Vegetarian/ Vegan

I don't think this will get a lot of action, but it's worth a try!

 

I'm a vegan [quite recent decision actually]. I have been Vegetarian since January and just made the decision to go vegan literally mintutes ago. Anyways, I want to hear some opinions on this subject, let's try to keep the flaming at a minimum though.

 

I suppose I should explain first before I get too ahead of myself.

 

Vegetarian- a person who does not eat or does not believe in eating meat, fish, fowl, or, in some cases, any food derived from animals, as eggs or cheese, but subsists on vegetables, fruits, nuts, grain, etc.

 

Vegan-a vegetarian who omits all animal products from the diet. for example honey, beewax, fur, leather ect.

 

 

By the way, anybody interested in vegetarianism/ veganism should visit the PETA websites. peta.org, peta2.com, petakids.com, kentuckyfriendcruelty.com, milksucks.org. There are other but those are the main ones.

 

Remember, be nice!

I don't agree with it, actually.

 

Alot of people say they don't eat meat because who's to say that animals are less important than humans? They're both living things. BUT.. plants are living things as well. So why are plants less important than animals?

 

That's just the way I see it. I mean no disrespect or offense to anybody.

Plants don't have central nervous systems, they don't feel or think. :]

They're still living, and you're killing them by eating them, lol.

 

Cows don't feel pain when they're slaughtered.. they're stunned first, and then killed instantly.

 

As for thinking, it shouldn't matter whether or not a life form has a brain. That's almost like saying somebody isn't as important as someone else because they're dumb.

 

But anyways, I can see the vegetarian/vegan point of view, and I'm fine with other people doing that, and I can see where they're coming from. That's just not my belief

I know, I'm not trying to disrespect you at all.

 

But. You should read some PETA stuff, you will quickly learn that many cows are not stunned before they are slaughtered. Most are consiuos (sp?) and many kick and stuggle to get away, the same goes for pigs and other 'livestock'.

 

Mentally handicapped people can think. Just not in the same way as you or I. They also have central nervous systems. Most register emotions.

Taylor i appreciate your efforts for making us concious on the issue.

 

I personally could never see myself as a vegetarian or a vegan because i simply can't afford it.

When you work at a fast food place, it is soo convienient to buy meat products because even if they sell salads you can get a whole meal and change as opposed to a small salad which is way more expensive and less filling.

Thanks Fiona. Yes, it's more expensive sometimes, but sometimes it can also be less expensive. It depends on what kind of meat your buying. For example, a burger cost less than tofu, but tofu cost less than a steak. It really depends on your eating habits.

 

Being vegetarian/ vegan also has tons of health benefits. Lower risk of cancer [all sorts], lower obesity rate, lower risk of heart disease, lower blood presure. Those sorts of things.

Let me ask you this. Your swimming south coast of Florida freak accident happens you get cut and a shark comes out and eats you.

 

A shark several advantages over you. A better arsenol, a homefeild advantage, better underwater vision. I mean they show no compasion.

 

If a bear, wolf, bull, ect. any animal feels threatened it attacks. Peta guys then say well the animal has no other choices and only acted on instinct.

 

Well I am hungry. I feel threatened with a possible death if I don't eat so I eat meat becuase I know in that way my health can benifet from things such as protiens, carbs, ect. and I will fufil my hunger. Why cannot I just eat the meat. If an animal is hungry they'll eat. We are all animals just more advanced. We earned our right to own this planets and do what is needed. If it wasn't for survival off meat we wouldn't even have tofu.

 

Which brings me to my next point. I was sneaked a tofu burger. Had no clue it was tofu. Said it was a homemade burger. Lemme tell you something. It is possibly the nastiest thing I ever ate. It has the texture and feel and somewhat same taste of it. But then after a few chews you get this rubber taste and like it looses the appeal of a burger. I mean like someone said Cows don't feel it when their heads are sliced off. As in humane as it may sound its true. If you randomly had your head sliced off you would not see it. Your arms may swings and your legs kick but You dont feel it. Thoes are your nerves reacting and giving every last twicth. Once your brain is diconnected from your central nervous system you don't feel a thing...let alone think, its like being paralyzed

 

I mean I totaly agree with animal testing and how cruetly laws should be enforced to an extent. But as for eating animals some body has to do it to keep population at a distance.

 

 

Not that im calling you crazy or anything thats just how i feel about that

Compeletely agreed.

Ok. I just want to point out that our bodies are not born ready to eat meat, are bodies are not able to digest it, the 'ability' to eat meat is required.

 

It will take 5 mintutes of your time to read this.

http://www.peta.org/about/faq-veg.asp

Read it, and watched the video's. I can understand the vegitarian way, but Vegen's goin a little crazy. Whatever floats your boat though Taylor... I personally see many sides to the age old argument of whether being a vegitarian is better for you or the enviroment, and the animal population in general.

 

I for one, don't really care either way what anyone is, I eat meat though, and I really enjoy it. =/

You gave me your links defending your POV and so I shall give you mine. http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sponsor

 

And I hate this bullshit that PETA feeds hippies, about how the mammals we eat are intelligent. Cows are not intelligent, and even if they were, I don't know how intelligence is a notion determining whether or not something should be eaten.

 

What follows is a diary of a cow on a cattle ranch. The dairy documents every day the cow lived, but since many of the days contain similar activities, only relevant excerpts are shown here:

 

JUNE 5, 1989:

I stood around in a field today.

 

APRIL 12, 1983:

I chewed the grass too deep and accidentally swallowed a rock. I sure am a dumb animal.

 

APRIL 25, 1998:

It rained this afternoon while we were out in the field. There was a small tin roof coverinig a portion of the field, but we're too fucking stupid to eat under its cover. Instead, we opted to stand in the pouring rain and emit loud moos every time we heard thunder because loud natural sounds that we've heard all our lives still frighten us.

 

MARCH 16, 2002

I spelled the word "intangable" wrong in this sentence.

 

JULY 9, 2003

It's my birthday today. A couple of guys from the field chipped in and got me dirt.

 

DECEMBER 22, 2005

I sure wish I could be eaten.

You gave me your links defending your POV and so I shall give you mine. http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sponsor

 

And I hate this bullshit that PETA feeds hippies, about how the mammals we eat are intelligent. Cows are not intelligent, and even if they were, I don't know how intelligence is a notion determining whether or not something should be eaten.

 

What follows is a diary of a cow on a cattle ranch. The dairy documents every day the cow lived, but since many of the days contain similar activities, only relevant excerpts are shown here:

 

JUNE 5, 1989:

I stood around in a field today.

 

APRIL 12, 1983:

I chewed the grass too deep and accidentally swallowed a rock. I sure am a dumb animal.

 

APRIL 25, 1998:

It rained this afternoon while we were out in the field. There was a small tin roof coverinig a portion of the field, but we're too fucking stupid to eat under its cover. Instead, we opted to stand in the pouring rain and emit loud moos every time we heard thunder because loud natural sounds that we've heard all our lives still frighten us.

 

MARCH 16, 2002

I spelled the word "intangable" wrong in this sentence.

 

JULY 9, 2003

It's my birthday today. A couple of guys from the field chipped in and got me dirt.

 

DECEMBER 22, 2005

I sure wish I could be eaten.

 

Wow, that was really mean, but so fucking hillarious... hahahaha.

 

But sense Taylor's my home girl, SHAME ON YOU!!!!

Sorry, but I've never bought into it and I never will. I have yet to hear good reasons of why I should become a vegetarian/vegan that are more then just conjecture.

Until that day comes, I will be eating my meats.

I'm tying to be vegetarian right now...because I made a deal with Sygy...she won't smoke if I don't eat meat...so we both do something for our health I guess...let's see who lasts longer...

Vegeatarianism though respectable can damage ur diet as u get a lack of protein and rouffage resulting in weaker muscles (the heart being a muscle) and increased healing times in damages, of course eating meat especially red meat is bad for ur health. Vegan is one huge step to take as u will be cutting ALOT of neccestites out of ur diet such as calcium and u wont be able to take some medication IE capsuels as they are often made from cow hooves.

 

A better approac I believe then beccoming vegan is by buying eggs, milk, cheese, etc. from free range providers where the Animals live fulfilling happy lives.

wow

personally, with no disrespect i think being a vegan is stretching it a bit far 0.o thats just me

i watch something on tv to with it and this woman was getting interviewed about how she was a vegan and i realleh didnt aggree with most of what was said...lots red meat is bad for yoo yesh, but anything in large quantities is...also to not be a meat eater isnt totally natural is it...if being a vegetarian is so natural why do yoo have to supply yoor body with vitaims via pills

i dunno

personally i couldnt do it

 

and question...if yoo cant eat any animal products can yoo drink milk, eat chocolate, wear cotton/wool...etc

No chocolate unless its 100% cocoa oooo that would be bitter stuff lol but dark chocolate is good for u yeap yea or have Soya Milk choc bars do they exist I dunno *shrugs*

 

We have got teeth designed to cut flesh n stuff n we hunted animals for hundereds of thousands of years etc etc. BUT I dont disagree with Vegetarianism at all and alot of things are true and sometimes I do feel a lil bad bout gourging on a chicken I mean I wouldnt want to be eaten, btw Azem Sharks think us huimans tasted disgusting, it's why so many people survive n they take a bite n go ewwww n leave us be haha.

 

Cows have no survival instinct *shrugs* they dont run away they are white and black and live on a green field they is like totally not camflauged and they also cant run properly

arr righteh...wow thatd be rich >.<

thankies mattleh

i totaly agree with Taylor. the difference between eating plants and animals is that animals have a much higher level of consciousness (sp?) . and they can like sense when there about to die. also, humans arnt 100% dependant on meat to survive we can live perfectically well without it so its a little bit selfish to make animals give uo there lives for something we dont need.

and jeezy you better not have eaten any meat bc i havnt been smoking lol

ha, im trying my hardest to stick with this "no meat" thing. not because i think it's cruel to kill an animal or whatever. jesus christ, if we didnt, there would be WAY more of them then there is of us. and the world would not be a happy place. so i agree that people should definitely eat meat. the ONLY reason im doing it, is because of the challenge. i want to discipline myself to do something. and this guy and me opted to.. not eat meat. well, besides fish because, well, i fucking love fish. haha.. so that's the only reason im trying this thing.. i hope i can do it.

 

 

that, and hot dogs are fucking gross.

i used to be a vegi when i was younger but i'm not now. i don't believe in testing on animals as i think its unfair, i shop at the body shop for my make up etc...

Let's break somethings down. If everyone ate plant's and plants became a main source. A dependance. We stopped breeding chickens, cows, pigs ect. We give animals their supposed "rights". Ok then something happens. Let's say an international drought. Plant's, trees, greens in general start dieing out. I suppose we are screwed right? Becuase we won't have enough meat to spread let alone since everyone is a vegan/veggie they'll be like oh its inhumane and all this sissy shit so we are forced to ration plants ect. We can't have that happen. Now if meat is infected and what not we can always turn to plants I mean it wont be as good but hell we can survive.

 

Im bored so i just put together a half assed conclusion

Whatever guys. We all have our own opinions, so it's all good.

Lol.

Not trying to shove anything down your throat just saying.