Silver_dragon87 Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Let's make this quick and simple and throw it to you: tonight I was watching TV and it gave me a thought about God. All my personal opinions aside, I have a simple question. (And I do ask it in innocence, even though it sounds sarcastic.) If you believe in a being, an entity if you will, that is so powerful that it created/manages/generally lords over the entire universe...why does it have a gender? If this thing is SO outrageously supreme, don't you think it's a wee bit ridiculous to tie it to earthly things with something as trivial as a gender? Do you really believe that this God is a physical THING with a gender and...bits and all? Or am I the only one who believes that if God actually existed, it would have to be--HAVE to be--a presence of pure energy? Woops, little opinion nipped in there Of course you all know how I feel about this "God," but that doesn't mean I'm not interested to know. What's the justification here? I guess that wasn't so quick, was it? c(o; Quote Everyone pound your feet to this phenomenon. Now, let's make it loud, let's show 'em all how you move to this phenomenon. Roll! Open your soul, maybe lose control inside of this phenomenon. Just let yourself go and let everyone know you move to this phenomenon. Phenomenon --- Thousand Foot Krutches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrayGal Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 I believe God has NO gender...Yet Jesus does but the Lord himself does not. So i believe that its just easier for people in general to refer to GOD as HIM because back in the day...(like my dating back thingy here?) it was known for the man to be the "head of the house hold or bread maker" so when it says man was created in the image of GOD they assume...MALE... Now my son was created in the image of my husband but now looks his mama and...who did the "real creating"..MAMA..so its like a combo thing to me..hard to reall explain especially not sounding silly Quote http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/bf579d790688a5b6ce4acac92ae0b3e3.jpg Gray~Gal ..... You can only be young once. But you can always be immature. ~Dave Barry "I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equally." WC Fields. Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege. Unknown There is nothing more frightening than active ignorance. ~Goethe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_dragon87 Posted September 14, 2005 Author Share Posted September 14, 2005 So you're saying people do it because it's convenient and because anything in power is automatically male? I can't believe women put up with this shit. Quote Everyone pound your feet to this phenomenon. Now, let's make it loud, let's show 'em all how you move to this phenomenon. Roll! Open your soul, maybe lose control inside of this phenomenon. Just let yourself go and let everyone know you move to this phenomenon. Phenomenon --- Thousand Foot Krutches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 So you're saying people do it because it's convenient and because anything in power is automatically male? I can't believe women put up with this shit.Like referring to boats as feminine, I can't believe men put up with that! Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh G. Rekshun Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 "For God created MAN in the image of himself" That kinda sums it up, huh? Quote "May you sit naked in Hell for all eternity with your tender rectum resting squarely upon the sharp end of a red hot barbed stalagmite, all the while you are tormented forever by hideous demons who force you to listen to endless Barry Manilow and Elton John duets of Ashlee Simpson's greatest hits, let this fate befall all those who so much as plagiarize one single word from my work" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angie Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 "For God created MAN in the image of himself" That kinda sums it up, huh? It does...yet as the Bible often does, it contradicts itself once again Galatians 3:38 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free person, there is not male and female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Should we take this to mean that in fact sex does not matter? Quote http://www.darwinawards.com/ http://www.snopes.com http://www.breakthechain.org STOP THE SPAM!! Click Me You Know You Want To Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynthiaa89 Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Wow, what I'm about to say is waaaaaaay off subject. It would be pointless to start a new thread about it though. How do you all just love those little politically correct Jesus figures and pictures you see in the stores? You know the ones that have a black Jesus, or a white Jesus with rosey red checks. Lol. That's something that I've been wondering about for a long time. Quote "Life's tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw2747 Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 I have no real opinion on that. But the absolute LAMEST thing I have heard was that some girl told me Jesus was FEMALE because women are superior so he couldn't possibly be a guy. Quote "I wish I was in Tijuana, eating barbecued iguana." - Wall of Voodoo http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/fb910e0baa5b4e108ffee98f66cdb3cc.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynthiaa89 Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Okay, Waaay off subject. What do you guys think about the politically correct Jesus figures and pictures you see in the stores? You know the ones where he is a black guy or a white guy with rosey red checks. Lol Quote "Life's tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw2747 Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Okay, Waaay off subject. What do you guys think about the politically correct Jesus figures and pictures you see in the stores? You know the ones where he is a black guy or a white guy with rosey red checks. Lol I did answer your question. I just thought I would throw another piece of useless BS trivia there. Quote "I wish I was in Tijuana, eating barbecued iguana." - Wall of Voodoo http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/fb910e0baa5b4e108ffee98f66cdb3cc.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruse Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Why do "women" always need to make a stink when they aren't included? Goddamn, I hate it when feminists bitch about everything. Then I remember why I am sexist against my own sex. They're all bitches, and have one malfunction or another that they will choke to death to scream to the world. What is there to put up with? Just observations from a casual observer. Quote Invictus maneo. O imitarores, servum pecus! You make me wish I could lose half of my brains just so I can say I appreciated what you just said. "Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live." - Adolf Hitler Art of War. Atlas Shrugged. Not just books; Philosophy, and ways of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angie Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Why do "women" always need to make a stink when they aren't included? Goddamn, I hate it when feminists bitch about everything. Then I remember why I am sexist against my own sex. They're all bitches, and have one malfunction or another that they will choke to death to scream to the world. What is there to put up with? Just observations from a casual observer. Because JUST IN CASE you didn't notice, women have just started getting rights over the last two centuries (I don't have many complaints about life nowadays) and I think alot of that can be attributed to the Christian Church. That is what she is griping about. Quote http://www.darwinawards.com/ http://www.snopes.com http://www.breakthechain.org STOP THE SPAM!! Click Me You Know You Want To Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruse Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 I'm not saying that I don't do those things, but I hate them with a passion and try to stay away from feminism as far as possible. Feminism is like a disease. One girl is pissed because she can't vote, another realizes she wants to be reponisble for the choosing of a world leader, and another hates the prefix on 'woman': 'wo'. The Christian Church is right when they refer to 'God' as man. Woman is too much drama. If I wanted drama in my religion, I'd be an Islamic. Quote Invictus maneo. O imitarores, servum pecus! You make me wish I could lose half of my brains just so I can say I appreciated what you just said. "Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live." - Adolf Hitler Art of War. Atlas Shrugged. Not just books; Philosophy, and ways of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_dragon87 Posted September 15, 2005 Author Share Posted September 15, 2005 Let's just clear this up before it gets out of hand: I can see how what I said could be interpreted as feminism, but that wasn't what I intended. All I'm saying is that it's ridiculous to attribute something as petty as gender to a supreme being if you're going to believe in one in the first place. However, on the topic of feminism, I'm not an activist, but I certainly have some of the mentality. We've been denied our rights for far too long and it continues to this day. Not every woman who doesn't make a lot of money is the victim of discrimination, not every guy eyeing you is a pig, not all men are stupid, our votes and rights are EQUAL--no more for either gender and no less, that's all I'm asking for. If you're going to have a male leader one year, you should have a female one the next year. Why? Because it's FAIR, that's why. Obviously, though, if there's one thing the world's not, that's fair. Anyway, it was just a general question, and my statement about women putting up with this was general as well--I simply find it amazing that so many women can follow this religion even though their rights are being trampled in every way from the priesthood of the "head sect" to the holy writings to the entity itself. Was there a daughter of God? Not that I know of. How ODD. (Again, just observing, not getting riled up ) Quote Everyone pound your feet to this phenomenon. Now, let's make it loud, let's show 'em all how you move to this phenomenon. Roll! Open your soul, maybe lose control inside of this phenomenon. Just let yourself go and let everyone know you move to this phenomenon. Phenomenon --- Thousand Foot Krutches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterNetProphet Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Wow, what I'm about to say is waaaaaaay off subject. It would be pointless to start a new thread about it though. How do you all just love those little politically correct Jesus figures and pictures you see in the stores? You know the ones that have a black Jesus, or a white Jesus with rosey red checks. Lol. That's something that I've been wondering about for a long time. hmm I think we should have followed the islamic historical example....try finding a pic of mohammed(peace be upon myself)..good luck. christiandom should stop with these p.c graven images period(.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Perenna Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 There is no God. Get over it. Find something better to think about. Quote _______________________________________________________ I don't know how to put this, but ... I'm kind of a big deal. http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/da43a2f8a710897a421f74efa00eba9a.jpg I'm still here. I'm still a fool for the holy grail Not all gay men send me penis pictures. But no straight men do. And to date, no woman has sent me a picture of her vaginal canal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angie Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 That wasn't the point. I don't believe in God, and neither does SD. She was merely making a point on the gender roles in the Christian religion. Nothing more. Quote http://www.darwinawards.com/ http://www.snopes.com http://www.breakthechain.org STOP THE SPAM!! Click Me You Know You Want To Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw2747 Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 That wasn't the point. I don't believe in God, and neither does SD. She was merely making a point on the gender roles in the Christian religion. Nothing more. Wow, I didn't know you didn't believe in God either Angie. Are ya atheist or just not a God lover? Quote "I wish I was in Tijuana, eating barbecued iguana." - Wall of Voodoo http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/fb910e0baa5b4e108ffee98f66cdb3cc.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papabryant Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 It does...yet as the Bible often does, it contradicts itself once again Galatians 3:38 Should we take this to mean that in fact sex does not matter? Boy, when you decontextualize you really go all out! This verse refers to how God views arbetrary social conventions and mores, not gender roles assignments in the after life. There is neither slave nor free (God views them as equals, man makes distinctions and bases how they are treated on those distinctions), male nor female (God views them as moral equals although their functions are different, man views the functions as distictions that allow for different treatment), etc... If you insist on quoting scripture to us as a point of skeptical analysis, please be more careful and use relevant citations. For once in my life I'd like to actually work at rebutting you skeptics, rather than just doing the usual pointing out the obvious misreading and laughing. Quote A Christian with a Bible is a nuisance to your comfortable level of non-belief. And a Christian with a brain cannot be as easily dismissed as you might be accustomed to. But a Christian with both is a dangerous thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skategreen Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Wow, what I'm about to say is waaaaaaay off subject. It would be pointless to start a new thread about it though. How do you all just love those little politically correct Jesus figures and pictures you see in the stores? You know the ones that have a black Jesus, or a white Jesus with rosey red checks. Lol. That's something that I've been wondering about for a long time. I have a Jesus nightlight. I looooove my Jesus nightlight. It's from the dollar store and it cost 99 cents. It's cream colored plastic. Sometimes I put a red-orange flame lightbulb in it, and he then kinda glows like he's on fire. I loved it so much I bought 4 of them, and gave them all away. I then found another store and bought another bunch of them. Over the years I've probably given away 12 of them. They make GREAT gifts. Everyone loves them. Not long ago one of the recipients told me that their favorite thing in the world was their Jesus NightLight. Then I discovered the Jesus candles. Tall glass encased candles, for - what? - 99 cents! They sure came in handy for the 2003 blackout. The way the Christian religion is merchandized is the funniest fucking thing in the world. Quote The thought manifests as the word. The word manifests as the deed. The deed develops into habit. And the habit hardens into character. So watch the thought and its ways with care. And let it spring from love, born out of concern for all beings. - Buddha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonon Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 god doesnt have a gender, gods "son" jesus was a man. god is not the guy you see pictures of with the beard, thats jesus. men are typically the head of many things. for instance the head of a house hold or the main if not only the one who brings in the income (not that im saying a woman cant) but, for the most part this is the way its been for, as far as we know of, since the begining of time. Quote p1010226 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chartreusechick Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 I was raised christian, but I no longer am. I was taught that "God" has no true gender. God is reffered to as a male because during that era, men were considered to be the leaders of society. Men had more power and pull, so if people were to follow a religion surrounding a god, I guess it was figured it should be prosonified as male. I personally don't beleive that, but it was what I was taught. Hell, I don't even beleive Jesus was the son of God. I beleive there is a possibility he existed, and he was extraordinary, but son of God, no. However, I don't knock anyone who does. Quote I can blow great bugger bubbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynthiaa89 Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 I have a Jesus nightlight. I looooove my Jesus nightlight. It's from the dollar store and it cost 99 cents. It's cream colored plastic. Sometimes I put a red-orange flame lightbulb in it, and he then kinda glows like he's on fire. I loved it so much I bought 4 of them, and gave them all away. I then found another store and bought another bunch of them. Over the years I've probably given away 12 of them. They make GREAT gifts. Everyone loves them. Not long ago one of the recipients told me that their favorite thing in the world was their Jesus NightLight. Then I discovered the Jesus candles. Tall glass encased candles, for - what? - 99 cents! They sure came in handy for the 2003 blackout. The way the Christian religion is merchandized is the funniest fucking thing in the world. Yeah, it's pretty pitiful..with that said. YAY! for Jesus NightLights..:S Quote "Life's tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phreakwars Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 It begs the question as to why we have yet to see the Jesus shampoo.. Gonna wash that sin right outta your hair !!! . . 1 Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angie Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Wow, I didn't know you didn't believe in God either Angie. Are ya atheist or just not a God lover? I don't know what I am. I believe in SOMETHING but not the way the Christians put it. I practice witchcraft once in a while, kinda like the dual deity idea~idea of balance. But I don't know exactly it is I believe. Still searching for that answer. Quote http://www.darwinawards.com/ http://www.snopes.com http://www.breakthechain.org STOP THE SPAM!! Click Me You Know You Want To Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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