What Will Happen to Ron Paul

As many of you already know the American "two-party" political

system has become a sham in recent decades. No candidate

can gain the Presidential nomination without having the full

blessing of the establishment power elite. Since Ron Paul

is not a robot clone who can be counted on to continue bus-

iness as usual, he will not be allowed to get anywhere near

the Republican party nomination. Therefore the mass media

will completely ignore him and hope that he just fades away.

If that fails - as now appears to be the case - they will begin

an all-out attack campaign to try to smear him as an

extremist. The same thing happened to Pat Buchanan

in '96. When Buchanan did well in the first couple of

Republican primaries the establisment went BONKERS.

Immediately stories began to circulate about Klansmen,

neo-nazis, skinheads etc working for the Buchanan

campaign somewhere or another. That's how the

shysters who now run things operate and we should

expect the same tactics to be used against Ron Paul.

Note what the attached blog piece has to say about

it. Also, if somehow Paul managed to weather this

storm and looked like he had a serious chance, his

life would be in jeopardy. The oligarchs who run things

play rough and would do whatever it takes to prevent

someone they don't control from sitting in the Oval

Office.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

RON PAUL, I HOPE YOU READ THIS WARNING

Carl F. Worden

11/07/07

Most of my loyal readers are now keenly aware of my ability to

anticipate social change and the direction of the economy. I am

also pretty good at predicting political strategies and outcomes,

and based on a few comments I've read from various blogs and media

sources, I believe I know what tactics will be used by corporate

interests and rival political groups in an attempt to destroy the

credibility of presidential candidate Ron Paul.

While very subtle at this point, Ron Paul's adversaries will

ultimately resort to a full-blown attack based upon an alleged

support of Ron Paul by anti-Semitic racist "skin heads", and Ron, if

you are reading this, take my counsel and immediately diffuse the

bomb these liars are planning to use against you, because I can

guarantee you that this will be the tactic they will resort to.

Example: We have a very popular and conservative radio talk show

host here in the Rogue Valley of Oregon who organized several

rallies to show citizen support for stronger border control and

strict enforcement of immigration law. Several hundred decent,

mainstream citizens showed up to show their support, but guess who

also showed up? Standing on the corner where every passing driver

could see was a shaved-headed White Supremacist who had unfurled his

White Power/KKK/Christian Identity-type flags.

Now what message did that send? For all I know, these people could

have been recruited by pro-amnesty forces to discredit the

demonstration, and I fully expect Ron Paul's enemies to use the same

tactics against him. The message will be that Ron Paul has skin-

head racists supporting him, therefore Ron Paul must also be a

person who supports the ideology of these morons.

The tactic is proven to work. It is tantamount to asking the

question, "When did you stop beating your wife"? The victim is

placed in a position to prove a negative, which cannot be done, so

what I am attempting to do is this: Ron Paul, these slanderers will

resort to this tactic sooner or later, and you need to decide what

steps to take right now to deal with it.

There is absolutely nothing in Ron Paul's past to suggest he is

racist or anti-Semitic whatsoever, but I have read little snippets

here and there that suggest support for Mr. Paul by White

Supremacists, people Mr. Paul has never met or asked to support him.

Nevertheless, I have considered every dirty trick available that is

used to destroy a man personally if they cannot discredit his

message, and by process of elimination and what is available, this

is the only route left to these vicious and evil people.

In article <tcqjj358nmg01iaim47uc6lqjv4c8ev85f@4ax.com>,

The Observer <observer@every.where> wrote:

> As many of you already know the American "two-party" political

> system has become a sham in recent decades. No candidate

> can gain the Presidential nomination without having the full

> blessing of the establishment power elite. Since Ron Paul

> is not a robot clone who can be counted on to continue bus-

> iness as usual, he will not be allowed to get anywhere near

> the Republican party nomination. Therefore the mass media

> will completely ignore him and hope that he just fades away.

> If that fails - as now appears to be the case - they will begin

> an all-out attack campaign to try to smear him as an

> extremist. The same thing happened to Pat Buchanan

> in '96. When Buchanan did well in the first couple of

> Republican primaries the establisment went BONKERS.

> Immediately stories began to circulate about Klansmen,

> neo-nazis, skinheads etc working for the Buchanan

> campaign somewhere or another. That's how the

> shysters who now run things operate and we should

> expect the same tactics to be used against Ron Paul.

> Note what the attached blog piece has to say about

> it. Also, if somehow Paul managed to weather this

> storm and looked like he had a serious chance, his

> life would be in jeopardy. The oligarchs who run things

> play rough and would do whatever it takes to prevent

> someone they don't control from sitting in the Oval

> Office.

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

>

> RON PAUL, I HOPE YOU READ THIS WARNING

>

> Carl F. Worden

>

> 11/07/07

>

> Most of my loyal readers are now keenly aware of my ability to

> anticipate social change and the direction of the economy. I am

> also pretty good at predicting political strategies and outcomes,

> and based on a few comments I've read from various blogs and media

> sources, I believe I know what tactics will be used by corporate

> interests and rival political groups in an attempt to destroy the

> credibility of presidential candidate Ron Paul.

>

> While very subtle at this point, Ron Paul's adversaries will

> ultimately resort to a full-blown attack based upon an alleged

> support of Ron Paul by anti-Semitic racist "skin heads", and Ron, if

> you are reading this, take my counsel and immediately diffuse the

> bomb these liars are planning to use against you, because I can

> guarantee you that this will be the tactic they will resort to.

>

> Example: We have a very popular and conservative radio talk show

> host here in the Rogue Valley of Oregon who organized several

> rallies to show citizen support for stronger border control and

> strict enforcement of immigration law. Several hundred decent,

> mainstream citizens showed up to show their support, but guess who

> also showed up? Standing on the corner where every passing driver

> could see was a shaved-headed White Supremacist who had unfurled his

> White Power/KKK/Christian Identity-type flags.

>

> Now what message did that send? For all I know, these people could

> have been recruited by pro-amnesty forces to discredit the

> demonstration, and I fully expect Ron Paul's enemies to use the same

> tactics against him. The message will be that Ron Paul has skin-

> head racists supporting him, therefore Ron Paul must also be a

> person who supports the ideology of these morons.

>

> The tactic is proven to work. It is tantamount to asking the

> question, "When did you stop beating your wife"? The victim is

> placed in a position to prove a negative, which cannot be done, so

> what I am attempting to do is this: Ron Paul, these slanderers will

> resort to this tactic sooner or later, and you need to decide what

> steps to take right now to deal with it.

>

> There is absolutely nothing in Ron Paul's past to suggest he is

> racist or anti-Semitic whatsoever, but I have read little snippets

> here and there that suggest support for Mr. Paul by White

> Supremacists, people Mr. Paul has never met or asked to support him.

> Nevertheless, I have considered every dirty trick available that is

> used to destroy a man personally if they cannot discredit his

> message, and by process of elimination and what is available, this

> is the only route left to these vicious and evil people.

I understand what you're saying, but it's bullshit. Racists, White

Supremacists, CI adherents, Black Supremacists, Nation of Islam, La

Razans, etc vote Repub and Democrat regularly and it doesn't diminish

them.

Imam

--

If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention.

In article <imam-A637BF.13401913112007@news.motzarella.org>,

Imam Contemptus Mundi <imam@divinepraxeology.org> wrote:

> In article <tcqjj358nmg01iaim47uc6lqjv4c8ev85f@4ax.com>,

> The Observer <observer@every.where> wrote:

>

> > As many of you already know the American "two-party" political

> > system has become a sham in recent decades. No candidate

> > can gain the Presidential nomination without having the full

> > blessing of the establishment power elite. Since Ron Paul

> > is not a robot clone who can be counted on to continue bus-

> > iness as usual, he will not be allowed to get anywhere near

> > the Republican party nomination. Therefore the mass media

> > will completely ignore him and hope that he just fades away.

> > If that fails - as now appears to be the case - they will begin

> > an all-out attack campaign to try to smear him as an

> > extremist. The same thing happened to Pat Buchanan

> > in '96. When Buchanan did well in the first couple of

> > Republican primaries the establisment went BONKERS.

> > Immediately stories began to circulate about Klansmen,

> > neo-nazis, skinheads etc working for the Buchanan

> > campaign somewhere or another. That's how the

> > shysters who now run things operate and we should

> > expect the same tactics to be used against Ron Paul.

> > Note what the attached blog piece has to say about

> > it. Also, if somehow Paul managed to weather this

> > storm and looked like he had a serious chance, his

> > life would be in jeopardy. The oligarchs who run things

> > play rough and would do whatever it takes to prevent

> > someone they don't control from sitting in the Oval

> > Office.

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >

> >

> > RON PAUL, I HOPE YOU READ THIS WARNING

> >

> > Carl F. Worden

> >

> > 11/07/07

> >

> > Most of my loyal readers are now keenly aware of my ability to

> > anticipate social change and the direction of the economy. I am

> > also pretty good at predicting political strategies and outcomes,

> > and based on a few comments I've read from various blogs and media

> > sources, I believe I know what tactics will be used by corporate

> > interests and rival political groups in an attempt to destroy the

> > credibility of presidential candidate Ron Paul.

> >

> > While very subtle at this point, Ron Paul's adversaries will

> > ultimately resort to a full-blown attack based upon an alleged

> > support of Ron Paul by anti-Semitic racist "skin heads", and Ron, if

> > you are reading this, take my counsel and immediately diffuse the

> > bomb these liars are planning to use against you, because I can

> > guarantee you that this will be the tactic they will resort to.

> >

> > Example: We have a very popular and conservative radio talk show

> > host here in the Rogue Valley of Oregon who organized several

> > rallies to show citizen support for stronger border control and

> > strict enforcement of immigration law. Several hundred decent,

> > mainstream citizens showed up to show their support, but guess who

> > also showed up? Standing on the corner where every passing driver

> > could see was a shaved-headed White Supremacist who had unfurled his

> > White Power/KKK/Christian Identity-type flags.

> >

> > Now what message did that send? For all I know, these people could

> > have been recruited by pro-amnesty forces to discredit the

> > demonstration, and I fully expect Ron Paul's enemies to use the same

> > tactics against him. The message will be that Ron Paul has skin-

> > head racists supporting him, therefore Ron Paul must also be a

> > person who supports the ideology of these morons.

> >

> > The tactic is proven to work. It is tantamount to asking the

> > question, "When did you stop beating your wife"? The victim is

> > placed in a position to prove a negative, which cannot be done, so

> > what I am attempting to do is this: Ron Paul, these slanderers will

> > resort to this tactic sooner or later, and you need to decide what

> > steps to take right now to deal with it.

> >

> > There is absolutely nothing in Ron Paul's past to suggest he is

> > racist or anti-Semitic whatsoever, but I have read little snippets

> > here and there that suggest support for Mr. Paul by White

> > Supremacists, people Mr. Paul has never met or asked to support him.

> > Nevertheless, I have considered every dirty trick available that is

> > used to destroy a man personally if they cannot discredit his

> > message, and by process of elimination and what is available, this

> > is the only route left to these vicious and evil people.

>

I understand what you're saying, but it's bullshit. Racists, White

Supremacists, CI adherents, Black Supremacists, Nation of Islam, La

Razans, etc vote Repub and Democrat regularly and it doesn't diminish

them.

Imam

--

If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention.

The Observer <observer@every.where> wrote:

>

>As many of you already know the American "two-party" political

>system has become a sham in recent decades. No candidate

>can gain the Presidential nomination without having the full

>blessing of the establishment power elite. Since Ron Paul

>is not a robot clone who can be counted on to continue bus-

>iness as usual, he will not be allowed to get anywhere near

>the Republican party nomination.

The fact is that the white middle-class and working-class have

been effectively disenfranchised. Nobody in the federal govt

represents their interests. They're stuck between and a rock

and a hard place with one party working for racial minorities

and the welfare class and the other party for corporate

interests and the very wealthy. Almost anything which

might upset this state of affairs is worth a try. So the bosses

have to frighten them into believing that anyone wanting to

change the status quo must be something evil - like a

neo-nazi or a racist skinhead.

>

>There is absolutely nothing in Ron Paul's past to suggest he is

>racist or anti-Semitic whatsoever, but I have read little snippets

>here and there that suggest support for Mr. Paul by White

>Supremacists

The definition of a "White Supremacist" is anyone who does

not support the status quo 100%.

Although Dr Paul has never used the J-word in any context AFAIK,

he does advocate dismantling the Leviathan State and the Federal

Reserve - both of which a certain ethnic group were instrumental

in creating and operating. So I'm sure that they must feel that

he would be threat to their power. Also, he's one of the few members

of Congress who don't vote 100% for what the Israel lobby wants.

If he doesn't follow AIPAC's orders that automatically qualifies him

as an "anti-semite".

He'll lose, become a folk hero to a bunch of loser crackpots, and give

speeches in the "community rooms" of malls across the southwest.

"The Observer" <observer@every.where> wrote in message

news:tcqjj358nmg01iaim47uc6lqjv4c8ev85f@4ax.com...

>

> As many of you already know the American "two-party" political

> system has become a sham in recent decades. No candidate

> can gain the Presidential nomination without having the full

> blessing of the establishment power elite. Since Ron Paul

> is not a robot clone who can be counted on to continue bus-

> iness as usual, he will not be allowed to get anywhere near

> the Republican party nomination. Therefore the mass media

> will completely ignore him and hope that he just fades away.

> If that fails - as now appears to be the case - they will begin

> an all-out attack campaign to try to smear him as an

> extremist. The same thing happened to Pat Buchanan

> in '96. When Buchanan did well in the first couple of

> Republican primaries the establisment went BONKERS.

> Immediately stories began to circulate about Klansmen,

> neo-nazis, skinheads etc working for the Buchanan

> campaign somewhere or another. That's how the

> shysters who now run things operate and we should

> expect the same tactics to be used against Ron Paul.

> Note what the attached blog piece has to say about

> it. Also, if somehow Paul managed to weather this

> storm and looked like he had a serious chance, his

> life would be in jeopardy. The oligarchs who run things

> play rough and would do whatever it takes to prevent

> someone they don't control from sitting in the Oval

> Office.

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

>

> RON PAUL, I HOPE YOU READ THIS WARNING

>

> Carl F. Worden

>

> 11/07/07

>

> Most of my loyal readers are now keenly aware of my ability to

> anticipate social change and the direction of the economy. I am

> also pretty good at predicting political strategies and outcomes,

> and based on a few comments I've read from various blogs and media

> sources, I believe I know what tactics will be used by corporate

> interests and rival political groups in an attempt to destroy the

> credibility of presidential candidate Ron Paul.

>

> While very subtle at this point, Ron Paul's adversaries will

> ultimately resort to a full-blown attack based upon an alleged

> support of Ron Paul by anti-Semitic racist "skin heads", and Ron, if

> you are reading this, take my counsel and immediately diffuse the

> bomb these liars are planning to use against you, because I can

> guarantee you that this will be the tactic they will resort to.

>

> Example: We have a very popular and conservative radio talk show

> host here in the Rogue Valley of Oregon who organized several

> rallies to show citizen support for stronger border control and

> strict enforcement of immigration law. Several hundred decent,

> mainstream citizens showed up to show their support, but guess who

> also showed up? Standing on the corner where every passing driver

> could see was a shaved-headed White Supremacist who had unfurled his

> White Power/KKK/Christian Identity-type flags.

>

> Now what message did that send? For all I know, these people could

> have been recruited by pro-amnesty forces to discredit the

> demonstration, and I fully expect Ron Paul's enemies to use the same

> tactics against him. The message will be that Ron Paul has skin-

> head racists supporting him, therefore Ron Paul must also be a

> person who supports the ideology of these morons.

>

> The tactic is proven to work. It is tantamount to asking the

> question, "When did you stop beating your wife"? The victim is

> placed in a position to prove a negative, which cannot be done, so

> what I am attempting to do is this: Ron Paul, these slanderers will

> resort to this tactic sooner or later, and you need to decide what

> steps to take right now to deal with it.

>

> There is absolutely nothing in Ron Paul's past to suggest he is

> racist or anti-Semitic whatsoever, but I have read little snippets

> here and there that suggest support for Mr. Paul by White

> Supremacists, people Mr. Paul has never met or asked to support him.

> Nevertheless, I have considered every dirty trick available that is

> used to destroy a man personally if they cannot discredit his

> message, and by process of elimination and what is available, this

> is the only route left to these vicious and evil people.

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:31:15 -0800, m hart wrote:

>

>

> The Observer <observer@every.where> wrote:

>

>>

>>As many of you already know the American "two-party" political

>>system has become a sham in recent decades. No candidate

>>can gain the Presidential nomination without having the full

>>blessing of the establishment power elite. Since Ron Paul

>>is not a robot clone who can be counted on to continue bus-

>>iness as usual, he will not be allowed to get anywhere near

>>the Republican party nomination.

>

> The fact is that the white middle-class and working-class have

> been effectively disenfranchised. Nobody in the federal govt

> represents their interests. They're stuck between and a rock

> and a hard place with one party working for racial minorities

> and the welfare class and the other party for corporate

> interests and the very wealthy. Almost anything which

> might upset this state of affairs is worth a try. So the bosses

> have to frighten them into believing that anyone wanting to

> change the status quo must be something evil - like a

> neo-nazi or a racist skinhead.

Precisely, FUD, Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. Both major parties engage

in the same disgusting practice and have colluded to prevent any rational

candidate from participating in the electoral process.

This is why the First American Revolution was fought, lack of

representation. If Ron Paul fails our nation is doomed until a massive

uprising throws the bastards out.

>>There is absolutely nothing in Ron Paul's past to suggest he is racist

>>or anti-Semitic whatsoever, but I have read little snippets here and

>>there that suggest support for Mr. Paul by White Supremacists

>

> The definition of a "White Supremacist" is anyone who does not support

> the status quo 100%.

So what if white supremacists vote for Ron Paul? He's already getting

massive support from the educated and rational. The more the better! I

hope the greens, consitutional party, Republicans, Democrats, reform

party, socialists, socialists (highly unlikely), la raza, and others cross

over and help elect Doctor Paul.

Just because they're wacked out on some issues doesn't mean their votes

for a rational candidate shouldn't be counted. Nor does it mean that Ron

Paul will alter his proven track record for them.

> Although Dr Paul has never used the J-word in any context AFAIK, he does

> advocate dismantling the Leviathan State and the Federal Reserve - both

> of which a certain ethnic group were instrumental in creating and

> operating. So I'm sure that they must feel that he would be threat to

> their power. Also, he's one of the few members of Congress who don't

> vote 100% for what the Israel lobby wants. If he doesn't follow AIPAC's

> orders that automatically qualifies him as an "anti-semite".

Right, Ron Paul's track record speaks for itself. In his 20+ years of

service I defy anyone to show one statement that shows racism.

-- Regards, Curly

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Time to dust off Madam Guillotine

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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:40:40 -0800, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>

wrote:

>He'll lose, become a folk hero to a bunch of loser crackpots, and give

>speeches in the "community rooms" of malls across the southwest.

How Algor get into the conversation?

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.

Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)

off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give

them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you

for torturing the cat." Gunner

"What will happen to Ron Paul"?

They'll try and Ross Perot him.

"Curly" <curly.is.not@home.com> wrote in message

news:pan.2007.11.13.23.50.37.485482@home.com...

> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:31:15 -0800, m hart wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> The Observer <observer@every.where> wrote:

>>

>>>

>>>As many of you already know the American "two-party" political

>>>system has become a sham in recent decades. No candidate

>>>can gain the Presidential nomination without having the full

>>>blessing of the establishment power elite. Since Ron Paul

>>>is not a robot clone who can be counted on to continue bus-

>>>iness as usual, he will not be allowed to get anywhere near

>>>the Republican party nomination.

>>

>> The fact is that the white middle-class and working-class have

>> been effectively disenfranchised. Nobody in the federal govt

>> represents their interests. They're stuck between and a rock

>> and a hard place with one party working for racial minorities

>> and the welfare class and the other party for corporate

>> interests and the very wealthy. Almost anything which

>> might upset this state of affairs is worth a try. So the bosses

>> have to frighten them into believing that anyone wanting to

>> change the status quo must be something evil - like a

>> neo-nazi or a racist skinhead.

>

> Precisely, FUD, Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. Both major parties engage

> in the same disgusting practice and have colluded to prevent any rational

> candidate from participating in the electoral process.

>

> This is why the First American Revolution was fought, lack of

> representation. If Ron Paul fails our nation is doomed until a massive

> uprising throws the bastards out.

What about Tom Tancredo?

>

>>>There is absolutely nothing in Ron Paul's past to suggest he is racist

>>>or anti-Semitic whatsoever, but I have read little snippets here and

>>>there that suggest support for Mr. Paul by White Supremacists

>>

>> The definition of a "White Supremacist" is anyone who does not support

>> the status quo 100%.

These days, the definition of a white supremacist is someone like Charleton

Heston - or anyone that wants to get back the Leave it to Beaver days.

Heh - didn't you know that? And so, what's wrong with that? Nothing, I

say.

>

> So what if white supremacists vote for Ron Paul? He's already getting

> massive support from the educated and rational. The more the better! I

> hope the greens, consitutional party, Republicans, Democrats, reform

> party, socialists, socialists (highly unlikely), la raza, and others cross

> over and help elect Doctor Paul.

Got news for you. The guy heading the Socialist party is AGAINST illegal

alien amnesty and all that. Got that info from Info Numbers. I faxes the

guy, lemme find his name if I can... nope can't find it. But I faxed him.

Praised him for voting like Info numbers wants.

>

> Just because they're wacked out on some issues doesn't mean their votes

> for a rational candidate shouldn't be counted. Nor does it mean that Ron

> Paul will alter his proven track record for them.

The question is, just how rational IS Ron Paul. Yeah yeah, the

constitution. The USA is not small anymore. It's BIG. I do not want to

see Social Security INSURANCE I paid for vanish, or Medicare, which I also

paid for vanish. NO WAY can that happen - the freaking working poor are

already poor enough - and they have to REDEFINE "poor" these days. That

whole "small govenment" blah blah is what caused the Depression in 1929.

Under Teddy Roosevelt, it was realized that it was going to take GOV to

regulate some things that concerned the public. They did it and it was

fine, good - everyone benefited. Then they backed off, let it all slide -

and boom, Robber Barons took over, kinda like Cheney and his Haliburtan pals

getting no cap, no bid competition contracts to build Iraq BEFORE the war

even got waged by W - before Iraq got wrecked. Kinda like the 4 freaking

million bucks our taxes paid for meals that never got served over there.

Heh. FDR ushered in the New Deal - and the way it was at that time was

GOOD - it resulted in the 1950s good times everyone had, a family wage, good

life, all that - an economy in balance - quality of life very high and very

good. It was abused and distorted by the culture warriors (doctrinaire

cultural marxists and frankfurt school) - and from then on the republicans

have been trying to heave out the baby with the rotten bath water. This

country is BROKEN - and I can understand WHY there are so many movements now

to seceed, Vermont only being one of them. It's BROKEN. Maybe it can't be

fixed anymore - not after what this regime has done - and here I'm not

talking about the fucking neocons and their hijacking of our foreign policy.

I'm talking about outright murderers, criminals, racketeers - OUR GOV.

That IS what they are. Sure, the Jewish lobbyists want the Hispanic

illegals and other 3rd worlders here in order to diminish the Euro

Christians being a majority (they openly said that) - but the Robber Barons

of our day want them here for SLAVE/cheap labor. Period. We can't have a

free for all anarchic free market - it just does not work in a huge country.

Corporatins can NOT keep having the same damned rights as individuals -

because they are WAY more powerful. Take a look around - the fucking

country is BROKEN. We NEED New Deal back again, the right way, not the way

that parasites come and abuse it (citizens AND illegals both). We need

NATIONALISM too - and Monroe Doctrine. Buchanan on foreign policy.

Tancredo on immigration policy. Buchanan on LABOR too, in case no one

noticed his labor stance! Maybe Edwards on health insurance - but ONLY for

citizens. That's what the Dems never make clear - they say universal health

care - but WHO are they gonna give that to?

We need a FLAT tax - so that every single person pays into it. Not just

some. We have socialism for SOME right now - but not for me. God dammit -

I NEED that too. I pay into it. End property taxes. Make a big flat tax.

SOMEONE has to come and do this - and maybe it would fix things.

>

>> Although Dr Paul has never used the J-word in any context AFAIK, he does

>> advocate dismantling the Leviathan State and the Federal Reserve - both

>> of which a certain ethnic group were instrumental in creating and

>> operating. So I'm sure that they must feel that he would be threat to

>> their power.

They have every vested interest in busting Ron Paul down into

insignificance. They have so much god damned power that they even managed

to swich Clinton and Obama on the Iraq issue. I can't fathom why people

just don't stand up to them. What the fuck does it take? Right, they only

just smashed the Czar once before and took over 11 freaking time zones,

exterminated 20 million peasants and other shit like that - but heh, that's

WHY Hitler thought what he thought, and did what he did. DUH. the US

presidents of the day and English knew what was going on. How STUPID of

Churchill to declare war - he DOOMED the entire fate of the Europeans by

doing that - in Europe and in the USA. DOOMED them all.

Also, he's one of the few members of Congress who don't

>> vote 100% for what the Israel lobby wants. If he doesn't follow AIPAC's

>> orders that automatically qualifies him as an "anti-semite".

You bet. Anyone against the Iraeli Lobby is "anti semite" and ripe for

crucifixtion. You didn't know that? They already ruined Buchahan. They

even tried on Jimmy Carter - and the world can see how heavy handed they can

be when they do shit like that.

>

> Right, Ron Paul's track record speaks for itself. In his 20+ years of

> service I defy anyone to show one statement that shows racism.

You don't have to be a racist to be branded one. Ask Charleton Heston.

Read his speech - I posted it on a new thread. So then, what's wrong with

racism? I prefer to avoid some races because it is RATIONAL to avoid them -

as Dinesh Desousa explained for those that didn't get it. I prefer some

races over others. It's my freedom of choice. I believe that some races

CAN NOT live among us here. It just doesn't work out. So - DO the

reasonable thing. Segregate them. I could care less what anyone thinks of

what I just said. I stand firm because I'm being logical about it. Nothing

is gonna budge me - especially not some stupid fucking name someone might

hurl my way.

>

> -- Regards, Curly

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> Time to dust off Madam Guillotine

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>

The last two presidents who challenged the bankers were assassinated.

The Observer <observer@every.where> wrote:

> The message will be that Ron Paul has skin-

> head racists supporting him, therefore Ron Paul must also be a

> person who supports the ideology of these morons.

When the KKK was going strong at 8 million members it existed entirely

in states that voted heavily democrat, yet when the press talks about a

dozen KKK members they are always described as right wing and supporting

a republican candidate. The KKK was created by ex-confederate soldiers

and the confederate states all voted democrat just before th Civil War.

The KKK was clearly a democrat thing.

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:20:14 -0800, the_blogologist wrote:

> The last two presidents who challenged the bankers were assassinated.

>

> The Observer <observer@every.where> wrote:

>

>> The message will be that Ron Paul has skin-

>> head racists supporting him, therefore Ron Paul must also be a

>> person who supports the ideology of these morons.

>

> When the KKK was going strong at 8 million members it existed entirely

> in states that voted heavily democrat, yet when the press talks about a

> dozen KKK members they are always described as right wing and supporting

> a republican candidate. The KKK was created by ex-confederate soldiers

> and the confederate states all voted democrat just before th Civil War.

> The KKK was clearly a democrat thing.

Right, that was when they were called "Dixie-crats". They moved to the

Republican Party later.

-- Regards, Curly

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"Curly" <curly.is.not@home.com> wrote in message

news:pan.2007.11.14.20.16.08.269233@home.com...

> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:20:14 -0800, the_blogologist wrote:

>

>> The last two presidents who challenged the bankers were assassinated.

>>

>> The Observer <observer@every.where> wrote:

>>

>>> The message will be that Ron Paul has skin-

>>> head racists supporting him, therefore Ron Paul must also be a

>>> person who supports the ideology of these morons.

>>

>> When the KKK was going strong at 8 million members it existed entirely

>> in states that voted heavily democrat, yet when the press talks about a

>> dozen KKK members they are always described as right wing and supporting

>> a republican candidate. The KKK was created by ex-confederate soldiers

>> and the confederate states all voted democrat just before th Civil War.

>> The KKK was clearly a democrat thing.

>

> Right, that was when they were called "Dixie-crats". They moved to the

> Republican Party later.

Except for Zell Miller.

>

> -- Regards, Curly

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Time to dust off Madam Guillotine

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:16:08 -0800, Curly <curly.is.not@home.com>

wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:20:14 -0800, the_blogologist wrote:

>

>> The last two presidents who challenged the bankers were assassinated.

>>

>> The Observer <observer@every.where> wrote:

>>

>>> The message will be that Ron Paul has skin-

>>> head racists supporting him, therefore Ron Paul must also be a

>>> person who supports the ideology of these morons.

>>

>> When the KKK was going strong at 8 million members it existed entirely

>> in states that voted heavily democrat, yet when the press talks about a

>> dozen KKK members they are always described as right wing and supporting

>> a republican candidate. The KKK was created by ex-confederate soldiers

>> and the confederate states all voted democrat just before th Civil War.

>> The KKK was clearly a democrat thing.

>

>Right, that was when they were called "Dixie-crats". They moved to the

>Republican Party later.

>

>-- Regards, Curly

So that explains why the senior ranking Democrat was the Grand Kleagle

of the KKK?

Gunner

On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:12:01 -0800, Gunner wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:16:08 -0800, Curly <curly.is.not@home.com> wrote:

>

>>On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:20:14 -0800, the_blogologist wrote:

>>

>>> The last two presidents who challenged the bankers were assassinated.

>>>

>>> The Observer <observer@every.where> wrote:

>>>

>>>> The message will be that Ron Paul has skin- head racists supporting

>>>> him, therefore Ron Paul must also be a person who supports the

>>>> ideology of these morons.

>>>

>>> When the KKK was going strong at 8 million members it existed entirely

>>> in states that voted heavily democrat, yet when the press talks about a

>>> dozen KKK members they are always described as right wing and

>>> supporting a republican candidate. The KKK was created by

>>> ex-confederate soldiers and the confederate states all voted democrat

>>> just before th Civil War. The KKK was clearly a democrat thing.

>>

>>Right, that was when they were called "Dixie-crats". They moved to the

>>Republican Party later.

>>

>>-- Regards, Curly

>

> So that explains why the senior ranking Democrat was the Grand Kleagle of

> the KKK?

>

> Gunner

Ah, I expected your misdirection to be better. "Was" vs. "is". By that

measure all Austrians will forever be evil because of Hitler.

Pitiful, gunner, downright pitiful.

-- Regards, Curly

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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:29:10 -0800, Curly <curly.is.not@home.com>

wrote:

>>>

>>>Right, that was when they were called "Dixie-crats". They moved to the

>>>Republican Party later.

>>>

>>>-- Regards, Curly

>>

>> So that explains why the senior ranking Democrat was the Grand Kleagle of

>> the KKK?

>>

>> Gunner

>

>Ah, I expected your misdirection to be better. "Was" vs. "is". By that

>measure all Austrians will forever be evil because of Hitler.

>

>Pitiful, gunner, downright pitiful.

>

>-- Regards, Curly

So you are admitting to having lied.

And are now trying to cover it up.

Thank you, fagboi

Gunner

On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:55:10 -0800, Gunner wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:29:10 -0800, Curly <curly.is.not@home.com>

> wrote:

>

>>>>

>>>>Right, that was when they were called "Dixie-crats". They moved to the

>>>>Republican Party later.

>>>>

>>>>-- Regards, Curly

>>>

>>> So that explains why the senior ranking Democrat was the Grand Kleagle of

>>> the KKK?

>>>

>>> Gunner

>>

>>Ah, I expected your misdirection to be better. "Was" vs. "is". By that

>>measure all Austrians will forever be evil because of Hitler.

>>

>>Pitiful, gunner, downright pitiful.

>>

>>-- Regards, Curly

>

>

> So you are admitting to having lied.

Off your meds again? Hearing voices in your thick head?

> And are now trying to cover it up.

What are you babbling about now? Oh, right, Rovian trick to redirect a

touchy subject or lie. When are you going to throw in some homoerotic

fantasy?

> Thank you, fagboi

Don't come near me.

-- Regards, Curly

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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:55:10 -0800, Gunner

<gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:29:10 -0800, Curly <curly.is.not@home.com>

>wrote:

>

>>>>

>>>>Right, that was when they were called "Dixie-crats". They moved to the

>>>>Republican Party later.

>>>>

>>>>-- Regards, Curly

>>>

>>> So that explains why the senior ranking Democrat was the Grand Kleagle of

>>> the KKK?

>>>

>>> Gunner

>>

>>Ah, I expected your misdirection to be better. "Was" vs. "is". By that

>>measure all Austrians will forever be evil because of Hitler.

>>

>>Pitiful, gunner, downright pitiful.

>>

>>-- Regards, Curly

>

>

>So you are admitting to having lied.

>And are now trying to cover it up.

>

>Thank you, fagboi

Would that equate to something along the lines of having paid one's

hospital bills and only owing 20,000 dollars? Or perhaps bragging

about not having any debt during the same time frame?

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:08:43 -0800, Gunner Asch

<gunner@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:40:40 -0800, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>

>wrote:

>

>>He'll lose, become a folk hero to a bunch of loser crackpots, and give

>>speeches in the "community rooms" of malls across the southwest.

>

>

>How Algor get into the conversation?

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=071116200241.x6bx7kpa&show_article=1

Former US vice president Al Gore will make a triumphant return to the

White House on November 26 when US President George W. Bush honors US

Nobel Prize winners, a Bush spokesman said Friday.

On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:37:31 -0800, Curly <curly.is.not@home.com>

wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:55:10 -0800, Gunner wrote:

>

>> On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:29:10 -0800, Curly <curly.is.not@home.com>

>> wrote:

>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Right, that was when they were called "Dixie-crats". They moved to the

>>>>>Republican Party later.

>>>>>

>>>>>-- Regards, Curly

>>>>

>>>> So that explains why the senior ranking Democrat was the Grand Kleagle of

>>>> the KKK?

>>>>

>>>> Gunner

>>>

>>>Ah, I expected your misdirection to be better. "Was" vs. "is". By that

>>>measure all Austrians will forever be evil because of Hitler.

>>>

>>>Pitiful, gunner, downright pitiful.

>>>

>>>-- Regards, Curly

>>

>>

>> So you are admitting to having lied.

>

>Off your meds again? Hearing voices in your thick head?

First you admit having lied, how you are trying to cover it up.

Pathetic

>

>> And are now trying to cover it up.

>

>What are you babbling about now? Oh, right, Rovian trick to redirect a

>touchy subject or lie. When are you going to throw in some homoerotic

>fantasy?

So you are trying to weasel out admitting you lied.

>

>> Thank you, fagboi

>

>Don't come near me.

Of course not. Id hate to put that sort of temptation in front of you.

It wouild be pretty gross to have you begging to be buggered.

Gunner

>

>-- Regards, Curly

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On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:26:58 -0800, Gunner

<gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:37:31 -0800, Curly <curly.is.not@home.com>

>wrote:

>

>>On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:55:10 -0800, Gunner wrote:

>>

>>> On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:29:10 -0800, Curly <curly.is.not@home.com>

>>> wrote:

>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Right, that was when they were called "Dixie-crats". They moved to the

>>>>>>Republican Party later.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>-- Regards, Curly

>>>>>

>>>>> So that explains why the senior ranking Democrat was the Grand Kleagle of

>>>>> the KKK?

>>>>>

>>>>> Gunner

>>>>

>>>>Ah, I expected your misdirection to be better. "Was" vs. "is". By that

>>>>measure all Austrians will forever be evil because of Hitler.

>>>>

>>>>Pitiful, gunner, downright pitiful.

>>>>

>>>>-- Regards, Curly

>>>

>>>

>>> So you are admitting to having lied.

>>

>>Off your meds again? Hearing voices in your thick head?

>

>First you admit having lied, how you are trying to cover it up.

>

>Pathetic

Did the voices tell you that?

>>

>>> And are now trying to cover it up.

>>

>>What are you babbling about now? Oh, right, Rovian trick to redirect a

>>touchy subject or lie. When are you going to throw in some homoerotic

>>fantasy?

>

>So you are trying to weasel out admitting you lied.

>>

>>> Thank you, fagboi

>>

>>Don't come near me.

>

>Of course not. Id hate to put that sort of temptation in front of you.

>It wouild be pretty gross to have you begging to be buggered.

Still looking for a date I see.

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:15:19 -0800, The Observer

<observer@every.where> wrote:

>

>As many of you already know the American "two-party" political

>system has become a sham in recent decades. No candidate

>can gain the Presidential nomination without having the full

>blessing of the establishment power elite. Since Ron Paul

>is not a robot clone who can be counted on to continue bus-

>iness as usual, he will not be allowed to get anywhere near

>the Republican party nomination.

No kidding, and thank you by the way for not being one of the

idiot neo nazis who think that the wealthy and powerful are all Jews.

>Therefore the mass media

>will completely ignore him and hope that he just fades away.

They certainly ignored his expose of the fiat money system as

a sham, and his advice that the US should go back to the gold standard

was treated like heresy, when it was mentioned at all.

>If that fails - as now appears to be the case - they will begin

>an all-out attack campaign to try to smear him as an

>extremist. The same thing happened to Pat Buchanan

>in '96. When Buchanan did well in the first couple of

>Republican primaries the establisment went BONKERS.

>Immediately stories began to circulate about Klansmen,

>neo-nazis, skinheads etc working for the Buchanan

>campaign somewhere or another. That's how the

>shysters who now run things operate and we should

>expect the same tactics to be used against Ron Paul.

>Note what the attached blog piece has to say about

>it. Also, if somehow Paul managed to weather this

>storm and looked like he had a serious chance, his

>life would be in jeopardy. The oligarchs who run things

>play rough and would do whatever it takes to prevent

>someone they don't control from sitting in the Oval

>Office.

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

>

>RON PAUL, I HOPE YOU READ THIS WARNING

>

>Carl F. Worden

>

>11/07/07

>

>Most of my loyal readers are now keenly aware of my ability to

>anticipate social change and the direction of the economy. I am

>also pretty good at predicting political strategies and outcomes,

>and based on a few comments I've read from various blogs and media

>sources, I believe I know what tactics will be used by corporate

>interests and rival political groups in an attempt to destroy the

>credibility of presidential candidate Ron Paul.

>

>While very subtle at this point, Ron Paul's adversaries will

>ultimately resort to a full-blown attack based upon an alleged

>support of Ron Paul by anti-Semitic racist "skin heads", and Ron, if

>you are reading this, take my counsel and immediately diffuse the

>bomb these liars are planning to use against you, because I can

>guarantee you that this will be the tactic they will resort to.

>

>Example: We have a very popular and conservative radio talk show

>host here in the Rogue Valley of Oregon who organized several

>rallies to show citizen support for stronger border control and

>strict enforcement of immigration law. Several hundred decent,

>mainstream citizens showed up to show their support, but guess who

>also showed up? Standing on the corner where every passing driver

>could see was a shaved-headed White Supremacist who had unfurled his

>White Power/KKK/Christian Identity-type flags.

>

>Now what message did that send? For all I know, these people could

>have been recruited by pro-amnesty forces to discredit the

>demonstration, and I fully expect Ron Paul's enemies to use the same

>tactics against him. The message will be that Ron Paul has skin-

>head racists supporting him, therefore Ron Paul must also be a

>person who supports the ideology of these morons.

>

>The tactic is proven to work. It is tantamount to asking the

>question, "When did you stop beating your wife"? The victim is

>placed in a position to prove a negative, which cannot be done, so

>what I am attempting to do is this: Ron Paul, these slanderers will

>resort to this tactic sooner or later, and you need to decide what

>steps to take right now to deal with it.

>

>There is absolutely nothing in Ron Paul's past to suggest he is

>racist or anti-Semitic whatsoever, but I have read little snippets

>here and there that suggest support for Mr. Paul by White

>Supremacists, people Mr. Paul has never met or asked to support him.

>Nevertheless, I have considered every dirty trick available that is

>used to destroy a man personally if they cannot discredit his

>message, and by process of elimination and what is available, this

>is the only route left to these vicious and evil people.