Times...Hush

Here we go, I never tried to make it seem like I was never part of the problem, I have said several times that I do add to the mess but that the mess was already there before I added to it, so again let me say that yes, I am at fault for inserting more into the horrible mess.

I am sorry for that, but to be honest I felt it was unfair for me to face 5 or 6 people at once when it should have been me and the person involved, most of my additional unreasonable comments was I guess my way of being unfair to those who were unfair to me. That was my fault to think that way and I do take responsibility for that.

So what now?

I propose a new start but not like any that have ever happened before, I want to both give my forum members a gift and also to ask all of you to help me to get along with you better at the same time by giving you some responsibility to go with that gift.

Step one, I am taking both eddo and wez off my ignore list, I hope they can stay that way but I will promise that only things said/done after today will be considered by me for any future action of this sort. Ali, I ask you to please postpone placing me on ignore because I think you can help me more than most to figure out how to move foward being as your so close to most of the members I seem to have the most issues with.

Step two, anything negative that has happened with me and the other members here is now forgotten and forgiven. I will not bring up the past and I ask for all of you to please give me the same chance and let the past be in the past. I am sorry we have gotten here and I ask for your forgiveness for my part in everything.

Step three, we got here not based on one thing but the accumilation of many things and even old wounds that have not healed. These things built up over time and I would like to avoid this from happening again so I am going to give everyone on this forum a "safe word".

Times Hush.

If I am stepping on a nerve that is bothering you please do not call me names or put me down, instead just say "Times Hush" and I will drop it. I really mean this, I want to have spirited debates but I do not want people feeling like they have to try and e-kill me just because we do not agree on something so I would rather just drop it. The problem is sometimes I can get the bit in my teeth and I just keep running when I should most likely just stop so I ask you guys to just give me the "Times Hush" comment so I can try and avoid hurt feelings and the need for those feelings to grow to the point they are at now.

Your responsibility to go with your use of the "safe word" is to try and let me know exactly how I got on your nerve and maybe discuss with me in private on how we could get to the point I was trying to make without hurting anyone's feelings. I can see how maybe someone might think that last part is too much but I am giving away a great deal of myself in this exchange, I am giving everyone the power to basically tell me to shut up and I will follow that order as long as the person will help me get better with getting along while still discussing these things.

Basically I am placing myself at the mercy of this forum and it's members. I am humbly asking for you all to help me be a better person and someone you would like to discuss things with.

Please.

hmmmm...

I can appreciate the sentiment here, and I am all for moving forward.

I don't realy care if you ignore me or not (or if anyone else wants to ignore me.) That's up to you.

I think we can all learn from ourselves and others, so this may be good for all of us.

but, I think I'll just see how things play out a bit. Please pardon my hesitance, but I'm not so eager to let my guard down just yet. I hope you are sincere in this.

In the meantime, I will refrain from being mean, and won't mention your significant other at all.

Good luck.

I will prove it to you with my actions, I just ask for people to see what I show without old issues coloring the glass they look through.

That is not to say I will not be an opinionated azz, my views will not really change, all I am trying to do is figure out how to share my views so you guys don't want to e-kill me in the process, lol.

Your help in this process will be appreciated.

I will copy/paste the reply I left on TJ's public profile here so that people don't think I am callously avoiding this thread:

"You know what, Louis....that was an honest attempt from you. I will give you that. In light of recent events, I still do consider myself to be a fair person.

I have a lot of other things rolling around in my mind at the moment, and I will give your proposal the consideration it deserves. I will think on it and give you an answer on Monday.

And I do thank you. Have a great weekend."

I think a weekend break from all of this is exactly what everyone needs.

Awww....for sure I'm in! Warm hugs and snugglies all around!

In all seriousness....I admire you TJ for putting so much thought into how to resolve some of this. Takes a nice big pair of stones to admit wrong doing.

I'm cool with that. Thank you for really listening and understanding now. I was convinced you were a lost cause, but this is really refreshing and a glimmer of hope. I hope we can all get along from this point forward, even if we don't agree on everything.

Ok...I am not too rotten of a person that I can't spy a genuine attempt to try to set things back on the right track. Believe it or not, I'm much more interested in having fun here by sharing laughs and helping one another out when we just need someone to listen than to rub people's noses in messes from the past.

I will not put you on ignore, TJ. I'm glad to see that you have lifted the feature for wez and eddo, too. Everyone has good things to contribute to this site if they choose to do so. Everyone.

And if I ever get out of line, anyone can feel free to message me about it as well.

I hope this works because I would sincerely like it to.

Peace.

And if I ever get out of line, anyone can feel free to message me about it as well.

I echo this as well. I know at times I can be the instigator (SHOCKER!!! ) so if I am the one getting out of line, you all have the permission to bitch slap me via my profile or whatever.

I'm all for us all playing together.

Barf!

This thread is yet another lame ploy to get attention.

You'll all be arguing again in no time. AND SO YOU SHOULD.

All I or anyone else can do is "TRY". There is no gurantee to be sure, well there is one gurantee, if you don't try, you are guranteed to fail.

I am sure I will still irritate some who do not share my opinions, I said that much in this thread too, my goal is to try and not let irritation build to the point of people feeling like they have to try and e-kill me.

Being willing to shut up when asked is not really that difficult of a thing to accomplish, but the really difficult thing is letting go of the motivations to be ugly to each other. Sometimes we can hold to these desires in an almost desperate embrace.

I am also willing to take advise Anna, what more could I do to prove I am willing to meet you and other people half way? Get involved, you might just like how it turns out.

Barf!

 

This thread is yet another lame ploy to get attention.

 

You'll all be arguing again in no time. AND SO YOU SHOULD.

Like TJ needs anymore attention.

I guess you haven't gone back though the threads lately. I think this was a good gesture that was well needed...

Like TJ needs anymore attention.

I guess you haven't gone back though the threads lately. I think this was a good gesture that was well needed...

I agree. Too much fighting for too long gets tiring.

Barf!

 

This thread is yet another lame ploy to get attention.

 

You'll all be arguing again in no time. AND SO YOU SHOULD.

Anna got it right, One of many who have left this site rather than engage in grade school level debate with TJ.

Anna got it right, One of many who have left this site rather than engage in grade school level debate with TJ.

Yep. First time I called Times...Hush it just led to him putting in his last words and proceeding to go to pm's and refuse to see his ignorance and irrelevance of his stupid lottery comparison to wanting a ruling party.

So, as I also predicted, this means nothing. Don't bother trying it.

I agree. Too much fighting for too long gets tiring.

Not for psychopaths.

Yep. First time I called Times...Hush it just led to him putting in his last words and proceeding to go to pm's and refuse to see his ignorance and irrelevance of his stupid lottery comparison to wanting a ruling party.

 

So, as I also predicted, this means nothing. Don't bother trying it.

You wanted it to work as a way of saying what you wanted to say but not fulfill the other side of the bargan to yourself be involved in helping me to say things in a way that would still impart the information but in a way that did not upset you. I sent you pm's because that was part of the agreement.

If all you desire is to say what you want without me ever responding then just ban me again.

If instead you want to work together to find some peace that will require "work" from "both" of us.

Are you willing to work?

Hmmm, without a doubt, you have very little self-control, tj.

This from the shoutbox last week. Emkay and I were having a chat while this was happening as a kind of background noise.

Times : (15 September 2010 - 01:10 AM) I assume eddo that you um....gave a donation.... due to your saving yourself and all that.....lol

I'm okay with a hug, but Builder has to wash first, his coprophilia leaves a bad odor....

Because Builder would never waste a good dump when he can play with it instead, lol

You know Builder, even in Australia, there is treatments for your coprophilia

I bet you like it becuase you get really good turds to play with after eating it right Builder?

Has emkay joined you in that game?

Emaky seems like the coprophilia type too come to think of it.

Not a joke Builder, you have a serious problem that needs proper medical treatment

See how it has infected emkay?

Now even she is stuck on this infatuation.

You guys are messed up.

Why not try to be more normal?

coprophilia is nothign to joke about you two, why can't you take your problem seriously?

Joking it off will not make it go away.

So Builder, do you find playing with animal turds better than human waste?

How exactly does one advertise for partners of coprophilia while traveling?

Do you practice your coprophilia while you sleepwalk as well?

Is your gay lover into coprophilia or do you practice that outside your relationship?

Be careful with emkay, you won't be the first to get a gift that keeps on giving, lol.

Better to stay with your usual men and not be so desperate you need to be with someone like emkay.

So do you do the foot tapping think in bathrooms too Builder?

Or do you guys who love coprophilia have your own special signal?

Maybe a skid mark piece of paper tossed under the divider or something Builder?

Are there parts of your gay bars devoted to those who love coprophilia?

Times : (15 September 2010 - 01:32 AM) Well Builder, time for me to go make some money, have fun and remember, wash your hands before eating, feces is not considered an acceptable spice for food.

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Now that's twenty-four shouts without either of us responding to you, Louis, and all because I asked you if Obama had to okay your nipple clamp purchase. You are aware that nipple clamps are used by heterosexuals, and they have nothing to do with your anus?

Now I don't particularly care what you dribble on about, because most of your lengthy tomes are the same dribble rehashed, but I do believe you owe Emkay a sincere apology.

Oh, and I didn't forget calling you and IWS "girls" due to your tag-teaming efforts in some threads, but it would appear that IWS has given you the "bum's rush" (pardon the pun)over your meaningless use of the coined phrases you glean off others, and your fixated denial of factual evidence.

I'm not at all withdrawing my concerned statements to wez that you are in fact a sufferer of the common narcissistic personality disorder, and I would propose that you confess to yourself, at the very least,that you have a major problem, and seek some guidance from your parish or priest or whatever subsitutes in your life as outside help.

And don't forget Emkay. She said nothing that wasn't in jest.

Hmmm, without a doubt, you have very little self-control, tj.

 

This from the shoutbox last week. Emkay and I were having a chat while this was happening as a kind of background noise.

 

Times : (15 September 2010 - 01:10 AM) I assume eddo that you um....gave a donation.... due to your saving yourself and all that.....lol

 

I'm okay with a hug, but Builder has to wash first, his coprophilia leaves a bad odor....

 

 

Because Builder would never waste a good dump when he can play with it instead, lol

 

You know Builder, even in Australia, there is treatments for your coprophilia

 

 

I bet you like it becuase you get really good turds to play with after eating it right Builder?

 

Has emkay joined you in that game?

 

Emaky seems like the coprophilia type too come to think of it.

 

Not a joke Builder, you have a serious problem that needs proper medical treatment

 

See how it has infected emkay?

 

Now even she is stuck on this infatuation.

 

You guys are messed up.

 

Why not try to be more normal?

 

coprophilia is nothign to joke about you two, why can't you take your problem seriously?

 

Joking it off will not make it go away.

 

So Builder, do you find playing with animal turds better than human waste?

 

How exactly does one advertise for partners of coprophilia while traveling?

 

Do you practice your coprophilia while you sleepwalk as well?

 

Is your gay lover into coprophilia or do you practice that outside your relationship?

 

Be careful with emkay, you won't be the first to get a gift that keeps on giving, lol.

 

Better to stay with your usual men and not be so desperate you need to be with someone like emkay.

 

So do you do the foot tapping think in bathrooms too Builder?

 

Or do you guys who love coprophilia have your own special signal?

 

Maybe a skid mark piece of paper tossed under the divider or something Builder?

 

Are there parts of your gay bars devoted to those who love coprophilia?

 

Times : (15 September 2010 - 01:32 AM) Well Builder, time for me to go make some money, have fun and remember, wash your hands before eating, feces is not considered an acceptable spice for food.

 

 

 

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Now that's twenty-four shouts without either of us responding to you, Louis, and all because I asked you if Obama had to okay your nipple clamp purchase. You are aware that nipple clamps are used by heterosexuals, and they have nothing to do with your anus?

 

Now I don't particularly care what you dribble on about, because most of your lengthy tomes are the same dribble rehashed, but I do believe you owe Emkay a sincere apology.

What a weird and sick individual.