What paint? Comparing paint thread

Hey guys, recent topic of the Chat box.. PAINT

 

Its well known that PC is the shit, but what about cheaper alternatives?

 

I'm going to share what I've experienced, and encourage everybody to post up what they use, how it works, what works better, what not to use ect. Any insight that remains on topic is useful!

 

PC- my 450 is PC'd Cost, 600$. Been done for a year with VERY minimal wear (even where the boots rub)

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Rocker Guard - I saw this used on the Jeep forums and devided to try it. Turned out pretty good, looks textured and I can't scrape it off like I could rattle can paint.

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Rattle Can - I have done this, and it wears off fast. The BEST (and really only way) to use rattle can effectively is sand blasting the piece first.. the pourus surface will hold the paint way better.

 

 

Implement Paint <- Somebody?

Auto Paint (shot through a gun, with the correct hardeners) <-Somebody?

 

Lets get the ball rolling with sample pictures!

You can't beat the powder coatings, hands down. The rattle can works in non-contact areas. I have used a high end Sikkens automotive urethane, on a frame. It's holding up real well. It boils down to your financial resources.

Any pictures of the Sikkens, F-Red? How easily will it scratch/chip? How did you prep?

 

Just trying to answer some questions before they get asked.. :gr_cheers:

How well is that Rocker Guard holding up to being pinged with rocks and such? How easy is it to clean? Can it be stained by say... Iron ore dust, mud, etc...?

How well is that Rocker Guard holding up to being pinged with rocks and such? How easy is it to clean? Can it be stained by say... Iron ore dust, mud, etc...?

 

 

What I've found is that it is harder to whipe clean than a smooth surface, but still comes clean. I've use a pressure washer on it. It wont chip like rattle can spray paint, but can be re-applied like spray paint if anything does ding it ( i havent had to yet, but I barely drive the 400ex that has the frame done this way. I would do it again if I couldn't get PC.

What I've found is that it is harder to whipe clean than a smooth surface, but still comes clean. I've use a pressure washer on it. It wont chip like rattle can spray paint, but can be re-applied like spray paint if anything does ding it ( i havent had to yet, but I barely drive the 400ex that has the frame done this way. I would do it again if I couldn't get PC.

 

Thanks for the info. Any specific brand you used? I want something durable for where I live and have thought about this route for some time. It's nice to know someone has actually done it and likes it. Is this something you would recommend? My a-arms have started chipping (riding behind dirtbikes) and I thought if this is PC, I want something more durable.

I'll get a picture of the can I used.. the nice thing about it, which is actually an advantage over PC, is that you can touch it up after like regular paint.

Chronic, post a link for that Rocker paint stuff. I just might do the Murder out look on my sons KX65. Good thread also!

This stuff???????

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=rocker+guard+paint&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1280&bih=836&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=8454783675299465927&sa=X&ei=qNCzT-DwFuPq2QX_9NzpCA&ved=0CIoBEPMCMAE

I painted my front rims with walmart truck bed liner in a spray can...It holds up pretty good... Although some has come off only because I didnt prep my rims well and didnt let it cure for 24hrs... It has a rough feel and dries like a flat satin black...Im doing my rears tonight.. Ill take pictures also..

I painted my front rims with walmart truck bed liner in a spray can...It holds up pretty good... Although some has come off only because I didnt prep my rims well and didnt let it cure for 24hrs... It has a rough feel and dries like a flat satin black...Im doing my rears tonight.. Ill take pictures also..

 

Keep us updated. Seems like a good way to re-paint and protect at the same time. Does it come in various colors?

I used that Plasticoat on my rear hubs, only got two trips on them to the dunes so hard to say how it holds up. I do like the fact it's "rubbery" which means in certain places on the bike, it's less likely to chip than paint or PC. Don't think it would hold up to constant rubbing like on the frame though. I have my dirt nerfs PC's and have risen in some pretty rocky / stoney places and they are holding up surprisingly well.

They only had black...

Good discussion so far guys. Post what you have used, and how it works so we can see the finish!

 

This is the stuff I used http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/4/Auto/AutoBodyRepair1/AutoBodyPaintProtectants/PRD~0477935P/Black+Rocker+Guard.jsp?locale=en but I think any rubberized rocker guard will do the trick.

PPG Urethane based paints are about the best you can spray if going that route as far as durability goes. I've painted quite a bit of different things from atv frames, wheels, my downhill bikes, boat trailers, fender flairs, and pieces and parts of all kinds. My 400ex I painted 4 years ago is still holding up great. I recently had my frame powdered but wasn't happy with the color and finish so I'm having it blasted and I'll be painting it back to a bright silver. Here are some pics that were available for now...

 

Mitsubishi Rotor Glow:

http://www.offtopic.forum/uploads/imported/2012/05/IMG_9009-1.jpg

 

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PPG Black with a red pinstripe on wheels, black upper arms:

http://www.offtopic.forum/uploads/imported/2012/05/IMG_0254-1.jpg

 

http://www.offtopic.forum/uploads/imported/2012/05/IMG_0262-1.jpg

 

http://www.offtopic.forum/uploads/imported/2012/05/IMG_0256-1.jpg

 

Bright Red frame for a friend:

http://www.offtopic.forum/uploads/imported/2012/05/IMG00063201008021707-1.jpg

Good post NF!

I used that Plasticoat on my rear hubs, only got two trips on them to the dunes so hard to say how it holds up. I do like the fact it's "rubbery" which means in certain places on the bike, it's less likely to chip than paint or PC. Don't think it would hold up to constant rubbing like on the frame though. I have my dirt nerfs PC's and have risen in some pretty rocky / stoney places and they are holding up surprisingly well.

 

 

from my experience the rubberyness is terrible. instead of chipping like paint it peels right off and stretches in large pieces. i had a piece hangin went to rip it and pulled half the paint off the rim, lol.

Any pictures of the Sikkens, F-Red? How easily will it scratch/chip? How did you prep?

 

Just trying to answer some questions before they get asked.. :gr_cheers:

 

The paint is very durable. Sandblasted the frame.

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uve seen my quad, I painted all of it with implement paint its working well so far. use a ton of clear coat

implement paint works very well. my brother paints the underside of his mud trucks and jeeps with it right over the rust, hit with a wire wheel of course and it stayed on as long as he had the trucks. i was getting alot of rock chips on the bottom of my f250 when i put the 35s on it and i taped it and painted it with the rustoleum bed liner spray and its held up great so far. ill get a pic next time the truck is clean.

i want to pain my beadlock rings red, any suggestions on what rattle can paint will work best?

ill sell you an electric oven for real cheap and you can get your own powdercoat kit

Powder only works better if the frame was sand blasted. I found this out on a Rath bumper I powdered. Its just like anything else, the powder need to have a rough surface to grip on.

According to my new PC guy, you can PC on top of old PC as long as you can get current through the piece being coated. The majority of the 600 I spent was sandblasting..

 

I'm building a PC oven too :fluffy:

from my experience the rubberyness is terrible. instead of chipping like paint it peels right off and stretches in large pieces. i had a piece hangin went to rip it and pulled half the paint off the rim, lol.

Thats one of it's properties... It says it on the can. Not the products fault you ripped it off.