"We Are Going To Hit Iran. Bigtime" (for Israel, of course!)

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"We Are Going To Hit Iran. Bigtime"
by Maccabee
Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 03:50:24 PM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/9/1/183018/1527

I have a friend who is an LSO on a carrier attack group that is
planning and staging a strike group deployment into the Gulf of
Hormuz. (LSO: Landing Signal Officer- she directs carrier aircraft
while landing) She told me we are going to attack Iran. She said that
all the Air Operation Planning and Asset Tasking are finished. That
means that all the targets have been chosen, prioritized, and tasked
to specific aircraft, bases, carriers, missile cruisers and so forth.
I asked her why she is telling me this.
Her answer was really amazing.
Maccabee's diary :: ::
She started in the Marines and after 8 years her term was up. She had
served on a smaller Marine carrier, and found out through a friend
knew there was an opening for a junior grade LSO in a training
position on a supercarrier. She used the reference and the information
and applied for a transfer to the United States Navy. Since she had
experience landing F-18Cs and Cobra Gunships, and an unblemished
combat record, she was ratcheted into the job, successfully changing
from the Marines to the Navy. Her role is still aligned with the
Marines since she generally is assigned to liason with the Marine
units deploying off her carrier group.
Like most Marines and former Marines, she is largely apolitical. The
fact is, most Marines are trigger pullers and most trigger pullers
could care less who the President is. They simply want to be the tip
of the sword when it comes to defending the country. She voted once in
her life and otherwise was always in some forward post on the water
during election season.
Something is wrong with the Navy and the Marines in her view. Always
ready to go in harms way, Marines rarely ever question unless it's a
matter of tactics or honor. But something seems awry. Junior and
senior officers are starting to grumble, roll their eyes in the
hallways. The strain of deployments is beginning to hit every jot and
tittle of the Marines and it's beginning to seep into the daily
conversation of Marines and Naval officers in command decision.
"I know this will sound crazy coming from a Naval officer", she said.
"But we're all just waiting for this administration to end. Things
that happen at the senior officer level seem more and more to happen
outside of the purview of XOs and other officers who typically have a
say-so in daily combat and flight operations. Today, orders just come
down from the mountaintop and there's no questioning. In fact, there
is no discussing it. I have seen more than one senior commander
disappear and then three weeks later we find out that he has been
replaced. That's really weird. It's also really weird because everyone
who has disappeared has questioned whether or not we should be staging
a massive attack on Iran."
"We're not stupid. Most of the members of the fleet read well enough
to know what is going on world-wise. We also realize that anyone who
has any doubts is in danger of having a long military career yanked
out from under them. Keep in mind that most of the people I serve with
are happy to be a part of the global war on terror. It's just that the
touch points are what we see since we are the ones out here who are
supposedly implementing this grand strategy. But when you liason with
administration officials who don't know that Iranians don't speak
Arabic and have no idea what Iranians live like, then you start having
second thoughts about whether these Administration officials are even
competent."
I asked her about the attack, how limited and so forth.
"I don't think it's limited at all. We are shipping in and assigning
every damn Tomahawk we have in inventory. I think this is going to be
massive and sudden, like thousands of targets. I believe that no
American will know when it happens until after it happens. And
whatever the consequences, whatever the consequences, they will have
to be lived with. I am sure if my father knew I was telling someone in
a news organization that we were about to launch a supposedly secret
attack that it would be treason. But something inside me tells me to
tell it anyway."
I asked her why she was suddenly so cynical.
"I have become cynical only recently. I also don't believe anyone will
be able to stop this. Bush has become something of an Emperor. He
will give the command, and cruise missiles will fly and aircraft will
fly and people will die, and yet few of us here are really able to
cobble together a great explanation of why this is a good idea. Of
course many of us can give you the 4H Club lecture on democracy in the
Mid East. But if you asked any of the flight officers whether they
have a clear idea of what the goal of this strike is, your answer
would sound like something out of a think tank policy paper. But it's
not like Kosovo or when we relieved the tsunami victims. There
everyone could tell you in a sentence what we were here doing."
"That's what's missing. A real sense of purpose. What's missing is the
answer to what the hell are we doing out here threatening this country
with all this power? Last night in the galley, an ensign asked what
right do we have to tell a sovereign nation that they can't build a
nuke. I mean the table got EF Hutton quiet. Not so much because the
man was asking a question that was off culture. But that he was asking
a good question. In fact, the discussion actually followed afterwards
topside where someone in our group had to smoke a cigarette. The
discussion was intelligent but also in lowered voices. It's like we
aren't allowed to ask the questions that we always ask before combat.
It's almost as if the average seaman or soldier is doing all the
policy work."
She had to hang up. She left by telling me that she believes the
attack is a done deal. "It's only a matter of time before their orders
come and they will be sent to station and told to go to Red Alert. She
said they were already practicing traps, FARP and FAST." (Trapping is
the act of catching the tension wires when landing on the carrier,
FARP is Fleet Air Combat Maneuvering Readiness Program- practice
dogfighting- and FAST is Fleet Air Superiority Training).
She seemed lost. The first time in my life I have ever heard her sound
off rhythm, or unsure of why she is doing something. She knows that
there is something rotten in the Naval Command and she, like many of
her associates are just hoping that the election brings in someone
new, some new situation, or something.
"Yes. We're gong to hit Iran, bigtime. Whatever political discussion
that are going in is window dressing and perhaps even a red herring. I
see what's going on below deck here in the hangars and weapons bays.
And I have a sick feeling about how it's all going to turn out."

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Iran: Uranium centrifuge goal reached
34 minutes ago
Iran has reached its long-sought goal of running 3,000 centrifuges to
enrich uranium for its nuclear program, Iranian President Mahmoud
Ahmadinejad announced Sunday, in a report on state media.
The U.N. Security Council had threatened a third round of sanctions
against the country if it did not freeze the uranium enrichment
program - which Iran maintains is for peaceful energy purposes, but
the U.S. says is to hide a weapons program.
"The West thought the Iranian nation would give in after just a
resolution, but now we have taken another step in the nuclear progress
and launched more than 3,000 centrifuge machines, installing a new
cascade every week," the state television Web site quoted Ahmadinejad
as saying.
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Pentagon 'three-day blitz' plan for Iran
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article2369001.ece
September 2, 2007
Pentagon 'three-day blitz' plan for IranSarah Baxter, Washington
THE Pentagon has drawn up plans for massive airstrikes against 1,200
targets in Iran, designed to annihilate the Iranians' military
capability in three days, according to a national security expert.
Alexis Debat, director of terrorism and national security at the Nixon
Center, said last week that US military planners were not preparing
for "pinprick strikes" against Iran's nuclear facilities. "They're
about taking out the entire Iranian military," he said.
Debat was speaking at a meeting organised by The National Interest, a
conservative foreign policy journal. He told The Sunday Times that the
US military had concluded: "Whether you go for pinprick strikes or all-
out military action, the reaction from the Iranians will be the same."
It was, he added, a "very legitimate strategic calculus".
President George Bush intensified the rhetoric against Iran last week,
accusing Tehran of putting the Middle East "under the shadow of a
nuclear holocaust". He warned that the US and its allies would
confront Iran "before it is too late".
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One Washington source said the "temperature was rising" inside the
administration. Bush was "sending a message to a number of audiences",
he said ? to the Iranians and to members of the United Nations
security council who are trying to weaken a tough third resolution on
sanctions against Iran for flouting a UN ban on uranium enrichment.
The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) last week reported
"significant" cooperation with Iran over its nuclear programme and
said that uranium enrichment had slowed. Tehran has promised to answer
most questions from the agency by November, but Washington fears it is
stalling to prevent further sanctions. Iran continues to maintain it
is merely developing civilian nuclear power.
Bush is committed for now to the diplomatic route but thinks Iran is
moving towards acquiring a nuclear weapon. According to one well
placed source, Washington believes it would be prudent to use rapid,
overwhelming force, should military action become necessary.
Israel, which has warned it will not allow Iran to acquire nuclear
weapons, has made its own preparations for airstrikes and is said to
be ready to attack if the Americans back down.
Alireza Jafarzadeh, a spokesman for the National Council of Resistance
of Iran, which uncovered the existence of Iran's uranium enrichment
plant at Natanz, said the IAEA was being strung along. "A number of
nuclear sites have not even been visited by the IAEA," he said.
"They're giving a clean bill of health to a regime that is known to
have practised deception."
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president, irritated the Bush
administration last week by vowing to fill a "power vacuum" in Iraq.
But Washington believes Iran is already fighting a proxy war with the
Americans in Iraq.
The Institute for the Study of War last week released a report by
Kimberly Kagan that explicitly uses the term "proxy war" and claims
that with the Sunni insurgency and Al-Qaeda in Iraq "increasingly
under control", Iranian intervention is the "next major problem the
coalition must tackle".
Bush noted that the number of attacks on US bases and troops by
Iranian-supplied munitions had increased in recent months ? "despite
pledges by Iran to help stabilise the security situation in Iraq".
It explains, in part, his lack of faith in diplomacy with the
Iranians. But Debat believes the Pentagon's plans for military action
involve the use of so much force that they are unlikely to be used and
would seriously stretch resources in Afghanistan and Iraq.

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Showdown Over Iran
We can stop the coming war with Iran - but concerned Americans must
act quickly:

http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=11534
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Attacking Iran Would be Madness and a Capital Crime:

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/node/9631

Do We Have the Courage to Stop War with Iran?:

http://counterpunch.org/mcgovern08312007.html

Jewish Leaders Caught In Iran Bind
As Walt-Mearscheimer book appears, efforts to keep military option
open run counter to national mood

http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=14460

Will George Bush Bomb Iran?:

http://tinyurl.com/2bojvn

http://nomorewarforisrael.blogspot.com

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New book challenges US support for Israel
NEW YORK: An upcoming book challenging whether diplomatic and military
support for Israel is in the best interests of the United States is
set to spark fresh debate on Washington's role in the Middle East.
"The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy," written by two of the United
States' most influential political science professors, is set to hit
the bookshelves next Tuesday and promises to break the taboo on the
subject. Written by John Mearsheimer from the University of Chicago
and Stephen Walt from Harvard, the book follows an article they
published last year that stirred impassioned debate by setting out a
similar position.
Their thesis is that US endorsement of Israel is not fully explained
by strategic or moral reasons, but by the pressure exerted by Jewish
lobbyists, Christian fundamentalists and neo-conservatives with
Zionist sympathies.
The result, according to the book, is an unbalanced US foreign policy
in the Middle East, the US invasion of Iraq, the threat of war with
Iran or Syria and a fragile security situation for the entire Western
world. "Israel is not the strategic asset to the United States that
many claim. Israel may have been a strategic asset during the Cold
War, but it has become a growing liability now that the Cold War is
over," the authors said.
"Unconditional support for Israel has reinforced anti-Americanism
around the world, helped fuel America's terrorism problem, and
strained relations with other key allies in Europe, the Middle East,
and Asia," they added.
According to the two writers, "backing Israel's harsh treatment of the
Palestinians has reinforced Anti-Americanism around the world and
almost certainly helped terrorists recruit new followers."
Abraham Foxman, director of the Anti-Defamation League, described the
book as "an insidious, biased account of the Arab-Israeli conflict and
of the role of supporters of Israel in the US," in an interview with
AFP.
"Everything about American policy toward the conflict is presented in
exaggerated form, as if America is completely one-sided in support of
Israel and that those policies are simply the product of the Israel
lobby." He is countering Mearsheimer and Walt's book with his own
title: "The Deadliest Lies: The Israel Lobby and the Myth of Jewish
Control," due out on the same day.
Mearsheimer and Walt highlight the three billion dollars in US
economic and military aid that Israel receives every year - more than
any other country. They also point to Washington's diplomatic support:
between 1972 and 2006, the United States vetoed 42 United Nations
Security Council resolutions that were critical of Israel, while
watering down many others under threat of veto. Foxman counters that
the special relationship works both ways and that the United States
has gained much out of its ally.
The Chicago Council on Global Affairs canceled a public debate on the
issue planned for September and featuring Mearsheimer and Walt when
they were unable to schedule a time that Foxman could also manage.
In the conclusion of their book, Mearsheimer and Walt say that the
United States must change its policy towards Israel. "The United
States would be a better ally if its leaders could make support for
Israel more conditional and if they could give their Israeli
counterparts more candid advice without facing a backlash from the
Israel lobby." With just over a year until the 2008 US presidential
election, however, they said the issue was unlikely to even enter the
debate. afp
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Walt & Mearsheimer's Proof That 'Tail Wagged the Dog' Points American
Jews to a Universalist Ethos:

http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2007/09/more-on-walt-me.html
 
NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL@yahoo.com wrote:

> "We Are Going To Hit Iran. Bigtime"
> by Maccabee
> Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 03:50:24 PM PDT
> http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/9/1/183018/1527
>
> I have a friend who is an LSO on a carrier attack group that is
> planning and staging a strike group deployment into the Gulf of
> Hormuz. (LSO: Landing Signal Officer- she directs carrier aircraft
> while landing) She told me we are going to attack Iran. She said that
> all the Air Operation Planning and Asset Tasking are finished. That
> means that all the targets have been chosen, prioritized, and tasked
> to specific aircraft, bases, carriers, missile cruisers and so forth.
> I asked her why she is telling me this.


I just posted an excerpt from the same diary. It seems AWOL Bush is going to
have us lob all those missles and bombs, but has no plans for what happens
after that. I bet the neocons haven't imagined Iran hitting us back, closing
the Strait of Hormuz, hitting the Green Zone, the Baghdad airport, or bombing
the Road from Kuwait in retaliation.

Iran is not a threat to the United States. AWOL Bush has no proof that Iranians
are attacking Americans in Iraq. AWOL Bush has no proof that Iran even has a
nuclear weapons program. It's all smoke and mirrors, just like last time. If
Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz, the price of oil will quickly double -- and
that means huge profits for big oil -- just one of the many benefits to the
millionaire class of Republicans which back these horrible wars.


--
There are only two kinds of Republicans: Millionaires and fools.
 
On Sep 2, 10:51 am, GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia
<g...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> NOMOREWAR_FORISR...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > "We Are Going To Hit Iran. Bigtime"
> > by Maccabee
> > Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 03:50:24 PM PDT
> >http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/9/1/183018/1527

>
> > I have a friend who is an LSO on a carrier attack group that is
> > planning and staging a strike group deployment into the Gulf of
> > Hormuz. (LSO: Landing Signal Officer- she directs carrier aircraft
> > while landing) She told me we are going to attack Iran. She said that
> > all the Air Operation Planning and Asset Tasking are finished. That
> > means that all the targets have been chosen, prioritized, and tasked
> > to specific aircraft, bases, carriers, missile cruisers and so forth.
> > I asked her why she is telling me this.

>
> I just posted an excerpt from the same diary. It seems AWOL Bush is going to
> have us lob all those missles and bombs, but has no plans for what happens
> after that. I bet the neocons haven't imagined Iran hitting us back, closing
> the Strait of Hormuz, hitting the Green Zone, the Baghdad airport, or bombing
> the Road from Kuwait in retaliation.
>
> Iran is not a threat to the United States. AWOL Bush has no proof that Iranians
> are attacking Americans in Iraq. AWOL Bush has no proof that Iran even has a
> nuclear weapons program. It's all smoke and mirrors, just like last time. If
> Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz, the price of oil will quickly double -- and
> that means huge profits for big oil -- just one of the many benefits to the
> millionaire class of Republicans which back these horrible wars.
>
> --
> There are only two kinds of Republicans: Millionaires and fools.


Actually, as opposed to trolling the democrats, I think they might be
trolling the neocons, and Israel.


They are a stupid bunch, no doubt about it, and any hit on Iran would
hasten Israel's destruction, which is what certain parties want.

But Bush's, ok, no, cheney's people are too dumb to see it, it's just
a troll man.

Which is fine. Certain parties want Israel destroyed, big oil, for
instance, because they blame Israel for mid east unrest, and Sharon
****ed up, BIGTIME, and some governments, because of Israel's tendency
to think it should direct the foreign policy of other nations. This is
a HUGE problem.

So, you know, do it.

Get it?

And catching the problems, and resolving them, diplomatically, can
save a nation.
 
On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:51:13 GMT, GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon
Utopia <gw@hotmail.com> wrote:

> NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> "We Are Going To Hit Iran. Bigtime"
>> by Maccabee
>> Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 03:50:24 PM PDT
>> http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/9/1/183018/1527
>>
>> I have a friend who is an LSO on a carrier attack group that is
>> planning and staging a strike group deployment into the Gulf of
>> Hormuz. (LSO: Landing Signal Officer- she directs carrier aircraft
>> while landing) She told me we are going to attack Iran. She said that
>> all the Air Operation Planning and Asset Tasking are finished. That
>> means that all the targets have been chosen, prioritized, and tasked
>> to specific aircraft, bases, carriers, missile cruisers and so forth.
>> I asked her why she is telling me this.

>
>I just posted an excerpt from the same diary. It seems AWOL Bush is going to
>have us lob all those missles and bombs, but has no plans for what happens
>after that. I bet the neocons haven't imagined Iran hitting us back, closing
>the Strait of Hormuz, hitting the Green Zone, the Baghdad airport, or bombing
>the Road from Kuwait in retaliation.
>
>Iran is not a threat to the United States. AWOL Bush has no proof that Iranians
>are attacking Americans in Iraq. AWOL Bush has no proof that Iran even has a
>nuclear weapons program. It's all smoke and mirrors, just like last time. If
>Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz, the price of oil will quickly double -- and
>that means huge profits for big oil -- just one of the many benefits to the
>millionaire class of Republicans which back these horrible wars.


Iran won't even need to close the Straits to make sure less oil flows
out of it - just firing or even threatening to fire on tankers
sailing through there will have the companies owning the tankers
pulling them out in a flash. Expect oil well over $100 for a barrel of
crude at minimum, and if they can blockade it then the prices will be
astronomical.
 
dumber than dogshit, aka Gen Charlie Troll wrote:
> On Sep 2, 10:51 am, GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia
> <g...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> NOMOREWAR_FORISR...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> "We Are Going To Hit Iran. Bigtime"
>>> by Maccabee
>>> Sat Sep 01, 2007 at 03:50:24 PM PDT
>>> http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/9/1/183018/1527
>>> I have a friend who is an LSO on a carrier attack group that is
>>> planning and staging a strike group deployment into the Gulf of
>>> Hormuz. (LSO: Landing Signal Officer- she directs carrier aircraft
>>> while landing) She told me we are going to attack Iran. She said that
>>> all the Air Operation Planning and Asset Tasking are finished. That
>>> means that all the targets have been chosen, prioritized, and tasked
>>> to specific aircraft, bases, carriers, missile cruisers and so forth.
>>> I asked her why she is telling me this.

>> I just posted an excerpt from the same diary. It seems AWOL Bush is going to
>> have us lob all those missles and bombs, but has no plans for what happens
>> after that. I bet the neocons haven't imagined Iran hitting us back, closing
>> the Strait of Hormuz, hitting the Green Zone, the Baghdad airport, or bombing
>> the Road from Kuwait in retaliation.
>>
>> Iran is not a threat to the United States. AWOL Bush has no proof that Iranians
>> are attacking Americans in Iraq. AWOL Bush has no proof that Iran even has a
>> nuclear weapons program. It's all smoke and mirrors, just like last time. If
>> Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz, the price of oil will quickly double -- and
>> that means huge profits for big oil -- just one of the many benefits to the
>> millionaire class of Republicans which back these horrible wars.
>>
>> --
>> There are only two kinds of Republicans: Millionaires and fools.

>
> Actually, as opposed to trolling the democrats, I think they might be
> trolling the neocons, and Israel.
>
>
> They are a stupid bunch, no doubt about it, and any hit on Iran would
> hasten Israel's destruction, which is what certain parties want.
>
> But Bush's, ok, no, cheney's people are too dumb to see it, it's just
> a troll man.
>
> Which is fine. Certain parties want Israel destroyed, big oil, for
> instance, because they blame Israel for mid east unrest, and Sharon
> ****ed up, BIGTIME, and some governments, because of Israel's tendency
> to think it should direct the foreign policy of other nations. This is
> a HUGE problem.
>
> So, you know, do it.
>
> Get it?
>
> And catching the problems, and resolving them, diplomatically, can
> save a nation.
>

If we strike Iran, Israel is TOAST. ...and it might mean WW III. king
georgie iv is hell-bent on our total destruction.
 
On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 13:40:57 -0700, The Pretzel
<pretzel@chokeonit.org> wrote:


>If we strike Iran, Israel is TOAST. ...


Israel would invoke the samson option on Iran before it got to that
point.
 
In article <lKCCi.66464$Xa3.8375@attbi_s22>,
GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia <gw@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I just posted an excerpt from the same diary. It seems AWOL Bush is going to
> have us lob all those missles and bombs, but has no plans for what happens
> after that. I bet the neocons haven't imagined Iran hitting us back, closing
> the Strait of Hormuz, hitting the Green Zone, the Baghdad airport, or bombing
> the Road from Kuwait in retaliation.
>

Yeah, I can betcha the outcome on this: the price of oil will skyrocket
and the oil companies will be laughing all the way to the bank (like
they're not doing that already).
But from my standpoint, if Dubya starts up this war on Iran, they should
remove his ass from the government faster than you can say "sorry
ignorant piece of ****".
--
"You can't fix stupid." -- Ron White
 
<NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1188754024.110564.91890@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> "We Are Going To Hit Iran. Bigtime"


Death to Iran!

Bomb Iran NOW!
 
"GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:lKCCi.66464$Xa3.8375@attbi_s22...
> NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL@yahoo.com wrote:
>> "We Are Going To Hit Iran. Bigtime"

> I just posted an excerpt from the same diary. It seems AWOL Bush is going
> to
> have us lob all those missles and bombs, but has no plans for what happens
> after that.


Of course we have a plan.

We'll fly the bombers and fighters back to their bases.

Everybody will get a couple of daus off.

We'll wash and wax the bombers and fighters, check the tires, reload 'em,
stuff like that.

Probably catch a football game.

Thats a great plan!

> I bet the neocons haven't imagined Iran hitting us back


They can't.

> closing the Strait of Hormuz


They can't.

> hitting the Green Zone, the Baghdad airport, or bombing
> the Road from Kuwait in retaliation.


Any, ANY, form of retaliation would result in a MASSIVE DESTRUCTION of the
entire infrastructure of their country. They are going to get PUNISHED,
they are going to TAKE IT, and that's how it ends.

> Iran is not a threat to the United States. AWOL Bush has no proof that
> Iranians
> are attacking Americans in Iraq.


Yes we do.

> AWOL Bush has no proof that Iran even has a
> nuclear weapons program.


Nobody takes the time and expense to enrich TWENTY TIMES the uranium needed
for nuclear power unless they are going to develop nuclear weapons and/or
sell that enriched uranium to someone wanting to develop nuclear weapons.

> If Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz


They can't.
 
Sounds like a pretty sound read of what's going on.

I'll say this, though: Don't you think this almost demands another
MIHOP???

Like, say, within weeks ?

Mike
 
Patriot Games wrote:

> "GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:lKCCi.66464$Xa3.8375@attbi_s22...
>> NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> "We Are Going To Hit Iran. Bigtime"

>> I just posted an excerpt from the same diary. It seems AWOL Bush is going
>> to
>> have us lob all those missles and bombs, but has no plans for what happens
>> after that.

>
> Of course we have a plan.
>
> We'll fly the bombers and fighters back to their bases.
>
> Everybody will get a couple of daus off.
>
> We'll wash and wax the bombers and fighters, check the tires, reload 'em,
> stuff like that.
>
> Probably catch a football game.
>
> Thats a great plan!
>
>> I bet the neocons haven't imagined Iran hitting us back

>
> They can't.
>
>> closing the Strait of Hormuz

>
> They can't.
>
>> hitting the Green Zone, the Baghdad airport, or bombing
>> the Road from Kuwait in retaliation.

>
> Any, ANY, form of retaliation would result in a MASSIVE DESTRUCTION of the
> entire infrastructure of their country.


In your imagination.

The GReen Zone is a single point of failure command and control for the whole
Iraq mess.
THe Baghdad airport is a single point of failure for the movement of people in
and out of Iraq
The road from Kuwait is a single point of failure for the movement of goods
(including fuel) into Iraq.

> They are going to get PUNISHED,
> they are going to TAKE IT, and that's how it ends.


Only in a made-up GAME.

>
>> Iran is not a threat to the United States. AWOL Bush has no proof that
>> Iranians
>> are attacking Americans in Iraq.

>
> Yes we do.


Not a single Iranian has been captured of killed in Iraq after a firefight with
Americans. Not a shred of evidence that Iranian munitions captured in Iraq came
from the Iranian government.
>
>> AWOL Bush has no proof that Iran even has a
>> nuclear weapons program.

>
> Nobody takes the time and expense to enrich TWENTY TIMES the uranium needed
> for nuclear power


You have no idea how much uranium was produced in Iran.

> unless they are going to develop nuclear weapons and/or
> sell that enriched uranium to someone wanting to develop nuclear weapons.
>
>> If Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz

>
> They can't.


By sinking a single oil tanker in a single chokepoint, they can close the
Strait.

AWOL Bush and his supporters are living in their imaginations.

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"GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xTWCi.67344$Xa3.24745@attbi_s22...
> Patriot Games wrote:
>> "GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> message
>> news:lKCCi.66464$Xa3.8375@attbi_s22...
>>> NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> "We Are Going To Hit Iran. Bigtime"
>>> I just posted an excerpt from the same diary. It seems AWOL Bush is
>>> going
>>> to
>>> have us lob all those missles and bombs, but has no plans for what
>>> happens
>>> after that.

>> Of course we have a plan.
>> We'll fly the bombers and fighters back to their bases.
>> Everybody will get a couple of daus off.
>> We'll wash and wax the bombers and fighters, check the tires, reload 'em,
>> stuff like that.
>> Probably catch a football game.
>> Thats a great plan!
>>> I bet the neocons haven't imagined Iran hitting us back

>> They can't.
>>> closing the Strait of Hormuz

>> They can't.
>>> hitting the Green Zone, the Baghdad airport, or bombing
>>> the Road from Kuwait in retaliation.

>> Any, ANY, form of retaliation would result in a MASSIVE DESTRUCTION of
>> the
>> entire infrastructure of their country.

> In your imagination.
> The GReen Zone is a single point of failure command and control for the
> whole
> Iraq mess.
> THe Baghdad airport is a single point of failure for the movement of
> people in
> and out of Iraq
> The road from Kuwait is a single point of failure for the movement of
> goods
> (including fuel) into Iraq.


Iran has NOTHING that can do anything....

>> They are going to get PUNISHED,
>> they are going to TAKE IT, and that's how it ends.

> Only in a made-up GAME.


Coming to your TV. Soon.

>>> Iran is not a threat to the United States. AWOL Bush has no proof that
>>> Iranians
>>> are attacking Americans in Iraq.

>> Yes we do.

> Not a single Iranian has been captured of killed in Iraq after a firefight
> with
> Americans. Not a shred of evidence that Iranian munitions captured in Iraq
> came
> from the Iranian government.


Plenty of evidence. Try looking for it.

>>> AWOL Bush has no proof that Iran even has a
>>> nuclear weapons program.

>> Nobody takes the time and expense to enrich TWENTY TIMES the uranium
>> needed
>> for nuclear power

> You have no idea how much uranium was produced in Iran.


Of course I do.

>> unless they are going to develop nuclear weapons and/or
>> sell that enriched uranium to someone wanting to develop nuclear weapons.
>>> If Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz

>> They can't.

> By sinking a single oil tanker in a single chokepoint, they can close the
> Strait.


They can't sink a tanker. They can't do anything. We have TWO CARRIER
BATTLE GROUPS THERE.
 
Patriot Games wrote:

> "GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xTWCi.67344$Xa3.24745@attbi_s22...
>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>> "GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:lKCCi.66464$Xa3.8375@attbi_s22...
>>>> NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>> "We Are Going To Hit Iran. Bigtime"
>>>> I just posted an excerpt from the same diary. It seems AWOL Bush is
>>>> going
>>>> to
>>>> have us lob all those missles and bombs, but has no plans for what
>>>> happens
>>>> after that.
>>> Of course we have a plan.
>>> We'll fly the bombers and fighters back to their bases.
>>> Everybody will get a couple of daus off.
>>> We'll wash and wax the bombers and fighters, check the tires, reload 'em,
>>> stuff like that.
>>> Probably catch a football game.
>>> Thats a great plan!
>>>> I bet the neocons haven't imagined Iran hitting us back
>>> They can't.
>>>> closing the Strait of Hormuz
>>> They can't.
>>>> hitting the Green Zone, the Baghdad airport, or bombing
>>>> the Road from Kuwait in retaliation.
>>> Any, ANY, form of retaliation would result in a MASSIVE DESTRUCTION of
>>> the
>>> entire infrastructure of their country.

>> In your imagination.
>> The GReen Zone is a single point of failure command and control for the
>> whole
>> Iraq mess.
>> THe Baghdad airport is a single point of failure for the movement of
>> people in
>> and out of Iraq
>> The road from Kuwait is a single point of failure for the movement of
>> goods
>> (including fuel) into Iraq.

>
> Iran has NOTHING that can do anything....


It sure as hell does. It doesn't have a lot, but it does have cruise missles
which can hit such large targets.
>
>>> They are going to get PUNISHED,
>>> they are going to TAKE IT, and that's how it ends.

>> Only in a made-up GAME.

>
> Coming to your TV. Soon.


That's how the American populace got snookered into believing that Saddam had
WMDs.
>
>>>> Iran is not a threat to the United States. AWOL Bush has no proof that
>>>> Iranians
>>>> are attacking Americans in Iraq.
>>> Yes we do.

>> Not a single Iranian has been captured of killed in Iraq after a firefight
>> with
>> Americans. Not a shred of evidence that Iranian munitions captured in Iraq
>> came
>> from the Iranian government.

>
> Plenty of evidence. Try looking for it.


There isn't a shred of evidence. You're already snookered into believing that
Iranians are attacking our forces in Iraq. It's a lie. Just like Saddam's WMDs.
Bullshit from your betters in the RNC.
>
>>>> AWOL Bush has no proof that Iran even has a
>>>> nuclear weapons program.
>>> Nobody takes the time and expense to enrich TWENTY TIMES the uranium
>>> needed
>>> for nuclear power

>> You have no idea how much uranium was produced in Iran.

>
> Of course I do.


No you don't. You're simply full of beLIEfs fostered from your Republican
overlords.
>
>>> unless they are going to develop nuclear weapons and/or
>>> sell that enriched uranium to someone wanting to develop nuclear weapons.
>>>> If Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz
>>> They can't.

>> By sinking a single oil tanker in a single chokepoint, they can close the
>> Strait.

>
> They can't sink a tanker.


They can sink a ****ing tanker with a simple 105mm howitzer on the shore of the
Strait. You don't know **** but you beLIEve in it.

> They can't do anything. We have TWO CARRIER
> BATTLE GROUPS THERE.


Those carrier groups can't remove a sunken tanker from the Strait. In fact,
they're targets as well as jet runways.

--
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"GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Va0Di.67535$Xa3.14941@attbi_s22...
> Patriot Games wrote:
>> "GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> message
>> news:xTWCi.67344$Xa3.24745@attbi_s22...
>>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>>> "GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>> message
>>>> news:lKCCi.66464$Xa3.8375@attbi_s22...
>>>>> NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>> "We Are Going To Hit Iran. Bigtime"
>>>>> I just posted an excerpt from the same diary. It seems AWOL Bush is
>>>>> going
>>>>> to
>>>>> have us lob all those missles and bombs, but has no plans for what
>>>>> happens
>>>>> after that.
>>>> Of course we have a plan.
>>>> We'll fly the bombers and fighters back to their bases.
>>>> Everybody will get a couple of daus off.
>>>> We'll wash and wax the bombers and fighters, check the tires, reload
>>>> 'em,
>>>> stuff like that.
>>>> Probably catch a football game.
>>>> Thats a great plan!
>>>>> I bet the neocons haven't imagined Iran hitting us back
>>>> They can't.
>>>>> closing the Strait of Hormuz
>>>> They can't.
>>>>> hitting the Green Zone, the Baghdad airport, or bombing
>>>>> the Road from Kuwait in retaliation.
>>>> Any, ANY, form of retaliation would result in a MASSIVE DESTRUCTION of
>>>> the
>>>> entire infrastructure of their country.
>>> In your imagination.
>>> The GReen Zone is a single point of failure command and control for the
>>> whole
>>> Iraq mess.
>>> THe Baghdad airport is a single point of failure for the movement of
>>> people in
>>> and out of Iraq
>>> The road from Kuwait is a single point of failure for the movement of
>>> goods
>>> (including fuel) into Iraq.

>> Iran has NOTHING that can do anything....

> It sure as hell does. It doesn't have a lot, but it does have cruise
> missles
> which can hit such large targets.


Not after the first bombing runs.....

>>>> They are going to get PUNISHED,
>>>> they are going to TAKE IT, and that's how it ends.
>>> Only in a made-up GAME.

>> Coming to your TV. Soon.

> That's how the American populace got snookered into believing that Saddam
> had
> WMDs.


Whatever... Where is Saddam? DEAD.

>>>>> Iran is not a threat to the United States. AWOL Bush has no proof that
>>>>> Iranians
>>>>> are attacking Americans in Iraq.
>>>> Yes we do.
>>> Not a single Iranian has been captured of killed in Iraq after a
>>> firefight
>>> with
>>> Americans. Not a shred of evidence that Iranian munitions captured in
>>> Iraq
>>> came
>>> from the Iranian government.

>> Plenty of evidence. Try looking for it.

> There isn't a shred of evidence. You're already snookered into believing
> that
> Iranians are attacking our forces in Iraq. It's a lie. Just like Saddam's
> WMDs.
> Bullshit from your betters in the RNC.


Plenty of evidence the IEDs are Iranian-supplied.

>>>>> AWOL Bush has no proof that Iran even has a
>>>>> nuclear weapons program.
>>>> Nobody takes the time and expense to enrich TWENTY TIMES the uranium
>>>> needed
>>>> for nuclear power
>>> You have no idea how much uranium was produced in Iran.

>> Of course I do.

> No you don't. You're simply full of beLIEfs fostered from your Republican
> overlords.


No, fool, the info comes directly from the UN.

>>>> unless they are going to develop nuclear weapons and/or
>>>> sell that enriched uranium to someone wanting to develop nuclear
>>>> weapons.
>>>>> If Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz
>>>> They can't.
>>> By sinking a single oil tanker in a single chokepoint, they can close
>>> the
>>> Strait.

>> They can't sink a tanker.

> They can sink a ****ing tanker with a simple 105mm howitzer on the shore
> of the
> Strait. You don't know **** but you beLIEve in it.


What howitzer? Do you mean that pile of twisted smoking metal and dead
greasy Iranians that will be where the howitzer USED to be after we start on
their ass???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

>> They can't do anything. We have TWO CARRIER
>> BATTLE GROUPS THERE.

> Those carrier groups can't remove a sunken tanker from the Strait. In
> fact,
> they're targets as well as jet runways.


I don't think you could be a bigger FOOL if you tried.

Feel free to explain how Iran will detect nighttime STEALTH bombers and
fighters???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

Say good-bye to your terrorist friends in Iran....
 
Patriot Games wrote:

> "GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Va0Di.67535$Xa3.14941@attbi_s22...
>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>> "GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:xTWCi.67344$Xa3.24745@attbi_s22...
>>>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>>>> "GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> message
>>>>> news:lKCCi.66464$Xa3.8375@attbi_s22...
>>>>>> NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>> "We Are Going To Hit Iran. Bigtime"
>>>>>> I just posted an excerpt from the same diary. It seems AWOL Bush is
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> have us lob all those missles and bombs, but has no plans for what
>>>>>> happens
>>>>>> after that.
>>>>> Of course we have a plan.
>>>>> We'll fly the bombers and fighters back to their bases.
>>>>> Everybody will get a couple of daus off.
>>>>> We'll wash and wax the bombers and fighters, check the tires, reload
>>>>> 'em,
>>>>> stuff like that.
>>>>> Probably catch a football game.
>>>>> Thats a great plan!
>>>>>> I bet the neocons haven't imagined Iran hitting us back
>>>>> They can't.
>>>>>> closing the Strait of Hormuz
>>>>> They can't.
>>>>>> hitting the Green Zone, the Baghdad airport, or bombing
>>>>>> the Road from Kuwait in retaliation.
>>>>> Any, ANY, form of retaliation would result in a MASSIVE DESTRUCTION of
>>>>> the
>>>>> entire infrastructure of their country.
>>>> In your imagination.
>>>> The GReen Zone is a single point of failure command and control for the
>>>> whole
>>>> Iraq mess.
>>>> THe Baghdad airport is a single point of failure for the movement of
>>>> people in
>>>> and out of Iraq
>>>> The road from Kuwait is a single point of failure for the movement of
>>>> goods
>>>> (including fuel) into Iraq.
>>> Iran has NOTHING that can do anything....

>> It sure as hell does. It doesn't have a lot, but it does have cruise
>> missles
>> which can hit such large targets.

>
> Not after the first bombing runs.....
>
>>>>> They are going to get PUNISHED,
>>>>> they are going to TAKE IT, and that's how it ends.
>>>> Only in a made-up GAME.
>>> Coming to your TV. Soon.

>> That's how the American populace got snookered into believing that Saddam
>> had
>> WMDs.

>
> Whatever... Where is Saddam? DEAD.
>
>>>>>> Iran is not a threat to the United States. AWOL Bush has no proof that
>>>>>> Iranians
>>>>>> are attacking Americans in Iraq.
>>>>> Yes we do.
>>>> Not a single Iranian has been captured of killed in Iraq after a
>>>> firefight
>>>> with
>>>> Americans. Not a shred of evidence that Iranian munitions captured in
>>>> Iraq
>>>> came
>>>> from the Iranian government.
>>> Plenty of evidence. Try looking for it.

>> There isn't a shred of evidence. You're already snookered into believing
>> that
>> Iranians are attacking our forces in Iraq. It's a lie. Just like Saddam's
>> WMDs.
>> Bullshit from your betters in the RNC.

>
> Plenty of evidence the IEDs are Iranian-supplied.
>
>>>>>> AWOL Bush has no proof that Iran even has a
>>>>>> nuclear weapons program.
>>>>> Nobody takes the time and expense to enrich TWENTY TIMES the uranium
>>>>> needed
>>>>> for nuclear power
>>>> You have no idea how much uranium was produced in Iran.
>>> Of course I do.

>> No you don't. You're simply full of beLIEfs fostered from your Republican
>> overlords.

>
> No, fool, the info comes directly from the UN.
>
>>>>> unless they are going to develop nuclear weapons and/or
>>>>> sell that enriched uranium to someone wanting to develop nuclear
>>>>> weapons.
>>>>>> If Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz
>>>>> They can't.
>>>> By sinking a single oil tanker in a single chokepoint, they can close
>>>> the
>>>> Strait.
>>> They can't sink a tanker.

>> They can sink a ****ing tanker with a simple 105mm howitzer on the shore
>> of the
>> Strait. You don't know **** but you beLIEve in it.

>
> What howitzer? Do you mean that pile of twisted smoking metal and dead
> greasy Iranians that will be where the howitzer USED to be after we start on
> their ass???


You're dreaming. The US doesn't have enough 'smart' bombs to hit every stinking
howitzer on the shore of the Strait.
>
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
>
>>> They can't do anything. We have TWO CARRIER
>>> BATTLE GROUPS THERE.

>> Those carrier groups can't remove a sunken tanker from the Strait. In
>> fact,
>> they're targets as well as jet runways.

>
> I don't think you could be a bigger FOOL if you tried.
>
> Feel free to explain how Iran will detect nighttime STEALTH bombers and
> fighters???


What an idiot! We only have 21 B2s. 21! And most of them need to fly all the way
from their US bases. Howitzers are on wheels. What a dumbass! No wonder you
call yourself GAMES. You're a pimply-faced adolescent.
>
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
>
> Say good-bye to your terrorist friends in Iran....


--
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"GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CxgDi.68092$Xa3.1215@attbi_s22...
> Patriot Games wrote:
>> "GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> message
>> news:Va0Di.67535$Xa3.14941@attbi_s22...
>>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>>> "GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>> message
>>>> news:xTWCi.67344$Xa3.24745@attbi_s22...
>>>>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>>>>> "GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> message
>>>>>> news:lKCCi.66464$Xa3.8375@attbi_s22...
>>>>>>> NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> "We Are Going To Hit Iran. Bigtime"
>>>>>>> I just posted an excerpt from the same diary. It seems AWOL Bush is
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> have us lob all those missles and bombs, but has no plans for what
>>>>>>> happens
>>>>>>> after that.
>>>>>> Of course we have a plan.
>>>>>> We'll fly the bombers and fighters back to their bases.
>>>>>> Everybody will get a couple of daus off.
>>>>>> We'll wash and wax the bombers and fighters, check the tires, reload
>>>>>> 'em,
>>>>>> stuff like that.
>>>>>> Probably catch a football game.
>>>>>> Thats a great plan!
>>>>>>> I bet the neocons haven't imagined Iran hitting us back
>>>>>> They can't.
>>>>>>> closing the Strait of Hormuz
>>>>>> They can't.
>>>>>>> hitting the Green Zone, the Baghdad airport, or bombing
>>>>>>> the Road from Kuwait in retaliation.
>>>>>> Any, ANY, form of retaliation would result in a MASSIVE DESTRUCTION
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> entire infrastructure of their country.
>>>>> In your imagination.
>>>>> The GReen Zone is a single point of failure command and control for
>>>>> the
>>>>> whole
>>>>> Iraq mess.
>>>>> THe Baghdad airport is a single point of failure for the movement of
>>>>> people in
>>>>> and out of Iraq
>>>>> The road from Kuwait is a single point of failure for the movement of
>>>>> goods
>>>>> (including fuel) into Iraq.
>>>> Iran has NOTHING that can do anything....
>>> It sure as hell does. It doesn't have a lot, but it does have cruise
>>> missles
>>> which can hit such large targets.

>> Not after the first bombing runs.....
>>>>>> They are going to get PUNISHED,
>>>>>> they are going to TAKE IT, and that's how it ends.
>>>>> Only in a made-up GAME.
>>>> Coming to your TV. Soon.
>>> That's how the American populace got snookered into believing that
>>> Saddam
>>> had
>>> WMDs.

>> Whatever... Where is Saddam? DEAD.
>>>>>>> Iran is not a threat to the United States. AWOL Bush has no proof
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> Iranians
>>>>>>> are attacking Americans in Iraq.
>>>>>> Yes we do.
>>>>> Not a single Iranian has been captured of killed in Iraq after a
>>>>> firefight
>>>>> with
>>>>> Americans. Not a shred of evidence that Iranian munitions captured in
>>>>> Iraq
>>>>> came
>>>>> from the Iranian government.
>>>> Plenty of evidence. Try looking for it.
>>> There isn't a shred of evidence. You're already snookered into believing
>>> that
>>> Iranians are attacking our forces in Iraq. It's a lie. Just like
>>> Saddam's
>>> WMDs.
>>> Bullshit from your betters in the RNC.

>> Plenty of evidence the IEDs are Iranian-supplied.
>>>>>>> AWOL Bush has no proof that Iran even has a
>>>>>>> nuclear weapons program.
>>>>>> Nobody takes the time and expense to enrich TWENTY TIMES the uranium
>>>>>> needed
>>>>>> for nuclear power
>>>>> You have no idea how much uranium was produced in Iran.
>>>> Of course I do.
>>> No you don't. You're simply full of beLIEfs fostered from your
>>> Republican
>>> overlords.

>> No, fool, the info comes directly from the UN.
>>>>>> unless they are going to develop nuclear weapons and/or
>>>>>> sell that enriched uranium to someone wanting to develop nuclear
>>>>>> weapons.
>>>>>>> If Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz
>>>>>> They can't.
>>>>> By sinking a single oil tanker in a single chokepoint, they can close
>>>>> the
>>>>> Strait.
>>>> They can't sink a tanker.
>>> They can sink a ****ing tanker with a simple 105mm howitzer on the shore
>>> of the
>>> Strait. You don't know **** but you beLIEve in it.

>> What howitzer? Do you mean that pile of twisted smoking metal and dead
>> greasy Iranians that will be where the howitzer USED to be after we start
>> on
>> their ass???

> You're dreaming. The US doesn't have enough 'smart' bombs to hit every
> stinking
> howitzer on the shore of the Strait.


Why in the world would we use an expensive smart bomb or cruise missle on
something as simple and easy to find as a howitzer?

Stealth fighter. One rocket. Bye-bye howitzer.

However, most of the stationary artillery can be dealt with even easier and
cheaper. A Tomahawk here, a Tomahawk there, or even light guns from a
destroyer.

You seem to know nothing about war-fighting except how to run away from it.

>> I don't think you could be a bigger FOOL if you tried.
>> Feel free to explain how Iran will detect nighttime STEALTH bombers and
>> fighters???

> What an idiot! We only have 21 B2s. 21! And most of them need to fly all
> the way
> from their US bases.


So? Its quite routine. The pilots lock in the waypoints, have a sammich
and a pee, take a nap, hook up with a refueler, have another sammich, take
another nap, beep-beep wake and kill everybody!

> Howitzers are on wheels. What a dumbass! No wonder you
> call yourself GAMES. You're a pimply-faced adolescent.


Doesn't mean ****. If they don't see us (and they can't) and they don't
hear us (and they can't) they LITERALLY won't know what hit 'em. How do you
think we TOTALLY DESTROYED Saddam's artillery?

Saddam BURIED half his air force. Oops! America has ground-penetrating
radar! Bye-bye airplanes!

The only thing you seem to know about war-fighting is which direction is the
Other Way!

What a complete *****.
 
Patriot Games wrote:

> "GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:CxgDi.68092$Xa3.1215@attbi_s22...
>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>> "GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:Va0Di.67535$Xa3.14941@attbi_s22...
>>>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>>>> "GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> message
>>>>> news:xTWCi.67344$Xa3.24745@attbi_s22...
>>>>>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>>>>>> "GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>> news:lKCCi.66464$Xa3.8375@attbi_s22...
>>>>>>>> NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "We Are Going To Hit Iran. Bigtime"
>>>>>>>> I just posted an excerpt from the same diary. It seems AWOL Bush is
>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> have us lob all those missles and bombs, but has no plans for what
>>>>>>>> happens
>>>>>>>> after that.
>>>>>>> Of course we have a plan.
>>>>>>> We'll fly the bombers and fighters back to their bases.
>>>>>>> Everybody will get a couple of daus off.
>>>>>>> We'll wash and wax the bombers and fighters, check the tires, reload
>>>>>>> 'em,
>>>>>>> stuff like that.
>>>>>>> Probably catch a football game.
>>>>>>> Thats a great plan!
>>>>>>>> I bet the neocons haven't imagined Iran hitting us back
>>>>>>> They can't.
>>>>>>>> closing the Strait of Hormuz
>>>>>>> They can't.
>>>>>>>> hitting the Green Zone, the Baghdad airport, or bombing
>>>>>>>> the Road from Kuwait in retaliation.
>>>>>>> Any, ANY, form of retaliation would result in a MASSIVE DESTRUCTION
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> entire infrastructure of their country.
>>>>>> In your imagination.
>>>>>> The GReen Zone is a single point of failure command and control for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> whole
>>>>>> Iraq mess.
>>>>>> THe Baghdad airport is a single point of failure for the movement of
>>>>>> people in
>>>>>> and out of Iraq
>>>>>> The road from Kuwait is a single point of failure for the movement of
>>>>>> goods
>>>>>> (including fuel) into Iraq.
>>>>> Iran has NOTHING that can do anything....
>>>> It sure as hell does. It doesn't have a lot, but it does have cruise
>>>> missles
>>>> which can hit such large targets.
>>> Not after the first bombing runs.....
>>>>>>> They are going to get PUNISHED,
>>>>>>> they are going to TAKE IT, and that's how it ends.
>>>>>> Only in a made-up GAME.
>>>>> Coming to your TV. Soon.
>>>> That's how the American populace got snookered into believing that
>>>> Saddam
>>>> had
>>>> WMDs.
>>> Whatever... Where is Saddam? DEAD.
>>>>>>>> Iran is not a threat to the United States. AWOL Bush has no proof
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> Iranians
>>>>>>>> are attacking Americans in Iraq.
>>>>>>> Yes we do.
>>>>>> Not a single Iranian has been captured of killed in Iraq after a
>>>>>> firefight
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> Americans. Not a shred of evidence that Iranian munitions captured in
>>>>>> Iraq
>>>>>> came
>>>>>> from the Iranian government.
>>>>> Plenty of evidence. Try looking for it.
>>>> There isn't a shred of evidence. You're already snookered into believing
>>>> that
>>>> Iranians are attacking our forces in Iraq. It's a lie. Just like
>>>> Saddam's
>>>> WMDs.
>>>> Bullshit from your betters in the RNC.
>>> Plenty of evidence the IEDs are Iranian-supplied.
>>>>>>>> AWOL Bush has no proof that Iran even has a
>>>>>>>> nuclear weapons program.
>>>>>>> Nobody takes the time and expense to enrich TWENTY TIMES the uranium
>>>>>>> needed
>>>>>>> for nuclear power
>>>>>> You have no idea how much uranium was produced in Iran.
>>>>> Of course I do.
>>>> No you don't. You're simply full of beLIEfs fostered from your
>>>> Republican
>>>> overlords.
>>> No, fool, the info comes directly from the UN.
>>>>>>> unless they are going to develop nuclear weapons and/or
>>>>>>> sell that enriched uranium to someone wanting to develop nuclear
>>>>>>> weapons.
>>>>>>>> If Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz
>>>>>>> They can't.
>>>>>> By sinking a single oil tanker in a single chokepoint, they can close
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Strait.
>>>>> They can't sink a tanker.
>>>> They can sink a ****ing tanker with a simple 105mm howitzer on the shore
>>>> of the
>>>> Strait. You don't know **** but you beLIEve in it.
>>> What howitzer? Do you mean that pile of twisted smoking metal and dead
>>> greasy Iranians that will be where the howitzer USED to be after we start
>>> on
>>> their ass???

>> You're dreaming. The US doesn't have enough 'smart' bombs to hit every
>> stinking
>> howitzer on the shore of the Strait.

>
> Why in the world would we use an expensive smart bomb or cruise missle on
> something as simple and easy to find as a howitzer?


So, you think we're gonna send our 21 B2 bombers and take out Iran's howitzers?
Ha ha ha ha hahahahahahahaha.
>
> Stealth fighter. One rocket. Bye-bye howitzer.
>
> However, most of the stationary artillery can be dealt with even easier and
> cheaper. A Tomahawk here, a Tomahawk there, or even light guns from a
> destroyer.
>
> You seem to know nothing about war-fighting except how to run away from it.


The only thing you know about warfare is your ****ing computer games, dimwit.
>
>>> I don't think you could be a bigger FOOL if you tried.
>>> Feel free to explain how Iran will detect nighttime STEALTH bombers and
>>> fighters???

>> What an idiot! We only have 21 B2s. 21! And most of them need to fly all
>> the way
>> from their US bases.

>
> So? Its quite routine. The pilots lock in the waypoints, have a sammich
> and a pee, take a nap, hook up with a refueler, have another sammich, take
> another nap, beep-beep wake and kill everybody!


21 bombers and how many hours between sorties? Haven't thought of that, have
you? THe best they could do would be to take our Iran's radar systems. THen
what happens? Haven't thought of that, have you?
>
>> Howitzers are on wheels. What a dumbass! No wonder you
>> call yourself GAMES. You're a pimply-faced adolescent.

>
> Doesn't mean ****.


Not to a gamer, but the real world doesn't mean **** to a gamer.

> If they don't see us (and they can't) and they don't
> hear us (and they can't) they LITERALLY won't know what hit 'em. How do you
> think we TOTALLY DESTROYED Saddam's artillery?


We didn't. They simply ran away. Artillary doesn't mean **** to a mbile attack
force traveling at least 30 mph.
>
> Saddam BURIED half his air force. Oops! America has ground-penetrating
> radar! Bye-bye airplanes!
>
> The only thing you seem to know about war-fighting is which direction is the
> Other Way!
>
> What a complete *****.


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