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U.S. blasts plan to dump iron dust in sea to absorb CO2
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=8a0a5d45-e90c-460f-9462-ae1509594cdc

Proposal to boost plant life not a proven tactic to combat global
warming, officials say

Kelly Patterson, The Ottawa Citizen
Published: Tuesday, June 19, 2007

A clash with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is threatening
to scuttle a U.S. company's plan to "seed" the Pacific Ocean with iron
dust to offset global warming.

Planktos Inc., which has offices in Vancouver and San Francisco, wants
to set sail this month from Florida to dump more than 45 tonnes of
iron dust into the sea near the Galapagos Islands.

The iron nutrients would stimulate the growth of phytoplankton, which
would then absorb large amounts of carbon dioxide -- an experimental
process Planktos compares to reforestation.

Planktos Inc. says phytoplankton, seen in bright blue and green, would
be increased if iron dust was dumped in the ocean, boosting carbon
dioxide absorption.

A for-profit "ecorestoration" company, Planktos plans to sell carbon
credits from this type of project to firms like Vancouver's Wedgewood
Hotel and Spa, which has agreed to buy 5,000 tonnes of carbon credits.

The firm launched its two-year "Voyage of Recovery" program in March,
launching a public relations campaign in Washington, D.C., to promote
its "green message of hope."

But in May, the EPA warned the firm it may need a permit under the
U.S. Ocean Dumping Act if it uses its U.S.-registered vessel, the
Weatherbird II.

Planktos CEO Russ George says U.S. regulations should apply only when
a firm dumps levels of a substance that are one per cent or more above
the level considered toxic.

His firm's plan would fall "roughly a billion times below regulatory
limit," he said.

If the EPA stands in his way, he says he will use a
flag-of-convenience ship.

Planktos' controversial plan, which has drawn fire from environmental
groups and many scientists, will be on the agenda of this week's
meeting of the International Maritime Organization in Spain, which
sets international shipping standards for matters such as ocean
dumping.

In a submission to the group, of which Canada and the U.S. are
members, the U.S. government urges nations to scrutinize any such
project, adding "Planktos was not able to provide the EPA with any
information ... (on) the potential environmental impacts" of the plan.

The U.S. cites the possibility that the project would lead to toxic
algae blooms, and that the decomposing plankton masses would release
other greenhouse gases or choke off the oxygen supply in the deep
ocean.

Nonsense, says Mr. George.

"The world has spent the last 20 years and more than $100 million"
developing the science behind the plan, he says.

"These questions have all been addressed," he says, blaming the EPA's
reservations on "fear mongering" by environmental groups, such as the
Ottawa-based ETC Group, which discovered the U.S. government document
this week.

Ken Caldeira, also of the Carnegie Institution, says "there's no
practical way to verify" that ocean seeding would sequester any
additional carbon -- and if it did, "it would exacerbate ocean
acidification."

Mr. Caldeira was co-author of a section of the United Nations'
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report that dealt with
ocean-carbon capture.

"It's far-fetched to claim you help ocean ecosystems by disturbing
them," he said.

Such projects are a disincentive to pursue real reductions in
fossil-fuel emissions, he said.

--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

Celibacy in healthy human beings is a form of
insanity. -- Captain Compassion

"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.

Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
 
It might work "just" to pump up bottom sediment.
Huge power requirement for the pumping so let use
cheap coal America Ace in the Hole. Oh right that
won't work. Oh lets ship iron oxide out into the ocean.
And just where did this iron oxide come from?
Mining isn't free or without environmental effect.

The plan I suspect deserves blasting, ideally
with all its advocates on board out in the middle
of Atlantic ;-) In Chem Class, it was the class
bonehead that loved this idea.



Captain Compassion wrote:
> U.S. blasts plan to dump iron dust in sea to absorb CO2
> http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=8a0a5d45-e90c-460f-9462-ae1509594cdc
>
> Proposal to boost plant life not a proven tactic to combat global
> warming, officials say
>
> Kelly Patterson, The Ottawa Citizen
> Published: Tuesday, June 19, 2007
>
> A clash with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is threatening
> to scuttle a U.S. company's plan to "seed" the Pacific Ocean with iron
> dust to offset global warming.
>
> Planktos Inc., which has offices in Vancouver and San Francisco, wants
> to set sail this month from Florida to dump more than 45 tonnes of
> iron dust into the sea near the Galapagos Islands.
>
> The iron nutrients would stimulate the growth of phytoplankton, which
> would then absorb large amounts of carbon dioxide -- an experimental
> process Planktos compares to reforestation.
>
> Planktos Inc. says phytoplankton, seen in bright blue and green, would
> be increased if iron dust was dumped in the ocean, boosting carbon
> dioxide absorption.
>
> A for-profit "ecorestoration" company, Planktos plans to sell carbon
> credits from this type of project to firms like Vancouver's Wedgewood
> Hotel and Spa, which has agreed to buy 5,000 tonnes of carbon credits.
>
> The firm launched its two-year "Voyage of Recovery" program in March,
> launching a public relations campaign in Washington, D.C., to promote
> its "green message of hope."
>
> But in May, the EPA warned the firm it may need a permit under the
> U.S. Ocean Dumping Act if it uses its U.S.-registered vessel, the
> Weatherbird II.
>
> Planktos CEO Russ George says U.S. regulations should apply only when
> a firm dumps levels of a substance that are one per cent or more above
> the level considered toxic.
>
> His firm's plan would fall "roughly a billion times below regulatory
> limit," he said.
>
> If the EPA stands in his way, he says he will use a
> flag-of-convenience ship.
>
> Planktos' controversial plan, which has drawn fire from environmental
> groups and many scientists, will be on the agenda of this week's
> meeting of the International Maritime Organization in Spain, which
> sets international shipping standards for matters such as ocean
> dumping.
>
> In a submission to the group, of which Canada and the U.S. are
> members, the U.S. government urges nations to scrutinize any such
> project, adding "Planktos was not able to provide the EPA with any
> information ... (on) the potential environmental impacts" of the plan.
>
> The U.S. cites the possibility that the project would lead to toxic
> algae blooms, and that the decomposing plankton masses would release
> other greenhouse gases or choke off the oxygen supply in the deep
> ocean.
>
> Nonsense, says Mr. George.
>
> "The world has spent the last 20 years and more than $100 million"
> developing the science behind the plan, he says.
>
> "These questions have all been addressed," he says, blaming the EPA's
> reservations on "fear mongering" by environmental groups, such as the
> Ottawa-based ETC Group, which discovered the U.S. government document
> this week.
>
> Ken Caldeira, also of the Carnegie Institution, says "there's no
> practical way to verify" that ocean seeding would sequester any
> additional carbon -- and if it did, "it would exacerbate ocean
> acidification."
>
> Mr. Caldeira was co-author of a section of the United Nations'
> Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report that dealt with
> ocean-carbon capture.
>
> "It's far-fetched to claim you help ocean ecosystems by disturbing
> them," he said.
>
> Such projects are a disincentive to pursue real reductions in
> fossil-fuel emissions, he said.
>
> --
> There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
> the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
> cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
>
> Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
> on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
> with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
> are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
> me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
>
> Celibacy in healthy human beings is a form of
> insanity. -- Captain Compassion
>
> "Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
>
> Joseph R. Darancette
> daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
 
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 01:23:26 -0700, betaine_hcl@yahoo.com wrote:

>
>It might work "just" to pump up bottom sediment.
>Huge power requirement for the pumping so let use
>cheap coal America Ace in the Hole. Oh right that
>won't work. Oh lets ship iron oxide out into the ocean.
>And just where did this iron oxide come from?
>Mining isn't free or without environmental effect.
>
>The plan I suspect deserves blasting, ideally
>with all its advocates on board out in the middle
>of Atlantic ;-) In Chem Class, it was the class
>bonehead that loved this idea.
>

:)
>
>
>Captain Compassion wrote:
>> U.S. blasts plan to dump iron dust in sea to absorb CO2
>> http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=8a0a5d45-e90c-460f-9462-ae1509594cdc
>>
>> Proposal to boost plant life not a proven tactic to combat global
>> warming, officials say
>>
>> Kelly Patterson, The Ottawa Citizen
>> Published: Tuesday, June 19, 2007
>>
>> A clash with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is threatening
>> to scuttle a U.S. company's plan to "seed" the Pacific Ocean with iron
>> dust to offset global warming.
>>
>> Planktos Inc., which has offices in Vancouver and San Francisco, wants
>> to set sail this month from Florida to dump more than 45 tonnes of
>> iron dust into the sea near the Galapagos Islands.
>>
>> The iron nutrients would stimulate the growth of phytoplankton, which
>> would then absorb large amounts of carbon dioxide -- an experimental
>> process Planktos compares to reforestation.
>>
>> Planktos Inc. says phytoplankton, seen in bright blue and green, would
>> be increased if iron dust was dumped in the ocean, boosting carbon
>> dioxide absorption.
>>
>> A for-profit "ecorestoration" company, Planktos plans to sell carbon
>> credits from this type of project to firms like Vancouver's Wedgewood
>> Hotel and Spa, which has agreed to buy 5,000 tonnes of carbon credits.
>>
>> The firm launched its two-year "Voyage of Recovery" program in March,
>> launching a public relations campaign in Washington, D.C., to promote
>> its "green message of hope."
>>
>> But in May, the EPA warned the firm it may need a permit under the
>> U.S. Ocean Dumping Act if it uses its U.S.-registered vessel, the
>> Weatherbird II.
>>
>> Planktos CEO Russ George says U.S. regulations should apply only when
>> a firm dumps levels of a substance that are one per cent or more above
>> the level considered toxic.
>>
>> His firm's plan would fall "roughly a billion times below regulatory
>> limit," he said.
>>
>> If the EPA stands in his way, he says he will use a
>> flag-of-convenience ship.
>>
>> Planktos' controversial plan, which has drawn fire from environmental
>> groups and many scientists, will be on the agenda of this week's
>> meeting of the International Maritime Organization in Spain, which
>> sets international shipping standards for matters such as ocean
>> dumping.
>>
>> In a submission to the group, of which Canada and the U.S. are
>> members, the U.S. government urges nations to scrutinize any such
>> project, adding "Planktos was not able to provide the EPA with any
>> information ... (on) the potential environmental impacts" of the plan.
>>
>> The U.S. cites the possibility that the project would lead to toxic
>> algae blooms, and that the decomposing plankton masses would release
>> other greenhouse gases or choke off the oxygen supply in the deep
>> ocean.
>>
>> Nonsense, says Mr. George.
>>
>> "The world has spent the last 20 years and more than $100 million"
>> developing the science behind the plan, he says.
>>
>> "These questions have all been addressed," he says, blaming the EPA's
>> reservations on "fear mongering" by environmental groups, such as the
>> Ottawa-based ETC Group, which discovered the U.S. government document
>> this week.
>>
>> Ken Caldeira, also of the Carnegie Institution, says "there's no
>> practical way to verify" that ocean seeding would sequester any
>> additional carbon -- and if it did, "it would exacerbate ocean
>> acidification."
>>
>> Mr. Caldeira was co-author of a section of the United Nations'
>> Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report that dealt with
>> ocean-carbon capture.
>>
>> "It's far-fetched to claim you help ocean ecosystems by disturbing
>> them," he said.
>>
>> Such projects are a disincentive to pursue real reductions in
>> fossil-fuel emissions, he said.
>>
>> --
>> There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
>> the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
>> cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
>>
>> Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
>> on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
>> with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
>> are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
>> me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
>>
>> Celibacy in healthy human beings is a form of
>> insanity. -- Captain Compassion
>>
>> "Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
>>
>> Joseph R. Darancette
>> daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net


--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

Celibacy in healthy human beings is a form of
insanity. -- Captain Compassion

"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.

Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
 
On Jun 20, 1:06 pm, Captain Compassion <dar...@NOSPAMcharter.net>
wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 01:23:26 -0700, betaine_...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >It might work "just" to pump up bottom sediment.
> >Huge power requirement for the pumping so let use
> >cheap coal America Ace in the Hole. Oh right that
> >won't work. Oh lets ship iron oxide out into the ocean.
> >And just where did this iron oxide come from?
> >Mining isn't free or without environmental effect.

>
> >The plan I suspect deserves blasting, ideally
> >with all its advocates on board out in the middle
> >of Atlantic ;-) In Chem Class, it was the class
> >bonehead that loved this idea.

>
> :)
>
> >Captain Compassion wrote:
> >> U.S. blasts plan to dump iron dust in sea to absorb CO2
> >>http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=8a0a5d45-e90c-...

>
> >> Proposal to boost plant life not a proven tactic to combat global
> >> warming, officials say

>
> >> Kelly Patterson, The Ottawa Citizen
> >> Published: Tuesday, June 19, 2007

>
> >> A clash with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is threatening
> >> to scuttle a U.S. company's plan to "seed" the Pacific Ocean with iron
> >> dust to offset global warming.

>
> >> Planktos Inc., which has offices in Vancouver and San Francisco, wants
> >> to set sail this month from Florida to dump more than 45 tonnes of
> >> iron dust into the sea near the Galapagos Islands.

>
> >> The iron nutrients would stimulate the growth of phytoplankton, which
> >> would then absorb large amounts of carbon dioxide -- an experimental
> >> process Planktos compares to reforestation.

>
> >> Planktos Inc. says phytoplankton, seen in bright blue and green, would
> >> be increased if iron dust was dumped in the ocean, boosting carbon
> >> dioxide absorption.

>
> >> A for-profit "ecorestoration" company, Planktos plans to sell carbon
> >> credits from this type of project to firms like Vancouver's Wedgewood
> >> Hotel and Spa, which has agreed to buy 5,000 tonnes of carbon credits.

>
> >> The firm launched its two-year "Voyage of Recovery" program in March,
> >> launching a public relations campaign in Washington, D.C., to promote
> >> its "green message of hope."

>
> >> But in May, the EPA warned the firm it may need a permit under the
> >> U.S. Ocean Dumping Act if it uses its U.S.-registered vessel, the
> >> Weatherbird II.

>
> >> Planktos CEO Russ George says U.S. regulations should apply only when
> >> a firm dumps levels of a substance that are one per cent or more above
> >> the level considered toxic.

>
> >> His firm's plan would fall "roughly a billion times below regulatory
> >> limit," he said.

>
> >> If the EPA stands in his way, he says he will use a
> >> flag-of-convenience ship.

>
> >> Planktos' controversial plan, which has drawn fire from environmental
> >> groups and many scientists, will be on the agenda of this week's
> >> meeting of the International Maritime Organization in Spain, which
> >> sets international shipping standards for matters such as ocean
> >> dumping.

>
> >> In a submission to the group, of which Canada and the U.S. are
> >> members, the U.S. government urges nations to scrutinize any such
> >> project, adding "Planktos was not able to provide the EPA with any
> >> information ... (on) the potential environmental impacts" of the plan.

>
> >> The U.S. cites the possibility that the project would lead to toxic
> >> algae blooms, and that the decomposing plankton masses would release
> >> other greenhouse gases or choke off the oxygen supply in the deep
> >> ocean.

>
> >> Nonsense, says Mr. George.

>
> >> "The world has spent the last 20 years and more than $100 million"
> >> developing the science behind the plan, he says.

>
> >> "These questions have all been addressed," he says, blaming the EPA's
> >> reservations on "fear mongering" by environmental groups, such as the
> >> Ottawa-based ETC Group, which discovered the U.S. government document
> >> this week.

>
> >> Ken Caldeira, also of the Carnegie Institution, says "there's no
> >> practical way to verify" that ocean seeding would sequester any
> >> additional carbon -- and if it did, "it would exacerbate ocean
> >> acidification."

>
> >> Mr. Caldeira was co-author of a section of the United Nations'
> >> Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report that dealt with
> >> ocean-carbon capture.

>
> >> "It's far-fetched to claim you help ocean ecosystems by disturbing
> >> them," he said.

>
> >> Such projects are a disincentive to pursue real reductions in
> >> fossil-fuel emissions, he said.

>
> >> --
> >> There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
> >> the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
> >> cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

>
> >> Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
> >> on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
> >> with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
> >> are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
> >> me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

>
> >> Celibacy in healthy human beings is a form of
> >> insanity. -- Captain Compassion

>
> >> "Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.

>
> >> Joseph R. Darancette
> >> dar...@NOSPAMcharter.net

>
> --
> There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
> the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
> cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
>
> Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
> on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
> with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
> are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
> me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
>
> Celibacy in healthy human beings is a form of
> insanity. -- Captain Compassion
>
> "Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
>
> Joseph R. Darancette
> dar...@NOSPAMcharter.net



I doubt the greenies will be worried about dung as fuel,
as that dung will be convert to CO2 no matter whether
it is burned or left on the ground. I will suggest dung
has a higher and better use that of as a soil ammendment.
Its use is a symptom of a lack of options on the
part of user.

In a slightly more ideal world, Limbaugh would be
pulling a hand cart with a tank of night soil off to the rice field
instead
of servicing his patrons or buying illegal alkaloids.
-
 
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:36:41 -0700, betaine_hcl@yahoo.com wrote:

>On Jun 20, 1:06 pm, Captain Compassion <dar...@NOSPAMcharter.net>
>wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 01:23:26 -0700, betaine_...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> >It might work "just" to pump up bottom sediment.
>> >Huge power requirement for the pumping so let use
>> >cheap coal America Ace in the Hole. Oh right that
>> >won't work. Oh lets ship iron oxide out into the ocean.
>> >And just where did this iron oxide come from?
>> >Mining isn't free or without environmental effect.

>>
>> >The plan I suspect deserves blasting, ideally
>> >with all its advocates on board out in the middle
>> >of Atlantic ;-) In Chem Class, it was the class
>> >bonehead that loved this idea.

>>
>> :)
>>
>> >Captain Compassion wrote:
>> >> U.S. blasts plan to dump iron dust in sea to absorb CO2
>> >>http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=8a0a5d45-e90c-...

>>
>> >> Proposal to boost plant life not a proven tactic to combat global
>> >> warming, officials say

>>
>> >> Kelly Patterson, The Ottawa Citizen
>> >> Published: Tuesday, June 19, 2007

>>
>> >> A clash with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is threatening
>> >> to scuttle a U.S. company's plan to "seed" the Pacific Ocean with iron
>> >> dust to offset global warming.

>>
>> >> Planktos Inc., which has offices in Vancouver and San Francisco, wants
>> >> to set sail this month from Florida to dump more than 45 tonnes of
>> >> iron dust into the sea near the Galapagos Islands.

>>
>> >> The iron nutrients would stimulate the growth of phytoplankton, which
>> >> would then absorb large amounts of carbon dioxide -- an experimental
>> >> process Planktos compares to reforestation.

>>
>> >> Planktos Inc. says phytoplankton, seen in bright blue and green, would
>> >> be increased if iron dust was dumped in the ocean, boosting carbon
>> >> dioxide absorption.

>>
>> >> A for-profit "ecorestoration" company, Planktos plans to sell carbon
>> >> credits from this type of project to firms like Vancouver's Wedgewood
>> >> Hotel and Spa, which has agreed to buy 5,000 tonnes of carbon credits.

>>
>> >> The firm launched its two-year "Voyage of Recovery" program in March,
>> >> launching a public relations campaign in Washington, D.C., to promote
>> >> its "green message of hope."

>>
>> >> But in May, the EPA warned the firm it may need a permit under the
>> >> U.S. Ocean Dumping Act if it uses its U.S.-registered vessel, the
>> >> Weatherbird II.

>>
>> >> Planktos CEO Russ George says U.S. regulations should apply only when
>> >> a firm dumps levels of a substance that are one per cent or more above
>> >> the level considered toxic.

>>
>> >> His firm's plan would fall "roughly a billion times below regulatory
>> >> limit," he said.

>>
>> >> If the EPA stands in his way, he says he will use a
>> >> flag-of-convenience ship.

>>
>> >> Planktos' controversial plan, which has drawn fire from environmental
>> >> groups and many scientists, will be on the agenda of this week's
>> >> meeting of the International Maritime Organization in Spain, which
>> >> sets international shipping standards for matters such as ocean
>> >> dumping.

>>
>> >> In a submission to the group, of which Canada and the U.S. are
>> >> members, the U.S. government urges nations to scrutinize any such
>> >> project, adding "Planktos was not able to provide the EPA with any
>> >> information ... (on) the potential environmental impacts" of the plan.

>>
>> >> The U.S. cites the possibility that the project would lead to toxic
>> >> algae blooms, and that the decomposing plankton masses would release
>> >> other greenhouse gases or choke off the oxygen supply in the deep
>> >> ocean.

>>
>> >> Nonsense, says Mr. George.

>>
>> >> "The world has spent the last 20 years and more than $100 million"
>> >> developing the science behind the plan, he says.

>>
>> >> "These questions have all been addressed," he says, blaming the EPA's
>> >> reservations on "fear mongering" by environmental groups, such as the
>> >> Ottawa-based ETC Group, which discovered the U.S. government document
>> >> this week.

>>
>> >> Ken Caldeira, also of the Carnegie Institution, says "there's no
>> >> practical way to verify" that ocean seeding would sequester any
>> >> additional carbon -- and if it did, "it would exacerbate ocean
>> >> acidification."

>>
>> >> Mr. Caldeira was co-author of a section of the United Nations'
>> >> Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report that dealt with
>> >> ocean-carbon capture.

>>
>> >> "It's far-fetched to claim you help ocean ecosystems by disturbing
>> >> them," he said.

>>
>> >> Such projects are a disincentive to pursue real reductions in
>> >> fossil-fuel emissions, he said.

>>
>> >> --
>> >> There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
>> >> the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
>> >> cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

>>
>> >> Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
>> >> on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
>> >> with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
>> >> are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
>> >> me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

>>
>> >> Celibacy in healthy human beings is a form of
>> >> insanity. -- Captain Compassion

>>
>> >> "Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.

>>
>> >> Joseph R. Darancette
>> >> dar...@NOSPAMcharter.net

>>
>> --
>> There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
>> the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
>> cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
>>
>> Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
>> on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
>> with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
>> are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
>> me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
>>
>> Celibacy in healthy human beings is a form of
>> insanity. -- Captain Compassion
>>
>> "Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
>>
>> Joseph R. Darancette
>> dar...@NOSPAMcharter.net

>
>
>I doubt the greenies will be worried about dung as fuel,
>as that dung will be convert to CO2 no matter whether
>it is burned or left on the ground. I will suggest dung
>has a higher and better use that of as a soil ammendment.
>Its use is a symptom of a lack of options on the
>part of user.
>
>In a slightly more ideal world, Limbaugh would be
>pulling a hand cart with a tank of night soil off to the rice field
>instead
>of servicing his patrons or buying illegal alkaloids.
>

"All drugs of any interest to any moderately intelligent person in
America are now illegal." -- Thomas Szasz


--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

Celibacy in healthy human beings is a form of
insanity. -- Captain Compassion

"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.

Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
 
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