank (I don't) to realize he's on the > > right side of this issue. Marijuana criminalization, like Prohibition > > before it, does more harm than good and should be ended as Prohibition > > wisely was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SLAVE SHIP CAPTAIN Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 THIS NIGGER LOVES TO FORGE JUST OVER LOOK HIM. HE CAN'T WIN AN ARGUMENT SO HE FORGES. M_P wrote: > On Mar 27, 12:49 pm, OGExtremeOne <kingextreme1h...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> AND YOU LOVE THAT QUEER DON'T YOU LIBERAL FAG > > Which part of "I don't" didn't you understand, inbred retard? > >> M_P wrote: >>> On Mar 26, 10:37 pm, bobbie sellers <bl...@california.com> wrote: >>>> WellDone wrote: >>>>> M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote in >>>>> <28e343d5-ad00-486d-aaa7-3b619aa29...@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>: >>>>> <snip> >>>>>> Which is why it is so good to see one of the brightest minds in >>>>>> Congress offer some sanity. >>>>>> Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts said in a statement yesterday that >>>>>> he will introduce legislation to remove federal penalties for the >>>>>> personal use of marijuana. >>>>> <snip> >>>>> Barney Frank is NOT "one of the brightest minds in Congress". >>>>> The man is a twit. Simply reprehensible. >>>> Whether or not Barney Frank is admirable depends not on your >>>> POV but on how well he looks after the interests of his constituency. >>>> His electorate probably is largely in agreement with his aims. >>>> And removing cannabis from the status of illegal drug is something that >>>> would save immense amounts of money for the American >>>> taxpayer which is good thing in this period of severe inflationary >>>> pressures. >>>> <http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/fed-data/costs/costs05.htm> >>> You don't have to like Barney Frank (I don't) to realize he's on the >>> right side of this issue. Marijuana criminalization, like Prohibition >>> before it, does more harm than good and should be ended as Prohibition >>> wisely was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fran Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 On Mar 28, 6:59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest M_P Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 On Mar 26, 10:30 pm, ChrisT <microm...@verizon.net> wrote: > On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:52:31 -0700 (PDT), M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> > wrote: > >"Criminalizing choices that adults make because we think they are > >unwise, when the choices involved have no effect on the rights of > >others, is not appropriate in a free society," said Frank. > > >It sure isn't. To impose archaic drug laws on recreational, at-home > >marijuana smokers is a waste of all kinds of things, including time > >and money and gas for whatever urban assault vehicles are used to > >reach the designated drug den. > > >One of the best things about what Frank is proposing is that it would > >lift the ridiculous threat of arrest from those who take their > >marijuana for pain. For even though Rhode Island and other places have > >had the compassion and good sense to approve the use of medical > >marijuana, federal laws do not allow for it. > > >A multiple sclerosis sufferer could, for example, buy marijuana under > >the state law, then walk down the street and get busted by the feds. > > >It's not likely to happen, but it is an example of what a silly muddle > >marijuana is in. > > >Barney Frank is trying to make it a little less silly. > > What is really stupid is allowing doctors to get you hooked on > morphine and other narcotics but can't prescribe a harmless herb. Well, marijuana isn't "harmless" (hardly anything is), and narcotics don't always lead to addiction ... but if doctors can prescribe narcotics they should be allowed to prescribe marijuana, without a doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest M_P Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 On Mar 27, 3:15 pm, SLAVE SHIP CAPTAIN <c...@liberia.org> top-posted like the inbred retard she is: > THIS NIGGER LOVES TO FORGE JUST OVER LOOK HIM. HE CAN'T WIN AN > ARGUMENT SO HE FORGES. What do you think I "forged," Gomer? > M_P wrote: > > On Mar 27, 12:49 pm, OGExtremeOne <kingextreme1h...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> AND YOU LOVE THAT QUEER DON'T YOU LIBERAL FAG > > > Which part of "I don't" didn't you understand, inbred retard? > > >> M_P wrote: > >>> On Mar 26, 10:37 pm, bobbie sellers <bl...@california.com> wrote: > >>>> WellDone wrote: > >>>>> M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote in > >>>>> <28e343d5-ad00-486d-aaa7-3b619aa29...@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>: > >>>>> <snip> > >>>>>> Which is why it is so good to see one of the brightest minds in > >>>>>> Congress offer some sanity. > >>>>>> Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts said in a statement yesterday that > >>>>>> he will introduce legislation to remove federal penalties for the > >>>>>> personal use of marijuana. > >>>>> <snip> > >>>>> Barney Frank is NOT "one of the brightest minds in Congress". > >>>>> The man is a twit. Simply reprehensible. > >>>> Whether or not Barney Frank is admirable depends not on your > >>>> POV but on how well he looks after the interests of his constituency. > >>>> His electorate probably is largely in agreement with his aims. > >>>> And removing cannabis from the status of illegal drug is something that > >>>> would save immense amounts of money for the American > >>>> taxpayer which is good thing in this period of severe inflationary > >>>> pressures. > >>>> <http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/fed-data/costs/costs05.htm> > >>> You don't have to like Barney Frank (I don't) to realize he's on the > >>> right side of this issue. Marijuana criminalization, like Prohibition > >>> before it, does more harm than good and should be ended as Prohibition > >>> wisely was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pete nospam Zakel Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 In article <d9d37d24-cfdc-42a2-a3bb-06959d983eff@m71g2000hse.googlegroups.com> M_P <m_p@rocketmail.com> writes: >Well, marijuana isn't "harmless" (hardly anything is), and narcotics >don't always lead to addiction ... but if doctors can prescribe >narcotics they should be allowed to prescribe marijuana, without a >doubt. Marijuana is far less harmful than alcohol or tobacco, or even aspirin. There are quite a few things one can purchase OTC that are far more harmful than cannabis. There's no reason cannabis purchases should require a prescription. -Pete Zakel (phz@seeheader.nospam) "There's a fine line between courage and foolishness. Too bad its not a fence." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Graeme Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 On Mar 27, 3:15 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 26, 10:30 pm, ChrisT <microm...@verizon.net> wrote: > > On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:52:31 -0700 (PDT), M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> > > wrote: > > >"Criminalizing choices that adults make because we think they are > > >unwise, when the choices involved have no effect on the rights of > > >others, is not appropriate in a free society," said Frank. > > > >It sure isn't. To impose archaic drug laws on recreational, at-home > > >marijuana smokers is a waste of all kinds of things, including time > > >and money and gas for whatever urban assault vehicles are used to > > >reach the designated drug den. > > > >One of the best things about what Frank is proposing is that it would > > >lift the ridiculous threat of arrest from those who take their > > >marijuana for pain. For even though Rhode Island and other places have > > >had the compassion and good sense to approve the use of medical > > >marijuana, federal laws do not allow for it. > > > >A multiple sclerosis sufferer could, for example, buy marijuana under > > >the state law, then walk down the street and get busted by the feds. > > > >It's not likely to happen, but it is an example of what a silly muddle > > >marijuana is in. > > > >Barney Frank is trying to make it a little less silly. > > > What is really stupid is allowing doctors to get you hooked on > > morphine and other narcotics but can't prescribe a harmless herb. > > Well, marijuana isn't "harmless" (hardly anything is), and narcotics > don't always lead to addiction ... but if doctors can prescribe > narcotics they should be allowed to prescribe marijuana, without a > doubt. A prescription shouldn't be needed for either marijuana or narcotics. What a person puts into his or her own body is no one else's business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fran Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 On Mar 28, 9:52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest * US * Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:26:26 -0700 (PDT), Fran <Fran.Beta@gmail.com> wrote: >On Mar 28, 9:52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest M_P Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 On Mar 27, 5:12 pm, px...@cadence.com (Pete nospam Zakel) wrote: > In article <d9d37d24-cfdc-42a2-a3bb-06959d983...@m71g2000hse.googlegroups.com> M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> writes: > > >Well, marijuana isn't "harmless" (hardly anything is), and narcotics > >don't always lead to addiction ... but if doctors can prescribe > >narcotics they should be allowed to prescribe marijuana, without a > >doubt. > > Marijuana is far less harmful than alcohol or tobacco, or even aspirin. There > are quite a few things one can purchase OTC that are far more harmful than > cannabis. > > There's no reason cannabis purchases should require a prescription. I agree with everything you've said here (none of which contradicts what I said). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest M_P Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 On Mar 27, 5:52 pm, John Graeme <jdgra...@my-deja.com> wrote: > On Mar 27, 3:15 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote: > > On Mar 26, 10:30 pm, ChrisT <microm...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:52:31 -0700 (PDT), M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >"Criminalizing choices that adults make because we think they are > > > >unwise, when the choices involved have no effect on the rights of > > > >others, is not appropriate in a free society," said Frank. > > > > > > > >It sure isn't. To impose archaic drug laws on recreational, at-home > > > >marijuana smokers is a waste of all kinds of things, including time > > > >and money and gas for whatever urban assault vehicles are used to > > > >reach the designated drug den. > > > > > > > >One of the best things about what Frank is proposing is that it would > > > >lift the ridiculous threat of arrest from those who take their > > > >marijuana for pain. For even though Rhode Island and other places have > > > >had the compassion and good sense to approve the use of medical > > > >marijuana, federal laws do not allow for it. > > > > > > > >A multiple sclerosis sufferer could, for example, buy marijuana under > > > >the state law, then walk down the street and get busted by the feds. > > > > > > > >It's not likely to happen, but it is an example of what a silly muddle > > > >marijuana is in. > > > > > > > >Barney Frank is trying to make it a little less silly. > > > > What is really stupid is allowing doctors to get you hooked on > > > morphine and other narcotics but can't prescribe a harmless herb. > > > Well, marijuana isn't "harmless" (hardly anything is), and narcotics > > don't always lead to addiction ... but if doctors can prescribe > > narcotics they should be allowed to prescribe marijuana, without a > > doubt. > > A prescription shouldn't be needed for either marijuana or narcotics. > What a person puts into his or her own body is no one else's business. I agree with everything you've said here (none of which contradicts what I said). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest M_P Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 On Mar 27, 8:26 pm, Fran <Fran.B...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 28, 9:52 am, John Graeme <jdgra...@my-deja.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 27, 3:15 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Mar 26, 10:30 pm, ChrisT <microm...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:52:31 -0700 (PDT), M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > >"Criminalizing choices that adults make because we think they are > > > > >unwise, when the choices involved have no effect on the rights of > > > > >others, is not appropriate in a free society," said Frank. > > > > > >It sure isn't. To impose archaic drug laws on recreational, at-home > > > > >marijuana smokers is a waste of all kinds of things, including time > > > > >and money and gas for whatever urban assault vehicles are used to > > > > >reach the designated drug den. > > > > > >One of the best things about what Frank is proposing is that it would > > > > >lift the ridiculous threat of arrest from those who take their > > > > >marijuana for pain. For even though Rhode Island and other places have > > > > >had the compassion and good sense to approve the use of medical > > > > >marijuana, federal laws do not allow for it. > > > > > >A multiple sclerosis sufferer could, for example, buy marijuana under > > > > >the state law, then walk down the street and get busted by the feds. > > > > > >It's not likely to happen, but it is an example of what a silly muddle > > > > >marijuana is in. > > > > > >Barney Frank is trying to make it a little less silly. > > > > > What is really stupid is allowing doctors to get you hooked on > > > > morphine and other narcotics but can't prescribe a harmless herb. > > > > Well, marijuana isn't "harmless" (hardly anything is), and narcotics > > > don't always lead to addiction ... but if doctors can prescribe > > > narcotics they should be allowed to prescribe marijuana, without a > > > doubt. > > > A prescription shouldn't be needed for either marijuana or narcotics. > > What a person puts into his or her own body is no one else's business > > Unless of course, use of the substance has implications for the safe > operation of equipment in a workplace, the roads etc. Equally, it > should not be a defence to a crime or a tort that one's judgement was > affected by a substance that one freely used, unless one can argue > that the harms resulting could not have been foreseen prior to use. All of which also applies to many over-the-counter medications ... as well as the legal recreational drug alcohol. What policy do you support for all the aforementioned substances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Graeme Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 On Mar 27, 8:26 pm, Fran <Fran.B...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 28, 9:52 am, John Graeme <jdgra...@my-deja.com> wrote: > > On Mar 27, 3:15 pm, M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mar 26, 10:30 pm, ChrisT <microm...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:52:31 -0700 (PDT), M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > >"Criminalizing choices that adults make because we think they are > > > > >unwise, when the choices involved have no effect on the rights of > > > > >others, is not appropriate in a free society," said Frank. > > > > > >It sure isn't. To impose archaic drug laws on recreational, at-home > > > > >marijuana smokers is a waste of all kinds of things, including time > > > > >and money and gas for whatever urban assault vehicles are used to > > > > >reach the designated drug den. > > > > > >One of the best things about what Frank is proposing is that it would > > > > >lift the ridiculous threat of arrest from those who take their > > > > >marijuana for pain. For even though Rhode Island and other places have > > > > >had the compassion and good sense to approve the use of medical > > > > >marijuana, federal laws do not allow for it. > > > > > >A multiple sclerosis sufferer could, for example, buy marijuana under > > > > >the state law, then walk down the street and get busted by the feds. > > > > > >It's not likely to happen, but it is an example of what a silly muddle > > > > >marijuana is in. > > > > > >Barney Frank is trying to make it a little less silly. > > > > > What is really stupid is allowing doctors to get you hooked on > > > > morphine and other narcotics but can't prescribe a harmless herb. > > > > Well, marijuana isn't "harmless" (hardly anything is), and narcotics > > > don't always lead to addiction ... but if doctors can prescribe > > > narcotics they should be allowed to prescribe marijuana, without a > > > doubt. > > > A prescription shouldn't be needed for either marijuana or narcotics. > > What a person puts into his or her own body is no one else's business > > Unless of course, use of the substance has implications for the safe > operation of equipment in a workplace, the roads etc. Equally, it > should not be a defence to a crime or a tort that one's judgement was > affected by a substance that one freely used, unless one can argue > that the harms resulting could not have been foreseen prior to use. What do you mean by "implications"? Many activities are not appropriate for the workplace, when driving, etc. That says nothing about whether they are appropriate in other situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest POW Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 In article <0f0fbaf7-50c5-4229-b945-afec56801992@d62g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, M_P <m_p@rocketmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 27, 5:12 pm, px...@cadence.com (Pete nospam Zakel) wrote: > > In article > > <d9d37d24-cfdc-42a2-a3bb-06959d983...@m71g2000hse.googlegroups.com> M_P > > <m...@rocketmail.com> writes: > > > > >Well, marijuana isn't "harmless" (hardly anything is), and narcotics > > >don't always lead to addiction ... but if doctors can prescribe > > >narcotics they should be allowed to prescribe marijuana, without a > > >doubt. > > > > Marijuana is far less harmful than alcohol or tobacco, or even aspirin. > > There > > are quite a few things one can purchase OTC that are far more harmful than > > cannabis. > > > > There's no reason cannabis purchases should require a prescription. > > I agree with everything you've said here (none of which contradicts > what I said). One thing about Pot that threatens the establishment. Too many who have "inhaled" start to think outside the box. The control freaks would rather dull you down. like alcohol does. -- when you believe the only tool you have is a hammer. problems tend to look like nails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest M_P Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 On Mar 28, 1:15 pm, POW <georgewsp...@humboldt1.com> wrote: > In article > <0f0fbaf7-50c5-4229-b945-afec56801...@d62g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, > M_P <m...@rocketmail.com> wrote: > > On Mar 27, 5:12 pm, px...@cadence.com (Pete nospam Zakel) wrote: > > > In article > > > <d9d37d24-cfdc-42a2-a3bb-06959d983...@m71g2000hse.googlegroups.com> M_P > > > <m...@rocketmail.com> writes: > > > >Well, marijuana isn't "harmless" (hardly anything is), and narcotics > > > >don't always lead to addiction ... but if doctors can prescribe > > > >narcotics they should be allowed to prescribe marijuana, without a > > > >doubt. > > > > Marijuana is far less harmful than alcohol or tobacco, or even aspirin. > > > There > > > are quite a few things one can purchase OTC that are far more harmful than > > > cannabis. > > > > There's no reason cannabis purchases should require a prescription. > > > I agree with everything you've said here (none of which contradicts > > what I said). > > One thing about Pot that threatens the establishment. Too many who have > "inhaled" start to think outside the box. > The control freaks would rather dull you down. like alcohol does. Is it the pot itself ... or the discovery that the Reefer Madness the establishment peddles is a pack of lies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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