will it leak?

do you think the album and/or single will leak?

if so when?

i hope the single leaks

well on one hand i dont want it bc then id have to download it and thats illegal

but on the other hand if i dont have money for it on 14 or whenever itll come out its good

well on one hand i dont want it bc then id have to download it and thats illegal

but on the other hand if i dont have money for it on 14 or whenever itll come out its good

well its got to a point where ive been waiting for so long that if it does leak, ima get it, so i can hear is asap.

well its got to a point where ive been waiting for so long that if it does leak, ima get it, so i can hear is asap.

yeah right thats a good aspect

yep!!

ill still buy it and all, but i wanan hear it as soon as i can, and if that means downloading it, so be it

yep!!

ill still buy it and all, but i wanan hear it as soon as i can, and if that means downloading it, so be it

ok we'll do it *high five*

ok we'll do it *high five*

*high five right back at ya* LETS DOO DIS!!!

As Mike once so proudly proclaimed "Download that sh*t!" So yeah, I'm thinking it will get leaked.

But then again, most of us die hard fans will probably do what we usually always do, go on a download frenzy then go out and buy the legit deal anyway for prosperity's sake - have been doing that now since OSC. Can't see it changing now, can you?

As Mike once so proudly proclaimed "Downthat that sh*t!" So yeah, I'm thinking it will get leaked.

But then again, most of us die hard fans will probably do what we usually always do, go on a download frenzy then go out and buy the legit deal anyway for prosperity's sake - hav been doing that now since OSC. Can't see it changing now, can you?

you said it sis! *high fives*

As Mike once so proudly proclaimed "Downthat that sh*t!" So yeah, I'm thinking it will get leaked.

But then again, most of us die hard fans will probably do what we usually always do, go on a download frenzy then go out and buy the legit deal anyway for prosperity's sake - hav been doing that now since OSC. Can't see it changing now, can you?

One more reason to download it, if Mike said that! lol

well idk it changed... I did that with JT also...

As Mike once so proudly proclaimed "Download that sh*t!" So yeah, I'm thinking it will get leaked.

But then again, most of us die hard fans will probably do what we usually always do, go on a download frenzy then go out and buy the legit deal anyway for prosperity's sake - have been doing that now since OSC. Can't see it changing now, can you?

Haha. I mean whose to say Mike doesn't have Limewire or something.

I think it will maybe leak 2 weeks before the release...and the single could leak pretty soon, too...

I'm gonna get the single if it leaks...but I won't get the leaked album...

well ill download whatever leaks but i WILL buy the new album!!!!

cause Uncle Rob want YOU to buy the album!!

well ill download whatever leaks but i WILL buy the new album!!!!

cause Uncle Rob want YOU to buy the album!!

Yeah...better get 2 copies to support them....lol

As Mike once so proudly proclaimed "Download that sh*t!" So yeah, I'm thinking it will get leaked.

But then again, most of us die hard fans will probably do what we usually always do, go on a download frenzy then go out and buy the legit deal anyway for prosperity's sake - have been doing that now since OSC. Can't see it changing now, can you?

my god no. that's complete bullshit.

Mike said that at Brixton 01 (I believe), and he was referring to High Voltage, not any singles or new stuff. He was saying if you haven't heard High Voltage go ahead and download that shit. he also says something like that at RAR01 where he mentions 'Napster or whatever'.

he was in no way referring to new singles, new songs and wasn't referring at all to linkin park's future songs. he was talking about a b-side.

quit using that stupid quote. everyone uses that and it's just complete BS.

Albums usualy leak a couple weeks before release, however for example

The Shins - Winching The Night Away

leaked like 4 or 5 months before the release! The latest well early leak i got was Modest Mouse - We Were dead before the ship even sank, came out at least a month before release. Generally if a band has a cult following (Linkin Park do) their albums usualy leak way earlier then a hyped pop bands.

my god no. that's complete bullshit.

 

Mike said that at Brixton 01 (I believe), and he was referring to High Voltage, not any singles or new stuff. He was saying if you haven't heard High Voltage go ahead and download that shit. he also says something like that at RAR01 where he mentions 'Napster or whatever'.

 

he was in no way referring to new singles, new songs and wasn't referring at all to linkin park's future songs. he was talking about a b-side.

 

quit using that stupid quote. everyone uses that and it's just complete BS.

First of all pull your head out of your *** - who are you to know the exact reference to what was said and that the same context does not apply here? Mike and the rest of the band have always been supporters of music for the fans and the widespread utilisation of the internet, it is indesputably where they started anyway was it not? And as far as legitimizing said claims to the new album who are you to say that they arent refering to that which is to come? If they have pared the list down what will come of the tracks that didn't make it to the album? Are you going to say that they wont use the same approach and offer these as "b-sides" (as you say) for free download for their ever-demanding fanbase? If so why draw the line between the album and the unreleased tracks? Korn and U2 to name a few got on their high horses and put a stop to illegal downloading of their music (or attempted to) but LP oes not seem and has never seemed so dead against it.

First and foremost they are about the music. They just want to be heard. They've made their mark, they're apparently not in it for the money but the creative process, and like every other recording artist just want to be heard. After all these years they must know that they have some sort of loyal following that will purchase the new album. For the others that dont or may be uninitiated or whatever they still theoretically have the option to listen to downloaded/leaked versions of songs and make up their own mind. If such leaks and downloads bring in new fans then arguably the band would approve of that - after its still a win-win situation for them because either way their music still gets out there and gets heard. That would be the smarter way to play it, and being the astute businessmen they are I'm sure they've weighed up the pros and cons of leaked/downloaded/illegal copies. If they haven't maybe it's about time they did.

And while you're running off at the mouth about said quotes taken out of apparent context a touch of much-needed tact and deorum wouldn't hurt - especially for someone in a mod stats who's supposed to be overseeing proceedings - at best educating those who may not know of so-called facts you seem so proud to revere, NOT degrading.

Christ.

First of all pull your head out of your *** - who are you to know the exact reference to what was said and that the same context does not apply here? Mike and the rest of the band have always been supporters of music for the fans and the widespread utilisation of the internet, it is indesputably where they started anyway was it not? And as far as legitimizing said claims to the new album who are you to say that they arent refering to that which is to come? If they have pared the list down what will come of the tracks that didn't make it to the album? Are you going to say that they wont use the same approach and offer these as "b-sides" (as you say) for free download for their ever-demanding fanbase? If so why draw the line between the album and the unreleased tracks? Korn and U2 to name a few got on their high horses and put a stop to illegal downloading of their music (or attempted to) but LP oes not seem and has never seemed so dead against it.

First and foremost they are about the music. They just want to be heard. They've made their mark, they're apparently not in it for the money but the creative process, and like every other recording artist just want to be heard. After all these years they must know that they have some sort of loyal following that will purchase the new album. For the others that dont or may be uninitiated or whatever they still theoretically have the option to listen to downloaded/leaked versions of songs and make up their own mind. If such leaks and downloads bring in new fans then arguably the band would approve of that - after its still a win-win situation for them because either way their music still gets out there and gets heard. That would be the smarter way to play it, and being the astute businessmen they are I'm sure they've weighed up the pros and cons of leaked/downloaded/illegal copies. If they haven't maybe it's about time they did.

And while you're running off at the mouth about said quotes taken out of apparent context a touch of much-needed tact and deorum wouldn't hurt - especially for someone in a mod stats who's supposed to be overseeing proceedings - at best educating those who may not know of so-called facts you seem so proud to revere, NOT degrading.

Christ.

after reading that whole thing.....

I still agree with Hahninator

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With that said I think the single will leak for sure, but idk about album is possible.

First of all pull your head out of your *** - who are you to know the exact reference to what was said and that the same context does not apply here? Mike and the rest of the band have always been supporters of music for the fans and the widespread utilisation of the internet, it is indesputably where they started anyway was it not? And as far as legitimizing said claims to the new album who are you to say that they arent refering to that which is to come? If they have pared the list down what will come of the tracks that didn't make it to the album? Are you going to say that they wont use the same approach and offer these as "b-sides" (as you say) for free download for their ever-demanding fanbase? If so why draw the line between the album and the unreleased tracks? Korn and U2 to name a few got on their high horses and put a stop to illegal downloading of their music (or attempted to) but LP oes not seem and has never seemed so dead against it.

First and foremost they are about the music. They just want to be heard. They've made their mark, they're apparently not in it for the money but the creative process, and like every other recording artist just want to be heard. After all these years they must know that they have some sort of loyal following that will purchase the new album. For the others that dont or may be uninitiated or whatever they still theoretically have the option to listen to downloaded/leaked versions of songs and make up their own mind. If such leaks and downloads bring in new fans then arguably the band would approve of that - after its still a win-win situation for them because either way their music still gets out there and gets heard. That would be the smarter way to play it, and being the astute businessmen they are I'm sure they've weighed up the pros and cons of leaked/downloaded/illegal copies. If they haven't maybe it's about time they did.

And while you're running off at the mouth about said quotes taken out of apparent context a touch of much-needed tact and deorum wouldn't hurt - especially for someone in a mod stats who's supposed to be overseeing proceedings - at best educating those who may not know of so-called facts you seem so proud to revere, NOT degrading.

Christ.

Yeah, I agree with FireHawk, after reading that, i still agree with Hahninator.

It was just one quote, from one song, at one show. It wasnt in reference to everything else.

Imagine if every LP fan downloaded the album, and didnt buy it. Sure, people say "well they would make the money from the tours", but they wouldnt, because they wouldnt even have the money to go on tour.

Korn and U2 to name a few got on their high horses and put a stop to illegal downloading of their music (or attempted to) but LP oes not seem and has never seemed so dead against it.

LP has stopped illegal downloads of their music before.

Take Linkin Inside for example, they have shut down that site a few times.

They dont seem to fussed about Live Bootlegs, probably because they dont gain, or lose any money from them, but other official material Warner stops straight away.

Even if it leaks, i wont download it. I'd wait for the album/single to be officially released and then buy it to listen to it.

It's just a different kind of feeling.

Well, think what y'all like. We're all entitled to our own opinions - as I figure this thread is a question isn't it, not a rhetorical statement. And regardless I still stand by what I said. Disagree if y'all want. There's valid points for and against. I aint about to get my panties in a twist over hypotheticals that really have little if anything to do with us, there's far greater issues on the planet that take precedence - and consider theoretically we aren't in the position to leak it or not. Not only that but perhaps a greater question would have been IF it were leaked WOULD you download it and why/not? I think regardless when it's all said and done it will be leaked. I can't see such an act being such a catasptrophic detrament to the band if and when that should happen.

Would I download it? Hell yes.

Would I go out and buy the album? Hell, just try and stop me!