ridingred Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I've been getting claims i wouldn't stand a chance with my cam, pipe, and lid off. apparently my 40hp won't hold a candle to a 55hp 450 in the woods. I've always believed that XC racing is 90% rider and 10% machine. Suspension is much more important than hp on these XC races. I wanted to see what kind of numbers you trail guys are pushing? Anybody that rides trails outta know that ponies don't win races. p.s. if you don't ride trails or XC please keep your comments to yourself, lol i'm looking for experienced answers. my quad = 40hp give or take. Quote 05, 13:1 JE, 02 crf cam, full hmf, razr tt tires, rath sway bar, lowering link in the rear, triple rate rebuilds on front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trx450er7 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I agree with you, a 55hp machine vs a 40hp machine with equal riders doesn't have much of an advantage in the tight stuff. Now when you get to ttrying to take the holeshot or when you break out of the woods into the faster sections you may fall behind. What class are you looking to enter? An A class rider on a stock machine can put a hurtin' on a C class rider on a built machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronicsmoke Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 XC racers usually stay under 55hp, easier to hang on to.. they also prefer the 04/05 carbs because there is less of a hit. 55+HP is hard to hang onto for a 2 hour race.. it would be hard to use that much power through tight paths.. anywhere else It'd be a different race though. If your machine had 40, with suspension and another guy had a wicked built motor, well the guy with less power and the better setup woulf prevail. Quote CRASHTEST RACING IMMORTAL ATV http://www.offtopic.forum/data/MetaMirrorCache/7cbc5acb2a1ab76eac286e7fe5b4520d.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airmobile101 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Let me drink some more coffee and gather my thoughts, then I will comment. lol Quote http://www.offtopic.forum/data/MetaMirrorCache/fd3b0f2c0d7ce24057c01e9a7e667bc6.jpg HUNG RACING, MSR RACING, RATH RACING, HOUSER RACING, JT SPROCKETS, HIPER TECHNOLOGY, HINSON RACING, STIFF BRAND CLOTHING,and CYCRA RACING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridingred Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 Let me drink some more coffee and gather my thoughts, then I will comment. lol lol, i was thinking the same thing after seeing 3 posts already...you guys wake up early to! i know it's 7:00am for you airmobile, not sure about the other guys. i wouldn't figure your machines are much over 50hp are they ? Quote 05, 13:1 JE, 02 crf cam, full hmf, razr tt tires, rath sway bar, lowering link in the rear, triple rate rebuilds on front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronicsmoke Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 lol, i was thinking the same thing after seeing 3 posts already...you guys wake up early to! i know it's 7:00am for you airmobile, not sure about the other guys. i wouldn't figure your machines are much over 50hp are they ? I work at 7:30 EST so I'll always be on early:icon_smokin: Quote CRASHTEST RACING IMMORTAL ATV http://www.offtopic.forum/data/MetaMirrorCache/7cbc5acb2a1ab76eac286e7fe5b4520d.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trx450er7 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I work at 6:30. Up at 4:30. As you can see I'm not at work yet... it's 6:34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridingred Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 I work at 6:30. Up at 4:30. As you can see I'm not at work yet... it's 6:34 you better get moving! Quote 05, 13:1 JE, 02 crf cam, full hmf, razr tt tires, rath sway bar, lowering link in the rear, triple rate rebuilds on front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airmobile101 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I have seen some monster XC bikes that put out some serious numbers. I think it all depends on experience. If your a 325lbs rider, then yea........ I can see you needing every ounce of power. IMO....... I think a 55hp would be pushing the reliability of the engine for 1.5-2 hours straight non-stop. There is a ton of factors involved needing that type of engine and setup. I think Im right around 48-50 HP on my 2007. Quote http://www.offtopic.forum/data/MetaMirrorCache/fd3b0f2c0d7ce24057c01e9a7e667bc6.jpg HUNG RACING, MSR RACING, RATH RACING, HOUSER RACING, JT SPROCKETS, HIPER TECHNOLOGY, HINSON RACING, STIFF BRAND CLOTHING,and CYCRA RACING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airmobile101 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 For the record. My buddies 2008 KTM 525XC puts out 54hp. Thats with only a higher compression piston he put in during the rebuild. Quote http://www.offtopic.forum/data/MetaMirrorCache/fd3b0f2c0d7ce24057c01e9a7e667bc6.jpg HUNG RACING, MSR RACING, RATH RACING, HOUSER RACING, JT SPROCKETS, HIPER TECHNOLOGY, HINSON RACING, STIFF BRAND CLOTHING,and CYCRA RACING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridingred Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 crazy numbers for just dropping in a piston, whew i wish i could drop in a piston and get 54hp, lol. thanks for he info airmobile. Quote 05, 13:1 JE, 02 crf cam, full hmf, razr tt tires, rath sway bar, lowering link in the rear, triple rate rebuilds on front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airmobile101 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 You have to remember, thats a 525 engine. I think he was around 56hp when he had the 540cc kit on it. Quote http://www.offtopic.forum/data/MetaMirrorCache/fd3b0f2c0d7ce24057c01e9a7e667bc6.jpg HUNG RACING, MSR RACING, RATH RACING, HOUSER RACING, JT SPROCKETS, HIPER TECHNOLOGY, HINSON RACING, STIFF BRAND CLOTHING,and CYCRA RACING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deven Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 And 55hp is no where near the reliability limit in these motors. A duner will pull hard to the rev limiter for a couple hour ride with 60+ all day. Aren't there many KTMs racing XC? Aren't all of them over 50? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airmobile101 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 And 55hp is no where near the reliability limit in these motors. A duner will pull hard to the rev limiter for a couple hour ride with 60+ all day. Aren't there many KTMs racing XC? Aren't all of them over 50? I have a 2008 KTM 450XC. Its no 50+ bike. lol I wouldn't run a 55HP bike, thats just me. I understand that a duner will pull the rev limiter and they need to do that. A XC racer will bounce off the rev limiter constantly non stop for 2 + hours. No breaks, just balls to the wall. Quote http://www.offtopic.forum/data/MetaMirrorCache/fd3b0f2c0d7ce24057c01e9a7e667bc6.jpg HUNG RACING, MSR RACING, RATH RACING, HOUSER RACING, JT SPROCKETS, HIPER TECHNOLOGY, HINSON RACING, STIFF BRAND CLOTHING,and CYCRA RACING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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