Video Killed the Internet Star

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CNN
NEW YORK (AP) -- In 1995, the first warning was raised: The throngs of
people swarming to the Internet would overwhelm the system in 1996.
For more than a decade, that fear has proven untrue.

Until right about now. The growing popularity of video on the Net has
driven a traffic increase that's putting strains on service providers,
particularly cable companies. To deal with it, they have had to change
the way they convey Internet data.

And they've done this in secret, raising concerns -- by Web companies,
consumer groups and the chairman of the Federal Communications
Commission -- that the nature of the Internet is being altered in ways
that are difficult to divine.

But as traffic grows, there are signs that these subtle and secret
controls are insufficient, and will give way to more overt measures.
For instance, we could find ourselves paying not just for the speed of
our connection, but for how much we download. Already, some ISPs are
hindering file-sharing traffic, and AT&T Inc. is talking about
blocking pirated content.

The issue is coming to a head this year, as the FCC is investigating
complaints from consumer groups and legal scholars that Comcast Corp.,
the country's largest cable ISP, secretly hampered file sharing by its
subscribers. File sharing, which allows Internet users to download
movies, music and software among each other with software like
BitTorrent and KaZaa, has been a haven for piracy, though legal uses
are proliferating as well.

By interfering with traffic, the groups said, Comcast is determining
what will and won't work, violating the Internet's unwritten tradition
of "net neutrality" -- the principle that traffic be treated equally.

The FCC has adopted a broad policy that Internet service providers
can't block specific applications. But its interpretation of that
statement is not clear, because it hasn't had to rule on a similar
case. Crucially, the policy makes an exemption for "reasonable traffic
management," which Comcast says its practices fall under.

The FCC case will be closely watched by ISPs, because it appears that
most of them use some kind of traffic management, slowing down less
time-sensitive traffic, like file sharing, to keep Web surfing snappy.
Whereas earlier doom scenarios for the Internet mostly concerned the
"highways" that move traffic around the country, the chokepoints that
are appearing are actually close to our homes. It's your neighbors
that are the problem.

- - - - -

Well ... it's actually been pretty impressive - how
long technological fixes could keep up with net access
and bandwidth demands. Alas those demands keep growing
faster than the fixes can fix, so there had to be a
point where supply would fall behind demand.

Seems that's NOW.

The other day I happened across a webcam showing what
looked to be a kind of 'internet cafe' in Budapest.
A couple-dozen people were in the field of view. While
you couldn't see exactly what was on their screens
you COULD tell that every single one was watching
videos. No doubt this scene is replicated in umteen
million businesses and homes across the world. There's
surely a bunch of guys in outer Mongolia watching
porn movies from a server in Los Angeles.

There's a limit.

Yes, that limit IS being pushed back - but not FAST
enough anymore. Com links and servers are overloaded
and ISPs have to make certain choices about WHAT
to keep ultra-fast and what to slow down or eliminate.
They may also consider HOW to make these choices ...
for everybody all of the time - or maybe they could
reduce traffic by charging a premium price for full-
speed unlimited service.

Pay more, get more ... not exactly a new or unusual
business concept.

But then there's the OTHER side of "less" ... less WHAT ?
From the article, it sounds as if thinking is going beyond
just "less speed" and into the realm of "selective content".
That would mean that average users would get not only a
slower internet but a SMALLER internet.

Who decides what to make "smaller" ? What are their criteria
likely to be ? Whose servers and/or web pages and/or files
get disconnected from the mainstream ? What WON'T you get
to know, what WON'T you get to do ?

Will Homeland-S, the FCC and spooks get involved - try to
censor "ideologically undesireable content" ? Will big biz
act to censor anything they'd rather make money from ? Who
will whisper in their ears - Jerry Falwells ghost ? Holy
Huckabee ? Ultra-'left' ? Ultra-'right' ? The military ?
Your Mommy ?

A slower mainstream internet is an acceptable consequence
of extreme bandwidth demands ... but a smaller internet is
just NOT acceptable because that makes some people "more equal"
than others in terms of the information they can access and
the potential manipulation and abuse of content restrictions.
 
On Feb 13, 6:41 am, b...@barrk.net (B1ackwater) wrote:
> CNN
> NEW YORK (AP) -- In 1995, the first warning was raised: The throngs of
> people swarming to the Internet would overwhelm the system in 1996.
> For more than a decade, that fear has proven untrue.
>
> Until right about now. The growing popularity of video on the Net has
> driven a traffic increase that's putting strains on service providers,
> particularly cable companies. To deal with it, they have had to change
> the way they convey Internet data.
>
> And they've done this in secret, raising concerns -- by Web companies,
> consumer groups and the chairman of the Federal Communications
> Commission -- that the nature of the Internet is being altered in ways
> that are difficult to divine.
>
> But as traffic grows, there are signs that these subtle and secret
> controls are insufficient, and will give way to more overt measures.
> For instance, we could find ourselves paying not just for the speed of
> our connection, but for how much we download. Already, some ISPs are
> hindering file-sharing traffic, and AT&T Inc. is talking about
> blocking pirated content.
>
> The issue is coming to a head this year, as the FCC is investigating
> complaints from consumer groups and legal scholars that Comcast Corp.,
> the country's largest cable ISP, secretly hampered file sharing by its
> subscribers. File sharing, which allows Internet users to download
> movies, music and software among each other with software like
> BitTorrent and KaZaa, has been a haven for piracy, though legal uses
> are proliferating as well.
>
> By interfering with traffic, the groups said, Comcast is determining
> what will and won't work, violating the Internet's unwritten tradition
> of "net neutrality" -- the principle that traffic be treated equally.
>
> The FCC has adopted a broad policy that Internet service providers
> can't block specific applications. But its interpretation of that
> statement is not clear, because it hasn't had to rule on a similar
> case. Crucially, the policy makes an exemption for "reasonable traffic
> management," which Comcast says its practices fall under.
>
> The FCC case will be closely watched by ISPs, because it appears that
> most of them use some kind of traffic management, slowing down less
> time-sensitive traffic, like file sharing, to keep Web surfing snappy.
> Whereas earlier doom scenarios for the Internet mostly concerned the
> "highways" that move traffic around the country, the chokepoints that
> are appearing are actually close to our homes. It's your neighbors
> that are the problem.
>
> - - - - -
>
> Well ... it's actually been pretty impressive - how
> long technological fixes could keep up with net access
> and bandwidth demands. Alas those demands keep growing
> faster than the fixes can fix, so there had to be a
> point where supply would fall behind demand.
>
> Seems that's NOW.
>
> The other day I happened across a webcam showing what
> looked to be a kind of 'internet cafe' in Budapest.
> A couple-dozen people were in the field of view. While
> you couldn't see exactly what was on their screens
> you COULD tell that every single one was watching
> videos. No doubt this scene is replicated in umteen
> million businesses and homes across the world. There's
> surely a bunch of guys in outer Mongolia watching
> porn movies from a server in Los Angeles.
>
> There's a limit.
>
> Yes, that limit IS being pushed back - but not FAST
> enough anymore. Com links and servers are overloaded
> and ISPs have to make certain choices about WHAT
> to keep ultra-fast and what to slow down or eliminate.
> They may also consider HOW to make these choices ...
> for everybody all of the time - or maybe they could
> reduce traffic by charging a premium price for full-
> speed unlimited service.
>
> Pay more, get more ... not exactly a new or unusual
> business concept.
>
> But then there's the OTHER side of "less" ... less WHAT ?
> From the article, it sounds as if thinking is going beyond
> just "less speed" and into the realm of "selective content".
> That would mean that average users would get not only a
> slower internet but a SMALLER internet.
>
> Who decides what to make "smaller" ? What are their criteria
> likely to be ? Whose servers and/or web pages and/or files
> get disconnected from the mainstream ? What WON'T you get
> to know, what WON'T you get to do ?
>
> Will Homeland-S, the FCC and spooks get involved - try to
> censor "ideologically undesireable content" ? Will big biz
> act to censor anything they'd rather make money from ? Who
> will whisper in their ears - Jerry Falwells ghost ? Holy
> Huckabee ? Ultra-'left' ? Ultra-'right' ? The military ?
> Your Mommy ?
>
> A slower mainstream internet is an acceptable consequence
> of extreme bandwidth demands ... but a smaller internet is
> just NOT acceptable because that makes some people "more equal"
> than others in terms of the information they can access and
> the potential manipulation and abuse of content restrictions.


Interesting post.

The Internet represents a profoundly revolutionary
development, threatening both governments and dinosaur
behemoth corporations who became complacent with
forcing their profit making ways on a formerly
docile and passive public.

Also, the coming of the Internet soon smashed the Information monopoly
in many areas, freeing up tons of information
which drug companies, brokerage firms, doctors, the FDA,
and many many other organizations and institutions would rather you
NOT know. There was a time when one needed
to go to a stock brokers office or to the library to thumb through
ponderous tomes of Standard and Poor reports, as being almost the only
source of information, other than that worthless
poltical rag the Wall St. Journal, disguised as an "investment"
newspaper. There was a time when the deadly and dangerous
consequences of a new drug would NOT be known for months or years,
killing, maiming or sickening people until the FDA
eventually got around to questioning it, if ever.

The Internet changed all that but another dimension,
a dimension that is only now gradually coming to be realized as a
political dimension that is gradually dawning on people could be
considered a political entity - an entity without borders and
therefore without taxes, beyond censorship (though some countries have
tried, it is really just toribble!)

With the arrival of audio compression and tools, the music industry's
control over artists and creativity has been
BROKEN and a new generation of musicians and
musical creators will create and distribute their
art without the profit making parasites who
formerly infested the industry and are now slowly
being flushed out the symbolic anus by the inevitable
proliferation and utilization of the new tools and
methods.

A similar development is going to happen in the
area of video - and is happening right now.
The era of several large multi million dollar studios
monopolizing the movie world is slowly coming to
an end.

It was inevitable, therefore that some attempts
to control, exploit, parasitize or otherwise
interdict these developments, for example
the attempted slowing down and control
of file sharing, would occur. One way
of fighting back against these actions is
to first of all free yourself from that corrupt
incompetent, snoop and virus encouraging
operating system known as Microsoft
Windows, and switch to a more secure
system such as Linux. Microsoft
seems to retain lobbyists even in state
legislatures which seek to standardize
their proprietary formats of their
bloated bug ridden and slow office
software even for public documents
and these kinds of things
should be opposed at all turns
and the superiour open sourced
formats used instead.

Likewise, it is good to keep an eye
on the politicians and to speak out against
any attempt to tax the Internet. Unfortunately,
some companies have gone along with
countries that need to CENSOR the Internet
to preserve their uneasy political stability
but there ARE various means of circumventing
these puny and pathetic acts of desperation
which will only hasten the inevitable.

Just some thoughts.

Thanks
Citizen Jimserac
 
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:54:54 -0800 (PST), Citizen Jimserac
<Jimserac@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Feb 13, 6:41 am, b...@barrk.net (B1ackwater) wrote:
>> CNN
>> NEW YORK (AP) -- In 1995, the first warning was raised: The throngs of
>> people swarming to the Internet would overwhelm the system in 1996.
>> For more than a decade, that fear has proven untrue.
>>
>> Until right about now. The growing popularity of video on the Net has
>> driven a traffic increase that's putting strains on service providers,
>> particularly cable companies. To deal with it, they have had to change
>> the way they convey Internet data.
>>
>> And they've done this in secret, raising concerns -- by Web companies,
>> consumer groups and the chairman of the Federal Communications
>> Commission -- that the nature of the Internet is being altered in ways
>> that are difficult to divine.
>>
>> But as traffic grows, there are signs that these subtle and secret
>> controls are insufficient, and will give way to more overt measures.
>> For instance, we could find ourselves paying not just for the speed of
>> our connection, but for how much we download. Already, some ISPs are
>> hindering file-sharing traffic, and AT&T Inc. is talking about
>> blocking pirated content.
>>
>> The issue is coming to a head this year, as the FCC is investigating
>> complaints from consumer groups and legal scholars that Comcast Corp.,
>> the country's largest cable ISP, secretly hampered file sharing by its
>> subscribers. File sharing, which allows Internet users to download
>> movies, music and software among each other with software like
>> BitTorrent and KaZaa, has been a haven for piracy, though legal uses
>> are proliferating as well.
>>
>> By interfering with traffic, the groups said, Comcast is determining
>> what will and won't work, violating the Internet's unwritten tradition
>> of "net neutrality" -- the principle that traffic be treated equally.
>>
>> The FCC has adopted a broad policy that Internet service providers
>> can't block specific applications. But its interpretation of that
>> statement is not clear, because it hasn't had to rule on a similar
>> case. Crucially, the policy makes an exemption for "reasonable traffic
>> management," which Comcast says its practices fall under.
>>
>> The FCC case will be closely watched by ISPs, because it appears that
>> most of them use some kind of traffic management, slowing down less
>> time-sensitive traffic, like file sharing, to keep Web surfing snappy.
>> Whereas earlier doom scenarios for the Internet mostly concerned the
>> "highways" that move traffic around the country, the chokepoints that
>> are appearing are actually close to our homes. It's your neighbors
>> that are the problem.
>>
>> - - - - -
>>
>> Well ... it's actually been pretty impressive - how
>> long technological fixes could keep up with net access
>> and bandwidth demands. Alas those demands keep growing
>> faster than the fixes can fix, so there had to be a
>> point where supply would fall behind demand.
>>
>> Seems that's NOW.
>>
>> The other day I happened across a webcam showing what
>> looked to be a kind of 'internet cafe' in Budapest.
>> A couple-dozen people were in the field of view. While
>> you couldn't see exactly what was on their screens
>> you COULD tell that every single one was watching
>> videos. No doubt this scene is replicated in umteen
>> million businesses and homes across the world. There's
>> surely a bunch of guys in outer Mongolia watching
>> porn movies from a server in Los Angeles.
>>
>> There's a limit.
>>
>> Yes, that limit IS being pushed back - but not FAST
>> enough anymore. Com links and servers are overloaded
>> and ISPs have to make certain choices about WHAT
>> to keep ultra-fast and what to slow down or eliminate.
>> They may also consider HOW to make these choices ...
>> for everybody all of the time - or maybe they could
>> reduce traffic by charging a premium price for full-
>> speed unlimited service.
>>
>> Pay more, get more ... not exactly a new or unusual
>> business concept.
>>
>> But then there's the OTHER side of "less" ... less WHAT ?
>> From the article, it sounds as if thinking is going beyond
>> just "less speed" and into the realm of "selective content".
>> That would mean that average users would get not only a
>> slower internet but a SMALLER internet.
>>
>> Who decides what to make "smaller" ? What are their criteria
>> likely to be ? Whose servers and/or web pages and/or files
>> get disconnected from the mainstream ? What WON'T you get
>> to know, what WON'T you get to do ?
>>
>> Will Homeland-S, the FCC and spooks get involved - try to
>> censor "ideologically undesireable content" ? Will big biz
>> act to censor anything they'd rather make money from ? Who
>> will whisper in their ears - Jerry Falwells ghost ? Holy
>> Huckabee ? Ultra-'left' ? Ultra-'right' ? The military ?
>> Your Mommy ?
>>
>> A slower mainstream internet is an acceptable consequence
>> of extreme bandwidth demands ... but a smaller internet is
>> just NOT acceptable because that makes some people "more equal"
>> than others in terms of the information they can access and
>> the potential manipulation and abuse of content restrictions.

>
>Interesting post.
>
>The Internet represents a profoundly revolutionary
>development, threatening both governments and dinosaur
>behemoth corporations who became complacent with
>forcing their profit making ways on a formerly
>docile and passive public.
>
>Also, the coming of the Internet soon smashed the Information monopoly
>in many areas, freeing up tons of information
>which drug companies, brokerage firms, doctors, the FDA,
>and many many other organizations and institutions would rather you
>NOT know. There was a time when one needed
>to go to a stock brokers office or to the library to thumb through
>ponderous tomes of Standard and Poor reports, as being almost the only
>source of information, other than that worthless
>poltical rag the Wall St. Journal, disguised as an "investment"
>newspaper. There was a time when the deadly and dangerous
>consequences of a new drug would NOT be known for months or years,
>killing, maiming or sickening people until the FDA
>eventually got around to questioning it, if ever.
>
>The Internet changed all that but another dimension,
>a dimension that is only now gradually coming to be realized as a
>political dimension that is gradually dawning on people could be
>considered a political entity - an entity without borders and
>therefore without taxes, beyond censorship (though some countries have
>tried, it is really just toribble!)
>
>With the arrival of audio compression and tools, the music industry's
>control over artists and creativity has been
>BROKEN and a new generation of musicians and
>musical creators will create and distribute their
>art without the profit making parasites who
>formerly infested the industry and are now slowly
>being flushed out the symbolic anus by the inevitable
>proliferation and utilization of the new tools and
>methods.
>
>A similar development is going to happen in the
>area of video - and is happening right now.
>The era of several large multi million dollar studios
>monopolizing the movie world is slowly coming to
>an end.
>
>It was inevitable, therefore that some attempts
>to control, exploit, parasitize or otherwise
>interdict these developments, for example
>the attempted slowing down and control
>of file sharing, would occur. One way
>of fighting back against these actions is
>to first of all free yourself from that corrupt
>incompetent, snoop and virus encouraging
>operating system known as Microsoft
>Windows, and switch to a more secure
>system such as Linux. Microsoft
>seems to retain lobbyists even in state
>legislatures which seek to standardize
>their proprietary formats of their
>bloated bug ridden and slow office
>software even for public documents
>and these kinds of things
>should be opposed at all turns
>and the superiour open sourced
>formats used instead.
>
>Likewise, it is good to keep an eye
>on the politicians and to speak out against
>any attempt to tax the Internet. Unfortunately,
>some companies have gone along with
>countries that need to CENSOR the Internet
>to preserve their uneasy political stability
>but there ARE various means of circumventing
>these puny and pathetic acts of desperation
>which will only hasten the inevitable.
>
>Just some thoughts.



"Bandwidth conservation" is an ideal umbrella under
which to introduce censorship - and one which will
be difficult to detect at times. Government and
corporate interests can be furthered by 'invisible'
net censorship. Those interests often reflect the
interests of specific pressure groups whose aims
may seem laudable to those who do not see
censorship as a great and dangerous evil in and
of itself.

The most likely offenders will be theocratic interests,
especially American fundamentalist 'christian' and arabic
'islamist' entities but we may also see efforts by groups
such as the ADL, PETA, various anti-racist/sexist/business/
evolution/you-name-it groups plus gay/hispanic/you-name-it
rights organizations involved. They all have a history of
trying to block competing "messages" - and some definitely
have enough influence over the political apparatus to have
their way. There's even the possibility that individual ISPs
could be intimidated.

Censorship is the assassination of IDEAS, enforced ignorance,
a de-facto propaganda technique. It is a shield for tyrants,
scoundrels, thieves and profiteers. Without information it
is impossible to make logical choices, or even be aware that
there ARE alternative choices. The hold government entities
have on the 'traditional' information media - especially
TV and radio - has been put to many an evil end. The hold
corporate/financial entities have over those same media
plus much of the print media is constantly used to hype,
color, disguise and mislead. Censorship is a BAD THING,
far worse in far more ways than what it conceals.

The internet is by far the freest mass communications system
we have. Over the past decade we've seen that no end of
powerful interests just can't STAND that. Information control
means people control and profit control and those with power
inevitibly want even MORE power.
 
On Feb 13, 4:13 pm, b...@barrk.net (B1ackwater) wrote:

>
> The internet is by far the freest mass communications system
> we have. Over the past decade we've seen that no end of
> powerful interests just can't STAND that. Information control
> means people control and profit control and those with power
> inevitibly want even MORE power.


Well said.

Keep an eye out for open source projects which
help to block or bypass net censorship
and projects such as tor which help to
encrypt and block snoopers, starting with
your Internet provider, from tracking every
web site you visit.

Citizen Jimserac
 
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:20:49 -0800 (PST), Citizen Jimserac
<Jimserac@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Feb 13, 4:13 pm, b...@barrk.net (B1ackwater) wrote:
>
>>
>> The internet is by far the freest mass communications system
>> we have. Over the past decade we've seen that no end of
>> powerful interests just can't STAND that. Information control
>> means people control and profit control and those with power
>> inevitibly want even MORE power.

>
>Well said.
>
>Keep an eye out for open source projects which
>help to block or bypass net censorship
>and projects such as tor which help to
>encrypt and block snoopers, starting with
>your Internet provider, from tracking every
>web site you visit.



The search engines are bad enough already ... bending
over backwards not only for our homegrown spooks but
Chinas spooks as well.

The implementation of 'onion' servers - anonymous
repeaters - needs to be refined. The only half-assed
way to keep the spooky people from minding your biz
is to strip identifying info off your data packets
as early on as possible and then bounce 'em through
a maze of other anonymizing, encrypting servers. Not
perfect protection, but it will make the spooks
concentrate their efforts on important troublemakers
instead of casting their nets wide looking for
"something" in every Joe Averages traffic.

The big weakness is at your friendly ISP. That's
the first link between you and the rest of the
net and most ISPs are big enough to be run by
people far more interested in profits and smooth
sailing than in antiquated ideals like "rights",
"freedom" and "privacy". A speck of spooky
pressure at the ISP level and your every byte
will be recorded and e-mailed to big govt
word/phrase/pattern-matching computers for
automated analysis.

Encryption between individuals can work, but not
for general 'surfing' activity or with those who
provide big services like 'Facebook'. Of note,
the UK has, or is about to, pass legislation
which bans the use of data encryption unless
the government is given the back-door keys.
The rule applies even to individuals, not just
large service providers. Even banks and hospitals
will have to let the govt scrutinize their records.
As usual, the Brits have silently dropped their
drawers for this bit of Big Brotherism.

How long until the USA adopts the same sort of rules ?
How many Americans will also drop their drawers with
little or no complaint ? After all, only the GUILTY
need privacy ....
 
On Feb 14, 5:07 pm, b...@barrk.net (B1ackwater) wrote:

> The big weakness is at your friendly ISP. That's
> the first link between you and the rest of the
> net and most ISPs are big enough to be run by
> people far more interested in profits and smooth
> sailing than in antiquated ideals like "rights",
> "freedom" and "privacy". A speck of spooky
> pressure at the ISP level and your every byte
> will be recorded and e-mailed to big govt
> word/phrase/pattern-matching computers for
> automated analysis.
>

Correct me if I err but I believe TOR ENCRYPTS
your Internet data right on your computer, then
sends the encrypted data to the anonymizing servers.
On the return trip, the data arrives at your computer
encrypted and is then decrypted. It can be broken
of course, and does not provide perfect anonymity but
to break it takes work and that spoils profits.
Not something the ISP likes doing.

Citizen Jimserac
 
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 04:25:08 -0800 (PST), Citizen Jimserac
<Jimserac@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Feb 14, 5:07 pm, b...@barrk.net (B1ackwater) wrote:
>
>> The big weakness is at your friendly ISP. That's
>> the first link between you and the rest of the
>> net and most ISPs are big enough to be run by
>> people far more interested in profits and smooth
>> sailing than in antiquated ideals like "rights",
>> "freedom" and "privacy". A speck of spooky
>> pressure at the ISP level and your every byte
>> will be recorded and e-mailed to big govt
>> word/phrase/pattern-matching computers for
>> automated analysis.
>>

>Correct me if I err but I believe TOR ENCRYPTS
>your Internet data right on your computer, then
>sends the encrypted data to the anonymizing servers.
>On the return trip, the data arrives at your computer
>encrypted and is then decrypted. It can be broken
>of course, and does not provide perfect anonymity but
>to break it takes work and that spoils profits.
>Not something the ISP likes doing.
>
>Citizen Jimserac



Problem ... all those other computers you're accessing
at the far end of that chain ... they'd have to have
the decrypting key. There are some forms of cryptography
that might be tweaked to work seamlessly and invisibly
with web pages and such but I fear it would be wishy-washy
enough that Big Bro would have an easy time mass-decrypting
everyones traffic. Any time you buy from a 'secure' web
site you're employing such a system. Good as a deterrent
to casual thieves, but would it stop the spooks ? I doubt it.

OR, in the interests of national security, public safety
and the greater glory of someones gawd - Big Bro can do
exactly what his British cousin did - make it outrightly
ILLEGAL to employ encryption systems the govt doesn't have
keys for.
 
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