WHY JEWISH OBITUARIES FAKED ON 9/11?

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Why were Jewish obituaries faked on 9/11?

Odigo, an instant messaging service of Israeli ownership, capable of
sending the same msg. to hundreds simultaneously, sent out warnings to many
Jews (# unk, details kept secret) at least 2 hours in advance of the attack.
Two who received those warning went public briefly. Were the Muslim
hijackers concerned about the Jews, and wanted to warn them ahead of time to
not go to work? Why did this Israeli company not warn the other Israeli
companies that were in charge of security of ALL the Airports involved in
9/11?

With two hours advance warning, 9/11 could have been stopped completely, and
no planes get hijacked, because the planes would not have been allowed to
take off. Osama must really like the Jews to take such a risk to warn
them.

In this article below, I checked every single obituary, and none of these
Jewish victims seem to be real--none on the highly accurate Social Security
Death Index, or in the 9/11 Victims compensation lists.

If there were real Jewish victims on 9/11 in the WTC, such a heavily
represented group in investment banking, finance, why did they feel the need
to make some up?

All of the obits are tearfully, poignantly bogus.


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AuthorTopic: The 4,000 Jews Disinformation
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alexi alexis
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5/3/2005 (16:47)



The 4,000 Jews Rumor
Rumor surrounding Sept. 11th proved untrue

Shortly after September 11, 2001, false rumors began to circulate claiming
that 4,000 Jews, or 4,000 Israelis, had failed to report for work at the
World Trade Center (WTC) on 9/11, supposedly because they had been warned to
stay away by Israeli secret services, which were allegedly responsible for
the attack. The claim is totally false.

In a videotape broadcast on October 30, 2004, Osama bin Laden unequivocally
admitted that he and al Qaeda had planned and directed the September 11
attacks. He stated, 'I shall talk to you about the story behind those events
[the September 11 attacks] and shall tell you truthfully about the moments
in which the decision was taken ....' He confirmed his direction of the
details of operational planning, stating, 'for the record, we had agreed
with the Commander-General Muhammad Atta ... that all operations should be
carried out within twenty minutes, before Bush and his administration
notice.'

Moreover, in a videotape made in November 2001 and captured by U.S. forces
in Afghanistan, statements by Osama bin Laden made it clear that he planned
the attacks:

'[W]e calculated in advance the number of casualties from the enemy, who
would be killed based on the position of the tower. We calculated that the
floors that would be hit would be three or four floors. I was the most
optimistic of them all. (...Inaudible...) due to my experience in this
field, I was thinking that the fire from the gas in the plane would melt the
iron structure of the building and collapse the area where the plane hit and
all the floors above it only. ...We had notification since the previous
Thursday that the event would take place that day.'

Vague conspiracy theories blaming Israel began to appear within 24 hours of
the attacks. Syria's government-owned Al Thawra newspaper may have been the
first newspaper to make the '4,000 Jews' claim. According to U.S. embassy
reporting, its September 15th edition falsely claimed 'four thousand Jews
were absent from their work on the day of the explosions.'

The 4,000 figure apparently came from an article entitled 'Hundreds of
Israelis missing in WTC attack' which appeared in the September 12th
internet edition of the Jerusalem Post. It stated, 'The Foreign Ministry in
Jerusalem has so far received the names of 4,000 Israelis believed to have
been in the areas of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon at the time of
the attacks.'

Unknown conspiracy theorists apparently seized upon the 4,000 figure,
transforming it into the false claim that 4,000 Jews did not report for work
at the World Trade Center on September 11.

A total of 2,071 occupants of the World Trade Center died on September 11,
among the 2,749 victims of the WTC attacks. According to an article in the
October 11, 2001, Wall Street Journal, roughly 1,700 people had listed the
religion of a person missing in the WTC attacks; approximately 10% were
Jewish. A later article, in the September 5, 2002, Jewish Week, states,
'based on the list of names, biographical information compiled by The New
York Times, and information from records at the Medical Examiner's Office,
there were at least 400 victims either confirmed or strongly believed to be
Jewish.' This would be approximately 15% of the total victims of the WTC
attacks. A partial list of 390 Cantor Fitzgerald employees who died (out of
658 in the company) lists 49 Jewish memorial services, which is between 12%
and 13%.

This 10-15% estimate of Jewish fatalities tracks closely with the percentage
of Jews living in the New York area. According to the 2002 American Jewish
Year Book, 9% of the population of New York State, where 64% of the WTC
victims lived, is Jewish. A 2002 study estimated that New York City's
population was 12% Jewish. Forty-three percent of the WTC victims lived in
New York City. Thus, the number of Jewish victims correlates very closely
with the number of Jewish residents in New York. If 4,000 Jews had not
reported for work on September 11, the number of Jewish victims would have
been much lower than 10-15%.

The following partial list of 76 Jewish World Trade Center victims includes
many from companies that were located at or above where the planes hit.
These include Cantor Fitzgerald, which lost 658 employees, Marsh & McLellan,
which lost 295 employees, Aon Corporation, which lost 176 employees, and
others.

Lee Alan Adler, 48, was a computer designer at Cantor Fitzgerald. Mr. Adler
was a member of the board of trustees of Temple Beth Ahm in Springfield, New
Jersey, where memorial services were held for him. He was married to his
wife. Alice, for 15 years and had a 12-year old daughter. His daughter wrote
in a February 22, 2002 message on an internet memorial site, 'Daddy I love
you!'

Joshua Aron, 29, was an equities trader at Cantor Fitzgerald. Joshua's
father, Barry Aron, says, 'Not a minute goes by in a day that I don't think
about Josh. ... It's like part of you being ripped out and you can't replace
it.' Barry talks to his son's widow, Rachel daily. Mr. Aron and Rachel would
have celebrated their first wedding anniversary on September 16, 2001.
Memorial services were held at the Oceanside Jewish Center in Oceanside, New
York.

Michael Edward Asher, 53, was vice president and senior technology architect
at Cantor Fitzgerald. On September 10, 2001, he talked with his son Jeremy,
18, about rebuilding an old Jaguar automobile. Mr. Asher was also survived
by his wife Dana and a daughter, Rachel, 16. A memorial service was held for
him at the Monroe Temple of Liberal Judaism in Monroe, New York.

Debbie S. Bellows, 30, was an executive assistant at Cantor Fitzgerald. She
was survived by her husband Sean, who wrote, 'Debbie meant the world to me.
.... My heart will always be filled with the love and beauty that filled her
soul.' A memorial service was held for Ms. Bellows at the Westchester Reform
Temple in Scarsdale, New York.

Alvin Bergsohn, 48, was an equities trader at Cantor Fitzgerald. From a
picture posted on the Internet, it appears that he was survived by a wife
and two sons. A service was held for him at the South Baldwin Jewish Center
in Baldwin Harbor, New York.

Shimmy D. Biegeleisen, 42, was vice president of Fiduciary Trust
International. Susan Townsend, who interviewed for a job at Mr.
Biegeleisen's company, described him 'a genuinely kind and gentle soul, a
man of true integrity.' A friend, Joseph Weinberger, said he was 'a person
with a golden heart, loved everybody, always with a smile.' Another
described him as 'a perfect mix of God-fearing, friendly, and fun.' Tony
Skutnik said he was 'a kind and gentle man, generous and forgiving almost to
a fault.' He was survived by a wife and five children.

Joshua David Birnbaum, 24, was an assistant bond trader at Cantor
Fitzgerald. His best friend, Leehe Matalon, wrote, 'Josh's smile always
managed to light up the faces of those he surrounded himself with. He had a
special charm ....' He was survived by his parents, Sam and Marcel, and a
sister, Jill. A memorial service was held for him at the Sephardic
Congregation of Long Beach in Long Beach, New York.

Kevin Sanford Cohen, 28, was a computer support person for Cantor
Fitzgerald. He was survived by his parents, Barry and Marcia, and a brother
Neil. His mother said that when she had asked him why he didn't slow down,
he replied, 'Mom, I believe in living life to the fullest.' A memorial
service was held for him at Neve Shalom in Metuchen, New Jersey.

Michael Allen Davidson, 27, was an equity options trader at Cantor
Fitzgerald. A co-worker named Jay wrote, 'He could have been the nicest,
most sensitive person I have ever met. Everyone loves him.' He was engaged
to be married the following July to Dominique DeNardo. Mr. Davidson was
survived by his mother Ellen. A memorial service was held for him at
Congregation Beth Israel in Scotch Plains, New Jersey.

Peter Feidelberg, 34, worked for Aon corporation. Mr. Feidelberg was from
Montreal, Canada, and worked at Aon with his wife, Meredith Ewart, whom he
had married in March 2000. According to the Canadian Jewish News, Mr.
Feidelberg attended Jewish Peoples School, ran in the 1998 New York
Marathon, enjoyed rugby, mountain biking, skiing and scuba diving, and had
backpacked through Europe, Costa Rica, Turkey and other countries.

Steven Mark Fogel, 40, was vice president and assistant general counsel for
Cantor Fitzgerald. He was survived by his wife Kori, a son and a daughter. A
memorial service was held for him at Temple Emanuel in Westfield, New York.

Morton H. Frank, 31, was an insurance equities broker at Cantor Fitzgerald.
In college, he was a member of the Jewish fraternity Alpha Epsilon Pi. A
childhood friend said he had 'a fun-loving spirit and a wonderful heart.' He
had married his wife Jessica 14 months before 9/11.

Arlene Eva Fried, 49, was vice president and assistant general counsel at
Cantor Fitzgerald. She met her future husband Ken when she was 15 and he was
17. When the youngest of their three daughters entered kindergarten, Arlene
went back to school to study law. Her parents, Nicholas and Ronnie Joseph,
were both survivors of Nazi concentration camps; her mother had been at
Auschwitz. They wrote, in a October 13, 2003 internet tribute, 'As Arlene
Joseph Fried's parents, the loss is indescribable; a daughter with
indescribable warmth and love toward her whole family and friends -- losing
her left an unhealable wound in our hearts.' A memorial service was held for
her at Temple Beth Shalom in Roslyn, New York.

Douglas B. Gardner, 39, was a vice chairman at Cantor Fitzgerald. He was
survived by his wife, Jennifer, and two children. Memorial services were
held at the Stephen Weiss Free Synagogue in New York City.

Steven Paul Geller, 52, was an institutional trader for Cantor Fitzgerald.
Mr. Geller loved to cook with his daughter, Hali, 12. He was also survived
by his wife, Debra. A memorial service was held for him at Congregation
Rodeph Sholom in New York City.

Marina Romanova Gertsberg, 25, was one of 16 Russian-speaking Jews who
perished in the 9/11 attacks, according to World Congress of Russian Jewry.
Her family had emigrated from Odessa, Ukraine to the United States when
Marina was four so that her father would not have to serve with Soviet
forces in Afghanistan. She joined Cantor Fitzgerald as a junior manager one
week before September 11. A memorial service for her was held at the
Manhattan Beach Jewish Center in Brooklyn, New York.

Jeffrey Grant Goldflam, 48, was senior vice president and chief financial
officer at Cantor Fitzgerald. Mr. Goldflam was survived by his wife Risa and
two children. He was a track and soccer star in high school. Robert Kayton,
a college acquaintance, remembered Mr. Goldflam as 'easygoing, friendly, and
helpful.' A memorial service was held for him at Temple Beth Tohar in
Melville, New York.

Michelle Herman Goldstein, 31, worked as a broker for Aon Risk Services
insurance company. She had married her busband, Edward Goldstein, exactly
seven months before 9/11. After the first plane struck the North tower of
the World Trade Center, she called her mother, a Hebrew teacher at the
Tamarac Jewish Center in Florida, from the 96th floor of the South tower to
reassure her that she was all right. Her mother described her as 'full of
life. She lights up a room when she smiles.'

Monica Goldstein, 25, was an accounts specialist at Cantor Fitzgerald. She
spent long hours at her older sister's house, caring for her two young
nephews and visiting with her sister. Her father said, 'Her smile and her
laugh were infectious. ... The loss has totally changed our lives. We'll
never be the same anymore. ... She was a very, very special person.' Ms.
Goldstein was engaged to be married in September 2002. A memorial service
was held for her at the Congregation B'nai Israel in Bay Terrace, New York.

Steven Goldstein, 35, had started work for Cantor Fitzgerald two weeks
before September 11. Working in his basement, he had started and developed
an online trading system, which he sold to Cantor Fitzgerald. His wife said
his motivation was to make a lot of money and retire so he could spend time
with his family. She said he loved nothing more than spending time with his
one-year old son Harris and three-year old daughter Hanna. Mr. Goldstein had
been a member of the Jewish fraternity Alpha Epsilon Pi when at the
University of Michigan.

Marcia Hoffman, 52, was vice president and senior technical architect at
Cantor Fitzgerald. A former child-welfare worker, she switched to a career
in computers. She was survived by her husband, Jim, and her daughter, Lara.
A memorial service was held for her at the Kane Street Synagogue in New York
City.

Aaron Horwitz, 24, was a bond broker at Cantor Fitzgerald. He was described
as a showman who loved entertaining people, someone who 'seized souls, not
letting go until he made them merry.' A memorial service was held for him at
the Brotherhood Synagogue in New York City.

Daniel Ilkanayev, 36, was a senior programming analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald.
Mr. Ilkanayev was born in Baku, Azerbaijan, in the former Soviet Union. He
was one 16 Russian-speaking Jews who perished in the 9/11 attacks, according
to World Congress of Russian Jewry.

Brooke Alexandra Jackman, 23, had just started working as an assistant bond
trader at Cantor Fitzgerald. On September 10, 2001, she had told her mother
she was applying to Columbia University's School of Social Work because
'there is more to life than making money.' A crowd of 1,000 to 1,500
attended her memorial service at the Jewish Center in Oyster Bay, New York.
She had volunteered a community soup kitchen and a thrift shop for cancer
patients.

Aaron Jacobs, 27, was a vice president at Cantor Fitzgerald. He was making
plans for a honeymoon, perhaps to Africa, with his bride-to-be, Jeannine
McAteer. He had backpacked through Europe, taught English in Mexico, and
climbed a volcano in Greece. His dream was to retire at an early age and
travel. He also taught job skills to welfare recipients. A memorial service
for him was held at Temple Emanuel in Newton, Massachusetts.

Steven A. Jacobson, 53, was a transmission engineer working on the 110th
floor of World Trade Center's north tower. His job was to keep the WPIX
television station on the air, no matter what happened. After working the
night shift at the television station, he opened the Town and Village
synagogue where he worshipped. Mr. Jacobson was survived by his wife,
Deborah, and two daughters, Rachel and Miriam. Family was the most important
thing to him; he called his mother every day. Colleagues say he called them
on September 11, saying his room was filling with smoke but it was too hot
to leave even though he was having trouble breathing.

Shari Ann Kandell, 27, was a support staffer at Cantor Fitzgerald. She loved
the theater and was studying for a degree in English in the evenings. Her
father said, 'the overwhelming and outstanding quality that Shari showed all
her life was her total selflessness.' Many at her memorial service at Temple
Beth Rishon in Wyckoff, New Jersey spoke of her giving priority to the needs
of others.

Andrew Keith Kates, 37, was a senior managing director of Cantor Fitzgerald.
He was survived by his wife Emily Terry, two daughters, Hannah, 5, and Lucy,
3, and a son, Henry, 1. His wife said that although Mr. Kates was a serious
bike rider, swimmer, and runner, having run the New York Marathon in three
hours and 15 minutes, his family came first. Every Saturday morning, the
children would crowd into bed with Mr. Kates and his wife. A memorial
service for him was held at Congregation Rodeph Sholom in New York City.

Peter Rodney Kellerman, 35, was a vice president and equities trader at
Cantor Fitzgerald. He was survived by his wife Robi. Mr. Kellerman had a
doctor's appointment on the morning of September 11, but came to work when
the appointment was rescheduled. Friend Jon Bott wrote how he misses Mr.
Kellerman's 'infectious humor, your wonderful wit and how comfortable and
easy you made people feel.' A memorial service was held for him at the Park
Avenue Synagogue in New York City.

Howard Kestenbaum, 56, was an executive vice president at Aon Corporation.
His 24-year old daughter Lauren saw the first plane hit the World Trade
Center. Mr. Kestenbaum, who was in the second tower hit, had evacuated his
office on the 103rd floor and was at the 78th floor when his tower was
struck. Witnesses say he was knocked unconscious by flying debris. Mr.
Kestenbaum was always joking and made others laugh. He was an active member
of Congregation Beth Ann in Verona, New Jersey, visited the sick and old,
and volunteered at a homeless shelter.

Mary Jo Kimelman, 34, had worked for Cantor Fitzgerald for 13 years. Friends
and family say she was an extremely loyal, outgoing person who wrote poetry
and enjoyed traveling. Her boyfriend, Thierry LeBras, said she had a special
talent of listening to people she had just met, getting them to open up
about their lives. A memorial service was held for her at Temple Emanu-El in
New York City.

Glenn Davis Kirwin, 40, was a senior vice president at Cantor Fitzgerald. He
was also an avid cyclist, runner, golfer, and skier, who would go on
80-kilometer bicycle rides. His wife, Joan, says he always found time to
play with his sons, Miles, 10, and Troy, 7, even after long workdays. A
memorial service was held for him at Westchester Reform Temple in Scarsdale,
New York.

Alan Kleinberg, 39, was just days away from transferring to a different
Cantor Firzgerald office on September 11. He was survived by his wife,
Mindy, a three-year old son, Sam, a seven-year old daughter, Lauren, and a
nine-year old son, Jacob. His mother said Mr. Kleinberg limited his outside
interests so he could spend more time with his family. A memorial service
was held for him at the Jewish Center in East Brunswick, New Jersey.

Karen Joyce Klitzman, 38, worked at Cantor Fitzgerald. She and her twin
sister Donna spoke with each other every day on the phone. Karen had taught
English for two years in Macao and Beijing, China, and traveled in Siberia
and throughout the Middle East. A memorial service was held for her at
Stephen Weiss Free Synagogue in New York City.

Nicholas Craig Lassman, 28, was a computer technician for Cantor Fitzgerald.
Mr. Lassman studied computers after several years of teaching golf in
Florida. He also taught himself how to play the guitar and learned Russian
and German so he could read books in those languages. He spoke to his
parents, Ira and Laura Lassman, almost every day. A memorial service for Mr.
Lassman was held at Temple Beth-El in Cloister, New Jersey.

Alan Lederman, 43, started work for Aon Corporation two months before
September 11. Just before reporting to work, he climbed Mount Whitney, the
tallest mountain in the continental United States. Most of his co-workers
left the World Trade Center's south tower, where he worked, but Mr. Lederman
stopped to help two women who were paralyzed by panic. A memorial service
was held for him at Temple Neve Shalom in Metuchen, New Jersey.



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PART 2
Neil D. Levin, 46, was Executive Director of the Port Authority of New York
and New Jersey, which runs New York's three major airports, its port
facilities, six bridges and tunnels, and is landlord of the World Trade
Center complex. Mr. Levin was at a breakfast meeting at the Windows on the
World restaurant atop the north tower when it was hit on September 11. Mr.
Levin's wife, Christine Ferer, called him 'the love of my life, the most
kind and generous person,' and someone who became a 'super-Dad' to Ms.
Ferer's two daughters from a previous marriage. A memorial service for Mr.
Levin was held at the Temple Emanu-El in New York City. His family set up a
scholarship fund in his name for children of Port Authority employees killed
on September 11.

Steven Barry Lillianthal, 38, was a mortgage bond broker for Cantor
Fitzgerald. He was survived by his wife Adina, 4-year old twins, Emma and
Gabriel, and a three-month old son, Sam. A memorial service was held for Mr.
Lillianthal at Temple B'nai Abraham in Livingston, New Jersey.

Stuart T. Meltzer, 32, was an energy broker at Cantor Fitzgerald. He had two
young sons; the eldest, Jacob, was four years old when he died. His brother,
Larry, said he talked with Stuart at least five days a day, often discussing
sports. A memorial service for Mr. Meltzer was held at Temple Emeth in
Brookline, Massachusetts.

Nancy Morgenstern, 32, was an administrative assistant at Cantor Fitzgerald.
She was an Orthodox Jew whose passions were cycling and skiing. She would
bring kosher food and the pots and pans needed to stay kosher on cycling
racing trips. In a website dedicated to her memory, her mother wrote,
'Nancy, I miss you more than mere words can express. Not only were you my
daughter, but you were also my best friend.' A co-worker described Nancy as
'one of the most thoughtful, disciplined, funny, crazy, independent women I
ever knew.' Fifty-eight friends wrote tributes to her on her memorial
website.

Laurence M. Polatsch, 32, was a partner in equities sales at Cantor
Fitzgerald. A prankster, Mr. Polatsch donned a tuxedo and crashed the 2000
wedding of celebrities Catherine Zeta-Jones and Michael Douglas. He ate with
actor Jack Nicholson before security guards asked him to leave. Mr.
Polatsch's mother said he once flew back from college to present her with
flowers on her birthday. Recently, Mr. Polatsch had resumed a relationship
with childhood sweetheart Marni Wasserman, and they were expected to marry.
Guttermann Funeral Home in Woodbury, New York confirmed that Mr. Polatsch
was Jewish.

Faina Rapaport, 45, was a computer programmer working as a consultant to
March & McLellan. In 1994, she and her family emigrated from Moscow, Russia
to New York. At the time of her death, her son Alex was 25 and her daughter,
Elena, 19. Elena said, 'I know my mother is still happy about coming to
America. She accomplished things that she never would have been able to do
in Russia.'

Joshua Reiss, 23, was a bond trader at Cantor Fitzgerald. An enterprising
young man, Joshua began delivering newspapers at age 10, worked in the
family business before attending college, and worked full-time as a waiter
while also being a full-time student with a double major at college. More
than 1500 people attended his memorial service at Adath Israel Synagogue in
Lawrenceville, New Jersey. On August 27, 2002, his mother wrote on the
internet, 'We miss you and still want you to come home. I will always have a
void in my soul.'

Brooke David Rosenbaum, 31, was supervisor in the overseas division of
Cantor Fitzgerald. He was sick on September 10, but went to work the next
day because, according to a friend, he felt that without him, 'the whole
place would fall apart.' He was survived by his mother, Dorothy. A memorial
service was held for him at the Jewish Center in Rego Park, New York.

Sheryl Lynn Rosenbaum, 33, was an accountant and partner at Cantor
Fitzgerald. Her father described her as the 'glue' of their family. She was
survived by her husband, Mark, and two children, aged 3 months and 17
months. A memorial service was held for her at Temple Har Shalom in Warren,
New Jersey.

Lloyd Daniel Rosenberg, 31, was a bond trader at Cantor Fitzgerald. He was
survived by his wife Glenna and three daughters, Samantha, 5, Kaylee, 3, and
Alyssa, 1. His wife said that 'Lloyd's passion was being a 'daddy.' His
girls were his pride and joy. I will forever miss the Saturday mornings when
I would sneak downstairs and watch him reading them a book or playing
'horsie.'' A memorial service was held for him at Temple Shalom in Aberdeen,
New Jersey.

Mark Louis Rosenberg, 26, was a computer programmer for Marsh & McLellan. He
attended Marsha Stern Talmudical Academy in New York and Yeshiva University
for a short time. Mr. Rosenberg met his wife, Jennifer, at a Jewish youth
event. She said, 'He was a great people person. He got along with everybody.
He had a great smile and a great sense of humor.'

Andrew Ira Rosenblum, 45, was a broker at Cantor Fitzgerald. He married his
wife, Jill, at Temple Hillel in North Woodmere, New Jersey, and their sons
Jordan and Kyle were 14 and 11, respectively, when their father died. Mr.
Rosenblum's friend, Steve Cohen, said, 'Andy was the kind of guy that had
many circles of friends and many dear friends within each circle.'

Joshua M. Rosenblum, 28, was an assistant trader at Cantor Fitzgerald. He
was only four days away from marrying colleague Gina Hawryluk on September
11. Ms. Hawryluk stayed home from work that day to plan their wedding. Mr.
Rosenblum and co-workers smashed out windows with computers on the 104th
floor to let smoke escape. A memorial service was held for him at Temple
Beth El in Cedarhurst, New York.

Joshua Rosenthal, 44, was a senior vice president at Fiduciary Trust. He was
an avid reader, mountain hiker, and sailor. A friend described Mr. Rosenthal
as 'a wonderfully warm and witty person who was loved and admired by those
who knew him.' A memorial service was held for him at Birmingham Temple in
Farmington Hills, Michigan.

Richard Rosenthal, 50, was vice president of finance at Cantor Fitzgerald.
Mr. Rosenthal was treasurer of the Jewish Center in Fair Lawn, New Jersey
and also treasurer of the Dysautonomia Foundation. His son Evan, 18 years
old when Mr. Rosenthal died, suffers from dysautonomia, a disorder of the
nervous system that confines him to a wheelchair. Evan has needed a feeding
tube to eat since he was 2. Friends say Mr. Rosenthal 'was always with
[Evan].' His younger son Seth, 15 years old when Mr. Rosenthal died, said,
following September 11, 'I'm going to keep calling him on the cell phone
until he answers.'

Michael Craig Rothberg, 39, was a managing director for Cantor Fitzgerald.
Mr. Rothberg was an avid skier, boater, and jogger. Described as 'modest and
unassuming' and extremely loyal to his co-workers, Mr. Rothberg raised money
for multiple sclerosis in a bike-a-thon and for a friend who had cancer. A
memorial service was held for him at the Temple Sholom in Greenwich,
Connecticut.

Ronald J. Ruben, 36, was a vice president of equity trading at Keefe,
Bruyette & Woods. Mr. Ruben, who was unmarried, 'was Uncle Ronnie to 100
kids,' said his sister, Leslie Dillon. When he received his first holiday
bonus, he spent it all at a toy store, delivering gifts to children at a
hospital near his home. Mr. Ruben's father, Peter, died of cancer in 1998
and his mother, Marjorie, died in 1996, also from cancer. To honor them, Mr.
Ruben had their initials, M and P, tattooed over his heart. A memorial
service was held for him at Temple Israel in Ridgewood, New Jersey.

Jason Elazar Sabbag, 26, was a portfolio manager at Fiduciary Trust. He was
engaged to be married to Sarah Hare when he died. A memorial service was
held for him at Temple Sholom in Greenwich, Connecticut, at which friends
recalled his 'warm demeanor, his playful sense of humor, his extraordinary
talent in sports, academics, and business, and, most of all, his love for
his family and very large circle of friends.'

Eric Sand, 36, was an equity trader at cantor Fitzgerald. Mr. Sand, a
talented musician who had once pursued a career in music, had more recently
played guitar for a special audience -- his young son, Aaron, who was 18
months old when Mr. Sand died. Mr. Sand's wife, Michelle, said he would rush
home from work to spend as much time as possible with his son. A memorial
service was held for Mr. Sand at Congregation B'nai Yisrael in Armonk, New
York.

Scott Schertzer, 28, worked in the human resources department of Cantor
Fitzgerald. On September 10, he felt terrible because he had to give layoff
notices to a number of co-workers, but this saved their lives. Mr. Schertzer
was an excellent soccer and baseball player who could bench press 102
kilograms, even though he weighed only 70 kilograms. A memorial service was
held for him at Congregation B'nai Ahavath Shalom in Union, New Jersey. On
December 5, 2001, his mother, father and sister posted this note on an
internet memorial site: 'We can never say 'Good-bye.' You will always be
with us. We love you and will always love you.'

Ian Schneider, 45, was a senior managing director for Cantor Fitzgerald. His
lifelong friend Howie Kessler said, 'This guy loved life. No one danced
harder at a party or shouted louder at a ball game.' His wife Cheryl said
that when he arrived home, his three children Rachel, 11, Jake, 9, and
Sophie, 7, fought for the right to jump first into his arms. Almost 2000
people attended Mr. Schneider's memorial service at Temple Sharey
Teflio-Israel in South Orange, New Jersey. Many were families of the
children he coached on soccer, softball, and baseball teams, a chore he
undertook so he could spend more time with his children.

John Burkhart Schwartz, 40, was a bond broker for Cantor Fitzgerald. A
memorial service was held for him at Temple Emanu-El in New York City.

Jason Sekzer, 31, was a vice president at Cantor Fitzgerald. His father,
Will Sekzer, who is active in a fraternal society of Jewish New York
policemen, described his son as 'handsome, smart, humble, and polite.' Mr.
Sekzer had married Nastasha Makshanov eight months before he died. On
September 10, the photographer called to say that their album of wedding
photographs was ready. A memorial service was held for him at East Midwood
Jewish Center in Brooklyn, New York.

Hagay Shefi, 34, was the co-founder and chief executive of GoldTier
Technologies, a software company. Mr. Shefi had lived in the United States
for eight years, after emigrating from Israel, and was close to becoming a
U.S. citizen. He was in the Windows on the World restaurant atop the World
Trade Center to make a business presentation when it was struck. On
September 16, 2001, his body was found intact in the rubble. He was survived
by his wife Sigal, also from Israel, a five-year old son and a three-year
old daughter.

Mark Shulman, 47, was a disaster inspector, fire prevention and risk
consultant for March & McLellan. He was survived by his wife, Lori, and
daughters Melissa, 17, and Jamie, 12. 'His family always came first,' his
mother Evelyn said. 'He did everything for his family. I lost a treasure.' A
memorial service was held for Mr. Shulman at Temple Shaari Emeth in
Manalapan, New Jersey.

Allan Abraham Shwartzstein, 37, was a managing director and partner at
Cantor Fitzgerald. 'He was about the most considerate person I knew,'
longtime friend Mark Madoff said. One thousand people attended the memorial
service for him at Temple Beth El in Chappaqua, New York. He was survived by
his wife, Amy, a five-year old daughter, Jessica, and a four-year old son,
Matthew.

Arthur Simon, 57, was a vice president and equities trader at Fred Alger
Management company. He and his son, Kenneth Alan Simon, both died in the
World Trade Center. The elder Mr. Simon worked on the 93rd floor; the
younger on the 104th. One of Mr. Simon's greatest loves was dancing. He was
survived by his wife, Susan, a son, Todd, and two daughters, Mandy and
Jennifer. A memorial service was held for him and his son at Temple Beth El
in Spring Valley, New Jersey.

Kenneth Alan Simon, 34, was an equities trader for Cantor Fitzgerald. He and
his wife, Karen, had adopted a daughter, Maya, who was 10 months old when he
died. 'You should have seen his face when he looked into her big brown eyes
for the first time,' his wife said. 'He just melted.' The Simons had plans
to adopt more children. Mr. Simon called his wife after the plane hit to say
that he was going to look for his father, Arthur Simon, who worked 11
stories below him. A memorial service was held for both father and son at
Temple Beth El in Spring Valley, New Jersey.

William E. Spitz, 49, was a government bonds broker at Cantor Fitzgerald. He
had a degree in elementary education. A memorial service was held for him at
Oceanside Jewish Center in Oceanside, New Jersey.

Eric A. Stahlman, 43, was a broker for Cantor Fitzgerald. He joined the
company about 10 weeks before September 11. He was survived by his wife,
Blanca, who is from Ecuador, a seven-year old daughter, Allison, and a
four-year old son, Jacob. Long friendships and close family ties were the
things he cherished most, family members said. A memorial service was held
for him at Temple Beth El in Papchoque, New York.

Alexander Robbins Steinman, 32, was a vice president in equities sales for
Cantor Fitzgerald. Mr. Steinman had attended the wedding in Italy of
lifelong friend Richard Diamond on the weekend before September 11. He then
rushed home to get back to work, which he loved. 'Alex had an incredible
sense of humor and he got as much out of life as anybody possibly could,'
Mr. Diamond said. He said Mr. Steinman had been 'the life of the party' at
his wedding in Italy. A memorial service was held for Mr. Steinman at Temple
Israel in Staten Island, New York.

Kenneth W. Van Auken, 47, was a bond trader at Cantor Fitzgerald. He was
survived by his wife Lorie, and two children, Matthew and Sarah. His wife
says Mr. Van Auken was her 'rock,' the loving spirit in her life, and
someone who was always willing to interrupt what he was doing to have some
fun with his children. He was also a skilled carpenter, building a deck,
bookcases, and other projects around his home. A memorial service was held
for him at Temple B'nai Shalom in East Brunswick, New Jersey.

Steven Jay Weinberg, 41, was an accounting manager for Baseline Financial
Services. He was survived by his wife Laurie and three children, Lindsay,
12, Samuel, 8, and Jason, 6. He went to all his children's sports events and
volunteered at the Parents-Teachers Association. A memorial service for Mr.
Weinberg was held at the Nanuet Hebrew Center.

Simon Weiser, 65, was a power-distribution engineer for the Port Authority
of New York and New Jersey. A Jew born in Kiev, Ukraine in 1936, he arrived
in New York in 1978. He was survived by his wife, a son, and three
ganndchildren. He was planning to retire in 2002.

David Thomas Weiss, 50, was vice president and deputy general counsel for
Cantor Fitzgerald. He was survived by his wife Marcia and daughter Gina. He
was described as a 'very private man with a kind, sweet and generous heart
and ... above all else ... limitless devotion to this family.' A memorial
service was held for him at the Brotherhood Synagogue in New York City.

Michael Wittenstein, 34, was a bond broker at Cantor Fitzgerald. He was
scheduled to marry his fianc
 
sandman wrote:
> Why were Jewish obituaries faked on 9/11?
>
> Odigo, an instant messaging service of Israeli ownership, capable of
> sending the same msg. to hundreds simultaneously, sent out warnings to many
> Jews (# unk, details kept secret) at least 2 hours in advance of the attack.


The evidence for this claim consists of what, exactly?
 
"James McGill" <jmcgill@email.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:f7bgel$bff$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
> sandman wrote:
>> Why were Jewish obituaries faked on 9/11?
>>
>> Odigo, an instant messaging service of Israeli ownership, capable of
>> sending the same msg. to hundreds simultaneously, sent out warnings to
>> many Jews (# unk, details kept secret) at least 2 hours in advance of the
>> attack.

>
> The evidence for this claim consists of what, exactly?


Learn to Google--don't be a waste of everyone's time.
 
sandman wrote:
> "James McGill" <jmcgill@email.arizona.edu> wrote in message
> news:f7bgel$bff$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
>> sandman wrote:
>>> Why were Jewish obituaries faked on 9/11?
>>>
>>> Odigo, an instant messaging service of Israeli ownership, capable of
>>> sending the same msg. to hundreds simultaneously, sent out warnings to
>>> many Jews (# unk, details kept secret) at least 2 hours in advance of the
>>> attack.

>> The evidence for this claim consists of what, exactly?

>
> Learn to Google--don't be a waste of everyone's time.
>
>


It's easy to confirm that people make the claim. And Odigo is
widely referenced by conspiracy theorists of every stripe.

Can you produce the full text of one of these messages? Names of the
people that received them?
 
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 15:14:08 -0700, "sandman" <sandman@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"James McGill" <jmcgill@email.arizona.edu> wrote in message
>news:f7bgel$bff$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
>> sandman wrote:
>>> Why were Jewish obituaries faked on 9/11?
>>>
>>> Odigo, an instant messaging service of Israeli ownership, capable of
>>> sending the same msg. to hundreds simultaneously, sent out warnings to
>>> many Jews (# unk, details kept secret) at least 2 hours in advance of the
>>> attack.

>>
>> The evidence for this claim consists of what, exactly?

>
>Learn to Google--don't be a waste of everyone's time.
>


The problem with Google is that it is filled with people who make the
claim but have no evidence for it.
 
"sandman" <sandman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1385dj.9hr.19.1@news.alt.net...
> Why were Jewish obituaries faked on 9/11?
>
> Odigo, an instant messaging service of Israeli ownership, capable of
> sending the same msg. to hundreds simultaneously, sent out warnings to

many
> Jews (# unk, details kept secret) at least 2 hours in advance of the

attack.
> Two who received those warning went public briefly. Were the Muslim
> hijackers concerned about the Jews, and wanted to warn them ahead of time

to
> not go to work? Why did this Israeli company not warn the other Israeli
> companies that were in charge of security of ALL the Airports involved in
> 9/11?
>
> With two hours advance warning, 9/11 could have been stopped completely,

and
> no planes get hijacked, because the planes would not have been allowed to
> take off. Osama must really like the Jews to take such a risk to warn
> them.
>
> In this article below, I checked every single obituary, and none of these
> Jewish victims seem to be real--none on the highly accurate Social

Security
> Death Index, or in the 9/11 Victims compensation lists.
>
> If there were real Jewish victims on 9/11 in the WTC, such a heavily
> represented group in investment banking, finance, why did they feel the

need
> to make some up?
>
> All of the obits are tearfully, poignantly bogus.

<snipped>

Sandman.....you are about as accurate in your "investigative research" as
Alex Jones. I pulled some names off your list and found them on the SS
Death Index with a date of death of September 11, 2001.

Andrew Keith Kates
Ronald J. Ruben
Alvin Bergsohn

And as for the accuracy of the list, both my parents are deceased, but only
my father's name appears there.

A Help file at the SSDI states that: "The SSDI does not include death
records for everyone who has been issued a Social Security Number (card)."

Get a real job.

RO
 
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